N9 LTE Radio vs N7 LTE - Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I flashed the full NPF26F Google image over NRD91N on my N9 LTE (volantisg) . My current baseband version is 0.09.30.0105_0055. Can someone please confirm this is the current radio for the N9 LTE version?
Also, could someone please help explain the difference between modems in the N9 LTE tablet versus the N7 LTE tablet? For the N7 LTE (and Nexus phones), the Google image file contains a radio.img and the devices have a modem partition that can be flashed separately with this file. Using Fastboot, I've been able to change radios on several Nexus phones I've owned, as well as the N7 LTE. The N9 LTE tablet is different. It has no visible modem partition, AND the Google image file contains no radio.img.... So the question is how are the modem drivers updated? Is modem located within the bootloader partition and updated with bootloader.img? Is this just due to a manufacturer design difference between HTC and Asus? Thanks.

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[Q] Does radio affect LTE capability?

Greetings,
Ive lurked on xda for years without ever posting. All problems are solvable with a little research and the help of our mutual friend google
Im on my 4th HTC device, now a OneX+ that was brought into Dubai from Taiwan. Having successfully rooted and rommed all my phones and tablets, I kinda jumped the gun and started mucking around with my phone a bit early, using the rootboot early on.
I attained SU properly, but I had the same problems as others that in HBOOT, the radio was "unknown". Unfortunately I didnt write down the original radio settings, so im not entirely sure what my device is.
Now with the latest CWM, I have a working radio, CWM and AndroRevolution 3.0 working brilliantly. Radio is being reported again as the EU version of .16
However what I wanted to know are the following questions:
1) Just a bit of confirmation; the boot.img dictates the radio, correct?
2) If yes, then is it possible to flash a different radio than the original? If no, then does this mean since my radio is confirmed and everything is working, my current radio _IS_ the correct one?
3) My region and provider has LTE support and my provider says I only need to enable it on my phone. However using the dialcode to access test settings and change through the modes, it keeps switching from any LTE reception back to something with WCDMA. I cannot even switch to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto. It switches back within 2 seconds.
So what Im trying to ascertain here is, do I possibly have the wrong radio, and if I do is there a way to figure out what it should have been?
The other piece of the puzzle is that despite the unit is from Taiwain, the original language when i switched it on was German, which would suggest it is in fact a EU unit.....
Ive searched through many tools, apps, threads, specs, with no luck in answering the question.... Any help is greatly appreciated.
Paz
1. Boot.img is the kernel and has nothing to do with the radio
2. You can only flash different radio versions by either flashing an RUU or by S-OFF. Radio is a security protected partition. FLASHING A RADIO WILL NOT ENABLE 4G ON A NON 4G DEVICE!! The HOX+ Inrernational version is 3G only. So in answer to your question. Yes you can flash a new radio, but no you will never have 4G on an international hox+
AndroHero said:
1. Boot.img is the kernel and has nothing to do with the radio
2. You can only flash different radio versions by either flashing an RUU or by S-OFF. Radio is a security protected partition. FLASHING A RADIO WILL NOT ENABLE 4G ON A NON 4G DEVICE!! The HOX+ Inrernational version is 3G only. So in answer to your question. Yes you can flash a new radio, but no you will never have 4G on an international hox+
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I do have S-OFF though, so is there a way to confirm if its the international version? The model is PM35110. Any reference online is always in Asian language, so hard to tell. I suppose international version really means all countries.
Bugger.... I bought this specifically for LTE support... :crying:
Paz75 said:
I do have S-OFF though, so is there a way to confirm if its the international version? The model is PM35110. Any reference online is always in Asian language, so hard to tell. I suppose international version really means all countries.
Bugger.... I bought this specifically for LTE support... :crying:
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How did you get S-OFF? Do you mean an unlocked bootloader? because that's a different thing. Nand protection security flag, remains intact when unlocking bootloader. so write protected partitions like radio remain unaffected. Either way it's not a software issue. Its a hardware issue. The LTE device have different radio hardware not just software, So your device is either LTE ready or not.
AndroHero said:
How did you get S-OFF? Do you mean an unlocked bootloader? because that's a different thing. Nand protection security flag, remains intact when unlocking bootloader. so write protected partitions like radio remain unaffected. Either way it's not a software issue. Its a hardware issue. The LTE device have different radio hardware not just software, So your device is either LTE ready or not.
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Er yes, you are not confused, i am. HBOOT is showing S-ON, so I must have been high on caffeine when I was sure I saw S-OFF at one point. However like I mentioned I was playing with the rootboot boot.imgs early on and I was pretty sure I saw S-OFF then. But incidentally that was also when the radio was "unknown" at that time.
Oh well, Im stateside for Xmas and will give my dad the international version and buy myself a new one.
Thanks for your help
p.
Paz75 said:
I do have S-OFF though, so is there a way to confirm if its the international version? The model is PM35110. Any reference online is always in Asian language, so hard to tell. I suppose international version really means all countries.
Bugger.... I bought this specifically for LTE support... :crying:
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You're doing it so, so wrong.
A quick search of the model number reveals that it's the Endeavour C2. If you have an LTE version it would be Evitareul.
1) Wrong. Radios are flashed separately and are not packed into the boot.img.
2) It is possible but unless you are S-OFF you cannot flash one very easily.
3) The reason why is because your device does not support LTE.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
You're doing it so, so wrong.
A quick search of the model number reveals that it's the Endeavour C2. If you have an LTE version it would be Evitareul.
1) Wrong. Radios are flashed separately and are not packed into the boot.img.
2) It is possible but unless you are S-OFF you cannot flash one very easily.
3) The reason why is because your device does not support LTE.
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Yes thanks
Radios are not .img files to be flashed, they're in /system/etc

