Remix OS is supposed to use the blue Windows Boot Manager, correct?
But on my Windows tablet (Lenovo Miix 700), I always get a gray boot screen which asks me to choose "Windows" or "Remix OS".
If I select "Windows", then it will load the blue Windows Boot Manager screen (without the Remix OS option).
Can anyone explain what's going wrong?
How can I force Remix OS to use the actual Windows Boot Manager?
The reason I want the actual Windows Boot Manager is because it's easy to customize the countdown timer & boot preference. With the current gray boot screen, I can only edit the timer by mounting my boot partition & editing complicated files.
OS: Windows 10 Pro x64
Bios: UEFI with Secure Boot & Fast Boot disabled.
Remix OS version: Latest (3.0.207)
Installation method: Remix OS For PC "Installation Tool" (16 gb chosen, targetted to 20 gb NTFS partition, drive letter "R:" assigned)
Okay, I discovered the solution. You can read the quoted posts below. It is not possible to add Remix OS as an option in the Windows Boot Manager...if the Windows OS was installed in UEFI.
I don't know why this isn't made more public.
I wasted so many days trying all sorts of experiments, and thinking something was wrong with my system.
HypoTurtle said:
UEFI WBM can't load anything other than windows bootloader; so it can't chainload grub2. It does however see any /efi folder as a seperate UEFI [usb] device.
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Milamber33 said:
If Windows was installed in BIOS mode, you get the Windows boot menu which is touch compatible, but if Windows was installed in UEFI mode, then the Windows boot menu can't be used to load non-Windows operating systems (thanks Microsoft) and so you get the non-touch grub boot menu. Annoying, I know, and it's the reason I ended up rebuilding my Lenovo Thinkpad Helix in BIOS mode, despite the slower boot process.
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So, here is my tablet condition:
1. UEFI
2. Windows 10 32 bit
3. 64-bit Processor
4. Secure boot already off
RemixOS version I use : 64bit Beta version (with UEFI compability)
Installed it using "official procedure tool'.
What have I try to do and what happens after it:
1. Installing remix OS via installer provided on Hard Disk (C: drive only available with 7GBs of free space)
a. Rebooting using provided reboot message from installer
Result : rebooting automatically to win 10 without boot option.
b. Rebooting using "shift + restart" (Advanced Startup)
Result : When choosing "boot from a different place", there is "Remix OS" listed alongside with "EFI USB", "USB CD", etc. But, when I choose Remix OS, it runs straight to windows 10 instead (no error or anything else, just boot through it).
2. Installing Remix OS via installer provided on USB drive (32GB)
Same result with point 1a and 1b.
Other options I have "tried":
- I have tried installed using EasyBCD, but turns out it doesn't provide much compability with UEFI boot mode.
- I tried using easyUEFI, but since I don't have any FAT32 drives (my SD Card is exFAT formatted, and C: can't be partitioned using partition manager tool), it doesn't help me.
- I tried using the grub2win option, but since my windows version is a 32bit one, grub2win can't run.
- There is no option to turn the UEFI BIOS mode to legacy.
Question:
- Why the booting runs straight to windows, without even showing any boot options?
- Why the booting still runs straight to windows even after selecting Remix OS from advanced startup boot?
- Any options left for me to try?
You can not run any 64 bit OS on this Tablet. Because UEFI only support 32 bit OS. Many Bay-Trail tablets has this limitation.
I agree here,baytrail is generally 32 bits
I usually use my Dell Venue 11 Pro without a keyboard attached but now I can't choose remix os at boot. Is it possible to choose the second option of a dual boot without a keyboard?
I have a similar issue with a dell latitude 7350; I just bought it without a keyboard and it has no usb ports so I can't plug one in.
I've installed remix os but the touch screen doesn't work at the boot loader so I can't get into remix os; anyone have any ideas how I can boot into remix os?
Edit: Is there a file I modify with notepad to have it boot into remix os?
i have the same issue. did anyone found a solution?
did you test this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/RemixOS/comments/48t7m1/installed_on_dell_venue_11_pro_7130/d0n7z4m/
the solution is only with android 5 image, maybe someone has android 6 image for this?
