On the V10 in order to have the DAC in permanent high impedance mode you simply modified the Mixer-Path.xml. I look for that file in the V20 system dump and couldn't find it. I was wondering if one or some of the great minds here at xda could search the system dump to locate the V20 Mixer-Path.xml or find a file that if modified would provide the same results when we get root. Thanks on advanced.
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i don't seem to have an issue with high impedance headphones, i have a pair of Sony xba-h1 that have a ridiculous (for earbuds) 40 ohm impedance and they work wonderfuly. is there a reason you're trying to force it into high impedance mode?
nyterage said:
i don't seem to have an issue with high impedance headphones, i have a pair of Sony xba-h1 that have a ridiculous (for earbuds) 40 ohm impedance and they work wonderfuly. is there a reason you're trying to force it into high impedance mode?
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Yes I want to use the full power of the amp on my low impedance rha ma750. I don't have to crank the volume as high and the sound is richer and crisper. [emoji2]
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Would it be safe to use the high impedance mode for headphones which are not high impedance? My Bose headphones trigger the mode naturally but I wonder for my other headphones.
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Until you find a software workaround, plug a splitter into the phone first. Then plug your device of choice into the other end of the splitter. This tricks the DAC into going into high-impedance mode.
prinzhernan said:
Would it be safe to use the high impedance mode for headphones which are not high impedance? My Bose headphones trigger the mode naturally but I wonder for my other headphones.
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Lot of factors go in to that. The risk is up to the people who try it.
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Until you find a software workaround, plug a splitter into the phone first. Then plug your device of choice into the other end of the splitter. This tricks the DAC into going into high-impedance mode.
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That is aux mode not high impedance mode. You have normal (low) impedance, then aux mode (mid) impedance then high impedance ( max power). I'm shooting for maximum power. [emoji2]
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Bump for this. Id love to see a high impedence mod. If someone could point me in the general direction to start looking on how to create some sort of mod, id love to try and see if i could mess around with it. Not sure how similar LG Nougat vs Samsung Marshmallow is...
There's a good amount of risk in doing that. You're forcing higher voltages normally reserved for drivers with higher resistance. Lower the driver resistance and your current draw on the opamps can hurt the device or fry your low impedance drivers if the gauge wire to the drivers isn't large enough. I don't really see the point in this mod. Any quality DAC is going to be able to drive low impedance hard enough. If your buds aren't loud enough, get better headphones. Just my. $0.02
I force mine into high impedance mode by using an inline sliding volume control, set to minimum when I plug in. It puts 470 ohms in series with my inefficient headphones. Slide it back to full volume after plugging in and I have 1.8V rms high impedance mode.
I too would like a software fix for this.
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I force mine into high impedance mode by using an inline sliding volume control, set to minimum when I plug in. It puts 470 ohms in series with my inefficient headphones. Slide it back to full volume after plugging in and I have 1.8V rms high impedance mode.
I too would like a software fix for this.
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Could you post a link to what you are using (like on amazon)?
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Could you post a link to what you are using (like on amazon)?
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Not really. I got it in a shop in Hong Kong. If it is an analogue knob or slider then it could work.
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I force mine into high impedance mode by using an inline sliding volume control, set to minimum when I plug in. It puts 470 ohms in series with my inefficient headphones. Slide it back to full volume after plugging in and I have 1.8V rms high impedance mode.
I too would like a software fix for this.
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I'm pretty damn sure that if LG believed driving the amp at 100% power, even for low impedance headphones, were a good thing, they would have done it.
My SE846 IEMs use the low power mode. They sound fantastic. You are not doing yourself any benefit by trying to trick the amp into a high power mode, especially by using some piece of crap adapter. If anything, that is going to degrade quality.
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I'm pretty damn sure that if LG believed driving the amp at 100% power, even for low impedance headphones, were a good thing, they would have done it.
My SE846 IEMs use the low power mode. They sound fantastic. You are not doing yourself any benefit by trying to trick the amp into a high power mode, especially by using some piece of crap adapter. If anything, that is going to degrade quality.
