Incipio off grid battery charging - Moto Z Questions & Answers

Any one else noticed that incipio offgrid battery only charges with Moto turbo charger and not with any other charger ?
With other chargers it shows waiting to charge

Nope. I've had no issues charging with my Nexus 5X charger or a random cable/wall plug combo.
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With included charger, mod and phone charge at the same time. Other chargers phone charges to 100% then charges mod.

You can also charge the mod directly on a wireless charger. I do that - when it is off the phone.

theligu said:
With included charger, mod and phone charge at the same time. Other chargers phone charges to 100% then charges mod.
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That's what I thought but both charged at the same time using a random cable and my portable charger.
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It will charge at the same time if the connected wallwart outputs at 5V/3A minimum, which constitutes as "TurboPower" by the phone.
Doesn't have to be the included charger. Any USB-PD compatible or 5V/3A charger should do the same.

Don't use a high amperage 5V/3A charger with this phone!
Type C cables use thinner leads than micro USB, and can't take the high current.
My "Golf" brand cable started glowing at the Type C tip, the metal got so hot it turned red, and melted the plastic WHEN IN the phone.
It worked without issues for two weeks, but the tip of the plug was often luke warm, but that time for some reason it overheated and short circuited.
Incredibly my phone survived, but I'm never using a non-QC charger after this.

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USB car charger

Hey guys,
I was wondering if these USB car chargers are compatible for the TP2?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dual-2-Ports-US...Accessories?hash=item518f99b7a9#ht_3242wt_958
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/DC-Car-Cigarett...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a567814a2
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silver-Mini-Uni...Accessories?hash=item414bbc871c#ht_2000wt_958
I'm asking because I remember in the past I used a HTC charger to charge the O2 XDA Flame and it charged. However, the phone started acting VERY weird and freeze a lot. I ended up having to hard reset it
Thanks!
I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
chompx2 said:
I think any USB charger for electronic gaget that has a output of 5.0 v should work. It does not matter if it is an AC charger or and car lighter charger. I got one of these AC and another car lighter charger. There are all 5.0 v output. I use them to charge Ipod and phones.
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It's best to choose one that can supply enough current (I think the wall charger supplies 2A, but 1A should be ok). Some devices will still trickle charge with a lower current, but others just won't trigger the charging circuits at all.
I had a cheap car charger that seemed to work ok most of the time, but it got worryingly hot after a while.
My TP2 came with an official HTC charger, so I use that now and it's great.
I have noticed that if the phone is OFF then 1A is not enough and usually stops charging but if the phone is ON it completes the charge..but takes for ever.
Has anyone experienced the charging overheat situation where the led flashes orange and green? I dont know if that is the situation but it only happens when I am charging in the car and the unit gets hot.
My old "OEM HTC" charger I got on ebay (the one with the blue HTC light) just stopped charging my phone after about 10-15 uses.
It lights on (charger), but my phone doesn't catch any charge lol
I got a 1A one, and unfortunately it cannot produce enough juice when running the GPS (copilot), after a while the phone shows a message telling the charge current is not enough.
The wall charger that came with the original box is 1A too, thus the problem might be with the cheap car charger.
Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
Hey!
Mine is a cheapo but does the trick. Charges the phone with satnav running, today went from 23% to full in less than 3 hours. Plus it's really tiny so I can keep my ashtray closed all the time. Using it with mini retractable cable, it all fits in the ashtray and it's handy to use.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Micro-Nano-Ti...daptors_SM?hash=item5638c26773#ht_1747wt_1165
3waygeek said:
Brando sells a 2A car adapter that should do the trick. They're out of stock right now, but it may be worth a look.
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The manual states that the output of the AC charger is 5.0 volts and 1 amp. That means the output of the DC/car charger should be the same. Using a 2 amp current might be charging the device faster but it would probably generate more heat and might shorten the battery life.
one tip, regardless of which charger you end up with, is to not leave the phone plugged in while starting the car. my understanding is that there can be be large voltage surges or fluctuations during the startup. depending on the design on the voltage converter inside the charger, some of that may be making it through to the phone.
i once had a AA NiCd battery smart charger that went wonky after using it in the car a lot, but that was with a straight-through 12V car to charger connector.
I made my own charger for using as a GPS on my motorcycles.
There is a charge select line in the plug. If the phone detects that it is connected to a USB port, the phone will not 'pull' more the 500ma. If that line is set to indicate a non USB port, then the phone will pull 1 amp. MAX (I never saw more then 900ma myself).
If you have the wrong charge plug, it may only charge at 500ma. If you have the correct plug and the charger can manage 5 amps, the phone will still only take 1 amp max.
For a while I used the phone in a waterproof box called an Aquabox. It would overheat during charging. I now only charge the phone when it is not in an enclosed hot space.
I'm still using the off-brand 'for Blackberry' car charger I got back when I had my Kaiser. Seems to be working just fine with this phone as well.

