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You know.. I gotta say, I absolutely love the build quality on this thing.. I was worried about not having a case for it at first..
But, my girlfriend accidentally dropped it like christmas even and that is the only scratch on the thing.. it is a small nearly unable to be noticed scratch on the very bottom right side. And that was onto a brick fireplace by total fluke. (She didn't realize the box wasn't sealed shut and it somehow popped out.)
After having this thing nearly a month, it being in my backpack a few times, my pocket and other places..
I see no scratches dings or anything.. which is pretty impressive. While I have taken pretty darn good care of it.. normally by now you will have something on any given piece of electronic.
Are the HTC phones this good? I'd honestly consider settling for lower specs in the future as long as the build quality was this good... Naturally I have and would use a screen protector but, I must say I am very happy with the current no scratch goodness of my tablet.
Yes, they are built well. I did drop mine from about 3-4 feet and it hit a corner in a case on a hard floor and the LCD went bad. I replaced it and all is well.
I dropped mine down a crack on a sleeper sofa and it put a nice gouge on the side of the tablet, but otherwise it's pretty good. Got a little nick on the screen as well. But otherwise, it certainly feels like a premium device.
Dropped mine screen first on a parking lot. Only a corner was scratched.
HTC is the best. I can't believe the majority of people think Iphones in the same league. You can't even mount it as a flash drive for christ sakes, you have to go through Itunes, after you have to update it every week or it doesn't work lol.
I'll probably get thrown off the forums for admitting this, but I'm an iPhone / Mac user and the View has really impressed me in terms of build quality. HTC's software "improvements", on the other hand... :/
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I'll probably get thrown off the forums for admitting this, but I'm an iPhone / Mac user and the View has really impressed me in terms of build quality. HTC's software "improvements", on the other hand... :/
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All of these products are designed to enhance our lives in ways ranging from fun to productivity.
While we may disagree on preferences or reasons to use certain products, none are really more or less valid than anyone elses.
I don't deny personally having a strong dislike of Apple products, but they are gadgets not a religion.
I'm a veteran myself...
cautiously dropped this baby onto my bed...still 100% functional.
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You know.. I gotta say, I absolutely love the build quality on this thing.. I was worried about not having a case for it at first..
But, my girlfriend accidentally dropped it like christmas even and that is the only scratch on the thing.. it is a small nearly unable to be noticed scratch on the very bottom right side. And that was onto a brick fireplace by total fluke. (She didn't realize the box wasn't sealed shut and it somehow popped out.)
After having this thing nearly a month, it being in my backpack a few times, my pocket and other places..
I see no scratches dings or anything.. which is pretty impressive. While I have taken pretty darn good care of it.. normally by now you will have something on any given piece of electronic.
Are the HTC phones this good? I'd honestly consider settling for lower specs in the future as long as the build quality was this good... Naturally I have and would use a screen protector but, I must say I am very happy with the current no scratch goodness of my tablet.
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you should still get the screen protector as its screen is not a gorilla glass.....more so if you are using pen a lot.....you will get the scratch sooner than later bro! and there are quite a few clear screen protectors around, so grab one!
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you should still get the screen protector as its screen is not a gorilla glass.....more so if you are using pen a lot.....you will get the scratch sooner than later bro! and there are quite a few clear screen protectors around, so grab one!
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Absolutely get a screen protector. They also help reduce glare (if you go with a matte one) which is a real problem with this tablet if you like to watch movies.
I had a screen protector on my Nook Color also, and just before I sold it I put a deep gouge into it by pushing too hard on a cheap capacitive pen. Thanks to my screen protector I was able to sell the Nook with a clean screen, rather than one with a deep gash.
I have a screen protector, but no case on my Flyer. The powder coat aluminum casing seems really durable, and I've been really impressed with it. I've owned it since June I think. I can't seen any scratching on it, despite being laid on tables constantly.
My Desire Z phone has a brushed aluminum battery cover on back, which has a lot of superficial scratches. But the soft touch plastic around it does not show scratches. Every HTC phone is a bit different (a few too many different design, some might say). But in general, they have the highest quality casing design in the business, IMO.
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I have a screen protector, but no case on my Flyer. The powder coat aluminum casing seems really durable, and I've been really impressed with it. I've owned it since June I think. I can't seen any scratching on it, despite being laid on tables constantly.
My Desire Z phone has a brushed aluminum battery cover on back, which has a lot of superficial scratches. But the soft touch plastic around it does not show scratches. Every HTC phone is a bit different (a few too many different design, some might say). But in general, they have the highest quality casing design in the business, IMO.
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Yeah, I can't count how many times I've set my tab on a table and I feel something scraping the bottom that I didn't see when I looked at the table..
Scared the crap out of me the first few times.. I am quite pleased to have no scratches from it yet.
also, I have a screen protector on my flyer.. Found a cheapo zagg at bestbuy.
Tottaly agree. I really like the build quality of the HTC Flyer. The HTC Flyer is my first permanet tablet. I started with a Samsung 8.9 but it went back to the store.
A friend of mine got his hands on a Inc 4G and posted an unboxing video. I've not seen much for videos about these yet. Just wanted to let the community know:
Figured out the YouTube thing...
Thanks for the video. About the price; according to some info found by sites such as Droid Life the price is looking to be around $149 ($199 with a $50 rebate) instead of the $299 like some people were suspecting which I feel is a lot better. As much as I like this phone and am likely to get it (full retail most likely at $549) I think $299 would scare a lot of people away from what seems to be a mid to low-high range phone.