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Not sure why these guys are trying it, considering the promotion comes with $150.00 earphones.
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I'm pretty damn sure that if LG believed driving the amp at 100% power, even for low impedance headphones, were a good thing, they would have done it.
My SE846 IEMs use the low power mode. They sound fantastic. You are not doing yourself any benefit by trying to trick the amp into a high power mode, especially by using some piece of crap adapter. If anything, that is going to degrade quality.
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Yes, but your SE846 are sensitive. Other headphones may not be. My Sine headphones need nearly x10 the voltage to reach the same volume. Portable headphone with this low sensitively and low impedance are rare, so LG did not cater for it. But they did allow for it with high impedance headphones, which are typically less sensitive.
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Yes, but your SE846 are sensitive. Other headphones may not be. My Sine headphones need nearly x10 the voltage to reach the same volume. Portable headphone with this low sensitively and low impedance are rare, so LG did not cater for it. But they did allow for it with high impedance headphones, which are typically less sensitive.
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The high impedance mode says it activates at 50 ohms and above. Unless your headphones are above 50 ohms, and somehow not activating it, you're wasting your time.
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I'm pretty damn sure that if LG believed driving the amp at 100% power, even for low impedance headphones, were a good thing, they would have done it.
My SE846 IEMs use the low power mode. They sound fantastic. You are not doing yourself any benefit by trying to trick the amp into a high power mode, especially by using some piece of crap adapter. If anything, that is going to degrade quality.
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The high impedance mode says it activates at 50 ohms and above. Unless your headphones are above 50 ohms, and somehow not activating it, you're wasting your time.
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I'm really not. They are 24 ohms and I get the power I need in high impedance mode.
I thought they were 18 ohms?
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On the V10 in order to have the DAC in permanent high impedance mode you simply modified the Mixer-Path.xml. I look for that file in the V20 system dump and couldn't find it. I was wondering if one or some of the great minds here at xda could search the system dump to locate the V20 Mixer-Path.xml or find a file that if modified would provide the same results when we get root. Thanks on advanced.
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/system/etc/mixer_paths_tasha.xml try there.
What is the mod please? I want to add it to my ROM
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Hello.
I wanna to ask you for something - stock earphones from L9 has got 18 OHm impedance, but if I plug in earphones with 16 OHm impedance will broke my phone/DAC/jack or something other?
I wanna to buy Panasonic HJE120. Will be ok, or not?
Thanks for reply!
It's alright
I hate that not enough people use RMAA or just test these things (unless they're high-end devices). My NuForce NE-700Ms have 16ohms impedance, and they sound fabulous. The source impedance for the L9 has not yet been tested, but they at least seem to be able to drive my IEMs with little/no fuss.
On that note, I'll probably switch to an Optimus G. Source impedance of 1.89ohms places it just above the iPhone 4S (first [tested] smartphone to do that, as far as I know), and overall audio output is impressively low on distortion.
So, I haven't got any problem with 16OHm earphones, yeah?
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So, I haven't got any problem with 16OHm earphones, yeah?
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Too much of worries with so much of details, may leads to heart problems after few years. I would have just plug in and use it without asking anyone. At least I am sure the headphone does not explode in my years. lolz
Hi.
2 OHM's difference can't broke your phone but this headphones will be little bit louder than stock.
http://www.amazon.de/dp/B007F906Q2/...and=476253706331216390&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=
i use this ones, hope that helps. stock jb rooted...,poweramp profile for headset, tasker turns headphone to max vol because controller at the cable.
beautifuel musik, heasdset!!! in ear, tel extrem good, test in wind and little storm...
If the music stutters in Poweramp when the mobile is in lock state, increase audio buffer one notch. Headset button controller app is also fine for volume setting, however, button long press is reserved by JB in contrary to ICS.
On my various Nokia phones, the volume limiter annihilated any volume differences between 16 and 32 ohm headsets to keep the phone and mainly you healthy. ****ing EU law.
It's easy to force high impedance mode.