Special Charger?

Anyone know if there is any advantage of the charger that comes with the phone compared to a generic micro USB charger?
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They all seem to charge the phone slowly (even the included one). The stock charger is a 1 amp charger, as long as you're using a 1+ amp charger, you'll be fine. Some aftermarket chargers may be lower, they will also work but charge even more slowly. Worth mentioning is that a higher amperage charger will work, but will only charge at the same speed as the included charger.
Same..........
Just bought a new charger cause I left my other in another state, it's the dual usb 3.1 amp charger and it took me from 0 - 90% in 45 minutes. Picked it up at tmo
jre1981 said:
Just bought a new charger cause I left my other in another state, it's the dual usb 3.1 amp charger and it took me from 0 - 90% in 45 minutes. Picked it up at tmo
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Which charger is this exactly?
Is this the 'Universal Micro USB 2-in-1 Charger' listed on TMobile's website?
I also got a cheap micro USB charger off of amazon.com and its a trickle charge and it also makes the screen unusable as in it doesn't take touch input at all it came with a data cable for the computer as well and it actually drained my battery instead of charged it.

No rapid charge using non-HTC chargers?

Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
I'm using old charges at home and in the office and it did seems slow but had not heard of rapid charge. Will the phone indicate this rapid charge mode? If not, is it real?
I'm getting slow charging even on the stock HTC charger. Not sure how I can enable this rapid charge cause 4+ hours from 0-1% to full is a bit ridiculous.
use orginal charger is best , maybe it has some relationship with your battery life
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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flooty333 said:
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
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Try to change your phone
c5satellite2 said:
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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i've done exactly this, and damned if the One still refuses to draw more than ~500 ma off of anything but the 2.1 A wallwart it came with (i don't have any others to try with). i'm about to dig out an old inverter to see if that will actually work. wish i'd paid more attention to my EE dad when i lived at home; i've gotten a serious crash course in this stuff while trying to get my One to charge in my car, when it's on.
edit: so i got my old inverter out, and spent about 15 minutes testing. i used the 2.0A adapter that came with my Nexus 7 to test, as well as the 3.1A Mediabridge adapter i got here. my phone was at about 45% when i started testing. unplugged, Battery Monitor Widget reported a drain of anywhere between 500ma and 650ma (running Ingress, wifi on). plugged in to the Mediabridge adapter showed, at best, a drain of 50ma. the Nexus adapter plugged in to my inverter charged at a fairly consistent ~120ma. i didn't touch my phone the entire time.
i left my Nexus 7 at work so i can't use it to repeat the test, but i will do so tomorrow. the cable i'm using is this one. i'm not crazy about having a ridiculous DC-AC inverter in my car for my phone, but if that's what i have to do so it can be used and not drain, then so be it. admittedly, i don't really understand these things enough to explain these variations, but i plan on learning ASAP. perhaps somebody else can shed some light on why the device charges different, and how it identifies an AC-USB adapter vs a DC-USB adapter.
sluflyer06 said:
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
nest75068 said:
Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
veener79 said:
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
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Same here, 2a Nexus 7 brick with a long Logitech USB cable, much faster than stock (and longer)
Harbinger1080 said:
Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
nest75068 said:
I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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My next car will too, because I can only imagine that power requirements for these devices is going to increase.
That said, I think I have a winner, and instead of retyping my posts, I'll just link to that thread instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41797839&postcount=6
Since the snap Dragon 600 has fast charging capabilities, why didn't HTC Include it in the kernel??? I've noticed my 2500 mAh note battery charges faster than my 2300 MAH HTC one
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Using a car charger with a magnetic charging cable