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Thanks for the video. About the price; according to some info found by sites such as Droid Life the price is looking to be around $149 ($199 with a $50 rebate) instead of the $299 like some people were suspecting which I feel is a lot better. As much as I like this phone and am likely to get it (full retail most likely at $549) I think $299 would scare a lot of people away from what seems to be a mid to low-high range phone.
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I let him know. He's working to clear that up. Thanks for the info!
Another video from the same indivdual about the specs and benchmarks and his thoughts after a day's use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR_jzcMcjhs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Great to see this phone's benchmarks come in that close to the One X. Phone is looking good. I love the fact that he did a size comparison to the GNex--putting the phones side by side just proves that there is no way in hell I could comfortably hold that thing...
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Great to see this phone's benchmarks come in that close to the One X. Phone is looking good. I love the fact that he did a size comparison to the GNex--putting the phones side by side just proves that there is no way in hell I could comfortably hold that thing...
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I've got the One X myself. I came from a Nexus One initially. When I held the DInc that he had, it honestly felt like holding a TicTac. Its very comfortable holding the One X and a GNex - you'll actually be surprised.
And in the unboxing video, it booted so fast because Fast boot was enabled. Its considerably slower with it disabled.
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I've got the One X myself. I came from a Nexus One initially. When I held the DInc that he had, it honestly felt like holding a TicTac. Its very comfortable holding the One X and a GNex - you'll actually be surprised.
And in the unboxing video, it booted so fast because Fast boot was enabled. Its considerably slower with it disabled.
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I'm gonna say that has a lot to do with the size hands you got and what kind of case you sport, and finally what's your mode of transporting it.
If I was female, probably would think harder about getting the gs3, since I could just throw it in my purse. However, I tote a sack, so I don't have a purse to throw my phone in.
I've got probably normal to slightly smaller hands, another negative for a larger phone.
Lastly, I honestly don't know how you guys transport a phone that's bigger than a Dinc, unless you do NOT pack your phone in a case. When I first bought mine a couple years ago, I bought an otterbox, to protect the investment these phones cost. But it sucks ass trying to transport it. Phones are not what they use to be, and you clip something that is this big to your waist, I'm sorry, I think it looks stupid. Put it in your back pocket, ugh no.
So I ended up getting a case with a clip, and throw it in the front pocket and clip it to pocket seam. But this still is an effort, sitting down, you gotta take it out, seat belt hits it, and on and on.
Of course I also sport a chl, and you can't pull off that much hardware on one side of your waist, let alone almost a full inch bigger. Maybe some of the bigger dudes can pull it off, but not me. Wished I could, because a bigger screen is always nice but, damn it has such huge drawbacks that make it non worthwhile.
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I'm gonna say that has a lot to do with the size hands you got and what kind of case you sport, and finally what's your mode of transporting it.
If I was female, probably would think harder about getting the gs3, since I could just throw it in my purse. However, I tote a sack, so I don't have a purse to throw my phone in.
I've got probably normal to slightly smaller hands, another negative for a larger phone.
Lastly, I honestly don't know how you guys transport a phone that's bigger than a Dinc, unless you do NOT pack your phone in a case. When I first bought mine a couple years ago, I bought an otterbox, to protect the investment these phones cost. But it sucks ass trying to transport it. Phones are not what they use to be, and you clip something that is this big to your waist, I'm sorry, I think it looks stupid. Put it in your back pocket, ugh no.
So I ended up getting a case with a clip, and throw it in the front pocket and clip it to pocket seam. But this still is an effort, sitting down, you gotta take it out, seat belt hits it, and on and on.
Of course I also sport a chl, and you can't pull off that much hardware on one side of your waist, let alone almost a full inch bigger. Maybe some of the bigger dudes can pull it off, but not me. Wished I could, because a bigger screen is always nice but, damn it has such huge drawbacks that make it non worthwhile.
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I pre-ordered the S3 to keep my unlimited, but was worried about carrying such a large phone. I figured if I didn't like it I would switch to the DINC 4G.
I wear Carhartt shorts and pants because they have a pocket on the leg that's perfect for cell phones. Not to mention they make awesome gear - wears like a champ.
I stopped in T-Mobile to see if the S3 fit in my leg pocket and it fits with ease - even with a slim case. So the DINC 4G would be no problem.
I hate carrying a phone in my front or back pockets, and the belt clip thing is a pain when sitting down - you're right. There are other brands of shorts/pants with the leg pocket also. It has made carrying around a smart phone no problem at all.
Hope this helps.
I don't use a case and I don't keep anything other than my phone in my pocket, so the SGSIII fits fine in there... I stopped into T-Mobile to try it out and it slid right in and out with ease. It wasn't particularly difficult to hold the SGSIII either. The buttons are in good positions and it doesn't require any crazy hand-contortions to get at them (although the power button is a little cheap-feeling). I don't suspect I'll have any issues holding or using the SGSIII.
But there's a difference between something being "not particularly difficult to hold" and being a joy to hold.
Pretty much every hands-on with the Incredible 4G has said that the dimensions, paired with the somewhat-thicker, rounded back, make it fit very nicely in hand. Not to mention, the soft, textured plastic helps too, for those of us who don't use a case.
Even though I can hold it OK, I feel like the size and shape of the SGSIII, compared to the Inc 4G, makes it much much much more susceptible to drops, which is another important thing to note... especially for people like me who don't use cases.
