Guys,
So I'll be spending three months abroad, and likely to travel a fair bit for my job in the next few years. I'd like to get myself a dual-sim phone - one sim with my current home phone number, the other for the US sim (or wherever I go). I've been looking at Xiaomi phones for a while now, and the RN3 SnapDragon is the best value, I would think.
My current phone is a Nexus 5X - I bought it because I love stock android. For me, MIUI is an absolute non-starter. (I've also got an HTC One M8, and tried MIUI 7 and 8 on it - can't stand it.) So I'd have to rely on custom ROMs.
Hence my question : Are any of the N ROMs on Kate stable for daily, dual-sim use? I've gotten used to N on my Nexus and would find it hard to go back to MM (but I could if needed). I mostly use my phone as a communications node (calls, texts), as a web browser, and as a music player in my car via BT.
Thanks much!
Camera Bugs and Flashlight are the most popular issues encountered in N ROMs, some apps crashing and like that. So, in my opinion, I'd stick with MM ROMs for now. I'm using the Lineage OS 13.0 ROM as my daily driver.
I'm using Resurrection remix for the last 4 days and since then no reboot was even needed, so it seems stable for me. There are small bugs, like the flashlight bug and disappearing battery information from the statusbar (this may be RR specific bug), but for me it's no big deal.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Pretty much stable for me. The main problem are the incompatible camera HAL driver. But it's not big deal. Just flashlight toogle must pressed 2-3 times for turn on sometimes, and random crash on camera. It can be fixed by flashing google camera from OpenGapps.
Yes, use last cm official nightly. I'm using from 2 months without any issue
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Don't flash any custom kernel or anything
OK - so no crashes with Google Camera? Other than that (and the flashlight toggle), pretty stable on CM14.1? (And by CM, I assume you mean Lineage?)
Okay, so BabyTedhu said Google Camera works, so I flashed CM 14.1 with Stock GAPPS (Google Camera replaces Stock AOSP), is it by default that you can't save through SD card? There's no option to save thru SD card.
SilverJS said:
OK - so no crashes with Google Camera? Other than that (and the flashlight toggle), pretty stable on CM14.1? (And by CM, I assume you mean Lineage?)
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Yes
exce1ia said:
Okay, so BabyTedhu said Google Camera works, so I flashed CM 14.1 with Stock GAPPS (Google Camera replaces Stock AOSP), is it by default that you can't save through SD card? There's no option to save thru SD card.
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There's no option to save through sd card. It's set by google.
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Try nitrogen os rom. Most stable nougat for now. Camera and fp works fine with stock kernel
Nougat is pretty much stable already, but I would recommend getting a kenzo over a kate so that you can flash custom software easily. Also, it is slightly easier to find accesories for the kenzo.
Ya nitrogen os has no camera bug it is stable 99%. As compared to other Android 7 roms
Using RR nightly, Smooth & rare bugs which mentioned earlier.
Any Other better ROM than this? Nitrogen vs RR ? Which is best ?
Even Slim ROM shows stable build. Any EXP. on this ?
OK, awesome. Good to know. I wasn't tracking Nitrogen OS, thanks to whoever pointed that out. I'm a huge fan of the Slim series in general, really hoping that it'll be good to go on RN3 soon.
Thanks to everyone for the inputs! I was scared for a bit that I'd have to invest in a Mi5 (their Nougat ROMs seemed to be pretty stable, from what I could read), but glad to know I won't have to. This is just for a travel phone anyway, and the RN3 would be fine for that.
Cheers!
Go for Redmi note 3 pro(kenzo) as development for this model is absolutely amazing. Don't go for the (kate) as it's very difficult to mod that device and also can't flash custom ROM easily on it.
But he is getting the kate since he would be travelling a lot. So those extra bands might help him??
Well - my understanding is Kate only has one additional band (20) which wouldn't even be used in the States (where I'd do 60-70% of my travel). The regular Kenzo is still a fair bit better than most traditional Xiaomi phones in terms of LTE band availability. But honestly, LTE band availability is not a big deal to me. Any Xiaomi phone would be fine - I just talk/text, and do light web surfing when I'm using cell data. Most of my heavy lifting happens when I'm home or on a WiFi connection.