Just thought I'd let people know of my experiences using a car charger with the USB magnetic charging cable. I have a 2.1 amp dual port USB car charger and also a Sony magnetic charging cable from my CP12 battery cover. I tried using the magnetic charging cable plugged into the car charger this morning and attached the magnetic charging end to my Xperia Z Ultra. The phone was on around 24% and started charging pretty quickly up until around 40% within probably 20mins. This is quite fast for this particular car charger as it seemed to take ages when I used to use it to charge my HTC One X with a normal micro USB cable. Anyway after it hit 40% I noticed it had stopped charging. I had a look at the charger and the power LED was off so I went to pull it out to check and noticed it was very hot! Not sure if it blew a fuse or went into thermal overload shutdown but I definitely think that it isn't really rated at 2.1amp.
Has anyone else had experiences using a car charger to charge their Xperia Z Ultra? I might just try the micro USB cable next time but I liked how quickly it charged with the magnetic charging cable.
I haven't tried it but I think the problem is the magnetic cable that you are using.
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julz said:
Just thought I'd let people know of my experiences using a car charger with the USB magnetic charging cable. I have a 2.1 amp dual port USB car charger and also a Sony magnetic charging cable from my CP12 battery cover. I tried using the magnetic charging cable plugged into the car charger this morning and attached the magnetic charging end to my Xperia Z Ultra. The phone was on around 24% and started charging pretty quickly up until around 40% within probably 20mins. This is quite fast for this particular car charger as it seemed to take ages when I used to use it to charge my HTC One X with a normal micro USB cable. Anyway after it hit 40% I noticed it had stopped charging. I had a look at the charger and the power LED was off so I went to pull it out to check and noticed it was very hot! Not sure if it blew a fuse or went into thermal overload shutdown but I definitely think that it isn't really rated at 2.1amp.
Has anyone else had experiences using a car charger to charge their Xperia Z Ultra? I might just try the micro USB cable next time but I liked how quickly it charged with the magnetic charging cable.
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I'm actually very impressed that you were able to get the magnetic cable to stay. If I am able to get the cable to stick, I can't even breathe around it.
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I'm actually very impressed that you were able to get the magnetic cable to stay. If I am able to get the cable to stick, I can't even breathe around it.
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100% agree
julz said:
Just thought I'd let people know of my experiences using a car charger with the USB magnetic charging cable. I have a 2.1 amp dual port USB car charger and also a Sony magnetic charging cable from my CP12 battery cover. I tried using the magnetic charging cable plugged into the car charger this morning and attached the magnetic charging end to my Xperia Z Ultra. The phone was on around 24% and started charging pretty quickly up until around 40% within probably 20mins. This is quite fast for this particular car charger as it seemed to take ages when I used to use it to charge my HTC One X with a normal micro USB cable. Anyway after it hit 40% I noticed it had stopped charging. I had a look at the charger and the power LED was off so I went to pull it out to check and noticed it was very hot! Not sure if it blew a fuse or went into thermal overload shutdown but I definitely think that it isn't really rated at 2.1amp.
Has anyone else had experiences using a car charger to charge their Xperia Z Ultra? I might just try the micro USB cable next time but I liked how quickly it charged with the magnetic charging cable.
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Hi Julz,
I hope your device is ok. I was using a similar charger in my car. Had two USB slots. 1amp and 2.1amp.
I'm not sure what cause it, or what happened. But I've had to send my Ultra to the store where I bought it. For some reason my device did that same as you describe. It also wouldn't stop the LED from showing. Meaning that it thought it was charging all the time. (even when not plugged in)
Now amps should be fine. Its the volts that you have to worry about. I posed a thread about batteries that talks about amps volts and how to look after your device... take a look
LINK:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505165&highlight=battery
check it out...
I have been using my Magnetic charging cable ( I pulled out of my Sony DK30 )
in my car for over a month with the Griffin PowerJolt Micro & have not had a
single issue with the phone or the charger . here are the specs & a pic of the charger .
Technical Specifications
Input: 12 volts DC
Output: 5 volts DC at 2.1 amps
Output power: 10 watts link to charger .
link to charger =
http://store.griffintechnology.com/ipad/powerjolt-micro-ipad
Yeah I think the generic no name chargers probably lack quality circuitry to regulate the charging properly. I'm hoping the Xperia Z Ultra has some decent built in charging protection to prevent issues with minor spikes or fluctuations. Brand name chargers like griffin should be ok.
Similarly, been using the magnetic cable with a griffin car adapter without any problems since I got my unit.