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I don't use a case and I don't keep anything other than my phone in my pocket, so the SGSIII fits fine in there... I stopped into T-Mobile to try it out and it slid right in and out with ease. It wasn't particularly difficult to hold the SGSIII either. The buttons are in good positions and it doesn't require any crazy hand-contortions to get at them (although the power button is a little cheap-feeling). I don't suspect I'll have any issues holding or using the SGSIII.
But there's a difference between something being "not particularly difficult to hold" and being a joy to hold.
Pretty much every hands-on with the Incredible 4G has said that the dimensions, paired with the somewhat-thicker, rounded back, make it fit very nicely in hand. Not to mention, the soft, textured plastic helps too, for those of us who don't use a case.
Even though I can hold it OK, I feel like the size and shape of the SGSIII, compared to the Inc 4G, makes it much much much more susceptible to drops, which is another important thing to note... especially for people like me who don't use cases.
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I actually enjoyed holding the S3. However the Incredible 2 when I held it, just feels perfect in your hands. I find the power button is a bit bother some to press on the top for anything larger than an iPhone so I'm actually glad Samsung put the S3's at the side because its more convienent. The button, however, is cheap feeling. I suspect the Incredible 4g will also feel great in hand, but the power button might be a little bothersome since its very tall.
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I've only got a Speck case on my HOX. It does not add too much to it. This phone needs a case IMO because it just slides out of my hands due to the surface. I usually just keep the phone in my pocket when I'm walking around.
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I think the screen size issue comes largely down to preference. I wouldn't anticipate that the SGS3 would have any trouble fitting in a pocket, since that has a lot more to do with depth than screen size (ah, the old days of putting a Motorola Droid in your front pocket and having everyone ask you "what the hell is that giant box in your pocket?"). But it's about your habits in using your phone. If you primarily hold your phone with one hand and use the touchscreen with your index finger on the other hand, you could easily use a 4.8" screen or even bigger without any comfort issues. But, 90% of the time, I'm holding my phone one-handed and accessing the entire screen with my thumb. Unless you have really, really long fingers, that's nearly impossible on any screen bigger than 4.3" without seriously stretching your hand.
To be entirely honest, if it weren't for my desire for a little extra screen real estate and the fact that 4" is pretty much the minimum in this generation of phones, I'd stick with a 3.7" screen. The Incredible is as good as it gets in comfort-in-hand. Everything feels like it's the perfect distance apart.
Obviously any case will offer more protection, and this was a very expensive phone no doubt... But I dont want to get a case other than switching out the replacement back battery cover, because once you put a case on it, it makes it even larger or my hands. I love the thin profile of the note 3 and with gorilla glass it wont scratch easily, Im super careful when I set it down on flat surfaces and if I drop it well thats the chance I'll take. I also like the chrome accents and the silvery edge that goes all around the phone, any case besides a replament back cover will obviously cover the silver fake metal sides that go all around the phone.
so is this a question? looks like you already made your decision on the matter.
obviously, any accessory is an option, not a requirement. accidents happen. cases protect the phone in those incidents. it'll also keep the original housing of the phone in better condition than the usual wear and tear if you're looking to sell it later on.
If you choose not to use a case, that's perfectly fine.
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so is this a question? looks like you already made your decision on the matter.
obviously, any accessory is an option, not a requirement. accidents happen. cases protect the phone in those incidents. it'll also keep the original housing of the phone in better condition than the usual wear and tear if you're looking to sell it later on.
If you choose not to use a case, that's perfectly fine.
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I'd love to go naked, the thin profile of this phone is terrific. But I'm too scared so this is why i like the official Samsung flip covers that replace the back cover. They maintain the thin profile but at least offer some more protection than going naked. As a great bonus they turn the screen on and off when you open and close the cover respectively.
Its not if you don't plan to sell anytime soon. Screen protectors degrade image quality and most non OEM cases look tacky.
I got the slim fit spigen case. Initial trial of it, although it's probably not adding a whole lot of weight, it feels like it is compared to when I was running naked for the first couple weeks while waiting for it to come in. I've since opted to run naked. I do have a slim armour spigen coming in for days where I will be a bit more active or if I'm mounting it onto something.
IMO, flip cases are annoying because I snap photos all the time, and the flip cases simply get in the way requiring me to hold it with two hands when other cases just one hand operation to snap works. As well unless it's the s-view ones, its super annoying to flip open everytime you want to check something small like the time.
My phone itself is naked.
I can't stand flipcases, as the flap keeps getting in the way of everything. (I'm a woman, so I have even less chance of holding it in one hand, Meaning I always have the flap in the palm of my hand.)
Screen protectors look ugly, are a nightmare to apply and reduce the screen quality. My phone goes nowhere near my keys, so it's not needed.
I am keeping an eye out for an aluminium backcover, but so far there's very little of them. Those that are available don't ship outside the US.
I do keep the phone in a walletcase when it's in my pocket or on the table. This way I can lay it on top of the case so I don't scratch the camera: http://shop.golla.com/epages/Golla.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/Golla/Products/G1406
I admire you naked guys really, I don't dare that my 700€ device could drop and brake. It's a huge device in hand and if you do a work that is hard the phone eventually will drop, also you cannot grab it fully with 1 hand. Offcourse I love also the slim naked feel of it but I don't risk it. Atm I have a clear bumber and a tempered tr glass till my Spigen case arrives and I feel secure.
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It's silly to not have a case on a $700 device that you use throughout each and every day. I work in cellular retail and every time someone brings in a broken smartphone without a case I ask them about it, and their response is always along the lines of "I'm always super careful and this has never happened before!" and half the time they don't have insurance either.
