Hi guys,
I have my z2 for a while now (2 years I think), and he has tried to beat down the floor sometimes and until now, hasn't been victorious.
So the thing is, after the last try, he has the back cover a little openned in the middle (I can see a little of the glue and can stick something between the cover and the phone), and also, has a little opening in the screen, just like the cover. After this, the buttons got a little strage too, need to press power and up too hard to work, down is ok.
I would like to now, if anyone has experienced that, and know what could it be, I haven't openned it yet as it need the adhesive to put the cover back and I don't have access to it in my city, have to order it online.
Thanks!!!
And sorry for the bad english.
It could be the battery swelling as its on it's last legs.
If it was mine I would remove the back cover to inspect the battery, before things got (possibly) much worse.
My Z2 is over two years old and the back cover started to lift adjacent to the charging port. The cause was the pcb spring contacts for the NFC antenna pushing against the cover,which I've subsequently remedied. The physical appearance and size of the battery is all good so I have no safety worries although it will need replacing simply due to its age and noticeable decrease in capacity.
The back cover was only raised about a millimetre but it was noticeable enough and annoying. There is no problem with screen separation.
If my problems were similar to yours I would immediately take off the back cover, remove the battery and fully inspect it for signs of swelling. A new rear gasket / seal is easier to remedy than a complete phone wrecked by a screwed battery.
Good luck :good:
I see, can I use it without the back cover?
Cause it would take something like 2 weeks to get the seal from internet.
Your problem is kind of like mine, but mine isn't in the nfc point, but in the battery point, just above her, I thought about it at first too, I'll see about it then! Tnks!
Google "Xperia Z2 teardown" and you will see that the battery occupies more-or-less the mid-to-lower part of the phone. If your screen and rear cover are bulging from the centre outwards then it *probably* is the battery swelling.
I removed my rear cover about 6 weeks ago and the gasket was mostly intact so after sorting the NFC contacts I just reattached it as-is. It's stayed in place so far, but I also have a CASE-MATE transparent polycarbonate rear cover that adds further protection.
Once I find a genuine Sony battery and replacement gasket at reasonable prices I will get them ordered. So far things are fine.
If you manage to keep the gasket intact like I did it should be fine to reattach the cover until you get a new one.
And even if your battery hasn't swelled it may also be worth replacing that too, considering it's 2 years old.
I see, I also use a case-mate to protect more, cant handle it without it, I guess I'll try to do it then, seriously? I thought that battery would last longer, I'll see into that, now it makes sense, the battery started to die faster a while ago, nice to know.
Thanks!
Just oppened it, It was the battery as discussed above. Thanks!
Now you know what the problem is its easy to sort it out.
Would be good if you post a pic of the battery.
Here it go:
http://imgur.com/a/5Z48h
Got pic from the the battery and the back curved.
Yeah it's obvious from the pics. I think you've caught it just in time.
A new gasket and battery and your Z2 will live maybe another 2 years :good:
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.. my apologies if this not the appropriate place to post this, but I need help..the little battery door/flap that clips into place which holds the actual battery in place and covers the SIM card (not the black battery cover/antenna) has broken!!.. Now whenever the phone drops or is handled rough enough to cause the battery cover/antenna to come off, the battery slides out of place and the phone turns off.. this happens multiple times throughout the day..i'm ready to throw this phone into the far reaches of this galaxy to say the least... if thats not bad enough, the little chrome peice that surrounds the sensor part of the optical trackpad on the front of the phone has fallen out .. it really takes away from the beauty of the phone!.. any idea where I can find replacement parts for these???.. used or new, it doesn't matter ... If ANYONE can help me i'd be indebted to you for ever!!!
Try contacting HTC.. They make the phones and they should know.. And btw.. Handle your phone a little more careful..
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Damn, i've always been afraid of that happening expirimenting and having to remove the battery frequently. Don't know anything to help you, sorry
I have the same broken part. Been looking around for this part for a while with no luck. HTC want £44 to replace it, only by sending it in for a repair. They will not sell me the part and I cannot find it anywhere.
I will keep an eye on this thread for more suggestions.
Tape? Although it would have to stick to the aluminum unibody. See if it works! My head's imagery seems like it could.
