[Q] Not enough Memory when moving Apps - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I have Lineage / CM14.1 installed, and my SD is formatted as internal memory.
Now it is so that most apps are installed on the SD by default. A few of these must be mandatory in the internal memory. Now I have the problem that i can't move some Apps to the internal Memory. So when I try to move apps from external memory to the internal, I get the error message: Not enough space
But there is definitely enough internal memory space (9GB). The app itself has so around the 25MB (Watchmacker Pro)
Does anyone have a tip for me?

You can't have your SD card formatted as internal storage and still use the device storage. It is one or the other.

If i go to Settings / Apps / choose an App ( for me Watchmaker) / Storage(?) / change. There can i move from SD to Internal shared Memory.
That is necessary, because Apps, that uses Widgets, must be installed in Internal shared Memory.

Baron1971 said:
If i go to Settings / Apps / choose an App ( for me Watchmaker) / Storage(?) / change. There can i move from SD to Internal shared Memory.
That is necessary, because Apps, that uses Widgets, must be installed in Internal shared Memory.
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I understand that. It is also that many apps are coded not to be moved to sdcards. This is why Google added the merging of sdcard and internal storage into android 7.0
I would run a logcat and see what is causing the out of memory issue. It could be something as easy as one of CM features/bugs that was never fixed as apps to sdcard has been frowned upon for many years and some rom devs made it not work on purpose.

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[Q] How to use /mnt/emmc/ (external sd card) for applications?

As you know in Sgs 2 there are internal storage, sd card (also built in phone) and additionaly external sd card slot. I would like to use this external one as location to move installed apps. There is option in application manager to move some apps to sd card but to the one built in, not the external. I have 32GB external card while built sd card has now only 100 MB free space and I can't download data for installed apps.
How to use external card for apps installation or moving some already installed apps on it?
Your internalSD is part of your phone where as the externalSD is not .You can backup apps to the externalSD but thats all.If you pass working apps to the externalSD you take them out of the system and so out of the phone and they will stop working.That is why there is only the option to move apps to SD (internal).
there is an additional option in the android system, to set a partition for your apps on external SD, you cant do this with Stock Rom anyway, but no idea on SGS2, any custom rom has offered this option so far.... this partition called "sd-ext" see the definition below:
"This is not a standard Android partition, but has become popular in the custom ROM scene. It is basically an additional partition on your SD card that acts as the /data partition when used with certain ROMs that have special features called APP2SD+ or data2ext enabled. It is especially useful on devices with little internal memory allotted to the /data partition. Thus, users who want to install more programs than the internal memory allows can make this partition and use it with a custom ROM that supports this feature, to get additional storage for installing their apps. Wiping this partition is essentially the same as wiping the /data partition – you lose your contacts, SMS, market apps and settings."
Ok, so any idea about such like ROMs or any manual/instruction thread?

Internal sd or external sd?

