Seems very odd to me that there is little of no support for Cherry Trail (ie: Intel z85xx or z87xx) chip sets (SOCs) by the RemixOS for PC and Android-x86 development teams!
I just did a search on the internet, and almost every Intel based device that I found (that had an 8 to 12 inch screen) was based on Cherry Trail SOCs. This included Microsoft Surface devices (except Surface Pro), almost every device coming out of China, and virtually every other Windows 10 tablet device. Whats more, all of the "Intel Stick" computer devices are based on Cherry Trail.
This small Intel based devices are the places where RemixOS and Android-x86 seem most useful.
NOTE: I have tried (installing RemixOS and Android-x86 on) 3 of these small devices. RemixOS would not boot on ANY of the devices I tried. Android-x86 only booted on 1 of them, and the WIFI and sound didn't work on that device.
It is not odd, just really hard. Support for Cherry Trail and Bay Trail are spotty to poor in all Linux based operating systems at the moment. Intel doesn't seem too keen to aid Linux development here like they do with much of their products, so it is much more difficult for developers to figure out how to create working drivers and kernel support for these devices.
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Not sure if this is the correct forum to post this. I have searched the web and this forum and only found partial answers so please excuse me if this has been discussed. If so a reply with the link would be very helpful.
With AMD and Intel both producing low powered x86 chips, especially AMDs C-50 which incorporates the Radeon HD graphics processor on the same chip, I was wondering if there are any limitations for hardware manufacturers to use these kind of chips on Tablets running Android.
I know currently Google does not have an x86 port of their own, but are there any particular reasons that would stop them if the chips were comparable in power usage and have faster performance? What would be some drawbacks? Would all the apps run fine on the x86 architecture or would each app need to be recompiled to run on these devices?
I guess what I'm really asking is with your expertise do you see x86 processors as a future of Android tablet computing?
Thanks in advance for all the input.
In theory, they'd just have to re-write the bytecode interpreter on the Dalvik-VM (Assuming it works like Sun's Java VM) Everything you run on your android is on a virtual machine, meaning it has the capability of being cross platform. So yes. It's very possible.
http://www.androidx86.org have you checked this site out??
1st ICS build for virtual machines
Just check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19824180
Given the choice with all other things being equal, I'd take a modern ARM over an X86 chip, unless I'm going to run Windows ware. I've used x86 for like almost 20 out of nearly 23.5 years, and wouldn't trust an X86 Android tablet, now that I've dug into my TF .
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Spidey01 said:
Given the choice with all other things being equal, I'd take a modern ARM over an X86 chip, unless I'm going to run Windows ware. I've used x86 for like almost 20 out of nearly 23.5 years, and wouldn't trust an X86 Android tablet, now that I've dug into my TF .
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Wouldnt trust it for what reason?
Windows 8 will be released with an x86 and ARM version.
The Android OS itself runs very smoothly on x86, I have been using a small hp thinclient t5565 as a debug machine instead of my phone or a virtual machine for 2 weeks now and it performs admirably. Granted I cant play HD games on it, but thats what I have the Enjoy 7 tablet for. android-x86 is just brilliant, in many cases the generic froyo and gingerbread builds breathe new life into old rusty machines, making them very useful once more. The only thing missing, is better generic hardware support for ethernet and various 3D display devices. I am currently looking at an option of using android-x86 as a swop and go solution, since my test machine runs the installed system completely from a USB thumb drive. Which means if it breaks, pull the stick out, pop in another machine and you are back to work. Perfect solution for a POS terminal, library internet access machine or even something to keep the kids out of your hair.
ashmem in Android x86
I developed a simple shared memory IPC in Linux already and I would also like to do it in Android x86.
Does anyone knows on how to do this(shared memory or should I call it "ashmem"?) ?
I really need your help. I'm still a beginner in Android x86, so I hope you can give a step-by-step guide.
Hi all,
I was doing a bit of research to find any news about Ubuntu Touch on x86 platform. But i could not find much of info
So i start this thread for those who are interested to know (Includes me) about UBUNTU Touch on x86 Platform.
Below are the list of good phones with Intel Atom processors. As Ubuntu good with Intel Processors , it should be easy to post to x86 Phones.
