Notes for choosing to root their phone! - Galaxy Grand 2 General

In this thread im going to show u some important notes for new people on rooting or some people who have no experience on rooting their devices! Here's some PROS and CONS!
Cons:
1. Rooting makes u have more functionality yet drains mostly the battery. It is because of XPOSED Modules, Tweaks and other flashed things on youre phone, it also somehow slows down the phone's performance. Except for the flashed zip that helps your performance and batter enhanced.
2. Root voids warranty, just any other warning: IT VOIDS WARRANTIES. Somehow except for flashing STOCK, it will regain ur phone's warranty (except for other devices).
3. Rooting triggers unability of updating ur phone to latest stock firmware except for doing the kies method.
4. It probably causes u too brick you phone that can completely kill the phone not because of the hardware but the software.
Pros:
1. Root takes u to monetization too! Which is a good thing if you're an business guy who doesnt want to go see the sun and just wants to love also their ol friend named Linux
2. Blocks and remove bloatware's which is also a good thing on performance and batter enhancement.
3. Hours of learning and teaching on the forums. This is like my life right now, everyday I look onto youre problems and replies answers which can be a failure or success.
4. Its damn legal! Theres nothing gonna stop you from rooting but dont go into Watch Dogs style where he has a custom OS which can hack into Goverment and techs.
5. Tons of apps that can be helpful on your performance, battery enhancement, device modification, monetization and ANY OTHER COOL STUFF!

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[Q] Rooting help

so Im new to this and ive seen videos of how to root the at&t samsung galaxy note
and i want to know is it even possible to root/flash a phone that is still locked?
and what are advatages/disadvantages of rooting a locked phone?
help please
thanks
A locked phone is just a phone that is tied to one carrier.
A rooted phone is a phone where the user (you) has enabled root access to the phone, which provides you with (nearly) ultimate control of the phone. It typically voids your warranty, although there are many ROMs and root methods that will not trigger the flash counter (which shows your carrier that you've tampered with the device). It can be risky, since you are able to damage your phone, the worst case scenario being a "bricked" phone, which means the device will no longer turn on, rendering it fairly useless. The benefits include:
access to grant permissions to certain apps (which lets you do some pretty cool stuff, like making a backup of all your apps so you don't have to download them individually every time you reset your phone, or the ability to uninstall carrier bloatware)
the ability to flash custom roms!
do you need any others? you can FLASH CUSTOM ROMS dammit!!
Without getting too technical, custom ROMs are third party pieces of software that alter, and hopefully upgrade, your current (Stock) rom. This means you can get updates to your phone long before your carrier releases the OTA updates, and you can get customized versions which look and feel better and allow you to do awesome things like overclock your cpu for faster speeds (which improves overall perfomance), or undervolt it for increased battery life...or a little bit of both. A lot of the time you don't even need to do this yourself, because these awesome developers will set all that up for you.
So just to recap, you are taking a risk every time you root your phone or flash a custom rom, however, the guides make it very difficult for you to hard-brick your phone (soft bricking can be frustrating, but is far from the death of your phone), and there are safety measures you can put in place, like nandroid backups (only once youre rooted! ). Also, most phones have a guide for getting back to stock in case all hell breaks loose on your phone.
I am by no means an expert at this, but I have flashed a few hundred roms, and rooted at least 30 different devices (phones and tablets), and I have yet to hard brick a device. I believe the rewards far outweigh the risks, although to each his own.

I am New user. Please tell me why should I root my phone? What are the risks ?

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The main reason why I rooted my phone was to have more control and access to features that the original ROM didn't contain. Overclocking is another reason.
The risks of bricking your device are very low if you just read, search and learn.
Sent from my wonderful HTC Sensation
Rooting your phone allows you to truly make the phone "yours". I first rooted my phone so that I could use it as a wifi hotspot for free. With a rooted phone, you can improve battery life, overclock or underclock your phone, remove stock apps that you don't need or use, and you have access to various apps that improve the overall performance/stability of the phone.
