Has anyone been able to port Google's HDR+ algorithm on other phones, i.e. the G5?
In the end it's only a software processing and on my wife's Nexus 5X it works damn good, mostly putting my G5 to shame...
Did anyone successfully reverse-engineered it to port it on more camera hardwares??
Thanks.
This is the closest you will get
http://chromloop.com/
Unfortunately the zero shutter lag requires Android 7.1 and HDR+ is also disabled
lolmensch said:
This is the closest you will get
http://chromloop.com/
Unfortunately the zero shutter lag requires Android 7.1 and HDR+ is also disabled
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Thank you for the tip.
Is there a particular reason why HDR+ shouldn't be working for other cameras too? Isn't it just a software algorithm based on taking multiple pictures in rapid succession?
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Thank you for the tip.
Is there a particular reason why HDR+ shouldn't be working for other cameras too? Isn't it just a software algorithm based on taking multiple pictures in rapid succession?
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np mate.
it is actually rather complicated. you should probably be able to do hdr on our phones by idk maybe change build prop or similiar stuff. maybe even some libs are needed. it seems though that the 5x and 6p hdr+ isnt the real deal.
if you are more interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/57ukba/psa_google_camera_42_mod_on_5x6p_literary_bring/
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even hw accelerated hdr+ should work on our phones but we are missing people wanting/being able to port it I'd say (as well as 7.1.1 for all features)
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np mate.
it is actually rather complicated. you should probably be able to do hdr on our phones by idk maybe change build prop or similiar stuff. maybe even some libs are needed. it seems though that the 5x and 6p hdr+ isnt the real deal.
if you are more interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/57ukba/psa_google_camera_42_mod_on_5x6p_literary_bring/
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even hw accelerated hdr+ should work on our phones but we are missing people wanting/being able to port it I'd say (as well as 7.1.1 for all features)
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Interesting one. In fact I tried this Camera NX both on my G5 and on the Nexus 5X of my wife and already uninstalled in both...
On the G5 it does absolutely nothing.
On the 5X it is supposed to use HDR+ with ZSL, but actually doesn't. The photos come out much worse than with the stock camera. I don't understand why people claim it works...
I wish someone could make the Pixel's HDR+ work on the Snapdragon 820 and make it available for all smartphones using that chipset, which are quite many and nice ones.
The current HDR mode on the G5 is good for an alternative
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The current HDR mode on the G5 is good for an alternative
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It's crap, if you're not directly in perfectly lit room or area you'll get lag while it takes the three shots
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It's crap, if you're not directly in perfectly lit room or area you'll get lag while it takes the three shots
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... and everything blurry.
This camera may even be very good hardware, but the software makes it unusable in most situations where everything isn't very still. A bit disappointing.
Hi all -- A few weeks ago, I bought a Moto Z to play with Daydream, and one of the first things I noticed was that Google's HDR+ feature that I had used for so long on my Nexus 6 was not available. It didn't even occur to me that this feature was proprietary to Nexus devices, so I got to work right away trying to unlock access to HDR+ on my Moto Z as I firmly believe that HDR+ is still the gold standard in computational image blending for Android devices.
It turns out that tricking non-Nexus devices into using HDR+ is not that hard. I grabbed a copy of Camera NX from chromloop.com, decompiled using apktool, and tweaked the smali code in the DeviceHelper file to ensure that the function isNexus6P() always returns a value of true, regardless of device (the corresponding line can be edited to read "const v0, 1"). I'll post a modified APK from my development machine in just a moment...
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Hi all -- A few weeks ago, I bought a Moto Z to play with Daydream, and one of the first things I noticed was that Google's HDR+ feature that I had used for so long on my Nexus 6 was not available. It didn't even occur to me that this feature was proprietary to Nexus devices, so I got to work right away trying to unlock access to HDR+ on my Moto Z as I firmly believe that HDR+ is still the gold standard in computational image blending for Android devices.
It turns out that tricking non-Nexus devices into using HDR+ is not that hard. I grabbed a copy of Camera NX from chromloop.com, decompiled using apktool, and tweaked the smali code in the DeviceHelper file to ensure that the function isNexus6P() always returns a value of true, regardless of device (the corresponding line can be edited to read "const v0, 1"). I'll post a modified APK from my development machine in just a moment...
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This sounds great. Would be very appreciative if you posted it.
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Hi all -- A few weeks ago, I bought a Moto Z to play with Daydream, and one of the first things I noticed was that Google's HDR+ feature that I had used for so long on my Nexus 6 was not available. It didn't even occur to me that this feature was proprietary to Nexus devices, so I got to work right away trying to unlock access to HDR+ on my Moto Z as I firmly believe that HDR+ is still the gold standard in computational image blending for Android devices.
It turns out that tricking non-Nexus devices into using HDR+ is not that hard. I grabbed a copy of Camera NX from chromloop.com, decompiled using apktool, and tweaked the smali code in the DeviceHelper file to ensure that the function isNexus6P() always returns a value of true, regardless of device (the corresponding line can be edited to read "const v0, 1"). I'll post a modified APK from my development machine in just a moment...
