Chromecast 2015 - Requires internet access - Google Chromecast 2015

So disappointed when I found this out, I just purchased this device and after I finally got all my media servers setup, cast screen, transcoding setup everything perfect, except the damn backdrop which I couldn't turn off ( I only want to mirror my screen I would care less about the internet functions, I wanted it for local playback, I don'e even really care about the dlna stuff either.), so fooling around with iptables I block the chromecast ip address and reboot chromecast thinking I beat it, and damn chromcast connects to AP but shows no internet access!! so I was like ok whatever that was expected, however it blocks screen mirroring, and DLNA until it can connect (after it connects once then you can block it again but what a hassle!)
so I was wondering if anyone knows the initial IP or hostname that it needs to connects to , I was thinking about just allowing that single host through then block everything else, Idk I might just return it this is really a deal breaker :....(, I own a device but it requires google to work, something not right here.
it's like buying a car but it won't run without being permanently hooked up to a gas station.
all the non wifi hacks are ridiculous too since they are just routing the internet through the cell network it's not actually doing anything different except using mobile data, what we need is some kind of server emulator that can send fake responses back (but since everything is sent over ssl I doubt that is possible).

otyg said:
So disappointed when I found this out, I just purchased this device and after I finally got all my media servers setup, cast screen, transcoding setup everything perfect, except the damn backdrop which I couldn't turn off ( I only want to mirror my screen I would care less about the internet functions, I wanted it for local playback, I don'e even really care about the dlna stuff either.), so fooling around with iptables I block the chromecast ip address and reboot chromecast thinking I beat it, and damn chromcast connects to AP but shows no internet access!! so I was like ok whatever that was expected, however it blocks screen mirroring, and DLNA until it can connect (after it connects once then you can block it again but what a hassle!)
so I was wondering if anyone knows the initial IP or hostname that it needs to connects to , I was thinking about just allowing that single host through then block everything else, Idk I might just return it this is really a deal breaker :....(, I own a device but it requires google to work, something not right here.
it's like buying a car but it won't run without being permanently hooked up to a gas station.
all the non wifi hacks are ridiculous too since they are just routing the internet through the cell network it's not actually doing anything different except using mobile data, what we need is some kind of server emulator that can send fake responses back (but since everything is sent over ssl I doubt that is possible).
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I think the first thing to realize is, that the chromecast is not primarily intended as a screen mirror receiver. It can do it, but it's primarily a streaming player for online content.
There are great miracast receivers that do basically what you want. While i agree that it's a bit strange for this feature to require internet access, it's sadly how google earns money. And after all, allowing the initial handshake is basically the same as leaving it unrestricted. Google won't stream your whole session, they just want to know what you use the cast for. You'd allow that anyways.

domsch1988 said:
I think the first thing to realize is, that the chromecast is not primarily intended as a screen mirror receiver. It can do it, but it's primarily a streaming player for online content.
There are great miracast receivers that do basically what you want. While i agree that it's a bit strange for this feature to require internet access, it's sadly how google earns money. And after all, allowing the initial handshake is basically the same as leaving it unrestricted. Google won't stream your whole session, they just want to know what you use the cast for. You'd allow that anyways.
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So what miracast receiver do you suggest in order to mirror the screen without any internet connection neither a mobile connenctio of a:
Samsung s3 neo
or
Samsung tab 3 7.0?
Thank you in advance for your reply!

Damiano40 said:
So what miracast receiver do you suggest in order to mirror the screen without any internet connection neither a mobile connenctio of a:
Samsung s3 neo
or
Samsung tab 3 7.0?
Thank you in advance for your reply!
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Well, sadly the state of miracast on Samsung isn't that easy. Samsung isn't saying on their site wether your specific Tablet supports miracast. They're all about samsung smart view... On Amazon there are tons of miracast dongles for 20$ or less. The fire TV Stick can do it too. The S3 Neo doesn't seem to support it. Samsung seems to have dropped miracast, mhl and usb-otg when refreshing the S3 Also, Samsung smart view only seems to be integrated into samsung smart tv's Again, samsungs information are scarce concerning that...
Is there a specific reason for not allowing internet access to the chromecast?