I've got a set of headphones with a detachable 1/8" jack at both ends, but you can use a splitter and an extra 1/8" double male plug cable as well.
I use the 1/8" cable and connect my v20 to another cell phone or tablet headphone jack. It immediately goes into high impedance. I unplug only the end going into the other phone and plug that end into my headphones. As long as the cable stays plugged into the v20 it stays in high impedance mode
If your headphones don't have a detachable cable, it'll still work with a splitter and a cable that has male 1/8" plugs at both ends.
Using the splitter, plug your splitter into the v20. Use the double 1/8" jack cable to connect the splitter to a phone or tablet. Once it's in high impedance mode, unplug the cable from both ends and connect your headphones to the splitter. Don't remove the splitter plug from the v20. As long as the splitter stays plugged, you'll be in high impedance mode and get more power into your headphones
Ok...what is the use of high impedance?
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It's easy to force high impedance mode.
I've got a set of headphones with a detachable 1/8" jack at both ends, but you can use a splitter and an extra 1/8" double male plug cable as well.
I use the 1/8" cable and connect my v20 to another cell phone or tablet headphone jack. It immediately goes into high impedance. I unplug only the end going into the other phone and plug that end into my headphones. As long as the cable stays plugged into the v20 it stays in high impedance mode
If your headphones don't have a detachable cable, it'll still work with a splitter and a cable that has male 1/8" plugs at both ends.
Using the splitter, plug your splitter into the v20. Use the double 1/8" jack cable to connect the splitter to a phone or tablet. Once it's in high impedance mode, unplug the cable from both ends and connect your headphones to the splitter. Don't remove the splitter plug from the v20. As long as the splitter stays plugged, you'll be in high impedance mode and get more power into your headphones
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its just wasted a time, and change nothing on everything you hear. look, high impedance automatically triggered only if you put headphone with 50 ohm above. you know why? because regular phone or music player only could deliver impedance with range 15-30ohm. while lg v20 like any other DAP with external amplifier could support from 50-600 ohm. even with 250 ohm headphone if you put on regular phone it would only run on 30 ohm max. and same goes to your phone, even with your v20 or any DAP player which support 50ohm impedance above, if you connect to low impedance headphone it would only run on your max headphone impendance. its not something you could force to work.
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its just wasted a time, and change nothing on everything you hear. look, high impedance automatically triggered only if you put headphone with 50 ohm above. you know why? because regular phone or music player only could deliver impedance with range 15-30ohm. while lg v20 like any other DAP with external amplifier could support from 50-600 ohm. even with 250 ohm headphone if you put on regular phone it would only run on 30 ohm max. and same goes to your phone, even with your v20 or any DAP player which support 50ohm impedance above, if you connect to low impedance headphone it would only run on your max headphone impendance. its not something you could force to work.
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Bro I agree with you. I have used 60ohms headphones and 45ohms headphones with my Lg V20. With 50hms and above, we can see "high impedance headphones connected" in settings.but nothing improved in sound quality. So doing force high impedance is unnecessary.
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Bro I agree with you. I have used 60ohms headphones and 45ohms headphones with my Lg V20. With 50hms and above, we can see "high impedance headphones connected" in settings.but nothing improved in sound quality. So doing force high impedance is unnecessary.
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check your audio files first, make sure you have lossless audio like flac or dsd. for flac i recomended using song with 24bit/96khz. if you playing with stock lg music player you'll see there is "hifi" icon on the selected song. join audiophile comunity for more reference. and for headphones , well.. there are many type, some headphone have flat bass, more vocal, etc. choose one which suits you and the music you played. from what i got while browsing on auido/video community, there are 3 main requirements for best audio experience:
1. good drivers aka player like DAP/AMP or our beloved LGv20 which support impedance above 50 ohm
2. lossless audio files like flac, dsd/dsf which support hifi system
3. good headphone with high impedance that has many feature depends on your need. some people love high bass, while other prefer clear vocals, etc
lg v20 is a good drivers, its not the best but its good if you dont wanna spend another 150-250$ on music player with dedicated amplifiers.