Hi to everyone,
I have 16 GB version of sgs 2 and it shows I have 11.5 GB free space as internal and 8GB free space as external and it is ok for me. What I dont understand is when I download apps from Google Play does it install to internal sd ? ( 11.5 GB ) because when I looked at storage usage my space becoming less from rom side which I have 1.2 GB free space. How can I install all apps to internal sd ?
thanks for your help
When you download an app from Google Play, it will go to your internal storage. If you want, you can move it to your internal SD card by settings-apps-all-yourApp-move to SD (simplest way).
If you want to move it to the external sd card, use apps such as Link2Sd (on market), which needs root access.
gb.yolo said:
When you download an app from Google Play, it will go to your internal storage. If you want, you can move it to your internal SD card by settings-apps-all-yourApp-move to SD (simplest way).
If you want to move it to the external sd card, use apps such as Link2Sd (on market)
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Actually what I want is to use internal SD because I have 16 gb free and I dont want to install apps to my external sd card because when I unplug it I wont have chance to use apps since it is installed sd card beyond of it I wanna use my sd card just for my photos and some musics. So should I take a rest if it will install apps directly to internal sd?
edit : what is the reason that when I install apps total space 1.97 gb decreases? if I am installing apps to internal storage where it has 11.5 gb ?
Storage available for applications
Hi all,
I have an Sii gt-i9100g running ICS 4.03 (non-rooted).
Recently I've been getting an error when applications try to update: "Application cannot be installed in the default install location".
So I checked my phone storage.
phone memory: 1.97Gb
Applications: 647mb
Free: 247mb
USB storage has about 10.5Gb available.
I uninstalled a few applications I didn't need on a regular basis and then the phone was able to update the installed applications successfully.
I went in to application management and there's no option to move the installed applications to USB storage (I don't have an external SD card)
So this raises a few concerns:
1: How come there's a mystery 1.1 gigabytes that isn't accounted for in the phone storage? I thought all of Android ICS was stored in that missing 4GB of USB storage memory...
2: If the phone doesn't allow further installations to phone memory when there's only about 200mb available, and if the phone has reserved 1.1 gigabytes for some hidden purpose, then is it true that without buying an SD card, we only really have about 700MB available for applications?!
3: Why isn't the option to move applications to USB storage available under ICS? I believe this was available in Gingerbread.
Anyway I could be wrong with all of this, I'm new to the SII, but if its the case that this supposedly 16GB device only truly has 700MB available for apps without an External SD card, then I'm gonna be pretty angry.
This is from another forum and same problem like mine
benveq said:
Storage available for applications
Hi all,
I have an Sii gt-i9100g running ICS 4.03 (non-rooted).
Recently I've been getting an error when applications try to update: "Application cannot be installed in the default install location".
So I checked my phone storage.
phone memory: 1.97Gb
Applications: 647mb
Free: 247mb
USB storage has about 10.5Gb available.
I uninstalled a few applications I didn't need on a regular basis and then the phone was able to update the installed applications successfully.
I went in to application management and there's no option to move the installed applications to USB storage (I don't have an external SD card)
So this raises a few concerns:
1: How come there's a mystery 1.1 gigabytes that isn't accounted for in the phone storage? I thought all of Android ICS was stored in that missing 4GB of USB storage memory...
2: If the phone doesn't allow further installations to phone memory when there's only about 200mb available, and if the phone has reserved 1.1 gigabytes for some hidden purpose, then is it true that without buying an SD card, we only really have about 700MB available for applications?!
3: Why isn't the option to move applications to USB storage available under ICS? I believe this was available in Gingerbread.
Anyway I could be wrong with all of this, I'm new to the SII, but if its the case that this supposedly 16GB device only truly has 700MB available for apps without an External SD card, then I'm gonna be pretty angry.
This is from another forum and same problem like mine
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benveq said:
Hi to everyone,
I have 16 GB version of sgs 2 and it shows I have 11.5 GB free space as internal and 8GB free space as external and it is ok for me. What I dont understand is when I download apps from Google Play does it install to internal sd ? ( 11.5 GB ) because when I looked at storage usage my space becoming less from rom side which I have 1.2 GB free space. How can I install all apps to internal sd ?
thanks for your help
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Let me explain somethings you guys have failed to understand (the beginner's way):
1.Your galaxy SII has 16Gig of inbuilt memory
2. the 16G was partitioned by Samsung into 2.
3. First partition is for System (1.97Gig), while the second partition is for Storage (11.49Gig).
4. Apps are installed by default into the System (reserved) partition (1.97)
5. System partition contains preinstalled system apps and media content + the apps you installed.
- therefore, even if you are just opening your phone for the first time, some part of the 1.97Gig will be used up significantly
6. When you connect your phone to PC, only your Second partition (11.49G), is mounted so that you can transfer files to your phone. That's why this storage is often referred to as Internal SD.
7. Apps are installed on the System partition by default for faster loading.
8. Even though apps are installed by default on the system (reserved) partition, some of the apps can also be moved to the internal SD.
This can be achieved in two ways:
a) without installing app:
- Goto Settings > Apps > select app of your choice, especially the big ones, > Select Move to SD card
b)with third-party apps:
Apps like titanium backup, app2SD etc can move any app to your SD.
Note:
1. Moving Launchers and Widgets to SD will break their function, so do not do this
2. this process can be necessary when you run out of space on System (reserved) partition.
9. Your MicroSD card is referred to as External SD
If you have more questions, let me know
Jokesy said:
Let me explain somethings you guys have failed to understand (the beginner's way):
1.Your galaxy SII has 16Gig of inbuilt memory
2. the 16G was partitioned by Samsung into 2.
3. First partition is for System (1.97Gig), while the second partition is for Storage (11.49Gig).
4. Apps are installed by default into the System (reserved) partition (1.97)
5. System partition contains preinstalled system apps and media content + the apps you installed.
- therefore, even if you are just opening your phone for the first time, some part of the 1.97Gig will be used up significantly
6. When you connect your phone to PC, only your Second partition (11.49G), is mounted so that you can transfer files to your phone. That's why this storage is often referred to as Internal SD.
7. Apps are installed on the System partition by default for faster loading.
8. Even though apps are installed by default on the system (reserved) partition, some of the apps can also be moved to the internal SD.