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sounds great. wait for your good news
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Hi all -- A few weeks ago, I bought a Moto Z to play with Daydream, and one of the first things I noticed was that Google's HDR+ feature that I had used for so long on my Nexus 6 was not available. It didn't even occur to me that this feature was proprietary to Nexus devices, so I got to work right away trying to unlock access to HDR+ on my Moto Z as I firmly believe that HDR+ is still the gold standard in computational image blending for Android devices.
It turns out that tricking non-Nexus devices into using HDR+ is not that hard. I grabbed a copy of Camera NX from chromloop.com, decompiled using apktool, and tweaked the smali code in the DeviceHelper file to ensure that the function isNexus6P() always returns a value of true, regardless of device (the corresponding line can be edited to read "const v0, 1"). I'll post a modified APK from my development machine in just a moment...
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Please post!! Much appreciated
Apologies for the delay -- I'm working up to my total of 10 posts so that I can share the file with you all. Give me just a few minutes (and forgive this short post that is helping me reach 10!)...
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Okay, just worked myself up past ten posts so that I can share a link with you all: http://www.mediafire.com/file/l8num4lyw05vybt/Camera4-hdrplus.apk
I hope that this works as well for enabling HDR+ on the G5 as it does on my Moto Z! Please let me know how it goes when you try it.
I had install the apps and it had HDR+ option in it
but once I take the photo with HDR+ auto or HDR+ on , the photo come out like it blur and just 1.XX MB
and if i take the photo with HDR+ Off , the photo will just back to normal
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Apologies for the delay -- I'm working up to my total of 10 posts so that I can share the file with you all. Give me just a few minutes (and forgive this short post that is helping me reach 10!)...
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Okay, just worked myself up past ten posts so that I can share a link with you all: http://www.mediafire.com/file/l8num4lyw05vybt/Camera4-hdrplus.apk
I hope that this works as well for enabling HDR+ on the G5 as it does on my Moto Z! Please let me know how it goes when you try it.
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This is what I got all on default settings (HDR + with highest res)
Seems low res and blurry. Thanks for attempting this! Hope you get it
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This is what I got all on default settings (HDR + with highest res)
Seems low res and blurry. Thanks for attempting this! Hope you get it
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Thanks so much for sharing the sample images -- bummer that this doesn't seem to be working yet on your device. Just to confirm, are you indeed using a G5? I didn't see any device specs in the photo metadata. I would also be curious to hear what OS version you're running on your device. HDR+ support seems to be based upon how complete a device's access to the camera2 API is, and it is clear that completeness of support for this API varies considerably across devices and OS versions. Guess I just got lucky that my Moto Z with 7.0 supports all of the needed API calls! Maybe there is still hope for modifying a different version of the camera app to support the G5.
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Thanks so much for sharing the sample images -- bummer that this doesn't seem to be working yet on your device. Just to confirm, are you indeed using a G5? I didn't see any device specs in the photo metadata. I would also be curious to hear what OS version you're running on your device. HDR+ support seems to be based upon how complete a device's access to the camera2 API is, and it is clear that completeness of support for this API varies considerably across devices and OS versions. Guess I just got lucky that my Moto Z with 7.0 supports all of the needed API calls! Maybe there is still hope for modifying a different version of the camera app to support the G5.
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I have the same results. H830 T-Mobile G5 on 7.0.
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Thanks so much for sharing the sample images -- bummer that this doesn't seem to be working yet on your device. Just to confirm, are you indeed using a G5? I didn't see any device specs in the photo metadata. I would also be curious to hear what OS version you're running on your device. HDR+ support seems to be based upon how complete a device's access to the camera2 API is, and it is clear that completeness of support for this API varies considerably across devices and OS versions. Guess I just got lucky that my Moto Z with 7.0 supports all of the needed API calls! Maybe there is still hope for modifying a different version of the camera app to support the G5.
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Hey bud, I'm in on H831 on 7.0. Hopefully you can work some magic and get it working. Best of luck !
H850 with 7.0 stock rooted same results. It is odd as it is basically the same hardware besides the imaging sensor. I have the impression that it refocuses after the first picture for HDR leaving it blurry after stitching together
Huh. I tried it out on the V20 and same blurry result. The 6p uses an IMX377 while the Pixel uses an IMX 378. The G5 uses an IMX234 and the V20 uses an IMX298. I wonder if the sensors in use have anything to do with it, too?
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Hey guys, I'm returning from a recent trip to iPhoneland and I'm looking for the camera app that's closest to keeping up with the iPhone's camera.
I'm running cm11 and so far the best I've found is this one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540030
This one takes a lot better pictures than the stock cm or the google camera from the play store, but it still lags behind the iPhone.
it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
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it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
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Alright that's what I was kind of afraid of. I know that there is a limit to how good the camera is going to be but I was hoping I hadn't found it yet. There is a significant variation between the different camera apps I have tried. It's too bad we can't use the camera to its full potential on aosp based roms.
I would strongly disagree with what 60nine just said, but that's just me. The main issue is the stock "camera" app is kinda crappy and does way too much processing on the image data from the sensor. It's not the best image sensor that's ever been made, no, of course not, but it is quite a nice one especially with the OIS as part of the hardware.