High Impedance Workaround
I was thinking the same thing on an easy workaround, so I bought a $3 splitter, plugged in my AKG headphones which pulls up high impedance, then plugged the B&O earbuds. (that came with my V20)Then unplugged the AKG's and it remained in high impedance mode. Doing that, if you turn the volume up higher than 75%, you'll probably pop an ear drum. It gets waaay loud and clean!
Frodar
H910
Why not just use my mod and forget about extra cables?
NVM.. Just read no root. Sorry folks.
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I never said it improved quality. I understand how DACs and amps work.
The reason for high impedance mode.... If you have headphones with less than the 50ohm threshold, high impedance mode increases power output from the amp. The result.... On low impedance headphones you get more power which means higher volume output.
I have a set of V-moda Crossfade LP cans that are less than 50ohm. On the regular power level, max volume of 75 still lacks a couple decibels for my preference. When I trip high impedance mode I am able to reach a higher volume level and I usually don't need to go higher than 60.
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I was thinking the same thing on an easy workaround, so I bought a $3 splitter, plugged in my AKG headphones which pulls up high impedance, then plugged the B&O earbuds. (that came with my V20)Then unplugged the AKG's and it remained in high impedance mode. Doing that, if you turn the volume up higher than 75%, you'll probably pop an ear drum. It gets waaay loud and clean!
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Exactly... Higher volume output. I didn't say it improved quality, as others are arguing.
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Ok...what is the use of high impedance?
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Look at my last post.....
Triggering high impedance mode and then connecting low impedance headphones will give you more amp power which equals higher volumes. Does nothing about increasing quality just higher volume threshold. But only if you trigger high impedance and THEN connect LOW impedance headphones
This mod worked with a splitter in my v20. Thanks @Sid 6.7. wow listening to low impedance headphones at high power is a fun. Great workaround.
DUNU 200ohm adapter with KZ ZS3 headphone is decreasing sound. I just got the DUNU 200 ohm impedance adapter but after I connect it to the mobile and then KZ ZS3 headphone sound is very small though it is showing now high impedance mode. Please help me out. even I tried another normal headphone, it's the same. Without the adapter, it was okay with normal mode. But it should trigger the high impedance mode with an adapter, right?
Shekhar Thapa said:
DUNU 200ohm adapter with KZ ZS3 headphone is decreasing sound. I just got the DUNU 200 ohm impedance adapter but after I connect it to the mobile and then KZ ZS3 headphone sound is very small though it is showing now high impedance mode. Please help me out. even I tried another normal headphone, it's the same. Without the adapter, it was okay with normal mode. But it should trigger the high impedance mode with an adapter, right?
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200 ohms is over kill. You only need anything over 50 ohms.
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200 ohms is over kill. You only need anything over 50 ohms.
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i brought the following Connector for my LG V30 plus, it is only reducing the volume that means reducing the Noise actually. i brought 75 ohms connector to trigger the HIM on my LG, but not happening. What should i do? any suggestion plz help me out. is there any option i should enable?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DUNU...156c4c4daUmwis
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Shekhar Thapa said:
DUNU 200ohm adapter with KZ ZS3 headphone is decreasing sound. I just got the DUNU 200 ohm impedance adapter but after I connect it to the mobile and then KZ ZS3 headphone sound is very small though it is showing now high impedance mode. Please help me out. even I tried another normal headphone, it's the same. Without the adapter, it was okay with normal mode. But it should trigger the high impedance mode with an adapter, right?
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I too have this problem bro, if you found any solution plz share with me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/9y7qye/why_you_shouldnt_force_high_impedance_mode_on_lg/
Much better discussion here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/modes-quad-dac-t3690567
But any solution
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what is the solution? there is a discussion but no solution.
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Shekhar Thapa said:
JohnFawkes said:
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what is the solution? there is a discussion but no solution.
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The solution is dont use adaptors. Buy high impedance headphones
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Why other says it worked for them?
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Shekhar Thapa said:
The solution is dont use adaptors. Buy high impedance headphones
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This solution, of course, I know but want to use my in-ear old earphones with full sound. There is a forum in XDA where many say it works for them. which adapters works like charm?