The biggest advantage is to be able to flash roms.The advantages i stated before are great but can take a while to find all of the ones you want and set it up just right. Thats where custom roms come in, you can search for the perfect rom that suits you best that will already include battery/performance/stability improvements. Also most roms come with optional apps or zips that you have the choice to put into your rom, and if you still find some you don't like then you can simply delete them with an app like Root Explorer. For ex: When you were choosing a phone you may like something on an HTC device that is not on a samsung device, but you like the samsung device more overall, well that is the advantage of rooting. All android phones can do the same things (given that they have similar hardware) you just have to find the rom that contains everything you like.
The disadvantages are of course bricking your phone but as the other poster stated, there is a very small chance of this happening as long as you follow the directions that the developer has posted. Even if you did manage to brick your device, there are a number of postings and videos out there that will walk you through the necessary steps of unbricking your phone.
My main reason was to delete the HTC default software (HTC Peep, HTC Mail... sense in general), which was really laggy. If you root your phone, you will lose your phone warranty, so maybe you want to wait until the warranty expires.
Once rooted if you want you can flash a custom rom, like CyanogenMod, which is fast and very customizable. And even if you want, you can make a completely custom rom, deleting the things you don't want in CyanogenMod and putting others by your own preferences.
And as jamarious and evilmastr said, you can brick your phone, but it is very rare if you follow steps carefully.
Good luck.
Having a different User Interface with various roms makes for a fresh new experience.
Some example screenshots can be seen here.

Newbie to Android...need some help.

hi guys
well i am new to Android and this is my 1st interaction with this OS,previously for a long time i have been using Nokia Symbian and left it for just one reason,system is too much closed,you don't have application choice,market and all you have to do is,use native apps.
then i came to iPhone and also didn't like it much because of its dam iTunes dependency otherwise its good.
then i now bought Android after hearing its much praising and its beating app market (i bought Dell Venue) but just ONE thing that annoyed me and made me think of iPhone AGAIN,is its dam poor battery life in native mode,unless you HAVE to install battery saving softwares...(my question is,WHY i must install such app) then i searched for info from Google and found that rooting and custom ROM flashing might solve the problem.
i am a total newbie to Android,can anyone guide me about should i just root it or install a custom ROM.currently it is on Android 2.3.3
the one thing that made me stick to Dell Venue,the gadgets and software market,cam result (iPhone is down at cam point,don't wana buy iPhone 4,never liked its shape and don't afford this much) etc.
Um, you need to root to flash. Rooting by itself is like gas without a car.
Flashing a from would be viable though, check your devices forum.
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Since you are a new to Android do not hurry up. Custom ROM may have better battery life but it may be buggy so you may stuck without working phone. Also it's not trivial to install custom ROM. I did quick search and found good step by step guide. Google following string "step by step dell venue custom rom" look into it. Is it easy for your to do all the steps? Usually it's not trivial and your phone maybe dead if you pass only half of these steps.
Instead of installing battare saving software you may check all apps that you have installed and delete what you are not using. This is not 100% working solution but you may try.
Please note that 1 day battery life is good result for usual Android phone.
Hope this will be helpful...
purler said:
Since you are a new to Android do not hurry up. Custom ROM may have better battery life but it may be buggy so you may stuck without working phone. Also it's not trivial to install custom ROM. I did quick search and found good step by step guide. Google following string "step by step dell venue custom rom" look into it. Is it easy for your to do all the steps? Usually it's not trivial and your phone maybe dead if you pass only half of these steps.
Instead of installing battare saving software you may check all apps that you have installed and delete what you are not using. This is not 100% working solution but you may try.
Please note that 1 day battery life is good result for usual Android phone.
Hope this will be helpful...