[Q] SO-03E - changing working LTE basebands?

I have a DoCoMo SO-03E and also an SGP321. I have successfully de-branded the SO-03E to an SGP321. Comparing the two tablets, they are identical (after applying the old firmware system to get the 32Gig partition back).
The only issue I've hit has been with LTE in that it has maintained the DoCoMo LTE "working bands" as viewed from the hidden system menu which are 1, 19 and 21 which aren't applicable here in Australia! So it appears that the LTE working bands are part of the firmware of the SnapDragon chip (which has an integrated radio) and hence not changed via the FTF image.
Does anyone know how or if these can be changed via an API/SDK from Qualcomm (if possible) so that the true SGP321 working bands can be applied to the SO-03E to convert it to a true SGP321 with 32gig of internal flash? Looking at the snapdragonS4 pro data sheets and looking at the Sony description of both tablets that state they both use the Snapdragon S4 pro, I would think there is some EEPROM or memory address that could be updated to tell the SnapDragon that it can use the other LTE bands!?? Maybe Sony has the Snapdragon chips configured in batches - those for DoCoMo with 32gig internal flash and those for the rest of the world - SGP321?
Any ideas as to whether this is possible?
Im in your shoes to!
My DoCoMo is debranded with sgb321 and would love to be able to use LTE instead of 3g
I did read somewhere tho that a part of the hardware is different and isnt possibke to do what u want.
Letz hope I read wrong!
If there is an SDK available and the memory space which holds the configuration details for LTE is available then it may be possible. If not, we're stuck with the DoCoMo LTE bands
I was so hoping the firmware re-programed the radio. The issue is the radio is integrated into the Snapdragon S4 Pro chip and not a separate chip.
spyderboyant said:
I have a DoCoMo SO-03E and also an SGP321. I have successfully de-branded the SO-03E to an SGP321. Comparing the two tablets, they are identical (after applying the old firmware system to get the 32Gig partition back).
The only issue I've hit has been with LTE in that it has maintained the DoCoMo LTE "working bands" as viewed from the hidden system menu which are 1, 19 and 21 which aren't applicable here in Australia! So it appears that the LTE working bands are part of the firmware of the SnapDragon chip (which has an integrated radio) and hence not changed via the FTF image.
Does anyone know how or if these can be changed via an API/SDK from Qualcomm (if possible) so that the true SGP321 working bands can be applied to the SO-03E to convert it to a true SGP321 with 32gig of internal flash? Looking at the snapdragonS4 pro data sheets and looking at the Sony description of both tablets that state they both use the Snapdragon S4 pro, I would think there is some EEPROM or memory address that could be updated to tell the SnapDragon that it can use the other LTE bands!?? Maybe Sony has the Snapdragon chips configured in batches - those for DoCoMo with 32gig internal flash and those for the rest of the world - SGP321?
Any ideas as to whether this is possible?
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How did you manage to debrand the SO-03E?
I tried to flash the SGP321 firmware onto my SO-03E with flashtool but it wouldn't flash.
I have successfully flashed the tablet a couple of times using the flashtool. The last time excluding system with the latest so-03e image to get the 32gig partition back..
what did the flashtool say when you tried to flash the new firmware? Mu tablet is locked and not rooted.
spyderboyant said:
I have successfully flashed the tablet a couple of times using the flashtool. The last time excluding system with the latest so-03e image to get the 32gig partition back..
what did the flashtool say when you tried to flash the new firmware? Mu tablet is locked and not rooted.
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I can't remember what the error was it was a while back when someone first posted the SGP321 firmware. it must have been a bad file or something, I just downloaded the latest firmware and flashed and it worked.
Can you explain how to get my 32gb partition back? do i just flash the So-03e image and tick system in the exclude section, and I will still be on sgp321 stock firmware but with 32gb partition?
thanks for your help!
yep. flash an SO-03E image and make sure you select "system" to ignore
spyderboyant said:
yep. flash an SO-03E image and make sure you select "system" to ignore
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thanks! will try that tonight!
as for the LTE bands, no one seems to even confirm if the hardware actually supports the other bands, and the tablet z doesn't seem popular enough for enough people to look into this. let alone the s0-o3e is even less common.
fingers crossed!
electric0ant said:
thanks! will try that tonight!
as for the LTE bands, no one seems to even confirm if the hardware actually supports the other bands, and the tablet z doesn't seem popular enough for enough people to look into this. let alone the s0-o3e is even less common.
fingers crossed!
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Looking into the specifications for the Snapdragon S4 Pro, the LTE radio is included in the chip which means that its actually in the Snapdragon code, not Android. Hence, if there is some EEPROM memory somewhere on the chip that allows for the programming of the LTE bands via a SnapDragon Software Development Kit (SDK) then it may be possible to update/change the bands. This would take some serious low level knowledge of the chip. I actually started looking at the Snapdragon data sheets and sdk examples and unfortunately no where did they mention changing settings for the radio..... I think there would be some demand for the ability to do this as the SGP321 doesn't support the LTE bands of some of the USA carriers... Supposedly the Qualcomm radios are the only ones at the moment that support ALL LTE bands... Obviously device manufacturers and carriers can limit the LTE bands which makes me think there are no different flavours of the chips and that it is the device manufacturers that are selecting/locking the bands.