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Shekhar Thapa said:
The solution is dont use adaptors. Buy high impedance headphones
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Seriously, that is not really a solution... High impedance headphones simply mean they need more power to drive them, hence the DAC provides more channels to support the gear. If you want more power to your lower impedance gear, LG should have provided a way to enable channels upon demand. They didn't, because it can be a pitfall (see below). Sometimes, 32 to 60 ohm gear really gain from the 25% increase of kicking in the second channel, as opposed to higher impedance which will just eat up that power and not give more oomph.
The DAC increase triggers around 75 ohm or while in Aux mode... My technique for non-root phones is to add an 3.5mm extension, plug in a high impedance adapter/headphones (75 ohm+), unplug adapter, plug in earphones in extension. There's the double-stack extensions (Plug in two in a row to trigger Aux mode), but I haven't had much success with this, worked only sporadically.
However, I strongly recommend simply rooting and flashing a DAC enabler mod. It's much easier to deal with... If most of your gear is under 75 ohm, that second channel will provide 25% more power. Only thing is: Very sensitive gear might not like more power. So be careful. I've known people with gear lower than 32 ohm blow their earpiece with a V30 at high impedance mode.
If you wanna test out triggering different DAC levels, download Hi-Fi status off the play store. It'll pop up a toast notification telling you in which mode you are as you trigger the modes.
**edit** if ever you want a 75 ohm adapter, I have one I'm not using... Depends where you live, I could send it your way.
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Also, it's normal that your 200 ohm adapter decreases the sound quality of your gear if you plug in the adapter and then plug in your IEM's in it... Think of the impedance adapter as adding a bunch of ping pong balls in a corridor... When you walk through it, it'll be much longer to get across. Your 200 ohm impedance adapter is like adding basketballs in this corridor instead of ping pong balls. The adapter gobbles up most of the extra power given by the DAC, so your gear gets none of it.
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karendar said:
JohnFawkes said:
Seriously, that is not really a solution... High impedance headphones simply mean they need more power to drive them, hence the DAC provides more channels to support the gear. If you want more power to your lower impedance gear, LG should have provided a way to enable channels upon demand. They didn't, because it can be a pitfall (see below). Sometimes, 32 to 60 ohm gear really gain from the 25% increase of kicking in the second channel, as opposed to higher impedance which will just eat up that power and not give more oomph.
The DAC increase triggers around 75 ohm or while in Aux mode... My technique for non-root phones is to add an 3.5mm extension, plug in a high impedance adapter/headphones (75 ohm+), unplug adapter, plug in earphones in extension. There's the double-stack extensions (Plug in two in a row to trigger Aux mode), but I haven't had much success with this, worked only sporadically.
However, I strongly recommend simply rooting and flashing a DAC enabler mod. It's much easier to deal with... If most of your gear is under 75 ohm, that second channel will provide 25% more power. Only thing is: Very sensitive gear might not like more power. So be careful. I've known people with gear lower than 32 ohm blow their earpiece with a V30 at high impedance mode.
If you wanna test out triggering different DAC levels, download Hi-Fi status off the play store. It'll pop up a toast notification telling you in which mode you are as you trigger the modes.
**edit** if ever you want a 75 ohm adapter, I have one I'm not using... Depends where you live, I could send it your way.
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Also, it's normal that your 200 ohm adapter decreases the sound quality of your gear if you plug in the adapter and then plug in your IEM's in it... Think of the impedance adapter as adding a bunch of ping pong balls in a corridor... When you walk through it, it'll be much longer to get across. Your 200 ohm impedance adapter is like adding basketballs in this corridor instead of ping pong balls. The adapter gobbles up most of the extra power given by the DAC, so your gear gets none of it.
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I think I should root it. I have ordered Sennheiser HD570 with over 65-75 ohm impedance. Let me check it first. I also have hifi status app. hope it will help me. thanks.
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I got Sennheiser hd570 with 64ohm. It shows high impedance...but still not much drive from dac...it has same output as normal mobile..why??sound is better as it is better headphone but loudness is not there.