Accidents happen, which is why they are called accidents; no one can be 100% sure they won't have a careless moment. Not to mention sometimes it's someone ELSE'S carelessness that can end with your phone being broken.
Verizon has a thin shell case (with optional holster) that provides a little grip, a handy kickstand, and most importantly a bit of a raised edge along the screen and camera. It probably won't help much for a 6 ft drop on concrete, but it's definitely better than nothing at all and will at least help prevent scratches if you are against screen protectors.
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Not to mention sometimes it's someone ELSE'S carelessness that can end with your phone being broken.
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If you give someone else your $1000 phone, even to hold for a second, you're an insult to evolution and would do well to remove yourself from the gene pool.
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If you give someone else your $1000 phone, even to hold for a second, you're an insult to evolution and would do well to remove yourself from the gene pool.
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Uhm. That someone ELSE is very often a child, so a case is necessary, and, genes already passed on, jackalope.
zmore said:
Uhm. That someone ELSE is very often a child, so a case is necessary, and, genes already passed on, jackalope.
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I was not referring to you in person.
But letting a child hold your 1000 dollar phone is even more idiotic.... I would not let it hold a 200 dollar phone, let alone something that costs more than the average car.
Also, what's a jackalope?
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But letting a child hold your 1000 dollar phone is even more idiotic.... I would not let it hold a 200 dollar phone, let alone something that costs more than the average car.
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You'll change your tune quick if/when you do have kids
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I was not referring to you in person.
But letting a child hold your 1000 dollar phone is even more idiotic.... I would not let it hold a 200 dollar phone, let alone something that costs more than the average car.
Also, what's a jackalope?
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2nd......what's a jackalope....sounds like a coded curse parent's use. I shall remember!
my last three main daily driver phone I ran naked. Asus PDA (plastic screen), T-Mobile dash, HTC evo 3d. There were some other pretty boss phones in that mix of the last ten years but those were the phones I loved. Non of them had screen protectors or cases. I got my NOTE3 and now I have been protector/case concerned. The device is just so thin and so jewelry like that I'm going to wrap it up tight and see if it adversely effects the experience. Not Otterbox tight, I never understood that methodology. I'm going glass screen protector and slimmest of cases. Unles there is an artful reason to do otherwise which I think is possible. But I need a Golla bag without Zipper or carbineer, just dual belt loop. A saggy bag with a big velco flap that I can use as a transport mechanism. Hard clip holsters suck. I want padded sliding desert bag style low profile, that I set on my belt in the morning with loops and forget about until night. A few years ago Golla had that exact thing. Now they don't. I'm just going to sew myself what I want out of canvas until the market catches up. Horizontal belt clip? are you kidding me?
1 question? Are you mad? This phone? Naked? This is a precious baby you don't go naked with this. It's that awesome I'm waiting for the otterbox.
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my last three main daily driver phone I ran naked. Asus PDA (plastic screen), T-Mobile dash, HTC evo 3d. There were some other pretty boss phones in that mix of the last ten years but those were the phones I loved. Non of them had screen protectors or cases. I got my NOTE3 and now I have been protector/case concerned. The device is just so thin and so jewelry like that I'm going to wrap it up tight and see if it adversely effects the experience. Not Otterbox tight, I never understood that methodology. I'm going glass screen protector and slimmest of cases. Unles there is an artful reason to do otherwise which I think is possible. But I need a Golla bag without Zipper or carbineer, just dual belt loop. A saggy bag with a big velco flap that I can use as a transport mechanism. Hard clip holsters suck. I want padded sliding desert bag style low profile, that I set on my belt in the morning with loops and forget about until night. A few years ago Golla had that exact thing. Now they don't. I'm just going to sew myself what I want out of canvas until the market catches up. Horizontal belt clip? are you kidding me?
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What.....huh...you lost me !! Some where around Albuquerque.
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You'll change your tune quick if/when you do have kids
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No, not very likely; I'm asexual. Me having children is something that'll never happen.
I occasionally teach 6-12 year olds for a day. (a few friends of the family are primary school teachers, they sometimes ask me to do photography, tech or design classes for them.)
Not a chance in hell am I letting them touch my phone. Or my tablet. Or my laptop. Or my camera. Or anything else that could easily be damaged.
Also, according to Google a jackalope is a rabbit with antlers.. Is Google on drugs or is that actually correct?
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ShadowLea said:
I was not referring to you in person.
But letting a child hold your 1000 dollar phone is even more idiotic.... I would not let it hold a 200 dollar phone, let alone something that costs more than the average car.
Also, what's a jackalope?
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Your $700 N3, wait I mean $1000 N3 costs more than the average car? You don't let anyone touch your phone? My girl can use it anytime she wants, if she needs it. My godson could as angry birds on it anytime as well... It's only a phone. It's insured, and of not, easily replaceable. The day any material possession becomes more valuable than a person in my life, is a sad day indeed.
PS- I absolutely love my phone too. Just not as much as people in my life.
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Also, according to Google a jackalope is a rabbit with antlers.. Is Google on drugs or is that actually correct?
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This is correct. Remember Americas Funniest Home videos from years ago?
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Warrior1975 said:
Your $700 N3, wait I mean $1000 N3 costs more than the average car? You don't let anyone touch your phone? My girl can use it anytime she wants, if she needs it. My godson could as angry birds on it anytime as well... It's only a phone. It's insured, and of not, easily replaceable. The day any material possession becomes more valuable than a person in my life, is a sad day indeed.
PS- I absolutely love my phone too. Just not as much as people in my life.
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Yes, 1025 USD, it's 750 euros here. Welcome to Europe.
