Which Nougat? - Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

Hi,
I am currently running the AOSP version of Nougat on my Z3 (wifi only), but I have noticed that the CM version has just been released. Given the amount of development time are they both likely to carry on being developed? What is the benefit of moving to the CM version over the AOSP version or am I best sticking with the current ROM? I haven't had any real stability issues although when Lux lite kicks in sometimes the tablet will reboot!
Any advice from anyone who has tried them both?
Thanks
Michael

michaelsage said:
Hi,
I am currently running the AOSP version of Nougat on my Z3 (wifi only), but I have noticed that the CM version has just been released. Given the amount of development time are they both likely to carry on being developed? What is the benefit of moving to the CM version over the AOSP version or am I best sticking with the current ROM? I haven't had any real stability issues although when Lux lite kicks in sometimes the tablet will reboot!
Any advice from anyone who has tried them both?
Thanks
Michael
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Sorry for the late reply, just saw this thread today. As for the AOSP and the CM builds on here. The are both built by me, and as I lost my build machine for the AOSP version, it will most likely not be updated any further (not decided yet). As CM uses the same kernel and driver sources stability should be the same on both. Also I implemented LiveDisplay for CM in the next release and lowered the minimum allowed brightness, so you no longer will need Lux Lite.

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Which rom runs faster on Paranoid Android or CM10?

So I've installed paranoid android and I'm pretty happy with it (especially being able to use the camera again!) but I'm wondering if CM10 might not be faster on my YP-G70 or more stable.
Has anybody out there tried both and found one to be faster or more stable than another?
dstarfire said:
So I've installed paranoid android and I'm pretty happy with it (especially being able to use the camera again!) but I'm wondering if CM10 might not be faster on my YP-G70 or more stable.
Has anybody out there tried both and found one to be faster or more stable than another?
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Hello,
They both consist of the same bugs, since Paranoid is based on the CM10 Rom. Any biased feed back about peoples personal experiences might not be of best interest.
Hope this answers your question.
dstarfire said:
So I've installed paranoid android and I'm pretty happy with it (especially being able to use the camera again!) but I'm wondering if CM10 might not be faster on my YP-G70 or more stable.
Has anybody out there tried both and found one to be faster or more stable than another?
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They are built from the same device tree and are nearly identical except for PA enhancements.
Use both and see which one is better?
Paranoid is a good choice

[DISCUSSION] AOSP or LG stock - which do you prefer on G2?