Having said that, I personally use Mi2raw nowadays which allows me to capture pure raw image data from the G2 sensor and dumps it as a DNG (Adobe Digital Negative) file which I then transfer over to my laptop for editing/post processing using Photoshop.
If you want some examples of what the G2's camera is capable of, look here:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/pool/
You can find more info about Mi2raw (available on the Google Play Market, it's free) in the main thread for it and yes there's more pics too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/app-mi2raw-enables-capturing-real-raw-t2837089
Again, we're not dealing with the best image sensor ever made but I've been damned happy with the results I've been getting with my G2 because of Mi2raw (I just got this G2 like 3 weeks ago).
As far as other apps, I use Aviary (it was free a few days ago, with every single filter they had for free too so I grabbed it all and backed it up safely), PerfectlyClear which gave away their Android app for free last week (it's not too bad, actually), and Photoshop Express (which can load the DNG files directly on the G2 directly from Mi2raw for quick viewing).
There's also XCam LG which adds a lot of functionality to the G2 including giving it 4K video recording capability (just make sure to read the details in the thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548974
XCam LG has a settings app to tweak it further located on the Play Market as well, it's worth the price if you need it.
For me personally I just use Mi2raw for most every picture I snap these days then do editing/PP work when I get back home, it's what works best for me at this time.
Hope this helps...
Try Cymera. It's free and has good editing tools. Drawbacks are that it takes a bit to load and is not too stable. It's the only camera app that focuses correctly and has a proper white balance!!!! The resolution is small 1 Megapixel?, but the image is sharper and better than any 13megapixel shot from other camera apps or stock.
Otherwise just take the stock LG camera app as a daily driver.
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I would strongly disagree with what 60nine just said, but that's just me. The main issue is the stock "camera" app is kinda crappy and does way too much processing on the image data from the sensor. It's not the best image sensor that's ever been made, no, of course not, but it is quite a nice one especially with the OIS as part of the hardware.
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why would you disagree if its known that iPhone and Nokia use way better sensor and lenses? (and i'm not an iphone fanboy, far from that )
i didn't say that LG hardware is crap - i'm just saying that it's no match to those two... or to say it better - "close but no cigar"
Nokia & iPhone give much better low light images than LG (partly due to better sensor, partly due to smaller f-stop lens number which lets more light onto the sensor)
for comparison
LG G2 has F/2.4 lens < iphone/nokia use F/2.2 lens (smaller the f-stop, more light comes in)
Having said that, I personally use Mi2raw nowadays which allows me to capture pure raw image data from the G2 sensor and dumps it as a DNG (Adobe Digital Negative) file which I then transfer over to my laptop for editing/post processing using Photoshop.
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i didn't mention mi2raw app on purpose because it's not for everyone... and since i'm a photo hobbyist and DSLR owner, it gives me a bit of real camera world in a mobile device...
and what i like about mi2raw (besides its raw capability) is that the photos taken with that app don't look "painted" or "blurred" because of too much noise reduction that other camera apps produce
mi2raw would be too complicated to use for an average user... but hey - it's free, and everyone can try it and see
everything else you wrote - i second...
+ Snapseed is an image app worth mentioning especially with its ambiance setting that gives an image a nice "bump" in every way if it's used correctly...
personally i'm currently "stuck" with mi2raw, xdabbeb's XCam (because of those extra options you mentioned) and google camera (because it's the best for panorama/sphere images)
cheers...
In my opinion the best camera so far has been the one with CloudyG3 ROM
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Thanks for the Mi2RAW suggestion, I'll check that out. I work with raws from my dslr but I don't know how badly I really need to have all my phone pictures shot as raw. I'll see how it goes
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In my opinion the best camera so far has been the one with CloudyG3 ROM
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which is basically a stock cam app that uses xdabbeb's advanced binaries (so it's pretty much the same as XCam, but Xcam gets updated by xdabbeb every now and then)
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Thanks for the Mi2RAW suggestion, I'll check that out. I work with raws from my dslr but I don't know how badly I really need to have all my phone pictures shot as raw. I'll see how it goes
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sometimes you just want that bit of extra image customization that raw offers
since you have dslr as well, you know what i'm on about
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which is basically a stock cam app that uses xdabbeb's advanced binaries (so it's pretty much the same as XCam, but Xcam gets updated by xdabbeb every now and then)
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sometimes you just want that bit of extra image customization that raw offers
since you have dslr as well, you know what i'm on about
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I did not know that thanks
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"a Better Camera" app is what I use on non stock Roms and it's very good. LG camera hardware is not that good? You make me laugh... Can IPhone camera record 4k?Does it have ois?
The only thing that iPhone is better at is the image processing. That's it. (period).
I use the G2's stock camera app on AICP. It's okay, but the images look washed out compared to my Optimus G.
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it's not about the camera app, it's about the hardware...
No camera app on LG G2 can match iPhone and/or Nokia just because of the camera hardware (sensor, lens,...) which is not that good on LG
To explore full benefits of LG camera hardware, you'll have to move to one of stock based roms and then try i.e. Xdabbeb camera...