I'm 22, you don't seriously think people my age can afford cars over that price I should hope. Certainly not in this economy.
I suppose that's the difference, I don't have such people in my life.
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This is correct. Remember Americas Funniest Home videos from years ago?
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Only by name. I tend to avoid SBS6 and RTL4.
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I currently have the Galaxy Mega and absolutely love it...that being said when i saw the google play edition of the Z ultra last night I got a bit envious. has anyone come from the mega and if so what are your thoughts? i know there is little size difference but what were your impressions?
obviously, i'm fine with big phones but i'm concerned about the camera since i have an infant and taking pictures is actually important to me now.
also, i am wondering if you can use the Samsung MHL cable on the XZU as i use mhl daily. would be nice not to have to buy another cable.
I have no experience with the Mega, but your MHL cable won't work. Samsung MHL adapters are 11 pins while the rest are 5 pins. Non-Samsung adapters are very cheap though ($10 bucks)
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I came from a Mega:
This is so much more powerful. Like, crazy powerful. It completely devastates the Mega. It's noticable the second you start using it, its just so fast and smooth.
The second big improvement is the screen. The Mega has an awesome screen for 720p, but the panel in the Ultra is epic.
The third big improvement is surprisingly battery life! The Ultra is considerably better.
Fourth big improvement is in signal quality. I am UK based so don't use LTE currently, but 3G the Ultra gets a stronger signal pretty much everywhere.
It's waterproof, which is never a bad thing.
Oh and I nearly forgot... Roms. There is already an excelent CM10.2 build available for the Ultra, as well as a fair few other roms and obviously the GPE just got announced and that will bring a tidal wave of very high quality roms. The Mega development section on the other hand is virtually a barren wasteland, and being both underpowered and Touchwiz inflicted it is in desperate need of a decent AOSP build. The Ultra is actually fine stock ironically, Sony only lightly skin Android and the stock rom is near-AOSP anyway.
On the downsides:
The Mega did fit in my pocket better, though I still keep my Ultra in the front pocket of my jeans just as I did with my Mega. The angular design looks good, but it is a little impractical on a device this big.
The touchscreen is prone to occasional mistouches, mainly if it's dirty. Not a big issue by any means, but a minus point non the less.
The camera is much better on the Mega, particularly in low light.
The "ASF" screen protection fitted as standard is stupid. It's plastic based, so it will scratch considerably easier than the strengthened glass beneath it and doesn't feel as nice under the finger. If you remove the film, which took me about 3 hours, the glass underneath doesn't have any oleophobic coating and so gets dirty easily. I plan on buying some of the Fusso replacement oleophobic coating on the net soon to resolve this once and for all, but that costs £20 and it shouldn't be necessary.
For me, the Ultra is the MUCH better phone. I'm really happy with mine, probably the best phone I have ever owned. :good:
i just returned my mega to buy a z ultra play edition, the mega wasn't powerful enough and didn't have enough customization options for me.
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I came from a Mega:
This is so much more powerful. Like, crazy powerful. It completely devastates the Mega. It's noticable the second you start using it, its just so fast and smooth.
The second big improvement is the screen. The Mega has an awesome screen for 720p, but the panel in the Ultra is epic.
The third big improvement is surprisingly battery life! The Ultra is considerably better.
Fourth big improvement is in signal quality. I am UK based so don't use LTE currently, but 3G the Ultra gets a stronger signal pretty much everywhere.
It's waterproof, which is never a bad thing.
Oh and I nearly forgot... Roms. There is already an excelent CM10.2 build available for the Ultra, as well as a fair few other roms and obviously the GPE just got announced and that will bring a tidal wave of very high quality roms. The Mega development section on the other hand is virtually a barren wasteland, and being both underpowered and Touchwiz inflicted it is in desperate need of a decent AOSP build. The Ultra is actually fine stock ironically, Sony only lightly skin Android and the stock rom is near-AOSP anyway.
On the downsides:
The Mega did fit in my pocket better, though I still keep my Ultra in the front pocket of my jeans just as I did with my Mega. The angular design looks good, but it is a little impractical on a device this big.
The touchscreen is prone to occasional mistouches, mainly if it's dirty. Not a big issue by any means, but a minus point non the less.
The camera is much better on the Mega, particularly in low light.
The "ASF" screen protection fitted as standard is stupid. It's plastic based, so it will scratch considerably easier than the strengthened glass beneath it and doesn't feel as nice under the finger. If you remove the film, which took me about 3 hours, the glass underneath doesn't have any oleophobic coating and so gets dirty easily. I plan on buying some of the Fusso replacement oleophobic coating on the net soon to resolve this once and for all, but that costs £20 and it shouldn't be necessary.
For me, the Ultra is the MUCH better phone. I'm really happy with mine, probably the best phone I have ever owned. :good:
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thanks for the help.
some of the things that make me weary of the XZU - i think the sharp pretty much sucks and prefer the rounded corners. i'm not sure if it being a bit bigger will be much of a problem or not. i went to the store to try to find one and its not in stock anywhere yet.
i really want a stock android experience though and i'll never ever get that on the Mega since they'll never get MHL to work and i use mhl daily with my appradio 2 and must have it.
that google play edition is so so tempting...i better not even mention i bought another phone after just getting the mega 6 weeks ago.
is it at all easier to use being so much thinner? i didn't think that would matter though in ease of use but not sure.
It's actually ridiculously thin. I have a hard time picking it up from the table. It's almost like trying to pick something flat off the ground and you can't really get a grip. It would've been brutal for the pockets if it was thicker.