This can be achieved in two ways:
a) without installing app:
- Goto Settings > Apps > select app of your choice, especially the big ones, > Select Move to SD card
b)with third-party apps:
Apps like titanium backup, app2SD etc can move any app to your SD.
Note:
1. Moving Launchers and Widgets to SD will break their function, so do not do this
2. this process can be necessary when you run out of space on System (reserved) partition.
9. Your MicroSD card is referred to as External SD
If you have more questions, let me know
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Thanks for detailed explanations but What if I dont have an external minisd card and I want to use 11.5 gb of internal sd ? For example HTC One X has built in 32 gb space and it doesnt have any sd card slot right? so they use internal sd for everything like in iphone ?
I found a topic at xda to change usage like this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846115
can you look at this ?
benveq said:
Thanks for detailed explanations but What if I dont have an external minisd card and I want to use 11.5 gb of internal sd ? For example HTC One X has built in 32 gb space and it doesnt have any sd card slot right? so they use internal sd for everything like in iphone ?
I found a topic at xda to change usage like this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846115
can you look at this ?
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1. The HTC will still have a system reserved partition.
2. Yes, you can use the internal SD.
check my previous post, I'd already explained how to move apps to Sd (internal)
If you understand ADB, you can install apps directly to SD card, but that's a little advance
this app (free) makes moving Application to SD very easy
Jokesy said:
1. The HTC will still have a system reserved partition.
2. Yes, you can use the internal SD.
check my previous post, I'd already explained how to move apps to Sd (internal)
If you understand ADB, you can install apps directly to SD card, but that's a little advance
this app (free) makes moving Application to SD very easy
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Well, I know that app on Google but it only works if you have external sd card. I dont have it and I wanna use internal 11 GB free space as sd card.to install all apps however when I install apps it doesnt use 16gb part it uses 2 GB rom side and now I have 600Mb free space although I can use 11GB. But I found this on google
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNvZGxhYi5pbnQyZXh0Il0
I will try this one
benveq said:
Well, I know that app on Google but it only works if you have external sd card. I dont have it and I wanna use internal 11 GB free space as sd card.to install all apps however when I install apps it doesnt use 16gb part it uses 2 GB rom side and now I have 600Mb free space although I can use 11GB. But I found this on google
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNvZGxhYi5pbnQyZXh0Il0
I will try this one
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Good
Jokesy said:
Let me explain somethings you guys have failed to understand (the beginner's way):
1.Your galaxy SII has 16Gig of inbuilt memory
2. the 16G was partitioned by Samsung into 2.
3. First partition is for System (1.97Gig), while the second partition is for Storage (11.49Gig).
4. Apps are installed by default into the System (reserved) partition (1.97)
5. System partition contains preinstalled system apps and media content + the apps you installed.
- therefore, even if you are just opening your phone for the first time, some part of the 1.97Gig will be used up significantly
6. When you connect your phone to PC, only your Second partition (11.49G), is mounted so that you can transfer files to your phone. That's why this storage is often referred to as Internal SD.
7. Apps are installed on the System partition by default for faster loading.
8. Even though apps are installed by default on the system (reserved) partition, some of the apps can also be moved to the internal SD.
This can be achieved in two ways:
a) without installing app:
- Goto Settings > Apps > select app of your choice, especially the big ones, > Select Move to SD card
b)with third-party apps:
Apps like titanium backup, app2SD etc can move any app to your SD.
Note:
1. Moving Launchers and Widgets to SD will break their function, so do not do this
2. this process can be necessary when you run out of space on System (reserved) partition.
9. Your MicroSD card is referred to as External SD
If you have more questions, let me know
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Hi Jokesy,
I've got a problem.
After I moved some apps to SD Card (using Link2SD or Titanium Backup), they are gone from home screen, app drawer list,and even in the list of installed apps they still missing. However, the files are still in disk but for some reasons, the OS cant detect them.
They only came back (to home screen and app drawer) after I perform Hot Boot.
Could you please explain why that was happening?
And how to avoid that problem?
I am using 4.1.2 Wanamlite XWLSW and stock kernel.
Thanks,
undead_assault said:
Hi Jokesy,
I've got a problem.
After I moved some apps to SD Card (using Link2SD or Titanium Backup), they are gone from home screen, app drawer list,and even in the list of installed apps they still missing. However, the files are still in disk but for some reasons, the OS cant detect them.
They only came back (to home screen and app drawer) after I perform Hot Boot.
Could you please explain why that was happening?
And how to avoid that problem?
I am using 4.1.2 Wanamlite XWLSW and stock kernel.
Thanks,
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Which launcher/homescreen launcher are you using?
Instead of hot boot, just go to options and restart your homescreen launcher if it's supported.
Jokesy said:
Which launcher/homescreen launcher are you using?
Instead of hot boot, just go to options and restart your homescreen launcher if it's supported.
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hmmm, I'm using TouchWiz Launcher. I dont think it was caused by launcher, because I checked my application list in Titanium Backup when I rebooted normally, the missing apps were listed as uninstalled.
For some reasons, apps that moved to SD Card, only installed (or loaded) if I reboot using Hot Boot
undead_assault said:
hmmm, I'm using TouchWiz Launcher. I dont think it was caused by launcher, because I checked my application list in Titanium Backup when I rebooted normally, the missing apps were listed as uninstalled.
For some reasons, apps that moved to SD Card, only installed (or loaded) if I reboot using Hot Boot
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That's weird. Try moving the apps to SD using Titanium backup, also try another launcher e.g Holo or Nova launcher and see what happens.
Jokesy said:
That's weird. Try moving the apps to SD using Titanium backup, also try another launcher e.g Holo or Nova launcher and see what happens.
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I tried using Link2SD and Titanium Backup, but after reboot normally, they are still gone. I tried Smart Launcher, but they stil didnt appear. Because they were listed as uninstalled. The files are there, but the system doesnt load them. Must still do hot reboot first before the system loads them.
I guess I'll take 1 example for disappearing app, this information taken from Link2SD (after Hot Boot):
Temple Run 2 Version 1.2.1 (on SD Card)
http://i.imgur.com/A9FHzpi.png
What actually Hot Boot does and normal reboot does not?