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Bulsh*t of the month/year? :fingers-crossed: Only way to reveal the potencial of any and I mean ANY camera HW is to shoot RAW only! You can say Lg stock camera is bad and I will agree but not talk about HW whenn you didnt see pure RAW data. Just look at the samples I shot with the best android camera for photo enthusiasts: Mi2raw camera which is capable of capturing pure DNG files without freaky Lg jpeg engine, which is IMHO the worst I ever seen. I took indoor photos on ISO400-800 so dont blame the small sensor of more noise, no such a small sensor will perform any better. Still great results in todays mobile photography. Even Xdabbed camera which is great contribution cannot match results from RAW data and personal approach for photography. One minute for one photo and the results are uncomparable.
Anyone tried porting the Pixelmaster camera app from the various Asus Zenfones? It takes really incredible low light photos by reducing resolution to 2 megapixels and it is awesome (the only reason I fell envious of my brother's otherwise mediocre zenfone 5). Check here too, someone had plans of porting but not sure what happened to him since... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712403
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Anyone tried porting the Pixelmaster camera app from the various Asus Zenfones? It takes really incredible low light photos by reducing resolution to 2 megapixels and it is awesome (the only reason I fell envious of my brother's otherwise mediocre zenfone 5). Check here too, someone had plans of porting but not sure what happened to him since... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712403
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Why should I want 2Mpx photos from 13Mpx camera? From 13Mox->2Mpx I will do awesome photos too! 2Mpx=fullHD , 2160p=4K got it? Rather show us those amazing photos
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Why should I want 2Mpx photos from 13Mpx camera? From 13Mox->2Mpx I will do awesome photos too! 2Mpx=fullHD , 2160p=4K got it? Rather show us those amazing photos
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again. it takes normal pics at full resolution, then there is a night mode which takes very very nice pics in dark situations at full resolution (better than almost any other phone out there) and then there is a special night mode that reduces pic resolution to 2 megapixels, but boy those night pics are the best I have ever seen.... Check this for example. and no worries about zenfone 5 camera being 8 megapixels. the zenfone 6 has 13 and same software...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_TPqwDYStI
so you still live in a world where more megapixels mean better images?
i.e. see why HTC went for lower mpx in its flagship devices...
about my "bullsh*t of the year"... do some reading and know some basics of the digital photography...
i never said that LG G2 camera is bad, read my post again & read hardware tech specs of the other devices...
i like the mi2raw app very much (see my posts there in the app thread) - it's the best thing that happened to this device considering the camera/photo...
and i think LG G2 camera hardware can do much more - especially on the strange "painted like" image compression effect which i hate so much...
i'd say - LG G2 is close, but no cigar
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Bulsh*t of the month/year? :fingers-crossed: Only way to reveal the potencial of any and I mean ANY camera HW is to shoot RAW only! You can say Lg stock camera is bad and I will agree but not talk about HW whenn you didnt see pure RAW data. Just look at the samples I shot with the best android camera for photo enthusiasts: Mi2raw camera which is capable of capturing pure DNG files without freaky Lg jpeg engine, which is IMHO the worst I ever seen. I took indoor photos on ISO400-800 so dont blame the small sensor of more noise, no such a small sensor will perform any better. Still great results in todays mobile photography. Even Xdabbed camera which is great contribution cannot match results from RAW data and personal approach for photography. One minute for one photo and the results are uncomparable.
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Because of RAW the G2 is one of the top android cameras, that is true. However, the flagship Lumia devices also shoot RAW.
Yes I know, iphone can shoot RAW too, so android is behind somehow...
60nine: Ive read everything you've written, thats why I had to react. I know a lot about photography, HW a more, so Im OK. Thanks. And about pixels, even 8Mpx iphone camera is worse than 16Mpx SGN4 camera so give me a break...HTCs cameras are the worst from the biggest flagship manufacturers. HTCs cameras lags of detail and lost every shootout with competition. And I will tell you something, you will need at least 2160p for viewing on upcoming 4K display devices...so now the pixels matters. I know that more pixels suffers from dynamic range and more noise, but it will be hidden in more Mpx photo with good postprocess. So if you find comparison between IP6 and LG G2 in RAW at same settings and same scene and IP6 will be better, youll have my respect and appologies.
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i won't bother answering to a person who thinks more mpx means better images (on a same sized sensor), so cheers...
raw is not for an average users anyway
60fps works see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...fps-video-recording-libchanger-t3424621/page3
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Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google as I don't have a camera 2 device I'm attaching a test apk set to 120fps I wanna see if its working if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p from that we could set fps range to 60,60
Two part test if preview running at 120fps and if recording working
Log cat the test also if any error occurs
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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Done basically install the apk see if it works or not
You should change "60p" to "60 fps". I think you're confusing vertical resolution with fps.
Regardless, I'm glad we're talking about this. 30 fps video is dumb and objectively much worse than 60 fps. Google's priorities here are totally wrong.
Btw, video preview is running at around 5-10 fps, and app FCs when you start recording. That's on a non-rooted 6.0.1.
I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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You are mistaken, google doesn't care for it either.
Which, reading their reply, is total BS.
Theyre focusing on making it stable? They've had more than enough time to do that, it's plenty stable - given their resources and the fact that they designed it on their own platform. Not to mention the existence of 120/240 fps making it painfully obvious that this is either laziness or an oversight (neither are excusable) for not having included a 60fps option, my S5 had that for gods sake, a phone that launched in April of '14 had this ability. Along with each successor to the Galaxy line, iphones, LG, I cant think of a flagship that can't do it?