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thanks a lot for your kind and yes i agree with your last line,that they are heavy graphics,and if they are giving one day battery time,it is more than good but in my case,it is not even giving one day even.i use it lightly with very controlled use (sms,browsing) and if i compare it with my previous interaction with iPhone,it was not this much bad that android has shown me despite of being its severely iTunes dependency.
you know i love gadgets and softwares but i am against some things...when iPhone 3G came new,i was annoyed by one thing...why i must install a new app for everything i want to do,i have bought a phone,i paid for it,why its native apps don't have that capability then the phone is a crap for me atleast but i have seen people iPhone maniac...Nokia doesn't give apps but their native apps are more than sufficient for basic purpose.
so my point is,i will install battery saving apps,but there shouldn't be the need for it.
also i am newbie to Android and new to its OS so don't want to take any risk by installing custom ROM (when i jailbroke and unlocked iPhone,it was like i am in a den)...will it solve my battery issues or should i do something else.because i have installed apps which i need mostly,when there is a market and have apps i install them,otherwise if i have to uninstall and just use 1-2apps,then should i not move to blackberry or Nokia....
please don't get annoyed...i am not meaning anything specifically to you.but i am loving my dell venue but just because of annoying from battery i am becoming off from android.
one more thing...
i heard from someone that there can be one more possible solution...to get a new batter with more power.currently i have a 1500mA batter Dell.if i get a better ampere battery will it solve the battery timing issues? or will it damage the phone?

Bootloader

So i have some questions on XZ2
I know that unlocking your bootloader wipes your DRM Keys but can someone give me a list of stuff that stops working afterwards?
How big is an improvement is the Z2 conpared to the Z1
-UI is more responsive... Faster?
-does the device feel nice. Buttons. Screen, flaps etc/ect?
-whats the device like to work with
Lets say i want to port Envi-OS or ubuntu touch (your choice) how hard would that be as oppsosed to porting to Xperia S or Nexus 5 (i may concider trying such a thing)
What can you do?
I do a tonne of nonsense with my phones
-i play games that destroy my battery in minuites
- i hotboot linux OSs over android
-i tinker with stuff for hours
-I watch movies/youtube nonsense for hours
-much else i do...
>you own opinion is apreciated greatly aswell
Rooting /flashing
How hard is this device to root or flash things onto
Is it as easy as using a tool to flash a supersu zip or a kernel with autoroot?(same something about that somewhere)
Envious_Data said:
So i have some questions on XZ2
I know that unlocking your bootloader wipes your DRM Keys but can someone give me a list of stuff that stops working afterwards?
How big is an improvement is the Z2 conpared to the Z1
-UI is more responsive... Faster?
-does the device feel nice. Buttons. Screen, flaps etc/ect?
-whats the device like to work with
Lets say i want to port Envi-OS or ubuntu touch (your choice) how hard would that be as oppsosed to porting to Xperia S or Nexus 5 (i may concider trying such a thing)
What can you do?
I do a tonne of nonsense with my phones
-i play games that destroy my battery in minuites
- i hotboot linux OSs over android
-i tinker with stuff for hours
-I watch movies/youtube nonsense for hours
-much else i do...
>you own opinion is apreciated greatly aswell
Rooting /flashing
How hard is this device to root or flash things onto
Is it as easy as using a tool to flash a supersu zip or a kernel with autoroot?(same something about that somewhere)
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Well, You can use a tutorial to save your keys and unlock your bootloader! I always unlocked the official way and I have never saved any keys. I felt no difference really but I have read that some users complained about it so I will tell you to make a back up of TA. There are many tutorials available.
Well, If you talk about improvements, there are clear improvements in hardware and to the eye, you might not actually notice much unless you keep the devices side by side!
By Porting, do you mean to flash a ROM or to actually programme to PORT it for your device ? If you mean to flash, if the support is available. There would be no problem! Ubuntu has been ported easily on many devices so I dont think Z2 won't be able to handle it!
Well, you can use your phone for games, movies/ youtube and experiment with it! I have always rooted my phone within two hours of purchase so I think it is okay if you like to play with it a bit!
Heavy games drain battery really quicker whilst movies will give you 5-6 hours of play back usually. You should check out gsmarena or phonearena for battery tests on Z2 which will make it much easier for you to decide!
Rooting/Flashing :
It is getting easier and easier and my guess is that it will only take 2-7 minutes to flash a ROM/kernel or Root it depending upon if you know basics about it! Secondly remember the drivers are really important so make sure you have all the drivers before trying to root/flash as it will try to find your device forever!
Good Luck
Hnk1 said:
Well, You can use a tutorial to save your keys and unlock your bootloader! I always unlocked the official way and I have never saved any keys. I felt no difference really but I have read that some users complained about it so I will tell you to make a back up of TA. There are many tutorials available.