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It's actually ridiculously thin. I have a hard time picking it up from the table. It's almost like trying to pick something flat off the ground and you can't really get a grip. It would've been brutal for the pockets if it was thicker.
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do you use a case with it?
i am also confused about this screen protector? is it a protector just built onto the phone that most people don't like or remove but its really hard to take off? i haven't seen any reviews mentioning it.
I'm not using a case. I like to use my devices naked. The screen protector is an "Anti shatter film" that's preventing glass from shattering once you break it. You may remove it if you want to, but I've heard that it takes like three hours to do it since it's really thin and it breaks into tiny pieces. It's not a good protector, so the oleophobic layer (anti smudge) layer will start to come of after some use. Also, since it's a plastic sheet, using pens on it to take notes or draw isn't recommended since it will naturally scratch it. Sony sure employed a brainiac to do this job, and I can't understand why they would do this.
Either way, that's just how it is. You won't notice or even see the protector, and if you get scratches, you can remove it and use your own protector. It just takes a lot of time. You can read all about it in a thread that's lying around here some place.
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do you use a case with it?
i am also confused about this screen protector? is it a protector just built onto the phone that most people don't like or remove but its really hard to take off? i haven't seen any reviews mentioning it.
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I'm using a black TPU case I got off ebay for £3, it doesn't add hadly any bulk but ofers decent protection.
I bought the Mega for the mrs. She wanted a large screen but doesn't need all the bells and whistles and see loves it and is used to TW having come from a note 2.
Honestly I like both devices, but for a hardcore tinkerer like me I had to have the Ultra.
baileyjr said:
I'm using a black TPU case I got off ebay for £3, it doesn't add hadly any bulk but ofers decent protection.
I bought the Mega for the mrs. She wanted a large screen but doesn't need all the bells and whistles and see loves it and is used to TW having come from a note 2.
Honestly I like both devices, but for a hardcore tinkerer like me I had to have the Ultra.
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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Give them a call and ask if they have it before you go out the door
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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You can't see the factory fitted screen protector. I have a normal screen protector on top as well and its invisable if you take your time to install it carefully :thumbup:
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Yeah, you won't notice it at all unless you get some bad scratches. Just treat it as a gadget, and not a piece of meat, and you probably won't get any.
If you have an infant and pictures are key for you then avoid this phone like the plague. I have young kids also and this camera sucks. However otherwise the phone is very good in every other aspect.
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I currently have the Galaxy Mega and absolutely love it...that being said when i saw the google play edition of the Z ultra last night I got a bit envious. has anyone come from the mega and if so what are your thoughts? i know there is little size difference but what were your impressions?
obviously, i'm fine with big phones but i'm concerned about the camera since i have an infant and taking pictures is actually important to me now.
also, i am wondering if you can use the Samsung MHL cable on the XZU as i use mhl daily. would be nice not to have to buy another cable.
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I dont like Samsung products, bcuz they all look like sanitary napkins.
I'm waiting for my ZU to come in the mail I'm so excited coming from a Mega 6.3!
After playing with a friends ZU, the thing that I will appreciate most on the ZU is the faster processor and larger RAM, although I must admit I do wish the camera on it was a bit better with flash!! I'm a girl and I like to take selfies geez... :silly:
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I'm not using a case. I like to use my devices naked. The screen protector is an "Anti shatter film" that's preventing glass from shattering once you break it. You may remove it if you want to, but I've heard that it takes like three hours to do it since it's really thin and it breaks into tiny pieces. It's not a good protector, so the oleophobic layer (anti smudge) layer will start to come of after some use. Also, since it's a plastic sheet, using pens on it to take notes or draw isn't recommended since it will naturally scratch it. Sony sure employed a brainiac to do this job, and I can't understand why they would do this.
Either way, that's just how it is. You won't notice or even see the protector, and if you get scratches, you can remove it and use your own protector. It just takes a lot of time. You can read all about it in a thread that's lying around here some place.
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I owned the original Xperia Z and loved the mobile. Reviewers all gave it some negative feedback as when they sat in the kitchen they could not see the screen from the living room due to what they called "Poor viewing angles". I found this odd and got into all sorts of trouble on one review site, Trusted reviews, where they are anything but' trusted'.
I digress. The Z came with this new 'anti shatter film' Point is within only a few days of very respectful use I could actually see tiny marks on this laminate membrane. I spoke with the Sony importer here who advised me to fit a screen protector, in some countries they where sold with the screen protectors in the box. At that time this confused me as I thought both one and the other where the same thing? Not the case at all.
The anti shatter film is fitted as when the water resistant idea was in development the designers realised that customers would use them by a pool or near water like a beach. This caused some concern as if the phone got wet it became slippery and if dropped the screen could shatter and leave shards of glass all over the place where people could cut themselves (not to mention the cost of emptying and refilling a pool). To prevent any such problem and, I guess, avoid legal action? Sony fitted the new range of water resistant devices with these anti shatter films. Great idea.............
IN PRACTCE they have proved so soft they scratch far to readily and in terms of the Ultra it would be suicide to use a pencil on that anti shatter film.
here again is Sony being innovators of great new developments yet so often dropping the ball at the last hurdle!
I have a very decent screen protector fitted on my Ultra that I always order the same time I purchase any phone, phablet or tablet. I also always purchase a decent cover to further protect the device. I would like to use them without a cover but just cannot bare to think of scratching my devices. So good looking yet the cases do hide their good looks also add greatly to the bulk.
Life is all about compromise though.