Maybe I'm (we're?) in the minority in believing that it's pathetic to have a phone with the capabilities this one does, but lacks a function that very few - if any - new phones also lack that would really make the videos taken on the device a lot better. I'ts getting frustrating that Google, and the Nexus brand, are supposed to be top of the line and cutting edge - for the most part - but have, seemingly on purpose, chosen to exclude some of the key desirable components that customers want. Wireless charging (i know it was left out to make it thinner) but still... and these were two things I really hoped for, I think the 6P was a step in the wrong direction. Huawei really treated me like **** when they sent me the wrong 6P (the bastard model that excluded band 10 for some dumb reason) and refused to allow me to exchange or return it no matter what.
If Huawei makes the 2016 Nexus, I will gladly wash my hands of it, there's no way that company will ever get my business again.
I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
I've pushed modified blob and app source to git @ https://github.com/defcomk/c2Vid as stated I have no camera 2 device so I go by logcats .
Anyway the source is there added some log lines as from the crash I could not see what exactly caused the crash
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I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
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From the leaked Qualcomm camera source code it looks like 60fps comes part of most libs and oems remove them for what reason I dunno but if you can find a device with same sensor and 60fps all that is needed is the registers for timmings and clocks and res entry but the later can be calculated.
There is hope for LG G5/One Plus 3/Mi5
HTC I tried but could only get it to 40fps in camera 1 mode Camera 2 mode the target fps range stuff maxed out at 30 perhaps when ae turned off in full manual it will work .in Camera 1 mode its another mess by htc where they broke qualcom video-hfr parameter in favour of their own video-mode which seems like a copy paste job from htc one m9 half then they broke it.
I patched hal as far as to allow fps range up to 120fps but the code that switches between the different sensor out put res mode was crippled.
I dunno if Camera2 was intended to even support 60p the only method I see is using HighSpeedCapture mode which only recognizes >=120 .
So in the blob pushed to git 1080p is set to max fps of 120 so it shows up in The high-speed mode .
In the root of the repo is text file showing imx377 configs
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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I mean most people complain about slow start times of the camera on tge n6p anyway so I'd hate to see it slowed even further. While Samsung isn't exactly the best developers, they have a massive amount of devs I'm sure. But I still agree. If they can do it, Google and others should be able to also.
Just to clarify, my dislike for Huawei stems far beyond this issue. I will link to the thread (if anyone wants it) where I outline the month-long ordeal where they constantly lied to me about having a tech call me back, refunding my purchase, allowing me to return my 128GB 6P - all because they sent me the A2 style 6P, not the A1 style which everyone else on this continent got, and I purchased 4 other identical 6Ps in that same order, but one was a bastard model that lacked band 10, a band that is necessary for it to work for me on USCC (works on everyone else though) - Google NEVER sold the A2 style, only the A1 (which included band 10) and works perfectly fine. Of the 4 phones purchased, 3 were the A1 style, 1 was the A2 style, and this was never an option when ordered since...there was never more than 1 style that was publically known. They gave me a phone with missing hardware, refused to replace/return/rectify the situation in any form.
Anyway, THATS why I will never do business with them again. Their CS is absolute bull**** and they lie to their customers when they have legitimate issues that THEY caused.
The 60fps issue is on Google, it would be sweet to have, and I can't see any reasonable logic to not including it with the app on the phone? Thats all.
Cleaned up the bickering, let's all play nicely together please.
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defcomg said:
Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google,
as I don't have a camera 2 device to test I'm attaching a test apk below
FPS is set 120fps I wanna see if its working , if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p.
With 120fps 1080p we could set fps range to 60,60 allowing 60p video.
This is a Two part test .
A) if preview running at 120fps
B)if video recording is working
Logcat the test if any error occurs
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CyberZeus_Viva said:
A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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does it modify the camera app? no
does it replace the camera app? also, no
does it introduce a new fps mode? yes
did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps? It's more complicated than that, and OP is still working things out.
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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-That app was created for another device so the lag is expected and Yes defcomk is creating a software mod and will enable the FPS we deserve. some good progress but nothing solid yet. (patience)
-This won't bork your camera lol
-Regarding L Camera, it was capable but was more of a test being that it got the job done on the Nexus 5 but with lot's of sacrifices and such. hence the reason it was more of a way of just testing camera 2 api. The IMX377 sensor on our phone is more than capable but defcomk is still deep in testing.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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well, it does this for me too which is unfortunate.
I don't really understand what's the problem? Can't someone just make a camera app that records at 120fps and just saves one frame and throws away the other? There you go 60fps.
Or you could edit the video yourself and remove every second frame?
Hey guys, I just ordered the phone today and it'll be arriving in not more than a month or so.
I'm curious if Camera quality really is different depending on the ROM because of the libs, framework or IDK, enlighten me.
Question is in the title anyway, thank you!
Google camera HDR+ app on nougat roms. Pretty good HDR pics and great in low light.
someone took the app from google phones and made it usable with phones with snapdragon 820
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/
Heyyo, eh camera quality is kinda subjective... For me? I do prefer Nougat ROMs with the modified google camera as mentioned before.