Yes, my Legend is basically held together with tape. Without it, the battery cover comes of very easily. It's been like this for about 6 weeks now.
I've also been in to my local Vodafone shop to see what they say. They will not repair it as it's a moving part.
Buy your Legend a silicone or rubber case. That should prevent black cover from falling off.
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why don't u fill the gap between the black part and ur battery with a soft rubber?
i think it'll solve ur problem
I want this part too. The center clip mechanism has failed due to taking the cover off regularly.
Oh my goodness, I should stop switching SIMs every now and then. I'm scared, actually.
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Damn, i've always been afraid of that happening expirimenting and having to remove the battery frequently. Don't know anything to help you, sorry
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I was thinking of placing a secundairy antenna on that part, so you would stil have an small antena if the lid is missing. or maybe even better reception.
If you still have problems with the battery cover/flap, here's what i did on my legend: Take out the battery, look inside the battery compartment, you'll see the four battery contacts/pins, and right next to them you'll see there is a small black square rubber, glued to a metal spring underneath. The spring is heavily glued to the chassis/plastic body. I took a small (but strong) set of tweezers, and pulled the thing off the phone (the spring + the small rubber attached to it), and my phone works perfectly now, with the broken flap. The thing is that the spring is actually pushing the battery out, for "easier" removal, thus making the battery loose contact/fall out on every shake/impact.
I think that the design of this part is the worst about the legend. On mine I have experienced that the grip is weaker and weaker, and now comes off quite easily (unintended).
Not sure who has this problem, but my phone tended to "creak" when pressed at certain points. I decided to figure out why this was happening. Turns out the battery itself has a little more motion than ideal and the phone was making the creak noise with the back cover off when i pushed on the battery.
My simple fix was to cut out a few pieces of paper the size of the battery and put them between the back cover and the battery.
This makes the phone feel much more solid. I'm sure tape would do the same thing. The trick is to find the right thickness between stopping the noise and still allowing the cover to fit on tightly.
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Not sure who has this problem, but my phone tended to "creak" when pressed at certain points. I decided to figure out why this was happening. Turns out the battery itself has a little more motion than ideal and the phone was making the creak noise with the back cover off when i pushed on the battery.
My simple fix was to cut out a few pieces of paper the size of the battery and put them between the back cover and the battery.
This makes the phone feel much more solid. I'm sure tape would do the same thing. The trick is to find the right thickness between stopping the noise and still allowing the cover to fit on tightly.
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I haven't had the same issue, but on my first Dinc 4G, the back case immediately next to the volume rocker was slightly loose, and I could press on it and feel a similar creak to what you're talking about. I traded it in after a week because of a few other issues, and this new one doesn't have that same problem. I didn't do anything to try to remedy it, so I don't know the best solution.
theres now 4 inc4g ltes within my family lol.
the creek is only noticeable on two of them.
My solution to the creaky problem was to take the cover off and cover the little dimple thingies with electrical tape.
Works like a champ.
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I take a more simplistic approach for all the phones i purchase and issue here at work. Peel off 3 of the small postit notes, stick it on the battery, no creaks, groans or otherwise irritating sounds.
I have noticed dust under my camera lens. I thought my phone may not be waterproof anymore and tested pressure sensor. sure enough, pressure would only bump up a second then back to atm even when the back is still pressed.
so i bought rear adhesives for xperia z5 compact(not tape rolls) and opened the back. i was greeted with a dust cloud (i may be exaggerating a bit) near the camera module along the back frame and adhesive.
i noticed that the frame near the camera and the tapes are extremely thin. stock or replacement, all of them are alarmingly narrow. the adhesive of my z1 compact, which i also replaced the back and battery some time ago, is really wide.
so i cleaned the tapes and dust off. made sure no residue is left for proper seal and adhesion. and a few days later..... dust. now this is a new tape. it cant have degraded already. so i went and replaced the back entirely. a few days later..... dust. what the heck. the back keeps popping off around the camera area.
do you have this problem?
I've had to use new adhesive 4 times. It just isn't that well-designed, my Z1 too kept coming off for no reason.
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I've had to use new adhesive 4 times. It just isn't that well-designed, my Z1 too kept coming off for no reason.
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is fully sealed now? does is still come off after the fourth seal? my z1c never had this problem and i've opened it a couple of times to replace the battery and back panel.