Wireless charger??

I'm rocking the zero lemon battery and since I've bought plenty of chargers and none seem to fix my slow charging problems is there any wireless chargers? Will me using the zero lemon battery not allow me to use a wireless? Also if all this is fine, does anyone have any recommendations??
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Even though you can try to use that battery with wireless charging it won't fix your slow charging rate. Wireless charging goes max to 0.6 A (600 ma) when it comes to charging. So it's 1/3 the speed of your regular wall socket charger.
BunnyPig said:
Even though you can try to use that battery with wireless charging it won't fix your slow charging rate. Wireless charging goes max to 0.6 A (600 ma) when it comes to charging. So it's 1/3 the speed of your regular wall socket charger.
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When I say slow charging I mean it comes up on my screen saying charge it with the cards given. It charges about 30% in about 9-10 hours.
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buckeyestilidie said:
When I say slow charging I mean it comes up on my screen saying charge it with the cards given. It charges about 30% in about 9-10 hours.
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Something is wrong with your charger or cable then. My ZL charged from ~78%-100% in about an hour last night. The plug adapter that came with the phone and a USB cable I've used for a while, from a Nook I think. Wireless will be VERY slow. It's fine for topping off, but if you drain it down you will want to use a wired charger. You can use a wireless charger with the ZL, there's some info in one of the threads talking about what you need to order. You can't use the contacts on the back of the phone for it, you need to use one of the low profile USB plug type.
If you want fast charging you need to use the adapter that came with your phone, or another known good adapter, and a good quality USB cable. It doesn't have to be USB3, a USB2 cable will work fine, but it needs to be good quality. Monoprice is a good place for inexpensive, but good quality cables.
If you are connecting to a computer USB port, you will charge slow unless it's a USB3 with a USB3 cable.
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Something is wrong with your charger or cable then. My ZL charged from ~78%-100% in about an hour last night. The plug adapter that came with the phone and a USB cable I've used for a while, from a Nook I think. Wireless will be VERY slow. It's fine for topping off, but if you drain it down you will want to use a wired charger. You can use a wireless charger with the ZL, there's some info in one of the threads talking about what you need to order. You can't use the contacts on the back of the phone for it, you need to use one of the low profile USB plug type.
If you want fast charging you need to use the adapter that came with your phone, or another known good adapter, and a good quality USB cable. It doesn't have to be USB3, a USB2 cable will work fine, but it needs to be good quality. Monoprice is a good place for inexpensive, but good quality cables.
If you are connecting to a computer USB port, you will charge slow unless it's a USB3 with a USB3 cable.
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I've bought a couple chargers on eBay and they said it was OEM, but neither have worked. One was a Motorola and the other was one specifically made for the Note 3, or so it said.
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buckeyestilidie said:
I've bought a couple chargers on eBay and they said it was OEM, but neither have worked. One was a Motorola and the other was one specifically made for the Note 3, or so it said.
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Didn't you get one in the box your phone came in? Try that one. Like batteries, chargers are often fake and don't meet the specs they list.
ttabbal said:
Didn't you get one in the box your phone came in? Try that one. Like batteries, chargers are often fake and don't meet the specs they list.
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I bought the phone used on swappa
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Try a usb 2.0 cable to charge it.
The little extra part for the 3.0 seems to have gone bad in my phone after only 4 months.
If I charge it with the cable that came with it, I have the results you are saying.
If I charge it with a 3 year old usb 2.0 style charger, it charges fine.
Good luck!
Get a usb voltage/current tester. They are like $10. You can test all your chargers and cords and find the under performers.
My phone with zerolemon charges fast with the original samsung charger, and my Asus t100 charger. Fast being relative, from 20% to full it can take 4 hours or so. I've never timed it 100%
Grantius said:
My phone with zerolemon charges fast with the original samsung charger, and my Asus t100 charger. Fast being relative, from 20% to full it can take 4 hours or so. I've never timed it 100%
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Does your battery seem to die quicker right after you unplug it?
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buckeyestilidie said:
Does your battery seem to die quicker right after you unplug it?
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Yes, it drops to 97% straight away. This is because it drains in the background a little as the charger doesn't trickle charge. See this for an explanation http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/

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