Well, If you talk about improvements, there are clear improvements in hardware and to the eye, you might not actually notice much unless you keep the devices side by side!
By Porting, do you mean to flash a ROM or to actually programme to PORT it for your device ? If you mean to flash, if the support is available. There would be no problem! Ubuntu has been ported easily on many devices so I dont think Z2 won't be able to handle it!
Well, you can use your phone for games, movies/ youtube and experiment with it! I have always rooted my phone within two hours of purchase so I think it is okay if you like to play with it a bit!
Heavy games drain battery really quicker whilst movies will give you 5-6 hours of play back usually. You should check out gsmarena or phonearena for battery tests on Z2 which will make it much easier for you to decide!
Rooting/Flashing :
It is getting easier and easier and my guess is that it will only take 2-7 minutes to flash a ROM/kernel or Root it depending upon if you know basics about it! Secondly remember the drivers are really important so make sure you have all the drivers before trying to root/flash as it will try to find your device forever!
Good Luck
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That's good to know so I'm assuming unlocking your boot loader only breaks bravia engine and the usual media nonsenses
I am quite familiar with a lot of the above i was wondering about any odd things i should know
I have a Sony Xperia S and I've been test building Envi-OS for Xperia S

[Q] Best custom rom for S-On?

I am new to this, after switching from an iPhone.
And so far it has been sooo confusing.
I have learned that you cannot get ViperOne on AT&T without S-off because they haven't updated to 4.4.4
But the guide doesn't mention that? Luckily I asked on their IRC before I tried.
I am wondering if there are any good custom roms for 4.4.2 with S-On.
After learning about ViperOne and having no warning that it won't work on AT&T, I am skeptical if their are any that will work.
I am new to this. and I'm very surprised the official guide on Venomroms.com doesn't warn you that it doesn't work on AT&T without S-off.
Coming from using and iPhone for the last 3-4 years this seems ridiculous. So any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also is it HTC that makes it so hard to root , unlock, and customize? Or is it Android? I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone recommends android. I had no idea you had to pay money to load custom roms.
Edit - So I just read that you can't flash custom firmware without being S-Off. Guess that answers the question. This phone sucks. No wonder why iPhone 6 was still out of stock.
nigerlet said:
I am new to this, after switching from an iPhone.
And so far it has been sooo confusing.
I have learned that you cannot get ViperOne on AT&T without S-off because they haven't updated to 4.4.4
But the guide doesn't mention that? Luckily I asked on their IRC before I tried.
I am wondering if there are any good custom roms for 4.4.2 with S-On.
After learning about ViperOne and having no warning that it won't work on AT&T, I am skeptical if their are any that will work.
I am new to this. and I'm very surprised the official guide on Venomroms.com doesn't warn you that it doesn't work on AT&T without S-off.
Coming from using and iPhone for the last 3-4 years this seems ridiculous. So any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also is it HTC that makes it so hard to root , unlock, and customize? Or is it Android? I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone recommends android. I had no idea you had to pay money to load custom roms.
Edit - So I just read that you can't flash custom firmware without being S-Off. Guess that answers the question. This phone sucks. No wonder why iPhone 6 was still out of stock.
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And what custom roms were you running on your iPhone?
edit: Must not feed troll...
1. A whole new world of apps
Android offers a wide range of apps for every situation, but when you want something that offers a somewhat ”more advanced” function you usually require root level permissions. Having root permission simply means to be an ”administrator” of your device, so you have control over deeper interactions with the system. This allows us to uninstall bloatware (pre-loaded apps), control firewalls, management systems and even enable gesture controls through multi-touch modifications. There are also apps that work fine without root, but whose full potential is only realized with root, such as antivirus apps, with their locking systems/remote access or CleanMaster, which lets you remove bloatware if you are rooted.
2. Customize like never before
Android devices are famous for their ability to change launcher, icon packs, live wallpapers, ringtones, keyboard sounds and much more. However, this customization is usually limited to superficial aesthetic changes. With root permissions you can modify the system files to your liking, including system sounds as well as the boot animation, which is what you see when you start your device up. The level of customization that is possible is near-limitless, but you can only start to see how deep the rabbit hole goes once you’ve taken the first step.