Yup, it's coming off
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Yup, it's coming off
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damn, guess well have to wait for the xz1 compact then.
My completely uneducated guess is that the Z5 line uses the horrible 810 processor which overheats all the time. I'm guessing this overheating wears out the adhesive and over time, it starts coming off. Remember, the adhesive is only meant to be heated once when you apply it, not multiple times.
This however, doesn't explain why this also happens to other Sony phones. Also, Samsung phones do the same thing now, with the adhesive on the glass back, and yet those are much much more reliable.
Hey guys.. I know this z ultra thread is almost dead and i might not get help, but i am gonna give it a try anyway.
So the story is.. last year i kept my xperia z ultra in my laptop bag and after half an hour when i checked the screen had a little line(crack) in the middle of the screen from one end to the other.
The phone turns on. I can see the display but it doesnt recognise my touches. and it randomly keeps on launching apps and touching screen here and there.
I would like to ask what exactly went wrong here.
some of my friends had this phone and their's were working even after cracked screens.
Can i replace the screen? and is it worth spending on this phone now?
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Hey guys.. I know this z ultra thread is almost dead and i might not get help, but i am gonna give it a try anyway.
So the story is.. last year i kept my xperia z ultra in my laptop bag and after half an hour when i checked the screen had a little line(crack) in the middle of the screen from one end to the other.
The phone turns on. I can see the display but it doesnt recognise my touches. and it randomly keeps on launching apps and touching screen here and there.
I would like to ask what exactly went wrong here.
some of my friends had this phone and their's were working even after cracked screens.
Can i replace the screen? and is it worth spending on this phone now?
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I had the same thing happen to me over 2 years ago. I finally got around to fixing it, because I was weary of bad LCD screens and I wanted to do it on the cheap.
I bought one from AliExpress and can confirm it is an OEM LCD panel. Only $36. Arrived in 3 weeks and it works like it did before, minus the waterproofing of course. In fact, this seller is all about OEM, good place for other devices as well.
Here is the link (I can't post links right now so it needs to be copied): goo.gl/et1vd6
I'd say it's worth it. It makes for a good backup phone and mini tablet for when you don't want to bring a tablet.
lilracerboi said:
I had the same thing happen to me over 2 years ago. I finally got around to fixing it, because I was weary of bad LCD screens and I wanted to do it on the cheap.
I bought one from AliExpress and can confirm it is an OEM LCD panel. Only $36. Arrived in 3 weeks and it works like it did before, minus the waterproofing of course. In fact, this seller is all about OEM, good place for other devices as well.
Here is the link (I can't post links right now so it needs to be copied): goo.gl/et1vd6
I'd say it's worth it. It makes for a good backup phone and mini tablet for when you don't want to bring a tablet.
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WOW that is cheap! To bad its not available anymore..
If I buy a new phone and this is no longer my primary phone I might change the screen and frame!
My chassis is cracked in half both at the sim slot due to its being so thin there and at the ear plug.
And my usb port is is not working cause of pin 1 that came loose that I soldered once but it came loose again so I ordered a new connector to be replaced completely.
The pins has started to move around due to wear in the plastic inside the connector so when I connect a usb cable it will tweak the pin back and forth until it breaks loose of the solder point.
And my earplug needs to be replaced due to 3.5mm plug comes out to easy but thats easy.
I have a question. How did you remove the battery?
I probably need to flip the motherboard upside down for the usb port that requires the battery to come out first.
I tried to break the glue underneath but the battery started to deform and bend just slightly and I'm worried the battery might burst into flames.
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WOW that is cheap! To bad its not available anymore..
If I buy a new phone and this is no longer my primary phone I might change the screen and frame!
My chassis is cracked in half both at the sim slot due to its being so thin there and at the ear plug.
And my usb port is is not working cause of pin 1 that came loose that I soldered once but it came loose again so I ordered a new connector to be replaced completely.
The pins has started to move around due to wear in the plastic inside the connector so when I connect a usb cable it will tweak the pin back and forth until it breaks loose of the solder point.
And my earplug needs to be replaced due to 3.5mm plug comes out to easy but thats easy.
I have a question. How did you remove the battery?