You need to change the boot order with EasyBCD from windows. Make Remix OS the default
saulin78 said:
You need to change the boot order with EasyBCD from windows. Make Remix OS the default
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and how can i change the boot order in remixOS? or do i have to stay there forever? is there a easyBCD for android?
Oh Remix OS is your default boot option? Normally is the other way around.
You just said I should make it default with easy bcd. Then remixOS is default. How to change it back from remix os?
You need to edit c:\boot\bcd.bcd
But I'm not sure if there is a BCD editor for Android, and You can't boot to any USB?
Otherwise You need to boot from USB to a Windows Live environment and run EasyBCD there.
I ran into this as well with my NuVision Tablet. Upon boot it will not use the power button to select the os even though I can use the volume buttons to go up and down on the list.
What I don't get, is I was able to install RemixOS on my Acer W500 and it edits the Windows Boot Manager that functions the same way, but works correctly with the Windows 8-10 style touchscreen menu, the same style of menu if you go into Windows 8-10 and go through Settings to get to Startup Options.
The only thing I can think of that is different is it is not a UEFI windows install, however it is a UEFI capable bios?
On my Dell Venue 11 Pro I added an UEFI boot entry for Remix OS (took a little fiddling). Now I can enter the UEFI boot menu on startup and select the boot entry using the volume keys.
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On my Dell Venue 11 Pro I added an UEFI boot entry for Remix OS (took a little fiddling). Now I can enter the UEFI boot menu on startup and select the boot entry using the volume keys.
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yeah, this is the solution :good:! how did you do that?
Hi,
Anyone can help me to make the Remix OS as default boot option? I successfully installed Remix OS on my Acer V5-573G via dual boot. I shrank my current hard drive and created a separate partition for my Remix OS. I'm booting to Remix OS via Settings > Change PC Settings > Update and Recovery > Recovery > Advanced Startup.
Upon selecting this option to boot to Remix OS, there is a DOS like screen asking me to select from Windows and Remix OS.
Please help me if there is an option to make the Remix OS as default and get rid of this selection which also has 30 second timeout.
Tried to edit the menu.lst but cannot find the correct setting to make it defaulted to Remix OS.
Thanks in advance!
If you use official method for dual boot, every time you start your PC, you'll get prompted with two options Windows or Remix OS. You don't need to enter Windows to boot Remix. By default, Windows is the primary OS, and if you don't choose one option, it will start Windows in 30 seconds. But in this menu, there is a button to change the primary OS.
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lucasdeeiroz said:
If you use official method for dual boot, every time you start your PC, you'll get prompted with two options Windows or Remix OS. You don't need to enter Windows to boot Remix. By default, Windows is the primary OS, and if you don't choose one option, it will start Windows in 30 seconds. But in this menu, there is a button to change the primary OS.
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Thanks for your reply. I understand that if I install the remix OS on my drive C, it will always ask me the boot options (windows , remix os). Since I want to always default the booting to Windows (most of the time), I didn't install it to my drive C because it annoys me to see this and select it manually or wait for the timeout to finish just to boot to windows.
since i only use the remix OS not that frequent, I installed it on separate partition and it is okay with me to boot to windows first and go to advanced recovery setting to reboot and go to remix OS.
I just wonder if in this way, I can default it to remix OS with seeing this boot options
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If you use official method for dual boot, every time you start your PC, you'll get prompted with two options Windows or Remix OS. You don't need to enter Windows to boot Remix. By default, Windows is the primary OS, and if you don't choose one option, it will start Windows in 30 seconds. But in this menu, there is a button to change the primary OS.
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Where is the button?
I realize this is a sort of old thread, but I am having this same issue. Remix OS is the default boot option. I would like it to boot Windows by default, as it is really annoying when the pc restarts and if I'm not paying close attention it boots Remix OS. This is especially annoying when installing updates!
I too do not see any "button" that would facilitate this option.
Help? Thoughts?
Same problem here.