[Q] external_sd folder And external SD card

Hi all!
I have recently brought an 16GB External SD card for my SGSII, to store my Titanium Backups. I found the external_sd folder in the internal sd card, and thought that it was the External SD card, so i placed all my backups there. But just recently it seems like i have run out of space on the phone, so i can't update some of my apps. I started deleting a lot of photos and videos from my phone and cleared 2.5GB, but i still can't update some of my apps. I began looking through my folders, and noticed that i also have an External SD card partition on my phone. The same one i see when the phone is connected to the pc. In it i can see a Clockwork Recovery folder containing my ROM backups. So i began wondering if the external_sd folder is actually located on the phone and not in the External SD card. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, when i open the Storage (i think that's what it's called) section in the settings on CM10, and noticed that i have 2 Internal Storage sections, one of them has only App data, and the other has photos, apps, music etc. and a SD Card section, with 6.64GB storage left. Does anyone know why is there is 2 Internal Storage sections?
Thank you in advance!
/gammarik
As far as I know the "external_sd" is your removable external SD card. For some inexplicable reason it mounts as a sub-directory from the internal SD card, but it is definitely your removable external SD card.
I have a feeling that Jellybean brings a change and the external SD card mounts in a different way to ICS. I had only a brief experience of this when I played with the leaked ROM but I have reverted to ICS because of battery drain problems.
Your internal memory is partitioned with about 500MB for the system ROM, and 2GB reserved for app installations. Once this fills to around 85-90% you'll begin hitting problems with insufficient storage space errors. If you move apps to SD then this will make use of the data partition of your internal memory (about 12GB available to user on a 16GB device).
I'm running JB (Rootbox 3.2). I set the target path as /extSdCard/Titanium Backup in Preferences for it to work.
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Mr Anderson said:
As far as I know the "external_sd" is your removable external SD card. For some inexplicable reason it mounts as a sub-directory from the internal SD card, but it is definitely your removable external SD card.
I have a feeling that Jellybean brings a change and the external SD card mounts in a different way to ICS. I had only a brief experience of this when I played with the leaked ROM but I have reverted to ICS because of battery drain problems.
Your internal memory is partitioned with about 500MB for the system ROM, and 2GB reserved for app installations. Once this fills to around 85-90% you'll begin hitting problems with insufficient storage space errors. If you move apps to SD then this will make use of the data partition of your internal memory (about 12GB available to user on a 16GB device).
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So i should move my apps from the App reserved partition to the main storage partition? Or the external SD card? And how do i do that? Sorry for noob questions, i am not too much into how Android works
I don't think you can move apps to external SD card.
Go to settings -> applications and you'll see your apps listed with information about their size. Select one, and you should see a button "Move to SD card". If this is greyed out then the app doesn't support operation from the SD card, but for many you can press the button and it will move the app for you.
The interface in settings isn't the best - I use ZDBox which is a free utility tool available from the Play Store with several useful functions, including an improved "App to SD" UI which makes it easier to see what is going on.
Be careful with widget apps and others that interact with OS functionality as these often don't play happy if moved to SD card.
in your internal memory there is a folder call externel_sd ok leave it coz you still in your internal memory and go search your external sd card memory it named extSdCard or emmc
Also, when i open the Storage (i think that's what it's called) section in the settings on CM10, and noticed that i have 2 Internal Storage sections, one of them has only App data, and the other has photos, apps, music etc. and a SD Card section, with 6.64GB storage left. Does anyone know why is there is 2 Internal Storage sections?
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1st internal is /data, 2nd internal is /storage/sdcard0 (your internal 11GB memory).