I probably need to flip the motherboard upside down for the usb port that requires the battery to come out first.
I tried to break the glue underneath but the battery started to deform and bend just slightly and I'm worried the battery might burst into flames.
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Man, your Ultra has gone through a lot!
Dang, didn't think they'd go out of stock. Pretty much the only online seller I trusted, because they compare OEM displays with fakes.
As for the battery, I don't remember how I got it out. I took it apart over a year ago when I bought a non-OEM display, so the adhesive was already loose. If you're in a situation where the screen is not working, you could just heat up the front to take the screen off and heat the body where the battery is, that way you're not putting heat directly on the battery.
Just be careful about the connector, especially if it's still plugged in.
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WOW that is cheap! To bad its not available anymore..
I have a question. How did you remove the battery?
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If it's Z Ultra we are talking about - you unscrew 4 screws on each corner and pry battery from the right side with a plastic tool. It has two adhesive strips on both left and right side.
Though you don't need to take the battery out if you want to replace the screen, the connectors are at the bottom and accesible with just the metal cover removal.
By the way the reason why touch stops working the moment your screen cracks is because the capacitive layer is integrated into the glass, and when it breaks the connection is severed and no longer working. It is a shame, and the glass on this particular phone is very fragile, I suggest putting a tempered glass protector on it, so far mine holds up fine with it.
If you don't want to go thru hassle of repairing it and looking for a new device: the Z5 or XZ premium I think are best options of the sony side as the XA Ultra gives midrange experience at best.
On the same screen size id give S8+ or Note 8 a shot, they look promising.
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If it's Z Ultra we are talking about - you unscrew 4 screws on each corner and pry battery from the right side with a plastic tool. It has two adhesive strips on both left and right side.
Though you don't need to take the battery out if you want to replace the screen, the connectors are at the bottom and accesible with just the metal cover removal.
By the way the reason why touch stops working the moment your screen cracks is because the capacitive layer is integrated into the glass, and when it breaks the connection is severed and no longer working. It is a shame, and the glass on this particular phone is very fragile, I suggest putting a tempered glass protector on it, so far mine holds up fine with it.
If you don't want to go thru hassle of repairing it and looking for a new device: the Z5 or XZ premium I think are best options of the sony side as the XA Ultra gives midrange experience at best.
On the same screen size id give S8+ or Note 8 a shot, they look promising.
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Thank you. I had trouble locating where the glue strips are so I kind of felt my way where there was something sticky but didn't make much progress.
I got one corner out but then I gave up.
Since a few years I use tempered glass back and front. They are a lifesaver! Not very cheap but worth every penny.
I'm not sure if I'm going to take my phone apart for the tenth time or so..its very fiddly to solder this tiny usb connector.
Atm i'm using the magnetic cable and a phone case so it stays in place but I'm working on a "workaround" with my old battery case with two 18awg cables soldered to the dock pins (cause I hit current limit with thinner awg) and ordered a dip to micro usb board to solder these cables onto.
So the case only contains a strait path from the usb port to the dock connector on the battery case.
The idea is If the port brakes I ware out the dip board instead of the internal usb port when charging.
Easy maintance and low cost of replacement parts. Ten dip boards for 1 usd vs 2 usd for three internal usb ports.
And I don't have to worry about the magnetic dock cable coming loose all the time.
I started to look for a new device a month ago. Its showing its age.
I'll continue writing in the other thread..so we don't go too off topic.
Fck
Sadly an extreme issue with Sony phones for many years. Along with the dreaded sudden death that effects so many models its more widespread then LG bootloop and Apple bendgate combined.... And somehow denied as a defect by Sony and unknown and disbelieve by many....
Both issues I think however are rectified since 2017 I believe though.... Finally
Okay, story time. Some time ago, the battery in my Z5c swelled up and pushed the battery cover off the back of the phone. I replace the battery myself, & also order new (supposedly OEM) adhesive for the back glass. It does NOT stick on well, popping off one side or the other every few minutes. After fighting it for a while (ordering additional replacement adhesive and trying to re-clean and re-apply it a couple more times), it seems to finally stay in place.