I suggest comparing the Samsung mega against the Ultra is an unfair test to start with. Size being the only common denominator. With the exception of the camera, so I am told, the Ultra is made to a higher standard in terms of materials used in construction also the other operational hardware is more advanced. I am a Samsung fan but have never been a fan boy of any brand. Its a question of purchase what satisfies ones needs and requirements. I also own the SG Note 3 and gear, they are both now boxed and in a draw ready to sell.
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Rate this thread to express how you think the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I like the overall feel of the device, the housing is solid and slim; biggest gripe is that my gorilla glass 4 has a cut on the screen after 1 day of use. Not sure how this happened but almost certain it shouldn't have occured.
chavist said:
I like the overall feel of the device, the housing is solid and slim; biggest gripe is that my gorilla glass 4 has a cut on the screen after 1 day of use. Not sure how this happened but almost certain it shouldn't have occured.
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I've heard that GG4 was made to be more shatter resistant at the expense of hardness not sure how true this isbthough. But you're not the only one who got scratches on their s7. Some reviewers also say they had gotten scratches with the s7 during normal use while having none on their other devices.
Definitely the most expensive feeling phone that I've ever owned. It is also the most delicate and fragile feeling one.
Pop / Crack sound on the back glass
It seem my unit has a problem on the back glass next to the camera. There is a gap between the glass and the frame and if you press it there it makes a loud pop sound, making it feel pretty low quality. Also the edges make it quite difficult to use the phone lying down, holding it above your head. In general almost all of the front side has some touch sensitive areas, so the phone is quite difficult to pick up without pressing something (with an open app for example).
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Definitely the most expensive feeling phone that I've ever owned. It is also the most delicate and fragile feeling one.
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You have to be joking. The S6 had a prem feel. the S7 feels cheap and the design is lacking!
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You have to be joking. The S6 had a prem feel. the S7 feels cheap and the design is lacking!
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No, you're joking right. Design is almost identical to s6 same design with some refinements. They use the same material being glass and metal, so how you're saying s6 feels premium and the s7 doesn't makes 0% sense.
cpugeeker said:
You have to be joking. The S6 had a prem feel. the S7 feels cheap and the design is lacking!
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I didn't own an s6, so...
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The build quality is top notch. No, no, it really is quality. It is heavy enough that it feels like an expensive device, but not heavy enough that it becomes a workout after holding it too long.
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The build quality is top notch. No, no, it really is quality. It is heavy enough that it feels like an expensive device, but not heavy enough that it becomes a workout after holding it too long.
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+1 here.. more premium looking than my old s6
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Hde some issues with mine that is more down to quality controll (lots of unity that was shipped out quick to meet demands).
First one hade issues with home button.
Second one volume down did not work.
Third one very tine hairline scratch i top coner on the rear camera lens (not sure if i can this one exhanged as it's very hard to spot if you dont know it's there)
Also, plastic home button? This could as well be harden glass to minimize scratches.
But all i all the phone i well built and feels good in the hand. A screen protector and case it's still sadly needed though as we know from before that gorilla glass 4 is more drop safe than scratch safe compared to gorilla glass 3.
You can't have both scratch safe and drop safe glass yet sadly
Overall Design is good. The first thing that is UNIMPRESSIVE is the Sim Card Tray is made of plastic! Would Samsung ever come out of this plastic trend completely? I know we cannot live without plastic. still, the sim tray should have been metal. Also, it becomes sticky after holding for some time. So wipe and wipe again again to keep the look Premium.
A 5* for rest of the design.
I dislike the glass on the back of the phone it makes the phone feel fragile
Broke in 1.5 weeks, bad quality
Quality feel does not mean much if you drop the phone from your pocket and it breaks.
How does a company who supposed does drop test call a phone that breaks on first drop a premium quality phone.
If one is able to find and read the S7 Edge warranty, it does not cover "accidents, water, dirt, or any other damage". Imagine that. The "gorilla glass" and IP68 means nothing.
I'm really sorry that I want from an iPhone to a Samsung S7 edge. I had expected more for how much I paid for a "premium" phone.
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Quality feel does not mean much if you drop the phone from your pocket and it breaks.
How does a company who supposed does drop test call a phone that breaks on first drop a premium quality phone.
If one is able to find and read the S7 Edge warranty, it does not cover "accidents, water, dirt, or any other damage". Imagine that. The "gorilla glass" and IP68 means nothing.
I'm really sorry that I want from an iPhone to a Samsung S7 edge. I had expected more for how much I paid for a "premium" phone.
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I don't really know the details for the warranty but saying that a phone isn't premium because it may break on the first drop is like saying that a Ferrari isn't premium because it may scratch/get dents in its first accident. Just saying maybe if you own a Ferrari or an expensive phone just be a little more careful.
Coming from a Meizu MX5 this phone feels fantastic! Part of me does miss the solid feeling of aluminium and I kind of agree with alwayslearning, it does feel a little fragile. Mines in a Spigen clear case at the moment but that detracts from its style so I've got a ultimateshield on the way instead!
Certainly looks more stylish than an iPhone but perhaps not as robust?
I just received mine today... and so far i like it a lot. I personally think the quality is up there. The form factor is really good and is to me hits the magic spot between size and usability. I'm coming from a Note 5 and i really apreciate how compact this feels in the hand.
Is it perfect? No, but then nothing ever is. I am very happy with it so far. I'm ok with the glass back.. had it on the Note 5 and im really pretty careful with my tech.
Anyway, ive only been able to play with it for a couple of hours so far and i hope my opinion of it doesnt change. At this very moment I love it.