Miracast receiver "Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter v2"
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[Q] Archos Remote Control Ripped out yet?

I don't have an Archos but I have a Galaxy 10.1, Asus Transformer, and a Galaxy S phone. I have been trying to figure out how to strap the 10.1 to a headrest and remotely play movies for my son in the back seat and I'm hoping the Archos software would be the key.
Has anyone ripped the Remote Control Server APK from this rom to be used in other tablets/phones. The controller is on the market but the server side is not
Or if someone knows a way to do this that would be great. (Note: DLNA is nice but its a full PUSH and what I want to do is control the media already on the tablet, or use the Sprint 3g on the 10.1 to stream netflix.
I have tried Server VNC for droid, and it breaks on tablets.
Thanks for all your help!
Maybe someone with an Archos and another Android device can analyze what is sended by the other device to the Archos (Wireshark for example)
eagleofdeath13 said:
Maybe someone with an Archos and another Android device can analyze what is sended by the other device to the Archos (Wireshark for example)
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I am fairly sure this is not an APK, as sin not a simple app. it is a service baked into the system code of the ROM. This kinda of app is not overtly simple to add to android even IF you had all the source to the ROM, which no one does for HC yet.
The only problem is to know what is said on the network. After that, creating the app to communicate with it is "easy".
Am i to understand that you want to stream video to Archos from your Asus/Samsung ?
No, he wants to control his expensive Samsung 101 via a remote.
Something that comes included with any cheap Archos Gen8 ;-)
Expensive
Yes, its more expensive then the Archos but its 3g via Sprint. So I can stream, check email, watch IP cameras for restaurants that I am responsible for. But when traveling with the kids its nice to put in a headrest strap and control it.
Right now my son who is 3 will either tap the screen and freak out because the movie stopped playing, or if he is holding it he ends up stuck in some app. This will allow my wife or myself to start other movies, netflix streams, etc..
Headrest monitors for cars are not cheap (unless you get some really poor generic ones) and once the kids hit 5 years old they will not want to watch a linear movie, they would want to watch and interact with the web. (Humm or maybe I'm the biggest kid in the equation )
Right now I can DLNA push a video to the tablet using BubblePNP (Works great) but its annoying when my phone wifi sleeps or phone calls seem to mess with the connection. Remote control will keep each device truly separate. How many times I have walked out of the car to get gas out of range of the DLNA sharing is annoying.
Here you go...
I Hope this is what you are looking for...
Ripped out...Have Fun!
He doesn't need the remote, he needs the receiver for the Samsung.
I saw the words "remote" and "software" in the OP.
Yes, but he's searching the server side of the remote software ^^
Looks like the best way to get the Archos remote server app is to unpack Archo's firmware and take the server app out.
I found some linux tools that can do this, e.g. using aos-tools
However, my linux skill is only novice level at best, so I don't think I can unpack it successfully and find the remote server app.
Anyone happy to give it a try and share the file?
I see the instructions to unpack can be found here: http://archos.g3nius.org/index.php?title=The_aos-tools_Toolchain
I was looking for such app and Archos seems to the the only company which have a Android remote app right now... I am interested to install the remote server app on my Android phone or tablet and see if it works.
for control the tablet from an android phone you can use DroidMote Server / Client in the android market.

Chromecast 2015 - Screen Mirroring without internet connection [ISSUE]