Just installed and I want to default to Windows. I guess ill just uninstall and hope it works. Caint boot in Remix by default on a PC for sure.
drivindisco said:
I realize this is a sort of old thread, but I am having this same issue. Remix OS is the default boot option. I would like it to boot Windows by default, as it is really annoying when the pc restarts and if I'm not paying close attention it boots Remix OS. This is especially annoying when installing updates!
I too do not see any "button" that would facilitate this option.
Help? Thoughts?
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[KitFox] said:
Same problem here.
Just installed and I want to default to Windows. I guess ill just uninstall and hope it works. Caint boot in Remix by default on a PC for sure.
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I found out how to change the default "Settings > Update & Security > Recovery > Advanced Startup."
Worked for me...
Have same issue here but would be great if we can edit the default boot up to Windows instead of Remix OS and shorten the time from 30 seconds to user defined (2 seconds) would be great. Anyone have way around this?
Sorry for the DAMN LATE reply.....
This solution is applicable if you have a legacy BIOS.
Remix OS comes already pre-rooted, so you can edit root stuff, if you have access to the Windows partition (usually "disk0"), you can edit menu.lst using a text editor, then add:
title Windows
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1
Change the number (hd0,1) according to your partition number
Example: I installed Windows in the 2nd partition, then (hd0,2)
Save the changes then reboot and press Esc before the countdown ends, and select Windows.
If your main OS is Windows NT4.0 or 2000 or XP, then add this instead:
title NTLDR
fallback 1
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /ntldr
map () (hd0)
map (hd0) ()
map --rehook
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /ntldr
chainloader /ntldr
Change both (hd0) numbers if you installed the old Windows OS to another disk, for example: I attached two disks, one has a corrupt Windows 10 which is (hd0), and the other has Windows XP for recovery purposes (hd1), then I change to (hd1)
Save the changes then reboot, and press Esc before the countdown ends, and select NTLDR.
And Voila! You can now set your Windows OS to default booting option again!
Loving RemixOS But not loving how painful it is on my pc to launch it
Initially I installed remixos on my Lenovo Miix 700 using the installer from jide.com. It worked fine, and when connected to a keyboard I can choose it in the grub menu and launch it ok. Everything happy and I can use my laptop as a tablet with android
Windows is installed in UEFI mode (laptop can boot legacy or UEFI), so it is not added to windows boot menu, only as a grub menu. EasyBCD does not work (as it is UEFI).
The problem is, the hardware keys (vol up / vol down are the only ones I have) do not work in grub, so without a keyboard attached I cannot boot into remixos.
Next I went and followed a guide on hitricks.com called guide-how-to-dual-boot-remix-os-with-windows-uefi-legacy which installs remix to a partition. This works as in it now shows up in my bios-level boot menu (which I can access by holding down vol up during boot, not ideal but not world ending), but has left a lot of mess. I have a grub menu for starting windows (normal boot), and a separate grub menu when booting the remix partition. I want to delete / uninstall the grub menu installed by the jide installer (the one on normal boot), so it just goes into windows boot. If there is no way to add remix to windows boot manager, I would then just keep the grub menu for remixos when booting from bios menu (already I have this but set to timeout 0 so I don't actually see it).
My EFI partition looks like following:
\boot\grub\grub.cfg this is the grub menu shown at startup. Deleting this I get grub terminal only.
\EFI\Microsoft\... microsoft windows 10
\EFI\Android\grubx64.efi, grub.cfg This is the grub menu for remixos. I have changed this to have a timeout of zero as can only get here by bios boot menu anyway
\EFI\RemixOS\bootx64.efi, grubx64.efi, exfat64.mod, ntfs64.mod, grub.cfg This I think was created by the installer previously. It only has an entry for Windows
I have already tried the windows 10 recovery mode -> bootrec /fixmbr and bootrec /fixboot, but they did not change it.
In an ideal world, I would just have the windows boot menu (as it has touch screen), and nothing else. I have considered using neosmart's easy recovery essentials (as apparently it can also un-UEFI mode windows), but I don't want to buy it if it will not work.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated please!