Hello guys
I have ordered impedance adapter from ebay the one @ChazzMatt have mentioned at many posts
Before using that i wanted to ask that will it work fine with custom mixer path tavils file that is included in anxiousv30 which provides dual speaker and volume boost
or will i have to restore the original mixer path tavil stock file
also can i use impedance adapter with aux cables in car or not ? i mean its safe or not ?
Ali1228 said:
Hello guys
I have ordered impedance adapter from ebay the one @ChazzMatt have mentioned at many posts
Before using that i wanted to ask that will it work fine with custom mixer path tavils file that is included in anxiousv30 which provides dual speaker and volume boost
or will i have to restore the original mixer path tavil stock file
also can i use impedance adapter with aux cables in car or not ? i mean its safe or not ?
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Really don't need High Impedance.
Also don't use the adapter with AUX cables. I'm honestly trying to figure out why anybody would do that in the first place.
Edit, when plugging in the AUX cables, the device will go into AUX mode.
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The V30 in aux mode outputs the same level at max volume as my desktop Teac UD-301 DAC. You do not need more.
The whole boosting to high impedance mode is foolishness.
There are some headphones that need the 2 Vrms power of HIM vs the 1 Vrms of Aux mode. Planar magnetics in particular require a lot juice.
Playing at a lower volume level in HIM as opposed to at max volume in Normal or Aux mode may also slightly affect SnR, although we haven't been able to measure that objectively.
But I agree that going through hoops to force HIM with high sensitivity IEMs, only to turn volume way down is, well... :cyclops:
There is a persistent myth, going back to the V10, that HIM is needed to (fully) activate the ESS DAC, and that's what drives it.
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Playing at a lower volume level in HIM as opposed to at max volume in Normal or Aux mode may also slightly affect SnR, although we haven't been able to measure that objectively.
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He was asking for his AUX cables for his car.
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There is a persistent myth, going back to the V10, that HIM is needed to (fully) activate the ESS DAC, and that's what drives it.
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I figured out why not to long ago.
LG is marketing high impedance as pure HiFi without mentioning the type of headgear that is giving high impedance. It's just marketing gimmick. Sure, full sized cans will give better sound while also going over 50 ohms. It would have been awesome if LG actually explained what they meant by having a better experience on high impedance.
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He was asking for his AUX cables for his car.
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Yes. I wasn't so much responding to that. I was merely pointing out that, while most of the HIM chasing is indeed unnecessary, there are a few cases where the extra power is needed, and where HIM is not triggered automatically.
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Yes. I wasn't so much responding to that. I was merely pointing out that, while most of the HIM chasing is indeed unnecessary, there are a few cases where the extra power is needed, and where HIM is not triggered automatically.
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Oh I agree man!
I also did a test on my 30 ohms IEM. Used an adapter to trigger high impedance. Talk about degrading audio quality.
All the people chasing high impedance is from misinformation. However as you always point out, some gear needs it though.
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Ok so i currently own a pair of kz zs10 which have 32ohm impedance so i guess using adapter with them is going to be worth it or not?
Ali1228 said:
Ok so i currently own a pair of kz zs10 which have 32ohm impedance so i guess using adapter with them is going to be worth it or not?
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I used it with high quality 35ohm earbuds, but then later after rooting, I used Anxious V30 module to get forced HIM. So, I no longer need to use impedance adapter to force HIM.
This quad DAC will try to give you the best sound, depending on what you have connected to it. So, that's why some say you don't need the impedance adapters.
But the impedance adapters are just to do what the Anxious V30 module does (force HIM or the equivalent) or whiskeyomega's audio mods. If people don't want to do that, they don't have to.
Ali1228 said:
Ok so i currently own a pair of kz zs10 which have 32ohm impedance so i guess using adapter with them is going to be worth it or not?
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Noooooooo
The distortion is horrendous! Mostly I guess due to the BA. You don't want Anxious mod either. You can possibly kill the IEM's. I would HIGHLY recommend not using a mod. You don't need forced HIM with the KZ.