Fast-forward a few months. I see the back glass coming off again. Oh, great, here we go again. I peel it off, and find that the replacement battery is a *little* inflated. Not by much, and not nearly as much as the original battery, but even though it seems to barely be a problem, it's also clear that the battery cover is not skin-tight as it was when it went in. Perhaps it was "enough" that given the tolerances inside, it still managed to push the back glass off. Okay, fine: I bought 2 replacement batteries at the time, so I'll put the other one in.
Fast-forward another few months to a couple of weeks ago. SAME BLASTED THING. Battery barely inflated, back cover coming off, but not really 100% clear whether the battery *really* is the culprit, or whether this adhesive I keep buying is just crap, or if I'm not applying it correctly.
Well, this time I'm running into the same problem trying to re-apply it that I did the first time around: it simply Will. Not. Stay. Put. I've tried the usual tricks I have read about: namely, making sure everything is squeaky-clean, and warming up the adhesive before pressing the back glass onto the phone, and then giving it a little time to cure with something heavy on top of the phone (if I had some clamps, I might try to use those instead). It helps for a couple of hours, but then the back cover just comes RIGHT off again.
Here is my hypothesis: either my phone's chassis is was not quite up to manufacturing standards, or I keep re-assembling it wrong, or something along those lines, because the battery sticks up slightly above the surrounding black frame. And what I can see when the back first starts coming off is that it is slightly "bowing" a bit...the top and bottom are sunk slightly below the plastic frame, but the middle bows out to the point where it rises slightly ABOVE the plastic frame. It's as if either the battery is sitting too high inside the phone, or the frame around the battery is sitting too low.
I have tried taking it all apart again and putting it all back together, but no dice.
Has anybody ever experienced anything like this? It's super frustrating. It seems clearly like a design defect. I just wish I could understand how things are different right now vs. when it was originally assembled at the factory.
Right now I'm sitting here seriously thinking that maybe the answer to this is to layer TWO back adhesive stickers on top of each other, in order to raise the edges of the glass back up enough above the battery that the back won't bow out anymore...
Argh!
...oh, also: and are genuine Sony batteries REALLY this crap in terms of quality?? If so, they should be ashamed and should have recalled many of these phones. I have yet to run into a genuine Sony Z5c battery that doesn't have at least a small build-up of gases within the battery pack after a few short months of use. I have been shying away from third-party batteries by no-name companies, but at this point I'm thinking that those could only be worse if they managed to spontaneously burst into flames.
In case anybody else who is struggling with the same thing ever ends up stumbling across this in the future, I seem to have finally managed to successfully tackle this problem. I finally got more pre-cut adhesive in, and yes: at least in my case, stacking two of them on top of each other has done the trick. (It's not easy lining them up in order to apply them to each other, either...I can tell you that much.)
I don't know if maybe all the adhesive that is out on the market is not "genuine" Sony and so not built to the same spec (maybe the genuine article is much thicker?), or if my particular phone's manufacturing tolerances are just outside the norm (either the battery is sticking up farther than it should, or the edges of the frame are sunk in further than they should be), or what. But using 2 stacked on top of each other instead of 1 seems to be the perfect thickness, allowing for the back glass to remain flush with the plastic frame's edges while also remaining perfectly flat.
I can tell you that at least on my phone, this is still not enough to ensure a tight water seal (pressure sensor doesn't change with increasing outside pressure). But it's hard to know if that's due to the way the back is applied, or some other issue elsewhere that's entirely unrelated.
ARGH. Nope. It lasted a lot longer than previous attempts, but now the upper-left corner, where the camera lens is, is already starting to lift off again.
This is *such* a stupid design.
Try using B7000 industrial glue from Aliexpress or other vendors, it can still be unglued by heat if repairs are needed, but should stay glued better and longer then these precut adhesives which are low in quality...
Thanks for your thread. I can feel your frustration! I'm having problems with the flash LED making weird green shadows in photos (like here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/camera-flash-bleed.3368004/) I was thinking about opening the back cover to try and fix this and maybe install a new battery and a new camera lens while I'm at it. But now I'm afraid to open it up. I am pretty sure that a this point all "original" replacement parts that are available are fake. Should I ever find the courage: Is the back cover and camera lens made from one piece or must they be replaced separately?
Try to get the OEM adhesive strips and battery.
3m makes all sorts of industrial double sided strips. Get the right thickness if you go that route.