Please post if you have any ROM here for Intel phones.
Asus Zenphone 5 & 6 are good & affordable phones to start with.
PS: This is my post. So apologise for the brevity & mistakes
In theory it should be possible to run Ubuntu on an x86 phone as there is also an x86 emulator. I don't know of any actual ROM though.
Thanks. And is there any active development happening on x86 Ubuntu phone ?
And I assume it would be easy to build one . as Ubuntu and x86 is going along for a while now
That would be my ideal phone that can act as a desktop when docked and a phone for the rest.
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I don't think that any hardware manufacturer is currently working on an x86 phone. The two phones which will be released later this year will run on the armhf architecture.
Oh, and please note that as of now it does not covert into a desktop environment yet.
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Love Ihis Idea!
Yes we need development in this area, yes there are a few x86 phones out there like the Intel AZ210 being the most advertised and some others the only complaint about x86 phones is they are the gas hog of the Mobile world but hopefully the Intel M micro processor can lead us into the age of X86 phones. and i would love for some one to port ubuntu touch to one of these devices, please please please!:laugh:
May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
chaithanyaprasad said:
May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
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I'm sorry to disappoint you but the UI does not converge (which is the expression they use for the scaling) yet. Currently, they are focusing on bringing the OS to a state which can be released to manufacturers (that's what they call their rtm milestone). According to Canonical and Meizu (one of the two manufacturers) we can see Ubuntu phones later this year, probably in December! During the next development cycle they will then start work on the desktop UI. The current desktop images which use Unity 8 only display the tablet UI.
What about the x86 Ubuntu touch images?
x86 is the 32 bit architecture, right? Images for an i386 emulator are already available out there. If you want to install it on your Ubuntu desktop, check out the Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
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Never mind, forgot about droidboot instead of uefi. *sigh* we need a grub friendly drodboot.
Android kernel boots with out grub. Can we do something similar
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Any news for Ubuntu Touch x86?(Intel Atom z3580) Tnx
Hello everyone,
I see a lot of demand for one of these two DesktopOS/Android for ARM device, like old tablet (Galaxy Note 10.1) or chromebook (HP11).
When I read a lot of topics, I see that a lot of people said NO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR NOW, and some other said IT'S ALREADY EXIST.
Apparently RemixOS already exist for ARM (like Jide Mini) and PhoenixOS seems to be already compatible.
Does anyone had a solution ? An ultimate answer ?
And if it's yes, maybe a guide for these tablet or chromebook ?
My goal is simple, I would like to test one of these two OS, but don't want to test it on virtual machine or dual boot. For me, these OS are really a good thing, but only for portable device.
Thanks for your futures answers
EDIT: Some links :
http://www.tronsmart.com/?p=3479
http://www.phoenixos.com/download_x86
They use x86 based kernels, from the android x86 project, which means no suppport for ARM devices. Atleast, not yet.
PhoenixOS was just posted in the nexus 9 forum. No working Gapps yet though. Still, progress!
In order for that to be possible, Jide needs to make ports to those devices themselves. The only alternative is fully open-source to allow others to port it themselves. Basically, so long as Jide holds the keys, you can't drive the car where you want.
Thanks for your reply
I saw a few Intel Z8300 Cherry Trail tablets have factory dual boot Windows 10 and Android, so I bought one.
Turns out mine isn't dual boot, but Windows 10 only (my mistake)
However, these cheap (supposedly manufactured in Germany but features a "made in china" on the back) chinese tablets all seem to have pretty much the same specs.
And Cherry Trail processor are obviously able to run dual boots of windows and Android.
Do you think it could work out flashing Cube iWork10, Chuwi, or Telcast' tablets dual boot android image on this phone?
Another possible route could be flashing Android-x86, though this processor is supposedly x64. But it runs a regular Windows 10 x86.
Does this make any sense?
I hate having Windows 10 on my tablet more and more every day lol
Someone has to have an answer.
Bumpitty, I still have no clue
Hi,
I have ARM based SBC such as Odroid XU4 and C4. I want to run desktop oriented Android OS in it. Came across OSes such as BlissOS and PrimeOS which give a desktop experience. But they are for x86. Are there any similar OS offered for ARM based boards such as Odroid?