AFAIK, you can use Kenzo ROMs with Kate easily. Just flash Kate firmware-update folder.
Oh really?!? That makes a big difference then. But what do you mean : "Just flash Kate firmware-update folder"?
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Oh really?!? That makes a big difference then. But what do you mean : "Just flash Kate firmware-update folder"?
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MIUI ROMs contain a folder with firmware for the base band. That's the "firmware-update" folder I'm talking about. There are threads in this forum which provide Kate firmware to replace in Kenzo ROMs.
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hi guys,planning on buying the redmi note 3-snapdragon variant(kenzo,if im right).so is there any stable cm based rom with all the hardware working (ril-3G data,camera -photo& video-- being my priority),xposed compatability is imp too for ui tweaks.i dont mind even if its just lollipop,just want to have the lighter cm based rom,aosp would be too bland for me.hoping for advice frm rn3-sd users,in fact i wanted mi max but development seems to be slow for that device,plz pour in with your advices
I think you can go for it. I am using this devices since the release and I am very happy with the development.
it has official CM
If you want VoLTE you can go for AOSP
I have one and everything works perfectly on CM13 with the front camera fix flashed and Radon Kernel. I love it
You can definitely buy this phone. Most of the cm13 based roms have all the features working, also there's a huge choice between custom roms. And of course xposed is working very well.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Correct. If you don't care for Volte, almost most of the custom roms are stable enough to use it as daily driver. Volte is still not supported in most of the custom roms like CM13. CM14 supports it but it's WIP rom right now.
thank you very much for the input friends,it means a lot to me.i was going thru the respective rom threads(cm13,rr) some users were complaining abt camera,fp sensor,settings fc...something abt newer rn3 having slightly diff h/w and causing problems.anything in particular that i should be watching out for?...i just ordered 32gb ver of rn3 frm amazon india,its pending dispatch.ever since its release i wanted to get one..although seeing some user complaints i was wondering if i made the right decision...thats why i was in such a rush
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thank you very much for the input friends,it means a lot to me.i was going thru the respective rom threads(cm13,rr) some users were complaining abt camera,fp sensor,settings fc...something abt newer rn3 having slightly diff h/w and causing problems.anything in particular that i should be watching out for?...i just ordered 32gb ver of rn3 frm amazon india,its pending dispatch.ever since its release i wanted to get one..although seeing some user complaints i was wondering if i made the right decision...thats why i was in such a rush
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Well, they are right. All the problems you've mentioned here do exist, but....
As i can see you can use xda search pretty well, and if such a problem occurs you can easily find a way to fix it.
So don't worry ?
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Hello all
Am planning to buy it soon and wondering which version should I get
Kenzo or Kate?
I had nexus 4 since I got into smartphones.
I care about having last miui version and high screen on time
Thank you everyone
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Hello all
Am planning to buy it soon and wondering which version should I get
Kenzo or Kate?
I had nexus 4 since I got into smartphones.
I care about having last miui version and high screen on time
Thank you everyone
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Well, in this case both of these versions will be a great choice, with small advantage to Kenzo maybe (it sometimes gets miui update first).
You should consider some other things before buying Kenzo or Kate.
1) do you need lte-800mhz (if yes, pick kate)
2) do you want to flash custom roms (pick kenzo)
3) do you want to have some protection case (if yes, pick Kenzo - Kate is a bit higher)
Those are the main differences. Battery life will be the same, since they have same specs.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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Well, in this case both of these versions will be a great choice, with small advantage to Kenzo maybe (it sometimes gets miui update first).
You should consider some other things before buying Kenzo or Kate.
1) do you need lte-800mhz (if yes, pick kate)
2) do you want to flash custom roms (pick kenzo)
3) do you want to have some protection case (if yes, pick Kenzo - Kate is a bit higher)
Those are the main differences. Battery life will be the same, since they have same specs.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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Thank you mate I guess I don't really care about the lte.
I care more about faster updates and customization.
lolrko said:
Hello all
Am planning to buy it soon and wondering which version should I get
Kenzo or Kate?
I had nexus 4 since I got into smartphones.
I care about having last miui version and high screen on time
Thank you everyone
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Kate, forget about kenzo.