Hi! I'm new in this forum.
I have this problem:
- I want to screen mirror my device (Samsung TAB 3 7.0) without a internet connection neither SIM (no mobile connection).
I made a wifi net with a NETGEAR router. I setup my chromecast to connect with this wifi (initially i gave this wifi a internet connection).
In this scenario all works fine and i can screen mirror without any problem.
Also if i stop internet connection i can continue to screen mirror without problem.
After I shut down Chromecast, when I restart it (the wifi have no internet connection at this time) and I try to connect my device for screen mirror it seems that my device can't connect with chromecast.
Anybody have some idea how to solve it?
Thank in advance!
I haven't found any solutions... i need some help!
Miracast receiver "Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter v2"
domsch1988 said:
I think the first thing to realize is, that the chromecast is not primarily intended as a screen mirror receiver. [...] There are great miracast receivers that do basically what you want.
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Damiano40 said:
So what miracast receiver do you suggest in order to mirror the screen without any internet connection
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@Damiano40 - You should try the Miracast receiver from Microsoft (Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter v2). Works great with my Nexus 7 (2013) on Android 6! :good:
Damiano40 said:
I haven't found any solutions... i need some help!
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I talked to Google about this at length. The basics are this: Chromecast requires a connection to the internet so it can pass things through Google. What most folks don't know is Google checks for pirated material. They flag the person who has it and reports it to the owners of the material for matters to be resolved by them.
I found this out because my aunt had a pirated movie and played it through Chromecast. She called me in because the casting stopped after a few minutes of broadcast. Later we got a message demanding we call Mediacom over it.
Another time the power went out and I wanted to Chromecast a video I downloaded (legally) and wanted to cast it to the screen. Google said they need it to be cast through Chromecast to them then bounced back to our set. Go figure.
In some instances of the newer Chromecast you can cast directly but not with the older model Chromecast.
If you can't mirror or cast to the Chromecast it is because of 1) the age of your device, 2) Some apps don't play well with Chromecast, or 3) you don't have a connection to Google.
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Lol, please tell me you are joking... If you aren't, then it would probably be best to educate yourself on how a Chromecast operates, and then think the process over in a thorough manner before spreading such nonsensical rumors in the future. I'm going to save my breath and not waste my time explaining why Google most definitely is not interrupting playback on your Chromecast because they "detected" you were playing pirated media... nor why they most definitely are not monitoring what you are playing and reporting it to Mediacom... I'll be the 1st one to cast suspicion on Google for many of their questionable practices with user data, but I can assure you that Google is not wasting their time targeting your aunt's Chromecast over a pirated TV show that ultimately Google has absolutely no way to ascertain whether your aunt has legally licensed. Your ISP on the other hand would happily hand over every shred of your personal data to any of the media conglomerates who demand it of them because they provided a log of you downloading that pirated show from a torrent.
skeltonh said:
I talked to Google about this at length. The basics are this: Chromecast requires a connection to the internet so it can pass things through Google. What most folks don't know is Google checks for pirated material. They flag the person who has it and reports it to the owners of the material for matters to be resolved by them.
I found this out because my aunt had a pirated movie and played it through Chromecast. She called me in because the casting stopped after a few minutes of broadcast. Later we got a message demanding we call Mediacom over it.
Another time the power went out and I wanted to Chromecast a video I downloaded (legally) and wanted to cast it to the screen. Google said they need it to be cast through Chromecast to them then bounced back to our set. Go figure.
In some instances of the newer Chromecast you can cast directly but not with the older model Chromecast.
If you can't mirror or cast to the Chromecast it is because of 1) the age of your device, 2) Some apps don't play well with Chromecast, or 3) you don't have a connection to Google.
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Wtf...this is so not true...Are you trolling??? I think the majority of users play pirated content on the chromecast..i you get flagged by anyone its your isp not google
Never said I played pirated content. However, without an internet connection the Chromecast is almost next to useless. Which is why I retired my devices for ones that can play directly without the internet. All in-house.
...and Google did tell me it required a connection to them, and they do sample content...