This thread is the place to discuss what kind of ROM you prefer on the G2 and why. This is NOT a "whats best thread" but more of a: why I like AOSP ROMs more than stock LG based ROMs thread.
I will start: I prefer LG stock roms on my G2 because of extra features and d2ts+more responsive dt2w.
What do you prefer and why?
metteduch said:
This thread is the place to discuss what kind of ROM you prefer on the G2 and why. This is NOT a "whats best thread" but more of a: why I like AOSP ROMs more than stock LG based ROMs thread.
I will start: I prefer LG stock roms on my G2 because of extra features and d2ts+more responsive dt2w.
What do you prefer and why?
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AOSP:
- Android 5.1.1
- CAF
- Consistently themed apps
- That much more configuration
- Lighter
- Has ported stock camera
- Better battery
- Less heat
- DT2W is hit or miss
- Some variants have SIM/connectivity issues
-41k in antutu
Stock:
- Has LG features
- Better camera features, not quality in particular
- 34k in antutu
- Worse battery since lollipop
- Heats up quicker, kernel is pretty messy
That's my experience personally!
Choristav said:
AOSP:
- Android 5.1.1
- CAF
- Consistently themed apps
- That much more configuration
- Lighter
- Has ported stock camera
- Better battery
- Less heat
- DT2W is hit or miss
- Some variants have SIM/connectivity issues
-41k in antutu
Stock:
- Has LG features
- Better camera features, not quality in particular
- 34k in antutu
- Worse battery since lollipop
- Heats up quicker, kernel is pretty messy
That's my experience personally!
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I saw you responded to my post about CM12 nightlies not continuing for the G2. Wanted to ask you (since you didn't mention) what 5.1 (CAF source) ROM you're running? What would you suggest for a stable AOSP ROM that has device/kernel specific updates for our G2s?
I personally prefer CM 12.1 ROM based on my device: for now I'm running Resurrection Remix with Llama Kernel and it such a beast: Xposed, Android 5.1.1, all that good stuff that make my G2 breaths again. Only issue I think is the camera and a real "Do not distrub" on the ROM. But, yeah, AOSP / CM ROMs for me.
Tried Euphoria OS (5.1.1 CAF etc).
I felt that the CM12 5.0.2 builds were more stable. I don't remember seeing any noticeable improvement or advantage in moving on to CAF 5.1.1 builds (apart from knowing it's running the latest kernel/modem/etc). Lots of promising stuff in CAF builds but I was looking for something more stable, it's not merged to official CM12.1 yet for a reason (I was getting odd vibration bug where on some vibrates, the vibration won't stop until you do another vibration action), camera seemed even slower than on CM12, etc.
Decided to move back to an LG based ROM for the first time ever, I'm running CloudyG2 3.2 now with Nova Launcher, Settings on List View, etc. Very happy with the Xcam LG Camera running. Interface wise I think I prefer the feel of AOSP, and will probably change back if the CAF stuff ever gets merged for an official CM12.1 nightly but I'm going to give CloudyG2 a go for a while and enjoy taking some good snappy photos.
In aosp iam using the last 5.1.1 like nexus so I'm happy and very very faster than stuck rom. Lg 5.02 is very lagy
Stock because AOSP is really unstable.. AOSP is fine for common user but if you are hardcore user or you working on your phone - AOSP ROMs on G2 are mess..
Stable stock LP for me.
41k to 42k in Antutu. Not 34k. I have 2 G2 D800(s) both performed the same. One is with T-Mobile stock with selectable network band and the other with AT&T stock.
I prefer stock because camera in a
Aosp is suck
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CloudyG2 3.3 (almost stock) - good performance, smooth, better camera.
AOSP or Slim based Roms. Stock is ok for the normal user just doesnt have enough for the power user. CM based is not an option.
LG ROMs, tried 99% of AOSP roms for G2 and most are unstable/buggy....KK AOSP has a bad camera/interace dropping frames (same problem on my old nexus 4, status bar pull down laggy), LP AOSP worse camera, AudioFX not working, bugs, worse battery....
Mashed_Potatoes said:
LG ROMs, tried 99% of AOSP roms for G2 and most are unstable/buggy....KK AOSP has a bad camera/interace dropping frames (same problem on my old nexus 4, status bar pull down laggy), LP AOSP worse camera, AudioFX not working, bugs, worse battery....
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Wow sounds like you used CM based roms alot. I have no issue with the camera. Even use the stock camera app on an AOSP based rom (not CM based).
Stock, because AOSP are mostly unstable, if on AOSP you could use the stock camera (with advanced drivers) and have 4G, I would use AOSP, but cause you couldn't, not...
zelendel said:
Wow sounds like you used CM based roms alot. I have no issue with the camera. Even use the stock camera app on an AOSP based rom (not CM based).
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Tried CAF roms like BlissPop and Euphoria, no diference
Mashed_Potatoes said:
Tried CAF roms like BlissPop and Euphoria, no diference
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Those are still based off of cm. There are only 2 that don't use cm that I know of. Dirty Unicorns and Slim. Anything that is based off of cm is known for issues. They never test any of the code they merge. I won't even mention bliss as that is one of the worst around.
Slim is a fantastic ROM,smooth and fast...it is my daily rom
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zelendel said:
Those are still based off of cm. There are only 2 that don't use cm that I know of. Dirty Unicorns and Slim. Anything that is based off of cm is known for issues. They never test any of the code they merge. I won't even mention bliss as that is one of the worst around.
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I've had Slim on my old Nexus 4 but the Slim bloatware always put me off. Now CM doing the same with its Camera app, Calender, Music............
I never tried Dirty Unicorns. What about Resurrectionremix? Is that CM too?
Mashed_Potatoes said:
I've had Slim on my old Nexus 4 but the Slim bloatware always put me off. Now CM doing the same with its Camera app, Calender, Music............
I never tried Dirty Unicorns. What about Resurrectionremix? Is that CM too?
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I do not know about normal SlimLP,but I do know that SlimSaber is currently the fastest and lightest ROM available.
There is no bloatware,and it is always up to date with the latest Android version(5.1.1 and its subversion).
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I've had Slim on my old Nexus 4 but the Slim bloatware always put me off. Now CM doing the same with its Camera app, Calender, Music............
I never tried Dirty Unicorns. What about Resurrectionremix? Is that CM too?
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Yes. 99% of roms are based off of cm. Which means they keep most of the bugs that cm has never bothered to fix.