There is one downside to Nougat ROMs though and that's the camera flash... Sadly the way LeEco implemented the flash via I2C doesn't work well with current nougat ROMs thus it isn't perfectly synched with the camera. So for dark photos with flash? Marshmallow ROMs are still better in that condition. I rarely take photos with flash so I'm not too concerned but just gonna mention it so you know too
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Google camera HDR+ app on nougat roms. Pretty good HDR pics and great in low light.
someone took the app from google phones and made it usable with phones with snapdragon 820
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/
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thanks for posting this, first time i've seen it.
greatly apprecaited.
I prefer the marshmallow baseds like smalleui because you can use HDR on front camera (makes a big difference at night).
DB_Gohan said:
Google camera HDR+ app on nougat roms. Pretty good HDR pics and great in low light.
someone took the app from google phones and made it usable with phones with snapdragon 820
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/
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Hello. So is it better or about the same quality with Camera on marshmallow? Thank you!
doru25 said:
I prefer the marshmallow baseds like smalleui because you can use HDR on front camera (makes a big difference at night).
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Heyyo, eh camera quality is kinda subjective... For me? I do prefer Nougat ROMs with the modified google camera as mentioned before.
There is one downside to Nougat ROMs though and that's the camera flash... Sadly the way LeEco implemented the flash via I2C doesn't work well with current nougat ROMs thus it isn't perfectly synched with the camera. So for dark photos with flash? Marshmallow ROMs are still better in that condition. I rarely take photos with flash so I'm not too concerned but just gonna mention it so you know too
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Hello. Have you tried Google Camera ? (Nougat) Would like to know which one's better
Jabbzz said:
Hello. Have you tried Google Camera ? (Nougat) Would like to know which one's better
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Here's a bunch of photos I took with the Google camera mod with HDR+ set to auto as it tends to work best on auto for a balanced shutter speed and quality.
https://goo.gl/photos/zsxYdUGLJGbkBRD28
So yeah, thus far Nougat with the modded google camera works darn good.
Here's the version of it I'm using
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120756004
Like I mentioned previously the only downside to Nougat camera quality is flash synchronization. It's not perfect as LeEco uses I2C and thus far the community developers sadly have not been able to mimic it in custom Nougat ROMs... Sadly LeEco will probably never release the source code for it...
If flash synchronization is extremely important to you? That would be the only reason I'd stick with a Marshmallow ROM.
ThE_MarD said:
Here's a bunch of photos I took with the Google camera mod with HDR+ set to auto as it tends to work best on auto for a balanced shutter speed and quality.
https://goo.gl/photos/zsxYdUGLJGbkBRD28
So yeah, thus far Nougat with the modded google camera works darn good.
Here's the version of it I'm using
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120756004
Like I mentioned previously the only downside to Nougat camera quality is flash synchronization. It's not perfect as LeEco uses I2C and thus far the community developers sadly have not been able to mimic it in custom Nougat ROMs... Sadly LeEco will probably never release the source code for it...
If flash synchronization is extremely important to you? That would be the only reason I'd stick with a Marshmallow ROM.
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Damn. Loving the quality of your pics dude. I don't use flash often so it's fine with me. Thanks for all these info and the link. Really helpful
The EUI versions still have a much superior focus but GCam has a incredible better quality on night photos. I swap betwen EUI and RR Nougat from time to time to test new versions for GCam.
Also on Nougat you can enable EIS on all cam apps
See my samples with GCam 3.8 mod without and with HDR+
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IMG_20171004_230622 by Rafael Maia, no Flickr
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The EUI versions still have a much superior focus but GCam has a incredible better quality on night photos. I swap betwen EUI and RR Nougat from time to time to test new versions for GCam.
Also on Nougat you can enable EIS on all cam apps
See my samples with GCam 3.8 mod without and with HDR+
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Awesome <3 Will be getting my phone next week
Only thing I think is missing is [email protected], camera otherwise is pretty good, you can use google camera for hdr+ or use any other camera2 api app
Using Lineage 14.1 and the camera is pretty good
nature boy said:
Only thing I think is missing is [email protected], camera otherwise is pretty good, you can use google camera for hdr+ or use any other camera2 api app
Using Lineage 14.1 and the camera is pretty good
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Do we have that on Official/Marshmallow based Custom ROMs? And do you have some apps that simulate [email protected] FPS?
AFAIK, no rom has 60 fps with 1080p, even the official MM roms.
In fact, I don't think you can record 60 fps in any resolution, even 720p and below. You do have slow-mo [email protected], looks a bit pixelated though.
P.S.: 4k and 1080p might have artefacts in official roms, noticed that when I got mine a week ago. It's a case of low video bitrate, if you bump up the bitrate (with 3rd party apps)- you can go all the way up to 100mb/s - there's no artefacts.
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AFAIK, no rom has 60 fps with 1080p, even the official MM roms.
In fact, I don't think you can record 60 fps in any resolution, even 720p and below. You do have slow-mo [email protected], looks a bit pixelated though.
P.S.: 4k and 1080p might have artefacts in official roms, noticed that when I got mine a week ago. It's a case of low video bitrate, if you bump up the bitrate (with 3rd party apps)- you can go all the way up to 100mb/s - there's no artefacts.