Help, Please: LG G5 7.0 Screen Mirroring Problem

Hi, I have an LG G5 Android version 7.0. I just recently purchased a Roku Express +. I had one of the very first generation Roku's but I haven't used it for 3 or 4 years so I got it all set up and was excited about the option to screen mirror my phone to watch content that I can't cast.
Everywhere I look shows me the exact same information, which is basically to go to my settings in my LG G5, share and connect, select the device, and then, supposedly, Voila! Except there is no Voila!
What ends up happening is that my phone sees the Roku unit and after it finishes searching it shows it's connecting. I've already been into my Roku settings and it sees the LG G5 and also has an abled no prompts necessary for connection. But within a couple of seconds of connecting to the Roku, and the Roku puts up a little purple screen that shows a small device and a large TV screen so it looks like something's going to happen, then the connection drops, Roku goes back to its home screen, and my phone shows no devices are available for connection.
I have tried to Google myself silly figuring out what might be going on. I can't screen mirror remotely from my phone to my TV, which is early generation flat screen and not a smart TV, but with an HDMI cord and a dongle I bought that allows it to work that way. But, of course, when I do that I'm limited to screen mirroring only as long as my battery is running because the dongle goes into my charging port on my phone.
Maybe I am misunderstanding things, but from everything I can see, it appears that my Roku model I have, which is a 3900 series, should work as the Miracast Dongle so that my LG G5 can screen mirror to my unsmart TV.
I have PlayStored myself to death and because Developers interchange the words "cast" and "mirror" it's been install, uninstall, install, uninstall Ad nauseam. For all of the apps that end up just basically being "assistants" and taking me to my share and connect page they are no help at all because even though I go through the process the same problem happens.
I did download one app, which works but is working so horribly because of the app itself that it's useless. So I do know that my phone can mirror through the Roku somehow but it is basically circumventing having to go through the Share & Connect somehow. That app was called Screen Stream Mirroring, and I was trying the free version because I did not want to spend $5 if it wasn't going to work at all. Aside from the annoying ads and limited time, it did a lot of "loading. . .", and had a significant delay. I don't mind the delay, but today it was working worse than it did last night when I first tried it. I'm not sure how it connects, but there was a little tab on the side that said to connect to Chromecast, DLNA, or other stuff, and when I clicked on that Roku popped up as an option because the app saw my Roku so I connected that way. Or any way connected crappily.
I know that's a lot of information, but I wanted to give you everything that I've tried so far. I've also cleared my caches, uninstalled the third party mirroring and casting apps, made sure there were no available updates for my LG G5 or Roku, rebooted my phone, unplug and rebooted the Roku, and I'm not sure if there is a great app I can download? I don't mind a third party app but I can't find one that will work for me right now. So if anybody has ideas on that. Again, I need something that will mirror and not just passed because I would like to view my DishAnywhere or other things on the TV that I can't see through my Roku.
Or, ideally, it would be great to have my phone mirror directly to the Roku without that connection dropping and not seeing the device for some reason. There is no Direct Customer Support with Roku or my model Roku even though I just bought it new. My only options are help center cookie cutter choices you have to select from a drop-down menu, none of which have anything to do with screen mirroring.
Thank you in advance for any experience and or suggestions and ideas to troubleshoot this.,
Kristie
Okay, how about a good Screen Mirroring App, not Casting, to mirror my LG G5 through my Roku? But it needs to bypass the Screen Mirroring button on my Share & Connect in Settings since that process keeps recognizing, trying to connect, and then dropping the Roku.
I did find one app that used a tab to connect directly to DNLA, Chromecast, etc. that recognized Roku and connected it, but the buffering/loading was horrible, the resolution wasn't great, and the second time I tried to use it the audio was not working. It was called Screen Stream Mirroring by MOBZAPP. Others I tried simply took me back to toggling on my Screen Mirroring button, and that is not working. Bypassing it did work, although the app wasn't great. I am hoping there is another, but I have not had luck since some developers say "mirror" but mean casting.
Thank you in advance for your time and and ideas,
Kristie