Better reception, fcp fingerprint (new kenzo has goodfix with custom ROM issues), most tpu cases fit just fine.
I'm using psy man's cm14.1 firmware and both cm14.1 and cm13 work perfectly fine with no issues whatsoever, without changing firmware.
Edit: better reception as in better signal overall, I'm getting LTE where with kenzo I barley got 3g working.
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Kate, forget about kenzo.
Better reception, fcp fingerprint (new kenzo has goodfix with custom ROM issues), most tpu cases fit just fine.
I'm using psy man's cm14.1 firmware and both cm14.1 and cm13 work perfectly fine with no issues whatsoever, without changing firmware.
Edit: better reception as in better signal overall, I'm getting LTE where with kenzo I barley got 3g working.
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So all new kate are better than new kenzo regarding the fingerprint. But updates wise what about ota updates?
It's not worth getting a Kate if you have no need for B20, you can easily get Goodix working with a single patch. You'll be able to get Kenzo a bit cheaper.
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So all new kate are better than new kenzo regarding the fingerprint. But updates wise what about ota updates?
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MIUI updates are all the same, and even all cm Roms are the same.
MIUI updates are all the same - mostly, yes
all cm Roms are the same - yes, but availability of Kate custom roms is much worse.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Hi all,
I'am quite happy with my Redmi Note 3 Pro SE (Kate).
And Miui is also quite good. Love the battery life.
However,
I run the Global Beta rom weekly, and the version is 7.6.8.
Dating back from June 2017. And it doesn't look like there will be an update any time soon.
So.... I'am looking for an other rom.
But what one to choose?
LineageOS 14.1?
Nitrogen OS?
ResurrectionRemix 5.8.x?
CarbonRom?
ViperOS?
Or... Wait and stay on Miui?
What is important to me.
Stable
Battery friendly
Good Bluetooth (have android wear watch (Huawei Watch) and bt headphones (MDR-1000X))
Good GPS (Sygic)
Good and stable Camera
Good Music
SD card (128GB Samsung Evo+) should work perfectly
4G (LTE) should work stable and fast
Voice recording (in-call)
And ofcourse calls should be good and stable
I don't do gaming, so no interests there.
Please,
Advice me in a Rom to take, and explain why that rom instead of an other rom.
Thanks in advance.
Use Nexus Experience ROM with Radon kernel with performance settings.
For better music use shox audio mod for our device.
For good camera use the HDR and 60fps canera which is recently ported.
Enjoy!
NX ROM with Radon kernel is great (still using Marshmallow though, because of no Xposed on Nougat).
http://www.nxrom.us/redminote3pro.html
@deepjyoti30 Which ported camera? Do you have a link?
This one
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3/themes/google-camera-hdr-t3656174
Uploaded today. Pretty awesome. Bdw i think xposed for night is out now.
any one can tell me how to install miui 11 gsi on mi a3?
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any one can tell me how to install miui 11 gsi on mi a3?
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aslo badly need miui on my mi a3
It is literally known as meme-ui the whole Android community gives out about it, it is a meme for how bad it is.
Your better off going with an aosp rom as your privacy and data will be safe, Android one just gives it all to Google aswel.
Read up about these things first don't just go blindly flashing stuff coz it's "cool".
Plus it's a lot heavier than an aosp rom which will eat ram and battery on the device and probably result in a decrease in performance.
What is the reasoning behind wanting miui so much? Just out of curiosity.
Is there any way to install gsi on mi a3? tried to install resurrection remix through fastboot in "A" slot (fastboot flash system system.img) but phone doesn't boot.
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It is literally known as meme-ui the whole Android community gives out about it, it is a meme for how bad it is.
Your better off going with an aosp rom as your privacy and data will be safe, Android one just gives it all to Google aswel.
Read up about these things first don't just go blindly flashing stuff coz it's "cool".
Plus it's a lot heavier than an aosp rom which will eat ram and battery on the device and probably result in a decrease in performance.
What is the reasoning behind wanting miui so much? Just out of curiosity.
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i am using miui from very first of my phone. and after buying mi a3 i just stuck into minimal feature of android one .. also i need to get back app locker, privacy locker, screen recoder with internal audio, real full screen gesture dark mode and many mode without using any 3rd party app
Why did you buy the A3 in the first place? CC9e is identical in specs but with MIUI, I'd buy this phone because of Android One like the most of us.