3. Performance beyond all limits
There are already many apps that can free up your RAM or speed up your phone, and However, with ”normal” methods it is not possible to overcome the limitations imposed by the hardware itself, but only to work within those predefined limits. Once again, root permission comes to the rescue, allowing you to modify the actual speed of the CPU via overclocking. To do this it is necessary to flash a custom kernel – the link connecting your hardware to software – that allows it, but the process is very simple, even more so using the app Kernel Manager.
4. No more problems with the battery
Smartphones continue to evolve, but the Achilles heel of the battery has not yet been resolved. Although the best phones can guarantee 24 hours of use (and beyond, thanks to power-saving features), many of us fail to get to the end of the evening. Solution? Buy yourself the LG G3, the new king of the battery! Or, if you’re not going to shell out that kind of money, or because you are simply loyal to your current smartphone, you can root and solve the problem yourself. With root you can access a number of functions that will allow you to choose how much power goes to the CPU, so setting a lower limit, called undervolting, can make significant savings in terms of power consumption. Again, you’ll need a different kernel to the one your phone came with.
5. Automate everything
Many of you already know the application Tasker, which allows us to automate virtually every aspect of our smartphones. For those not in the know, on the basis of an event (such as the insertion of the headphones, our specific location, a particular time of day etc) we can match an action to it (launch apps, send text messages, play a song) – all managed by this application. It also works without root permissions, but with them we will be able to access the complete list of possible interactions, such as activation of the internet, GPS, screen control, CPU speed, and much more.
6. Flash custom ROMs
This is the number one reason why the majority of Android users decide to get root permissions. In addition to radically (or subtly) customizing a smartphone, the major custom ROMs we like the most tend to outdo the stock ROM in terms of functionality, performance and fluidity; an example is OmniROM, who are working on a ROM for fully integrated voice commands, allowing you to control every function of your smartphone via voice commands. Another important feature is the ability to upgrade our old and manufacturer-abandoned smartphone with the latest versions of Android. Here’s our list of the most important custom ROM and root terms explained.
7. Block advertizing
While advertizing is, for many developers, their only source of income and the only thing that allows them to create otherwise free apps, it can also be a nuisance that you want to eliminate from your smartphone experience. If an app contains invasive advertising that not only consumes a large amount of data but that can also potentially trigger subscriptions without our consent, as we’ve seen repeatedly with WhatsApp, it’s a problem that can be dealt with if you have root. Apps like AdBlock Plus give you control over the advertizing contained in apps and browsers. The use of this application and of other similar ones is possible only for those with root level permissions.
8. Perform full backups
Every Android device has the ability to make a backup of applications and certain data, within the settings menu or through the use of management software like Samsung’s Kies. Even if you decide to use these options together with various cloud services, nothing can ultimately compete with the features offered by root permission backups. For example, it is only with root that you can use the legendary app Titanium Backup, with which you can make copies of the entire system image of your device and move it to your SD card or computer. You also have the the ability to automate the process at regular intervals.
9. Access features from other phones
One of the best features (or worst, from the point of view of programmers) of Android devices is the incredible variety of phones and tablets that use it, not to mention the individual manufacturer changes to the Android system. This allows us to always have a different device than everyone else, but it also means not always being able to enjoy the unique features reserved for a group of top of the range smartphones. As you’re probably starting to realize, root permissions also allow us to do this. In forums like XDA Developers there is a wealth of flashable zips available for all sorts of features, scripts and functions. In addition, we can enable limited functions from specific manufacturers, such as installing LG’s Knock On feature on non-LG devices, or using features such as tethering to share and connect phones via USB, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
10. Become the master of your universe
This is actually one of the most convincing reasons to root your phone. You bought it, so it’s yours and you don’t want to be told what you can or cannot do with your own property. Android, by its very nature, is a free system born from the idea of creating an ecosystem of independent software and hardware that is open to everyone Getting root permission, in addition to the benefits listed above and many more that I could mention, will make you the ”real” owner of your smartphone, giving you complete control, albeit with some risks, of customizing basically anything you want to, exactly how you want it. And this is perhaps the best part of rooting your Android.