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You will thank me later. Trust me on this.
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Ali1228 said:
Ok so i currently own a pair of kz zs10 which have 32ohm impedance so i guess using adapter with them is going to be worth it or not?
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Also take a look here,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/accessories/budget-earbuds-dac-t3714785/page8
I showed SS of the 3rd party cable I bought for my CCA C10. They can also be used with the KZ ZS10 Pro.
However, I have another cable on the way just for the KZ.
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Obviously you have a choice of whatever color you want. This particular color is out of an aesthetic choice. The cable is for audio. I also noticed I set the volume down lower with the cable. You do get a bit of volume boost . If you find the volume not loud enough, it's because of stock cable.
This really does help the KZ and CCA sound better. I've tried every genre of sound. 3+ hours going between songs and cables and both IEM'S. So it's not placebo.
I can always host high rez files that I used. Just pm me if you want some good examples.
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ChazzMatt said:
I used it with high quality 35ohm earbuds, but then later after rooting, I used Anxious V30 module to get forced HIM. So, I no longer need to use impedance adapter to force HIM.
This quad DAC will try to give you the best sound, depending on what you have connected to it. So, that's why some say you don't need the impedance adapters.
But the impedance adapters are just to do what the Anxious V30 module does (force HIM or the equivalent) or whiskeyomega's audio mods. If people don't want to do that, they don't have to.
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My doubts are, can i root my V30Plus even after Pie update? is it possible.
And also can i update Lib files for DTS?
P.K.Shivaram said:
My doubts are, can i root my V30Plus even after Pie update? is it possible.
And also can i update Lib files for DTS?
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All V30 variants can be rooted.
ROOT Your LG V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
The Root Sticky specifically talks about DTS. . Bottom of post #1.
I use my phone with 16Ω, 32Ω and 60Ω IEMs/Headphones and I don't care about impedance mode. Sound quality is the same whatever mode you're in, it just gives more power/volume that's it.
If you feel that your headphones are underpowered even at max volume, that's when you should think about these hacks. In most cases it's useless and not recommended.
Hello, I was reading something that the V30 only uses the ES9218P DAC Chip when you insert a super high quality ear phone, can some one comment as to whether this is true? And if so, is there a mod or something to force it to use the chip at all times?
googler01 said:
Hello, I was reading something that the V30 only uses the ES9218P DAC Chip when you insert a super high quality ear phone, can some one comment as to whether this is true? And if so, is there a mod or something to force it to use the chip at all times?
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If you're on stock firmware the quad DAC is used all the time. However, how many of the quad (four) DAC channels are activated depends on the impedance of your headphones. Usually about 50 ohms for all four.
There are mods (requires root) to force High Impedance Mode (HIM) no matter what headset you're using. That's not always best if you're using low quality headset/earbuds.
I use a version of forced HIM -- using Anxious V30 mod, but she toned it down in later versions of the mod to only half the volume for earbuds with less than 50 ohms which didn't naturally activate "normal" HIM. She called it faux HIM or other names because some audiophiles argued with her terminology.
They'll probably argue with mine also -- but I'm explaining it so it's easily understood.
googler01 said:
Hello, I was reading something that the V30 only uses the ES9218P DAC Chip when you insert a super high quality ear phone, can some one comment as to whether this is true? And if so, is there a mod or something to force it to use the chip at all times?
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The quad dac is activated no matter what.
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I will post a link that has a possible work around. I use it, but not sure that it is needed to enhance your low impedance phones. You can try it and see, I guess. It will be in the first post of the link as a "spoiler".
I also have downloaded an app that let's you know if it is in normal, external DAC (the work around), or HIM mode. The app is, "hi-fi status LG".
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/music-apps-tips-and-tricks-for-the-lg-v30.868978/
Use it or not. It may help or not. I do use the work around with my low impedance head phones.
The impedence modes only bump up the amplification to accommodate power hungry earphones.
There is no impact on sound quality. You should not worry about it, just plug in your erphones and enjoy.