[Q] band 12 on vzw motoe xt1528

According to spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones , the Moto E 4G LTE (2nd Gen) XT1527 is band 12 compatible. Can the XT1528 be made band 12 somehow, or is there a physical hardware difference between the devices?
What I gathered reading around here.
* Firmware images are available for T-Mo 1527. However I read that only the 5.02 firmware has band 12 working
* The bootloader is locked on the verizon device
Someone suggested that it might be possible to use part of the 5.02 firmware files for the radio for the 5.1 firmware, to enable band 12, but so far one person claimed that it did not work. . Looking at the number of views this thread has gotten, it appears there is a lot of interest in getting band 12 working on the verizon handset. If any of my statements are not correct, or otherwise, feel free to correct me
Verified the bootloader is locked on my 1528: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b
* If it was not the case, then it might be possible to flash a firmware which enables band 12. Then we need a way to unlock the bootloader to enable band 12.
discord said:
What I gathered reading around here.
* Firmware images are available for T-Mo 1527. However I read that only the 5.02 firmware has band 12 working
* The bootloader is locked on the verizon device
Someone suggested that it might be possible to use part of the 5.02 firmware files for the radio for the 5.1 firmware, to enable band 12, but so far one person claimed that it did not work. . Looking at the number of views this thread has gotten, it appears there is a lot of interest in getting band 12 working on the verizon handset. If any of my statements are not correct, or otherwise, feel free to correct me
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flash encr2b on evitareul

Hello,
I have an HTC ONE X+ ATT evitareul. I would like to move it up to android 4.4 or higher. I know that for the evitareul the highest current version is 4.2.2. I have read that you cannot use encr2b roms, but have not been able to find out why.
I have read that the only difference between this device and the encr2b is the lte radio. I do not intend to use this phone on a cell network. I only intend on using it on WIFI only. Would it still be ok to flash an encr2b rom or is there another reason as to why it will not work?
Thanks in advance!
Don't even try to flash a enrc2b rom! It's not about if you want to use LTE or not... It's because of the processor inside a device. The international version uses a 4-core Tegra chip, while the US version a 2-core Snapdragon. That's the main difference between them.

ROMs and TWRP same for LTE vs wifi version?

I have a LTE version on the way and planning on BL unlock / TWRP / xiaomi.eu beta ROM immediately - just wanted to check if all the files are the same for LTE version vs wifi?
I can't find any references to wifi vs LTE in any of the threads
Well I have WiFi version but I think it's the same recovery. Basically it's all about the screen resolution (manufacturer) and hardware Sd660. You can always try to boot recovery without installing. As I remember: fastboot boot recovery.img
wintermute000 said:
I have a LTE version on the way and planning on BL unlock / TWRP / xiaomi.eu beta ROM immediately - just wanted to check if all the files are the same for LTE version vs wifi?
I can't find any references to wifi vs LTE in any of the threads
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Hi
I have the LTE version and everything works, I have also tried many GSI and all of them works with LTE.
So my guess is that there is only one version of "Clover" and BL unlock, TWRP and ROM are all working on both models.

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