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I did a quick test with open camera and I don't see any difference between 50mbs and 100mbs but I keep it on 60~70mbs to be safe
LameMonster82 said:
I did a quick test with open camera and I don't see any difference between 50mbs and 100mbs but I keep it on 60~70mbs to be safe
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On the official MM roms, if you pointed the camera at the sky you could notice a lot of artefacts from the compression (low bitrate, around 20 mb/s). Bumping it up to 30 or 40 removed the artifacts
Hi,
Has anyone found a working Google Camera mod for Mate 20 Pro? Need HDR+ and Portrait.
I have been searching the the Mate 10 thread, but haven't found anything for Mate 20 Pro, guess due to the different processor and Android verison.
cheers,
yarmun
That would be soooooo great if some1 could make a working mod for it. The camera modules on the Mate 20 Pro are really capable, but the ****ty software screws up most of the pictures. It's a huge drawback it's not available in the U.S., but hopefully some is ultra dedicated on this topic
Oh yes we need this!
Selfies with my OP3 on gCam still way better than with the mate 20 pro.
This is not a One Plus phone. There is no reason to use the Gcam mod on any phone that has a good camera app. It's necessary to use the Gcam mod on One Plus phones because the software coding on One Plus phones is inept and literally the only way you can take decent pictures on a One Plus phone is to use the Gcam mod.
On phones by Huawei, Samsung, Xiaomi and even Oppo (the parent company of One Plus) the native camera apps take much better pictures than the Gcam Mod because they are coded for the hardware on their respective phone models. The Gcam mod is not and never can be regardless of how many settings you tweak.
I have owned Nexus and Pixel phones and the Gcam mod doesn't take Pixel quality photos on any non-Pixel phone. It just makes One Plus owners feel better about owning a $600 phone with thoroughly inept software coding.
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This is not a One Plus phone. There is no reason to use the Gcam mod on any phone that has a good camera app. It's necessary to use the Gcam mod on One Plus phones because the software coding on One Plus phones is inept and literally the only way you can take decent pictures on a One Plus phone is to use the Gcam mod.
On phones by Huawei, Samsung, Xiaomi and even Oppo (the parent company of One Plus) the native camera apps take much better pictures than the Gcam Mod because they are coded for the hardware on their respective phone models. The Gcam mod is not and never can be regardless of how many settings you tweak.
I have owned Nexus and Pixel phones and the Gcam mod doesn't take Pixel quality photos on any non-Pixel phone. It just makes One Plus owners feel better about owning a $600 phone with thoroughly inept software coding.
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Simply not true. I have an S8+. GCam mod takes way better photos.
Not even the best example here, but guess which one was shot using Samsung's camera app, and which GCam mod. Lighting aside, one shot captured way more details than the other. More or less same ISO (50-60).
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mLVT93ypdsNUfWdz5
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hQYHGot4ijxrdrVk7
Samsung's camera app is indeed smoother and faster at taking the shots tho. But I always switch to GCam when I'm capturing still life.
Itaintrite said:
Simply not true. I have an S8+. GCam mod takes way better photos.
Not even the best example here, but guess which one was shot using Samsung's camera app, and which GCam mod. Lighting aside, one shot captured way more details than the other. More or less same ISO (50-60).
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mLVT93ypdsNUfWdz5
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hQYHGot4ijxrdrVk7
Samsung's camera app is indeed smoother and faster at taking the shots tho. But I always switch to GCam when I'm capturing still life.
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If you say so. Samsung is known for having one of the best Android camera apps but I'm sure a ported GCam app that wasn't made for your phone takes much better pictures.
I owned a $200 Samsung J3 that took better pictures than the $600 OP5 & 5T which is why the GCam threads for One Plus phones have hundreds of posts.
GCam threads for phones like the Mate 20 Pro never attract more than a handful of posts because there is no reason to use a GCam mod.
The Mate 20 Pro launched a month and a half ago and yours is the first post I remember seeing about using the ported GCam app.
also waiting for this.
Gcam's HDR+, night sight, selfie, topshot on mate20pro would be insane!!
Me too would be great if someone could port it
Latest one by Arnova works but only for front camera and picture quality is bad like its not even using Google's software tweaks and just using the camera api.
Gcam required here too to eliminate the oil painting cartoon effect.
This is very necesary, for mode portrait. Thanks!!
just one question: doesn't gcam only use one lens?
Found a thread somewhere with people pointing out that some of the older Gcam versions actually work with the M20P. You can find them e.g. At Apkmirror (the linked one ist the one that actually works)
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-4-2-035-141213305-release/#downloads
Credit to those who found this first, I'm just reposting something others found out and can't recall where I found it.
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s3axel said:
Found a thread somewhere with people pointing out that some of the older Gcam versions actually work with the M20P. You can find them e.g. At Apkmirror (the linked one ist the one that actually works)
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-4-2-035-141213305-release/#downloads
Credit to those who found this first, I'm just reposting something others found out and can't recall where I found it.
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But they don't have portrait mode right? :/
It will be good to make gcam port for super wide angle like for LG G6 and G7.