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Why did you buy the A3 in the first place? CC9e is identical in specs but with MIUI, I'd buy this phone because of Android One like the most of us.
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moreover, CC9e has FullHD+ 1080p screen, unlike A3.
3 yars since A1 was released, and people are still buying Android One devices to install miui there...
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3 yars since A1 was released, and people are still buying Android One devices to install miui there...
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???? Lol
ne_toy said:
moreover, CC9e has FullHD+ 1080p screen, unlike A3.
3 yars since A1 was released, and people are still buying Android One devices to install miui there...
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nope the cc9e is also 720p. the cc9 is indeed fhd (aka mi 9 lite)
yes, such a shame... and makes no sense, the android one support does add to the price the phones so why... is a big mistery for me too... not to mention variety, there's countkess more miui phones to choose from
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It is literally known as meme-ui the whole Android community gives out about it, it is a meme for how bad it is.
Your better off going with an aosp rom as your privacy and data will be safe, Android one just gives it all to Google aswel.
Read up about these things first don't just go blindly flashing stuff coz it's "cool".
Plus it's a lot heavier than an aosp rom which will eat ram and battery on the device and probably result in a decrease in performance.
What is the reasoning behind wanting miui so much? Just out of curiosity.
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What you are saying used to be true.
I hated Miui when I first tried it in 2017. Recent Global versions of Miui is fantastic, I prefer using the customized Xiaomi/EU rom.
AOSP has its merits, but the Xiaomi Meme thing is honestly outdated and frankly silly.
and after so many jokes and history classes, and explanations of the boy who works at bestbuy, is there any way to use MIUI in the A3?
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i am using miui from very first of my phone. and after buying mi a3 i just stuck into minimal feature of android one .. also i need to get back app locker, privacy locker, screen recoder with internal audio, real full screen gesture dark mode and many mode without using any 3rd party app
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...Second space
Record calls (without using any 3rd party app)
etc, etc, etc
What's so bad on using 3rd party apps to have those feature? I for one have zero interest in call recorder, screen recorder, app lock, second space or any of the MIUI apps and I'm glad that these, for me useless apps are not part of the system. That's why I always choose clean Android. If you know that you need such features, well, buy a phone with MIUI..? Even if you somehow manage to boot MIUI on A3, it won't support OTA updates and most probably some of the essential features won't work (e.g. FP sensor).
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What's so bad on using 3rd party apps to have those feature? I for one have zero interest in call recorder, screen recorder, app lock, second space or any of the MIUI apps and I'm glad that these, for me useless apps are not part of the system. That's why I always choose clean Android. If you know that you need such features, well, buy a phone with MIUI..? Even if you somehow manage to boot MIUI on A3, it won't support OTA updates and most probably some of the essential features won't work (e.g. FP sensor).
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If Mi CC9e had a global MIUI (not English / Chinese only), there would be no such conversation. But since there are a lot of people who like MIUI more than Android Stock, there are a lot of people looking for MIUI for the Mi A3!
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If Mi CC9e had a global MIUI (not English / Chinese only), there would be no such conversation. But since there are a lot of people who like MIUI more than Android Stock, there are a lot of people looking for MIUI for the Mi A3!
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Xiaomi has 4 phones with Android One and at least 20 with MIUI. A3 is nothing special (except the Android One program), why on Earth would you choose it over any other phone with fully supported MIUI out of the box? Just to complain that you miss things which are deliberately not present?
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...A3 is nothing special ...
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A3 is nothing special? Tell me one smartphone with a screen less than 6 inches (for me very important) and a decent battery (over 4000 mAh). In addition it has a good / excellent camera.
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A3 is nothing special? Tell me one smartphone with a screen less than 6 inches (for me very important) and a decent battery (over 4000 mAh). In addition it has a good / excellent camera.
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I am not familiar with MIUI phones as I find zero interest in them. If there is no such phone, I guess you need to make a compromise somewhere.
Most recent phones have excellent camera with gcam mod.
Guys, MIUI has its benefits, but stock android is not that bad either. I just love stock android.