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rquinn19 said:
And what custom roms were you running on your iPhone?
edit: Must not feed troll...
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Didn't need one. A jailbreak was enough. iOS is flawless. I made a mistake buying this ****. But hey the speakers are nice.
scoot0073 said:
1. A whole new world of apps
Android offers a wide range of apps for every situation, but when you want something that offers a somewhat ”more advanced” function you usually require root level permissions. Having root permission simply means to be an ”administrator” of your device, so you have control over deeper interactions with the system. This allows us to uninstall bloatware (pre-loaded apps), control firewalls, management systems and even enable gesture controls through multi-touch modifications. There are also apps that work fine without root, but whose full potential is only realized with root, such as antivirus apps, with their locking systems/remote access or CleanMaster, which lets you remove bloatware if you are rooted.
2. Customize like never before
Android devices are famous for their ability to change launcher, icon packs, live wallpapers, ringtones, keyboard sounds and much more. However, this customization is usually limited to superficial aesthetic changes. With root permissions you can modify the system files to your liking, including system sounds as well as the boot animation, which is what you see when you start your device up. The level of customization that is possible is near-limitless, but you can only start to see how deep the rabbit hole goes once you’ve taken the first step.
3. Performance beyond all limits
There are already many apps that can free up your RAM or speed up your phone, and However, with ”normal” methods it is not possible to overcome the limitations imposed by the hardware itself, but only to work within those predefined limits. Once again, root permission comes to the rescue, allowing you to modify the actual speed of the CPU via overclocking. To do this it is necessary to flash a custom kernel – the link connecting your hardware to software – that allows it, but the process is very simple, even more so using the app Kernel Manager.
4. No more problems with the battery
Smartphones continue to evolve, but the Achilles heel of the battery has not yet been resolved. Although the best phones can guarantee 24 hours of use (and beyond, thanks to power-saving features), many of us fail to get to the end of the evening. Solution? Buy yourself the LG G3, the new king of the battery! Or, if you’re not going to shell out that kind of money, or because you are simply loyal to your current smartphone, you can root and solve the problem yourself. With root you can access a number of functions that will allow you to choose how much power goes to the CPU, so setting a lower limit, called undervolting, can make significant savings in terms of power consumption. Again, you’ll need a different kernel to the one your phone came with.
5. Automate everything
Many of you already know the application Tasker, which allows us to automate virtually every aspect of our smartphones. For those not in the know, on the basis of an event (such as the insertion of the headphones, our specific location, a particular time of day etc) we can match an action to it (launch apps, send text messages, play a song) – all managed by this application. It also works without root permissions, but with them we will be able to access the complete list of possible interactions, such as activation of the internet, GPS, screen control, CPU speed, and much more.
6. Flash custom ROMs
This is the number one reason why the majority of Android users decide to get root permissions. In addition to radically (or subtly) customizing a smartphone, the major custom ROMs we like the most tend to outdo the stock ROM in terms of functionality, performance and fluidity; an example is OmniROM, who are working on a ROM for fully integrated voice commands, allowing you to control every function of your smartphone via voice commands. Another important feature is the ability to upgrade our old and manufacturer-abandoned smartphone with the latest versions of Android. Here’s our list of the most important custom ROM and root terms explained.
7. Block advertizing
While advertizing is, for many developers, their only source of income and the only thing that allows them to create otherwise free apps, it can also be a nuisance that you want to eliminate from your smartphone experience. If an app contains invasive advertising that not only consumes a large amount of data but that can also potentially trigger subscriptions without our consent, as we’ve seen repeatedly with WhatsApp, it’s a problem that can be dealt with if you have root. Apps like AdBlock Plus give you control over the advertizing contained in apps and browsers. The use of this application and of other similar ones is possible only for those with root level permissions.
8. Perform full backups
Every Android device has the ability to make a backup of applications and certain data, within the settings menu or through the use of management software like Samsung’s Kies. Even if you decide to use these options together with various cloud services, nothing can ultimately compete with the features offered by root permission backups. For example, it is only with root that you can use the legendary app Titanium Backup, with which you can make copies of the entire system image of your device and move it to your SD card or computer. You also have the the ability to automate the process at regular intervals.