Best MM rom?

Hi guys, did you find at least one working and stable Marshmallow rom for ZU? Post here your MM experience.
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AICP 11 is working well here. I have been running it since March and it has become better and better all the time. It works so well that I forgot about Lollipop.
I haven't encountered any show stoppers which would make me flashing LP ROMs again. AICP 11 with Xposed v86 and a couple of modules including Android N-ify and so on is just working well. No issues with proximity sensor or things like that.
The only thing I would say is that the standby power consumption is higher than LP but the SOT is far better on AICP on my device. PowerNap seems to have improved the first thing, though.
I would recommend to check AICP 11 but also Resurrection Remix as it stands right now.
the best for me is AOSPA i test it working evry think only proximity sensor problem on All MM
http://get.aospa.co/official/togari

Why is the battery life on MM much better than Nougat?

Hello!
I have tried several Nougat ROMs but none of them provide battery life as good as Marshmallow ROMs.
I have directly compare Lineage 13 versus Lineage 14.1 with the same apps installed and similar usage and I always manage to get about 2hrs of screen on time longer with Lineage 13.
I am curious to know why 13 has a better battery life than 14.1. Is it because Nougat is more demanding? Maybe it has more processes running than 13?
I guess so..
By the way, which LOS 13 version did you use mate?
hilmanefef said:
I guess so..
By the way, which LOS 13 version did you use mate?
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I've been using the Lineage 13 by gismoZ (https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/development/rom-lineageos-13-0-t3533744) together with Agni kernel.
I was really expecting some comments from developers. Maybe developers that have worked with Lineage 13 and 14 have a good idea about why the battery life is longer on MM.
To be honest I think nobody cares. Its the development progress. They don't compare that much against old roms. In many points mm ROM is way better then current nougat ROMs but nobody cares. E.g. I miss the system profiles toggle sinced I switched to RR nougat ROMs. Live display or Night mode bugs and multiple names for the same setting. Is there even a MM ROM with recent security patches?
h0LLe said:
To be honest I think nobody cares. Its the development progress. They don't compare that much against old roms. In many points mm ROM is way better then current nougat ROMs but nobody cares. E.g. I miss the system profiles toggle sinced I switched to RR nougat ROMs. Live display or Night mode bugs and multiple names for the same setting. Is there even a MM ROM with recent security patches?
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Lineage 13 by gismoZ has the security patch update 05/05/2017 and the battery life is awesome!
mura20 said:
Lineage 13 by gismoZ has the security patch update 05/05/2017 and the battery life is awesome!
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mhhhhhh i cant use lineageOS ... it lacks a lot of features and customizations which i like from RR
Like what? Maybe you can augment it with Xposed etc.
Okay, here's my two cents
Nougat should give you better battery life (technically) since it has all the doze implementations and other things.
Theoretically, it should also give you better performance (which it does) - Nougat performs way better for me.
What you're forgetting is - Nougat (Or LOS 14.1) is still in development so a code change here or there could potentially affect battery life. They're still trying to get a lot of things to work.
LOS 13 - which is derived from CM13 already had a stable release thanks to work done by the guys at CM. Its fast and has great battery backup. Give LOS 14.1 some time and it should be just fine.
I hope this answered your questions.
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mindtrappergr said:
Like what? Maybe you can augment it with Xposed etc.
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Xposed isn't here for Nougat yet
I know but he was quoting a message referencing Lineage 13, so Marshmallow.

Best Non-EUI based rom? (ie most stable)