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wznazir said:
I don't really know the details for the warranty but saying that a phone isn't premium because it may break on the first drop is like saying that a Ferrari isn't premium because it may scratch/get dents in its first accident. Just saying maybe if you own a Ferrari or an expensive phone just be a little more careful.
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To be clear, I was really looking forward to the S7 edge. Maybe it is just expectations for mobile phones. I'll let others wordsmith "premium". For me, premium is paid for appearance and performance. I'm expecting scratches and dents. But cracked at 2 feet?
Everyone product category has a level of expected performance, durability (and in cases of cars, Safety) for that specific category.
Using the analogy of a Ferrari is a bit of a stretch and false analogy. Nonetheless, to use your analogy, For a Ferrari, you expect power/speed, quality materials, sexy appearance, and if you hit something going 25 mph, you survive. The last part, you expect of any motor vehicle. It's a pretty low bar. If I drove it 200 mph, I would have NO expectation of surviving. There are certain things you expect from a car (let alone a premium car).
For a premium phone, you expect power/speed, quality, some sex appeal, and if you drop 2 feet, it doesn't crack. The last part, you expect of any mobile phone. It's a pretty low bar. If I dropped 20 feet, I would have no expectation of it surviving. Mobile phones are built with the expectation of a typical life of a mobile phone. Yes, that includes drops. And I'm pretty sure all mobile phone manufactures do drop test and built to it.
A friend responded that she dropped her S7 edge around 10 times with no issue. Yes, that is what I would expect! (ignore that that 10 drops in 2 weeks would be considered pretty clumsy by any standard). I don't necessary understand why others have lower expectations of a mobile phone.
Another way to think about it is to compare to how competitors treat "premium". Remember iphone 6 bend-gate? I never thought of putting a phone in my back pocket, but peoples expectation is that a phone is mobile and doesn't bend. Frankly I was surprised Apple made folks whole. The difference? A premium service for a premium product. I'm not saying Apple is perfect. IMHO, it is better than Samsung in their approach.
I just did a search on google, and discover review sites warning that the S7 edge is much easier to crack. Wish I knew that before hand. It was my mistake to assume S7 edge would be similar quality as S6 edge +. How many here have seen drop test of S6 on youtube? Amazing.
Really sad given that S7 edge has so much potential. Now, I have to look at a $800 Samsung "premium" everyday. I think others are more forgiving then me with this experience. I've not given up on Android. Just Samsung "premium".
my 2 cents.
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To be clear, I was really looking forward to the S7 edge. Maybe it is just expectations for mobile phones. I'll let others wordsmith "premium". For me, premium is paid for appearance and performance. I'm expecting scratches and dents. But cracked at 2 feet?
Everyone product category has a level of expected performance, durability (and in cases of cars, Safety) for that specific category.
Using the analogy of a Ferrari is a bit of a stretch and false analogy. Nonetheless, to use your analogy, For a Ferrari, you expect power/speed, quality materials, sexy appearance, and if you hit something going 25 mph, you survive. The last part, you expect of any motor vehicle. It's a pretty low bar. If I drove it 200 mph, I would have NO expectation of surviving. There are certain things you expect from a car (let alone a premium car).
For a premium phone, you expect power/speed, quality, some sex appeal, and if you drop 2 feet, it doesn't crack. The last part, you expect of any mobile phone. It's a pretty low bar. If I dropped 20 feet, I would have no expectation of it surviving. Mobile phones are built with the expectation of a typical life of a mobile phone. Yes, that includes drops. And I'm pretty sure all mobile phone manufactures do drop test and built to it.
A friend responded that she dropped her S7 edge around 10 times with no issue. Yes, that is what I would expect! (ignore that that 10 drops in 2 weeks would be considered pretty clumsy by any standard). I don't necessary understand why others have lower expectations of a mobile phone.
Another way to think about it is to compare to how competitors treat "premium". Remember iphone 6 bend-gate? I never thought of putting a phone in my back pocket, but peoples expectation is that a phone is mobile and doesn't bend. Frankly I was surprised Apple made folks whole. The difference? A premium service for a premium product. I'm not saying Apple is perfect. IMHO, it is better than Samsung in their approach.
I just did a search on google, and discover review sites warning that the S7 edge is much easier to crack. Wish I knew that before hand. It was my mistake to assume S7 edge would be similar quality as S6 edge +. How many here have seen drop test of S6 on youtube? Amazing.
Really sad given that S7 edge has so much potential. Now, I have to look at a $800 Samsung "premium" everyday. I think others are more forgiving then me with this experience. I've not given up on Android. Just Samsung "premium".
my 2 cents.
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There's a lot more to consider. They made millions of those phones and can't expect them to have the exact same build (while yes, they are all very close). Also, the drop has to be taken into consideration. If your friend drops hers 10 times on carpet or from like 1 feet, sure it won't get damaged. If you drop it from 2 feet on concrete, now that's a different story. The angle to which it drops and lend also makes a big difference. The device isn't it's strongest on every angle and some will definitely break it easily (take an egg for example, which is hard to break at the top and bottom but sides are flimsy).
Anyway, just this to say that while I agree it shouldn't break so easily. It can and will happen depending on quite a few facts, whether it is a "premium" device or not.
As a side note, Apple sell "premium" devices as well for the same price which also break and crack, comparing them is pointless without all the facts They'd have to be put through the exact same drop (angle, speed, material on which they drop) and even then, they'd both have angles at which they resist/survive better and worse since they're built differently.