9. Access features from other phones
One of the best features (or worst, from the point of view of programmers) of Android devices is the incredible variety of phones and tablets that use it, not to mention the individual manufacturer changes to the Android system. This allows us to always have a different device than everyone else, but it also means not always being able to enjoy the unique features reserved for a group of top of the range smartphones. As you’re probably starting to realize, root permissions also allow us to do this. In forums like XDA Developers there is a wealth of flashable zips available for all sorts of features, scripts and functions. In addition, we can enable limited functions from specific manufacturers, such as installing LG’s Knock On feature on non-LG devices, or using features such as tethering to share and connect phones via USB, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
10. Become the master of your universe
This is actually one of the most convincing reasons to root your phone. You bought it, so it’s yours and you don’t want to be told what you can or cannot do with your own property. Android, by its very nature, is a free system born from the idea of creating an ecosystem of independent software and hardware that is open to everyone Getting root permission, in addition to the benefits listed above and many more that I could mention, will make you the ”real” owner of your smartphone, giving you complete control, albeit with some risks, of customizing basically anything you want to, exactly how you want it. And this is perhaps the best part of rooting your Android.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
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Thanks for the android advertisement. Doesn't help with anything though. This OS is garbage. HTC also seemed to make it worse. But my phone is made out of aluminum which is pretty cool.
Stop complaining about the phone and just pay for sunshine s-off.
The issue is not your phone, but lack of research before buying.
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If you want a 4.4.2 ROM, there are still some good ones. But you haven't stated why you even need or want a custom ROM at all, so its impossible to recommend anything until you do so.
You created a thread to ask for help ,but at same time you wanna bash something that you know nothing about. People on here are more than welcome to help you but by being negative is not going to help.
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redpoint73 said:
Stop complaining about the phone and just pay for sunshine s-off.
The issue is not your phone, but lack of research before buying.
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If you want a 4.4.2 ROM, there are still some good ones. But you haven't stated why you even need or want a custom ROM at all, so its impossible to recommend anything until you do so.
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Ok pretty much the only reason is the crazy ass battery drain. This phone is less than a month old and 100% can't last a day with light use. Seriously the battery % drops by the minute when I'm simply browsing the web. That's the only reason. Everything else seems like a bonus. But why should I have to spend $25 to have a decent battery?
Edit : I did read online that AT&T has a battery drain issue and that's why they are holding back updates. I did re-calibrate the battery didn't work. Factory resetting the phone also didn't work. After that I went to AT&T and the dude told me it's typical for HTC devices to drain that fast and tried to sell me a galaxy. I don't mean to be offensive, I'm just very disappointed and now I'm stuck with this phone for over a year.
nigerlet said:
Ok pretty much the only reason is the crazy ass battery drain. This phone is less than a month old and 100% can't last a day with light use. Seriously the battery % drops by the minutes when I'm simply browsing the web. That's the only reason. Everything else seems like a bonus. But why should I have to spend $25 to have a decent battery?
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Battery life is a complicated issue on any device, no matter what OS.
A few basic battery saving tips:
1) Turn off "auto" brightness and turn down the screen to the lowest brightness you find palatable (50% works for me).
2) Turn off GPS when not in use
3) Turn off sync for services you don't use
You should also check the signal strength (dBm) under Settings>About>Network>Signal Strength, and post what you see there.
Its also possible that AT&T bloat is killing the battery (some folks have had the issue) but it may not be a silver bullet.
It might just be a matter of using an app like Watchdog Task Manager to see what is eating the battery, and freezing or removing that app (if its not a critical one).
Alternately, I found that GoldenEye was a nice cleaned up "stockish" ROM back in olden times when I was on 4.4.2. I found it to run well on AT&T, and is "international" based so therefore devoid of any AT&T meddling:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705640
redpoint73 said:
Battery life is a complicated issue on any device, no matter what OS.
Its possible that AT&T bloat is killing the battery (some folks have had the issue) but it may not be a silver bullet.
It might just be a matter of using an app like Watchdog Task Manager to see what is eating the battery, and freezing or removing that app (if its not a critical one).