Help, Please: LG G5 7.0 Screen Mirroring Problem

Hi, I just recently purchased a Roku Express Plus. I had one of the very first generation Rokus but I haven't used it for 3 or 4 years so I got it all set up and was excited about the option to screen mirror my phone to watch content that I can't cast.
Everywhere I look shows me the exact same information, which is basically to go to my settings in my LG G5, share and connect, select the device, and then, supposedly, Voila! Except there is no Voila!
What ends up happening is that my phone sees the Roku unit and after it finishes searching it shows it's connecting. I've already been into my Roku settings and it sees the LG G5 and also has an abled no prompts necessary for connection. But within a couple of seconds of connecting to the Roku, and the Roku puts up a little purple screen that shows a small device and a large TV screen so it looks like something's going to happen, then the connection drops, Roku goes back to its home screen, and my phone shows no devices are available for connection.
I have tried to Google myself silly figuring out what might be going on. I can't screen mirror remotely from my phone to my TV, which is early generation flat screen and not a smart TV, but with an HDMI cord and a dongle I bought that allows it to work that way. But, of course, when I do that I'm limited to screen mirroring only as long as my battery is running because the dongle goes into my charging port on my phone.
Maybe I am misunderstanding things, but from everything I can see, it appears that my Roku model I have, which is a 3900 series, should work as the Miracast Dongle so that my LG G5 can screen mirror to my unsmart TV.
I have PlayStored myself to death and because Developers interchange the words "cast" and "mirror" it's been install, uninstall, install, uninstall Ad nauseam. For all of the apps that end up just basically being "assistants" and taking me to my share and connect page they are no help at all because even though I go through the process the same problem happens.
I did download one app, which works but is working so horribly because of the app itself that it's useless. So I do know that my phone can mirror through the Roku somehow but it is basically circumventing having to go through the Share & Connect somehow. That app was called Screen Stream Mirroring, and I was trying the free version because I did not want to spend $5 if it wasn't going to work at all. Aside from the annoying ads and limited time, it did a lot of "loading. . .", and had a significant delay. I don't mind the delay, but today it was working worse than it did last night when I first tried it. I'm not sure how it connects, but there was a little tab on the side that said to connect to Chromecast, DLNA, or other stuff, and when I clicked on that Roku popped up as an option because the app saw my Roku so I connected that way. Or any way connected crappily.
I know that's a lot of information, but I wanted to give you everything that I've tried so far. I've also cleared my caches, uninstalled the third party mirroring and casting apps, rebooted my phone, unplug and rebooted the Roku, and I'm not sure if there is a great app I can download? I don't mind a third party app but I can't find one that will work for me right now. So if anybody has ideas on that. Again, I need something that will mirror and not just passed because I would like to view my DishAnywhere or other things on the TV that I can't see through my Roku.
Or, ideally, it would be great to have my phone mirror directly to the Roku without that connection dropping and not seeing the device for some reason. There is no Direct Customer Support with Roku or my model Roku even though I just bought it new. My only options are help center cookie cutter choices you have to select from a drop-down menu, none of which have anything to do with screen mirroring.
Thank you in advance for any experience and or suggestions and ideas to troubleshoot this.,
Kristie
And if no one has any thoughts about how to solve the mirror dropping, how about a good Screen Mirroring App, not Casting, to mirror my LG G5 through my Roku? But it needs to bypass the Screen Mirroring button on my Share & Connect in Settings since that process keeps recognizing, trying to connect, and then dropping the Roku.
I did find one app that used a tab to connect directly to DNLA, Chromecast, etc. that recognized Roku and connected it, but the buffering/loading was horrible, the resolution wasn't great, and the second time I tried to use it the audio was not working. It was called Screen Stream Mirroring by MOBZAPP. Others I tried simply took me back to toggling on my Screen Mirroring button, and that is not working. Bypassing it did work, although the app wasn't great. I am hoping there is another, but I have not had luck since some developers say "mirror" but mean casting.
Thank you in again for your time and and ideas,
Kristie

Miracast (WiFi screen casting) RECEIVER app for Android

Hi,
I have a Galaxy S7 which comes with the "Smart View" app in Android 8.0, which makes it easy to screen cast the phone to another Miracast device (e.g. TV or PC). Is there any way to do the reverse, i.e. using the phone as a Miracast host to display the screen of, say, another phone or PC? In particular, I want to use the Wireless Display feature in Windows 10 to have the phone as an external PC display. Windows can do both (cast to a device and host/display a cast from a device) but Smart View can only cast, not host. I don't want to use a media streaming app over the local network or god forbid a remote desktop solution routing everything through the internet. I want to use specifically Miracast because it's fast, convenient, built-in to many devices and most importantly uses direct peer-to-peer WiFi instead of going through the rest of the network, thus it's perfect for short-distance casting, which is exactly my use case. Unfortunately, I can't find any app that allows the phone to receive Miracast streams. Can anyone help?

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