Is there any HDR+ Gcam port for Huawei mate 20 pro? It honestly is the only feature I would need as apart from the image processing huawei's native camera app does everything pretty well (portrait mode for example)
HDR works really good on mp20.. try HDR mode..
Huawei should provide manual configuration options for HDR. I am not comfortable with AI. Another disappointment is that there is no option for dynamic control of ISO and brightness/saturation/contrast setting for video in pro mode. Huawei, please make everything configurable.
Itaintrite said:
Simply not true. I have an S8+. GCam mod takes way better photos.
Not even the best example here, but guess which one was shot using Samsung's camera app, and which GCam mod. Lighting aside, one shot captured way more details than the other. More or less same ISO (50-60).
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mLVT93ypdsNUfWdz5
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hQYHGot4ijxrdrVk7
Samsung's camera app is indeed smoother and faster at taking the shots tho. But I always switch to GCam when I'm capturing still life.
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It is true. The GCAM mods are awful and result in slow photo taking, scewed white balance. Google Pixel 3 is no where near as good as the Mate 20 Pro for photos or video and I have both. Still struggling to sell the Pixel as no one wants them.
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jizang said:
But they don't have portrait mode right? :/
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Why on earth would you want googles portrait mode? The edge detection is worse than a five year old's drawings.
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on earth would you want googles portrait mode? The edge detection is worse than a five year old's drawings.
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For some reason I can't get a Pic with bokeh effect on front camera I don't know why
any available Gcam for xperia1 III now?
Have you checked GCam Port Hub?
IDK why you bother looking for another camera while your phone's is already very great IMO.
FlandreKanade said:
any available Gcam for xperia1 III now?
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The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
Masterblop said:
The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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thx
Masterblop said:
The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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How can ı use this xml file with the app?
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How can ı use this xml file with the app?
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I have made a thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gcam-sony-xperia-1iii.4343691/
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I have made a thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gcam-sony-xperia-1iii.4343691/
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Thank you very much bro
Which one are you guys using?
New updated version: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/f/dl53/
Tried and working version: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1s_MGC.apk
Hello,
Is there any option to made the photo sphere working? Honestly I only try to have Gcam for this mode hehe.
Thank you for the apk
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
stiltzkin said:
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
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Photography pro and pretty much every xperia before always use very little elaboration. Pretty much every review and testing state that photography pro could obtain high quality photos if used in manual mode. It's not easy, but auto it's not good. For casual photo shot better using basic mode, if you switch to advancet setting, avoid auto and use P, S, or M mode.
I know it's a smartphone and not a mirrorless or a Reflex but it's something like buying a 5000 euro camera body to use it with automatic settings.
Also form the photo you posted i see that the wood construction in the xperia auto mode is darker...but...the tree foliage on the top left clearly show more detail in the middle photo. The Gcam settings appear to have too much sharpness and grain.
Probably the middle photo with a little more exposure time or a little more iso will be the best one of the three.
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Photography pro and pretty much every xperia before always use very little elaboration. Pretty much every review and testing state that photography pro could obtain high quality photos if used in manual mode.
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I won't argue this with you; I've seen some great results in reviews from people using the camera in Manual mode. I'm sure it's possible to obtain superior results if you have the time to compose your shot and find the perfect settings.
The thing is though, for most of the photos I would want to take with a smartphone camera, I don't have time to find optimal settings manually. When I do have that time, I think the ability to make those manual adjustments is awesome (and should be in more smartphones), but most of the time I don't. That means that the Auto/Basic modes are incredibly important, because it's how I'll end up taking most photos in real life. Maybe that means that this phone is not marketed to me, and if that's the case, that's fine. But manual settings are pretty much outside the scope of discussion for this thread - what I wanted was a comparison of essentially default settings between my current phone and this phone.
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For casual photo shot better using basic mode, if you switch to advancet setting, avoid auto and use P, S, or M mode.
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In my testing, I actually found that Basic mode usually takes worse photos than Auto mode. In particular, Basic mode seems to have a big problem with overexposure. I assume because HDR/DRO is not being used?
Left to right: Reference (Xiaomi), Sony Auto, Sony Basic, Sony Gcam
(I had to scale down this comparison for posting)
Also, all modes on this phone do not capture detail as well as my current 3 year old phone. If you blow up the details, clearly the reference photo on the left has by far the best preservation:
Left to right: Reference (Xiaomi), Sony Auto, Sony Basic, Sony Gcam
This holds for every test photo I took - the detail is worse from the Xperia. I don't think manual mode tweaks will fix this - it seems like the sensor and software just don't capture as much detail.
But then again, I am not a professional photographer, so I'm not completely sure. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
All in all, I was really disappointed with these results since I wanted to love this phone!
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
stiltzkin said:
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
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In this case for me Sony photo pro>Xiaomi>Sony GCam. Probably we have different opinions or eyes hehe
jaseman said:
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
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It's the new MHz race on x86 CPU when Pentium 4 were a thing
My race started with Hz
jaseman said:
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
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An owner of this particular phone with close to insanity price tag is supposed to be obsessed with camera quality. Just because this is the main selling point of it - Zeiss, Sony Alpha team etc. Unfortunaly I'm less than impressed too . Other flaws like average battery life, no face unlock, low screen brightness at daylight etc etc don't help to love this phone either....