But it seems many people are regretting buying this phone. Maybe someone will port MIUI for A3 someday, meanwhile you can follow the video shared by @ozankardes, it looks promising. The video is not in English, but I guess you can pickup the important bits easily. Good luck!
I tried the MIUI ROM in the video. it work.
ROM belongs to MI CC9e. Only 2 languages. English & Chinese. You can use morelocale2.
-No Google apps.
-Auto brightness is not stable.
-Fingerprints don't work.
Everything works except what those.
I tried a few more A/B GSI roms (Flyme 8, MIUI 11). None of them worked. Maybe only will work GSI A roms I don't know. We need to do more trials.
What are your thoughts on the device os? Do you think it is good overall and offers good performance and stability? Or would it be better to use a custom rom with it?
I am happy with the global rom, except for a few areas.
1. USB C to 3.5mm adapter is quiet, fixed with a command (need root)
2. Camera's autofocus is bad in some scenarios
The CN rom is filled with the worst kind of bloatware. Every app wants to track your usage, including the realme UI apps. If I remember it correctly, even calculator or some other most basic app requested permissions
Despite global Rom being cleaner, there were still a few bloatware apps that I had to remove like HeyTap Cloud or Quick Device Connect among others.
So to answer your question, stock Rom is good enough but needs a bit of tweaking.
I hope the eu rom is the same as the global rom, but to summarize, the stock rom is good if you can tweak it with root. Am I right?
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What are your thoughts on the device os? Do you think it is good overall and offers good performance and stability? Or would it be better to use a custom rom with it?
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Love it.
Iam ex-MIUI user, since 2017 (Redmi 4x, Redmi 5, Mi Mix 2, Mix 2s, Mi 8, Mi 9, Mi 10,...) , started with MIUI 7 or 8 global (i guess), later custom MIUIos roms (EU project, without bloatware, better optimization, different ram management, etc), and this is my first phone without MIUI. I was very worried, but for nothing.
I have EU non-root version, bloatware and google apps - done in 5 minutes without complications, OS is fast, pure, without bugs and any similar problems (team MIUI knows...), after month iam very satisfied.
Consider your use case and the budget. I just browse web and instant message 80% of the time.
Realme seems to be good with OTA updates although Global/EU versions get much slower rollout.
Hardware specs are great.
OS is good, and Global/EU ROM is the closest to stock Google experience.
The conclusion is that the hardware is not the limitation, so all the power is in the user hands.
If you want something that works just right out of the box and has greater community support with comparable specs, you'd probably have to look at Galaxy S22 at twice the price or others.
Other good contender is Realme GT Neo 3. Minor trade-offs here and there.
Or if you only care about camera, Realme 9 Pro+ could be a good option too.
All above have IMX766 camera sensor, same as GT 2 Pro.
If you are looking at GT 2 Pro, consider getting CN version and flashing Global.
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Consider your use case and the budget. I just browse web and instant message 80% of the time.
Realme seems to be good with OTA updates although Global/EU versions get much slower rollout.
Hardware specs are great.
OS is good, and Global/EU ROM is the closest to stock Google experience.
The conclusion is that the hardware is not the limitation, so all the power is in the user hands.
If you want something that works just right out of the box and has greater community support with comparable specs, you'd probably have to look at Galaxy S22 at twice the price or others.
Other good contender is Realme GT Neo 3. Minor trade-offs here and there.
Or if you only care about camera, Realme 9 Pro+ could be a good option too.
All above have IMX766 camera sensor, same as GT 2 Pro.
If you are looking at GT 2 Pro, consider getting CN version and flashing Global.
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Why should I get the cn version? If I recall I saw people getting issues when flashing it with global so I think that any version should be fine since with eu it's rootable through an exploit
CN came out much cheaper for me.
Flashing global works fine if the steps are followed carefully.
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CN came out much cheaper for me.
Flashing global works fine if the steps are followed carefully.
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But if I got EU instead, it should be ok to leave it as is and use an exploit to root it no?
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But if I got EU instead, it should be ok to leave it as is and use an exploit to root it no?
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The exploit is only needed to unlock the bootloader. Once the bootloader is unlocked there's no difference between the various global models with regard to root.