Hello everyone!
I've been on smallEUI for a while, and I've decided that it's not worth it to keep anymore. SOT is inconsistent, there are small bugs here and there, and some major that begin to appear after a while.
I've been looking at Mokee and Ressurection Remix (sadly, author has stopped development of a buggy nougat version and moved to oreo)
I'm not looking for spectacular SOT that will blow me away. 4-5 hours is enough for me.
Stability is a huge must for me, i use my phone everyday and I need to be able to depend on it. EUI ROMs have aggressive RAM management (I have the 6gb RAM version and EUI treats it as if I only have 2gb, removing apps from RAM like my launcher). I need basic features like VoLTE and Bluetooth to work without fail.
I don't really care about safetynet, so I'm fine without that.
EDIT: I'm a fool, I said OmniROM instead of Slim. Sorry about that.
Thanks!
EDIT
Alright, I've actually installed Slim. Its superior to SmallEUI in almost every way.
Camera is almost as good as stock, no noticable difference.
Battery life is much more consistant (Expect 4 h 30m of SOT with mixed usage.)
No more crappy EUI RAM management (Its really bad, it treats 6GB of RAM like its 512MB of ram, killling any background processes, including your launcher, forcing frequent redraws)
Slim handles thermals MUCH BETTER than EUI. Way better!
Noticably faster UI, and smoother sustained performance under heavy load.
Nougat!
VoLTE works on T-Mobile US.
Fingerprint sensor works perfectly, and works faster in Slim than EUI, and more accuratly too!
Bug free so far.
And OTA updates!
This is hands down the most stable experience I've seen so far.
Better than Lineage, better than Mokee, and SmallEUI.
Go for this ROM, you won't regret it.
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Hello everyone!
I've been on smallEUI for a while, and I've decided that it's not worth it to keep anymore. SOT is inconsistent, there are small bugs here and there, and some major that begin to appear after a while.
I've been looking at Mokee and Ressurection Remix (sadly, author has stopped development of a buggy nougat version and moved to oreo)
I'm not looking for spectacular SOT that will blow me away. 4-5 hours is enough for me.
Stability is a huge must for me, i use my phone everyday and I need to be able to depend on it. EUI ROMs have aggressive RAM management (I have the 6gb RAM version and EUI treats it as if I only have 2gb, removing apps from RAM like my launcher). I need basic features like VoLTE and Bluetooth to work without fail.
I don't really care about safetynet, so I'm fine without that.
Thanks!
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Hi I'm currently using MOKEE and it's actually pretty stable. I haven't found any bugs at all but I'm not sure if VoLTE works and if you download it there will be almost everyday update but you don't have to download them because they don't change anything for our device
LameMonster82 said:
Hi I'm currently using MOKEE and it's actually pretty stable. I haven't found any bugs at all but I'm not sure if VoLTE works and if you download it there will be almost everyday update but you don't have to download them because they don't change anything for our device
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Thanks!
If I were to switch to Mokee, should I download the stable version?
The nightlies seem to be auto compiled and they look really unstable.
EDIT: Also, how is SOT?
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Thanks!
If I were to switch to Mokee, should I download the stable version?
The nightlies seem to be auto compiled and they look really unstable.
EDIT: Also, how is SOT?
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It's recommend to download the stable and the nighties are almost the same so don't worry downloading them.
Also I'm not sure what do you mean by SOT.
LameMonster82 said:
It's recommend to download the stable and the nighties are almost the same so don't worry downloading them.
Also I'm not sure what do you mean by SOT.
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You have never heard of the term?
I'm just kind of surprised. It means "screen on time".
The_Rusty_Geek said:
You have never heard of the term?
I'm just kind of surprised. It means "screen on time".
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I just haven't come across it but I don't have any problem SOT but I'm not a lot on my phone so I can't say a lot.
I’m in a similar position as you are. Using LOS 14. It’s been really stable. Best ROM i’ve used so far for the Le max 2. Small eui was a buggy mess when I used it. RR was good at first, but more bugs made me switch. Happily using LOS as a daily driver now.
mkerr said:
I’m in a similar position as you are. Using LOS 14. It’s been really stable. Best ROM i’ve used so far for the Le max 2. Small eui was a buggy mess when I used it. RR was good at first, but more bugs made me switch. Happily using LOS as a daily driver now.
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How is Lineage os in general?
Does gps work fine?
Fingerprint scanner can be fixed easily with a firmware update, so I don't mind that.
How is SOT?
Does camera quality match EUI?
Thanks!
Los if probably my favourite flavour android. RR has more options, though seems slower and more prone to issues (in my experience).
Camera is great. I've installed the Google hdr released camera app though, it's excellent.