Swapping Internal and External SD Card?

See question. 2 and 9 gb of space is not cutting it for me with a lot of programs not allowing you to move stuff to the external sd card. Is there a way that works for the amaze to move data to the external sd card?
Diogenes5 said:
See question. 2 and 9 gb of space is not cutting it for me with a lot of programs not allowing you to move stuff to the external sd card. Is there a way that works for the amaze to move data to the external sd card?
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you can use almost any file manager with root premissons or not in order to move stuff from your internal storage to your sd card.. the only issue is you have to be careful of what you move because not every app will function properly if moved to external storage.. i think titanium backup also allows you to batch move apps to the phones internal storage (not system storage that's the 2gb)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD&hl=en
link2SD, move applications to SD card even if it doesn't allow to (it's built-in to ROMS for phones with smaler internal memory, like my low-end Optimus T with 150MB internal)
however, the speed of the SD card is generally slower than internal memory... just a small warning
another option would be the app 'gl to sd' (or something similar to that).
its free and its main use is to save the gameloft game data to your external sdcard. ive tried it and it works with the games. i do believe it'll allow you to move other app data as well.

[Q] Internal Storage-Internal SD card

Hello
I have a galaxy s2 and i wonder what is the difference between internal storage and internal SD card.
In the internal storage i see only apps are installed
and in the internal SD card i have only music photos and others.
it already happened to me that i tried to download an app from the google play and i did not have enough space
is there a way to move my apps from Internal storage to Internal SD card?
(i do not have an external sd card) and if you dont understand what i mean i can upload a screenshot.
thank you
Hello,
Yes, internal storage (or system storage in my phone) is where all the apps are installed.
And internal SD card (known better as internal storage) is where photos, videos etc etc are stored.
This is the only thing i know..
About the moving of apps, i recommend you go to settings -> applications and to the app you want to move and check if you actually can move it. (yes, there's an option to move that app to Sd card) My gues it wont since you need an external storage (or known as SD CARD) if you want to move apps.
If you can't install apps from google play, there are mostly two explanations:
1. Actually insufficient storage. To prevent this, free up memory from system storage by deleting apps/games etc.
2. .odex file causes the erroe. To prevent this, (you need to be rooted) goto /data/app in file manager and find <The app you want to install from google play>.odex
Eg. for second alternative.
If you want to install Swiftkey but get an error. Goto /data/app and delete swiftkey.odex
Internal storage, different names
orr77746 said:
Hello
I have a galaxy s2 and i wonder what is the difference between internal storage and internal SD card.
In the internal storage i see only apps are installed
and in the internal SD card i have only music photos and others.
it already happened to me that i tried to download an app from the google play and i did not have enough space
is there a way to move my apps from Internal storage to Internal SD card?
(i do not have an external sd card) and if you dont understand what i mean i can upload a screenshot.
thank you
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There the same thing. You can verify by checking the size of the two & the contents to see if they show the same thing.
It would be helpful to know what version of Android your running since this affects how things are displayed.
To find that information open press the menu or home button (bottom left),
Settings
at the very bottom is "About Device"
Look for Android Version
Within most versions of Android (I have 4.1.2 in front of me) what is called "sdcard" or "internal storage" or "internal sdcard" is actually a partition of the device's total internal storage. Unless you are flashing ROMs or running root, you won't see these other paritions.
The internal storage or sdcard is also called sdcard0 or /storage/sdcard0 depending on your version of Android.
The physical sdcard (external storage) is sometimes called /emmc or /extSdCard In later versions you can also get to it as /storage/sdcard1
Hope that helps
Ed
i am running android 4.0.4
and i understand that i cant move apps to there..
i will just buy an external SD card
you helped me alot
Thanks everybody!!

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