Alternately, I found that GoldenEye was a nice cleaned up "stockish" ROM back in olden times when I was on 4.4.2. I found it to run well on AT&T, and is "international" based so therefore devoid of any AT&T meddling:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705640
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I guess I'll just pay the $25. I want the best if I'm getting a custom rom. And like I said in the edit post above I am stuck with this phone for over a year. Thanks for the help, sorry for being salty.
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I guess I'll just pay the $25. I want the best if I'm getting a custom rom. And like I said in the edit post above I am stuck with this phone for over a year. Thanks for the help, sorry for being salty.
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I've reconfigured my previous post to include some basic power saving tips. It occurred to me that if Android is new to you, battery life may be something rather simple, like screen brightness.
Check it out, and see if it helps.
I had typed up a message but you guys ninja'd me coming back to decency and handling things, so forget I was ever here.
As to the battery thing, I recommend flashing an AOSP ROM with nano or pico gapps. I've always gotten much better battery life using AOSP over Sense.
I never experienced the battery drain issue as a lot of others did.but then again 2 days after purchasing my At&T M8 I went to Sunshine and played the 25 to s-off. But coming from a iPhone/IOS after many years of use to another different manufacturer and OS I could totally understand your frustrations. I have never owned a IOS device always had and stayed with Android but I'd be in the exactly same boat as you if I did switch. Just be patient and read and ask questions , and welcome to the forum's
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nigerlet said:
I am new to this, after switching from an iPhone.
And so far it has been sooo confusing.
I have learned that you cannot get ViperOne on AT&T without S-off because they haven't updated to 4.4.4
But the guide doesn't mention that? Luckily I asked on their IRC before I tried.
I am wondering if there are any good custom roms for 4.4.2 with S-On.
After learning about ViperOne and having no warning that it won't work on AT&T, I am skeptical if their are any that will work.
I am new to this. and I'm very surprised the official guide on Venomroms.com doesn't warn you that it doesn't work on AT&T without S-off.
Coming from using and iPhone for the last 3-4 years this seems ridiculous. So any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also is it HTC that makes it so hard to root , unlock, and customize? Or is it Android? I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone recommends android. I had no idea you had to pay money to load custom roms.
Edit - So I just read that you can't flash custom firmware without being S-Off. Guess that answers the question. This phone sucks. No wonder why iPhone 6 was still out of stock.
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Uhm, you dont have to be 4.4.4 to run the Viper rom nor do you have to be S-OFF. Just go to their site and download 2.5.0 which is the build that will run on AT&T's current 4.4.2. Once AT&T pushes the 4.4.4 update flash the 4.4.4 RUU then go back and flash Viper 3.2.1.
Dude, my M8 can go 2 days EASY. Simply the best phone that has been released yet.
I'm curious as well... I was running cm12 on my m7 but recently had to get a m8.. now im running into all sorts of issues. all i want is a stable sense/ lollipop rom. I want to stay s-on... htcdev's team frowns on s-off. HELP?!?
bford152 said:
I'm curious as well... I was running cm12 on my m7 but recently had to get a m8.. now im running into all sorts of issues. all i want is a stable sense/ lollipop rom.
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The ROMs are plenty stable. If you have issues, its likely due to firmware that is not compatible with the ROM.
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I want to stay s-on... htcdev's team frowns on s-off.
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What does that even mean? If you want full flexibility to mod the phone as you like, s-off the phone.
What I'm trying to ask, without s-off'ing the device, what custom roms based on lollipop on ATT software ver 4.4.2?
I think you want the Dev edition lollipop RUU. You will need to change CID and can be s-on. You will loose AT&T visual voicemail functionality (but might be able to add that back in with a mod) and no at&t specific apps will come with RUU, but the Dev edition is same code base as at&t version and will work on at&t device.
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I think you want the Dev edition lollipop RUU. You will need to change CID and can be s-on. You will loose AT&T visual voicemail functionality (but might be able to add that back in with a mod) and no at&t specific apps will come with RUU, but the Dev edition is same code base as at&t version and will work on at&t device.
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Don't you have to be s-off to change cid?

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