Not too sure about sot sorry. Phone is usually around 20% when I finish the day. That's from 6am till say 10pm. I'd say average use for anyone that's on XDA.
This phone has never had good battery for me, except for small eui. But that was at the expense of an unusable rom with no SMS or push notifications working.
Finger print works perfectly.
Heyyo, for most stable? I'd say OmniROM 7 or LineageOS 14.1. They tend to not get the newest changes right away which is good for stability.
OmniROM is unique in the sense that it actually gets certified official builds signed by Google so they do come with SafetyNet Certification. It's the only custom ROM for the LeEco Le Max 2 that gets that.
Hopefully once GalacticSryder receives his Le Max 2 he can get his Mach LeEco kernel working for it and get official signed builds of Paranoid Android as that is the only other ROM that I know of that gets Google signed builds. Tbh I'm really stoked for this as I failed to port his Mach LeEco kernel haha.
Oh, if you plan on using MultiROM? OmniROM play store certification only works if you install it as the internal ROM and not secondary ROM as it mounts the system as writeable. You'd then need to do Magisk plus Universal SafetyNet fix module to spoof the Play Store.
The only downside to OmniROM is Andr68rus has moved onto Oreo development so it probably won't get Le Max 2 specific upgrades but thus far from my testing all Le Max 2 bugs have been squashed much like LineageOS 14.1.
If you want better screen on time with OmniROM or LOS? You can always root with Magisk and then install the AKT Profiles App and use something like Project X.A.N.A. balanced or battery.
If screen on time is your goal though? Slimroms I'd say currently has the best balance of screen on time and performance.
Anywho? Lots to choose from and there isn't really a wrong answer except for say the AOKP or other discontinued ROMs.
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Thanks for the detailed reply!
Sorry for the late reply.
So, I'm deciding between Lineage and Omnirom right now. Are there are basic features that differ between the two ROMs? Like included customization options or small tweaks that give the ROM it's unique personality?
It's amazing to see that a relatively not that known device has such a large and dedicated community to support it even when the company is going down under.
Thanks!
The_Rusty_Geek said:
Thanks for the detailed reply!
Sorry for the late reply.
So, I'm deciding between Lineage and Omnirom right now. Are there are basic features that differ between the two ROMs? Like included customization options or small tweaks that give the ROM it's unique personality?
It's amazing to see that a relatively not that known device has such a large and dedicated community to support it even when the company is going down under.
Thanks!
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LineageOS has weekly build updates so it does still receive the Google Monthly Security updates which is nice. It also has a lot more customization options than OmniROM
OmniROM as I mentioned is the only custom ROM for the Le Max 2 with official SafetyNet certification as a main feature. I've also noticed because of it that it's the only ROM I know of where fingerprint unlocking works with stuff like my RBC banking app.
OmniROM tends to not get as many flashy features as LineageOS but it has a few unique ones built into it such as OmniSwitch which is an alternative to the recent apps screen where it slides a small panel from the side of the screen and has the same functionality as recent apps but without the need of exiting your current app.
There's also their open source clock app as another example.
For Le Max 2 specifics? OmniROM has Dolby Atmos built into it for better sound quality and also the LeEco infrared app for using the IR blaster built into this phone so both work out of the box without the need of flashing Magisk Modules or anything like that.
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Thank you!
I will be installing Lineage OS and try it out!
Actually pulled a switcharoo at the last moment. I decided to go with Slim instead of Lineage because Lineage doesn't have VoLTE, and users report various problems with Lineage.
If anyone here is deciding on what to install, go for Slim.
Safetynet+Magisk passes safteynet, and everything is very fast.
UI and interface is really smooth, phone tempratures are much better than stock EUI, and SmallEUI
If gaming performance is your thing, expect a 20-30% increase in FPS than EUI based ROMS.
Battery life is a bit worse than EUI, but its consistent. In SmallEUI SOT would vary from almost 6 hours to as little as 1 hour and 30 minutes. Slim has a consistant 4 hour 30 min with mixed usage (Reddit, Gaming, and YouTube).
And best of all, no more annoying EUI RAM management! I have 6GB of RAM in my phone! Stop treating it like its 512MB and killing all background apps! It even killed Nova Launcher occasionally!
Slim is amazing. Simply amazing. I'm glad I made the switch now, and not later. I love it.
EDIT: I'm a fool, I said Omni instead of Slim. Sorry about that everyone.
Yep, tried them all and Omni's the best. Was worried that I'd miss functionality from EUI but everything actually works better. There's no reason at all to stick with stock roms. Do you know does Vulkan work with Omni?

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