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If there is no way to add remix to windows boot manager, I would then just keep the grub menu for remixos when booting from bios menu (already I have this but set to timeout 0 so I don't actually see it).
I have already tried the windows 10 recovery mode -> bootrec /fixmbr and bootrec /fixboot, but they did not change it.
In an ideal world, I would just have the windows boot menu (as it has touch screen), and nothing else. I have considered using neosmart's easy recovery essentials (as apparently it can also un-UEFI mode windows), but I don't want to buy it if it will not work.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated please!
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Sorry, I could not get my head around everything you were saying. But I noticed you mentioned "Windows 10 Recovery Mode" as not helping. So I wanted to chime in, in that regard.
I also have a Lenovo Miix 700. Last night, I was desperately trying to find a way for Remix OS to use the Windows Boot Manager. None of my experiments worked. Then even after uninstalling Remix OS from uninstaller: the Grub bootloader remained on startup. Additionally, I tried deleting items manually from the boot partition, which screwed up my boot.
The solution that worked for me was entering recovery mode (Power+Volume Up on Miix device). Then enter the command prompt. The command that rebuilt my boot and got rid of Remix OS entries was: bootrec /rebuildbcd
I have a few PCs and Laptops with no OS currently installed plus the HD has limited space so I don't want to waste time and HD space by first installing Windows or Linux and then installing Remix in dual-boot configuration.
There should be a way to install Remix OS on PC with Fresh/Clean Install in Single Boot Configuration
Install as Android-x86
surfturtle said:
I have a few PCs and Laptops with no OS currently installed plus the HD has limited space so I don't want to waste time and HD space by first installing Windows or Linux and then installing Remix in dual-boot configuration.
There should be a way to install Remix OS on PC with Fresh/Clean Install in Single Boot Configuration
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Burn ISO with any tool, the boot to resident mode, before selecting Resident Mode press TAB and delete (SRC= DATA=) to end, then type INSTALL=1
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Burn ISO with any tool, the boot to resident mode, before selecting Resident Mode press TAB and delete (SRC= DATA=) to end, then type INSTALL=1
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I have a ASUS T100 tablet PC and it has a x86 uefi bootloader. im trying to install remixOS as a standalone OS. after I do your instructions do you need to edit the grub file so it boots (not sure how to do this) and which OS should I use 32 bit or 64 bit? last time I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/win...nt/winapp-android-x86-installer-uefi-t3225748 to install the 64 bit version on my tablet but the new 3.0 OS doesn't work with this tool.
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Burn ISO with any tool, the boot to resident mode, before selecting Resident Mode press TAB and delete (SRC= DATA=) to end, then type INSTALL=1
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Thanks for the info, I tried this and it installed and booted from the installer menu however when I reboot the PC I find that the Android-x86 installer fails to create a boot partition.
I tried all possible combinations, Grub without EFI, Grub with EFI, both varitions on MBR and GPT, etc. nothing works. Even tried x86 and x64 installations
surfturtle said:
Thanks for the info, I tried this and it installed and booted from the installer menu however when I reboot the PC I find that the Android-x86 installer fails to create a boot partition.
I tried all possible combinations, Grub without EFI, Grub with EFI, both varitions on MBR and GPT, etc. nothing works. Even tried x86 and x64 installations
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You Must continue setup as android x86 - i mean creating partition + make it bootable
look at this guide
YSH ALSAGER said:
You Must continue setup as android x86 - i mean creating partition + make it bootable
look at this guide
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thanks it works now
i think i was not creating the linux swap partition
surfturtle said:
I have a few PCs and Laptops with no OS currently installed plus the HD has limited space so I don't want to waste time and HD space by first installing Windows or Linux and then installing Remix in dual-boot configuration.
There should be a way to install Remix OS on PC with Fresh/Clean Install in Single Boot Configuration
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Try hitting tab
then the spacebar, then put INSTALL=1 press enter it will bring up Android X86 installer for you to format the hard drive and install on to it. This will allow it to boot without the USB drive
When I hit TAB, nothing happens. ;-/