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My idle cpu usage seems a little high and sporadic and I'd like to force them all to 0% when idle but still be able to receive background data like for instance my play store seems to use a continuous idle usage and a few others. I can freeze them with the System Tuner but I'd prefer to Globally force all apps to 0% usage so I'm getting say 1% usage at idle on occasion every hour or few hours? When I use System Monitor, I see my cpu usage kind of jumping from 0 to up to 35-40% while idling and I don't want these apps using any resources at idle. I'm trying to extend battery life a lot more.
My battery life is really good already since I have a 3600mah battery but I could get even better if I can dial in the usage at idle.
Is there application that can do that?
On another note, I can't seem to figure out why my Google Calendar won't open a "New Event" it just sits on the Loading... Screen
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Greenify! It's in the play store for free
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Greenify is best for hibernate user apps you can also prevent system apps with Rom Toolbox>app manager>select app>advance freeze>disable useless services
Use Ds battery saver pro for better deep sleep
If your android version is 4+ go to settings>developer options>choose background processes atmost 2
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I wish the Developer options for the the services would stick after reboot since it always reverts...
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I wish the Developer options for the the services would stick after reboot since it always reverts...
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None of those things changed it, still getting a minimum of 15% usage at complete idle with 0 processes allowed and close every app after use.
Not sure what do here... Battery life while in use is poor just because of those background load.
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None of those things changed it, still getting a minimum of 15% usage at complete idle with 0 processes allowed and close every app after use.
Not sure what do here... Battery life while in use is poor just because of those background load.
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Buy betterbatterystats and check wich app or wakelocks are draining your battery,if you find nothing then throw the battery in dustbin.
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The last week or so since I got my HTC One Max, I have been slowly configuring it and setting it up to my tastes. On my previous phone, an HTC Rezound, I used an app called Clean Master to manage the phones ram, and Battery Doctor to extend its battery life. I tried an application called Battery Guru on my Max, but it actually drained the battery faster while the phone was not doing anything. After uninstalling it, my battery life seems to have shot upwards. I have not re-installed Battery Doctor. I have read the following things about these battery saver apps over the last few days:
1. Some say the applications are not needed and you should not use them, especially if they include a task manager. The logic was that Android was designed to have multiple apps in memory all the time, and closing them, then opening them again from scratch, uses up the battery.
2.Others have said just the opposite. They claim the applications greatly increase battery life. If you read the reviews on the Android Market about these two applications, that seems to be the case.
Both of these applications I have used get rave reviews from the many folks that have used them. Is the benefit they are seeing just imagined? Do the applications actually work? Is it also possible that they work for some and not others, since there are a lot of models of Android devices out there?
Most things that are ram "cleaners" are just giving you a slight point in time speed boost. Your ram will fill up again (as it should). Most so called battery doctors cripple your phone to extend battery life (think extreme power saver on the Max). What you want is something that blocks the applications that you do have running from performing activities in the background that you dont need at that moment ( think facebook looking for your location even when not using it just so it will know it faster when you open the app).
I use a combo of firewall to block most apps from using the internet (radio takes a lot of battery) and greenify which hibernates the app while keeping it in ram so it brings me into the app where I was before.
mikekoz said:
The last week or so since I got my HTC One Max, I have been slowly configuring it and setting it up to my tastes. On my previous phone, an HTC Rezound, I used an app called Clean Master to manage the phones ram, and Battery Doctor to extend its battery life. I tried an application called Battery Guru on my Max, but it actually drained the battery faster while the phone was not doing anything. After uninstalling it, my battery life seems to have shot upwards. I have not re-installed Battery Doctor. I have read the following things about these battery saver apps over the last few days:
1. Some say the applications are not needed and you should not use them, especially if they include a task manager. The logic was that Android was designed to have multiple apps in memory all the time, and closing them, then opening them again from scratch, uses up the battery.
2.Others have said just the opposite. They claim the applications greatly increase battery life. If you read the reviews on the Android Market about these two applications, that seems to be the case.
Both of these applications I have used get rave reviews from the many folks that have used them. Is the benefit they are seeing just imagined? Do the applications actually work? Is it also possible that they work for some and not others, since there are a lot of models of Android devices out there?
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Free ram is idle ram. Having a lot of ram usage isnt a bad thing... Don't know how many people think the opposite. Now if it gets too high then yea its an issue when opening new apps but this issue died with gingerbread in all reality. Some would argue task managers even died with froyo.
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Thanks everybody! I have installed Greenify, and removed Battery Doctor and Clean Sweep, and my phone is running great! I like it so much, I have put Greenify on my other Android tablets. No more battery saving apps or task managers for me!!
The trick is to properly manage the apps that you use.
The problem with task killers is that some apps that you kill will simply "respawn" themselves automatically in the background. Killing apps that do this just means your phone is constantly closing/opening the app again and again which is worse than not killing it in the first place. You will just have to experiment and check which apps respawn after killing them and avoid having the task killer auto-kill those apps, or uninstall those apps.
You also have battery saver apps that try to manage turning certain features on/off like WiFi, GPS and Blutooth. The most efficient way of managing this is to manually disable those features when you don't need them. Having an app do this for you means that app now has to be running all the time to manage those other features, which itself will ironically increase battery usage.
Avoiding as many apps as possible that need to constantly run in the background to perform it's function. These mostly include instant messenger apps or other apps that regularly check the internet for updates in the background. Either avoid them or if possible increase the delay between how often the app checks for updates/info. The Greenify app will allow you to "suspend/pause/freeze" specific apps when they are not currently on your screen. This keeps them from performing any activity in the background, and will help save battery if used on apps that would normally be doing tasks in the background. The downside is that if that app is suppose to be doing something while in the background, it won't be doing that anymore...like checking for updates, chat messages etc...
Keep screen brightness on automatic, so you don't waste power on a bright screen when in a darker environment.
These should be more than enough tips to help you better manage your battery.
Hi eveyone,
Title tells you everything. Why i made this conclusion? Because android nougat system uses all your RAM in vain.(I would like to mention that Linux os is famous for its low ram usage and fast ui so, google, why android is using so much RAM?) . Any installed app data which are stored on your Ram on a boot, so why apps are slowly opening,Why they are reloading everytime when switching back to that app? All apps which are running in multitasking mode(recents apps) when switching between apps , app is reloading but not switching to the last opened moment. Also there are some other bad behaviour like when youre updating your apps through google play store. If you switch to another app , google play app stops doing update process. These problems gets pixel and nexus devices and all devices which uses ROMs based on aosp or lineage.
I'm on a purenexus(aosp) rom and My device (kenzo)uses 1.8/1.8 GB of ram. It's a real problem. Comparing samsung galaxy s8 vs pixel device you can see what i'm talking about. (Youtube link is below) Why OEMs gets better results with their own UI and kernel customizations? Atleast, Can we get better Ram management on android o with stock kernel? I'm not talking about apple's iOS which is better in multitasking in any way..
https://youtu.be/UK8K-lhDFVw
I would like to get your opinion and suggestions how to improve RAM management on nougat. Atleast prove me that you don't have these my mentioned problems (please tell me your using ROM name, kernel and other mods you use).
Tried a lot ROMS but after some days of usage they end with poor ui performance with bad ram management behaviour..
Some saintly person with infinite knowledge is coming here to tell you that "free ram is wasted ram".
He won't care if your phone lags, apps reload and ui is unresponsive. He'll just repeat his favorite phrase.
"Free ram is wasted ram."
Let's see the first Saint's comment.
Oh and btw..
I'm facing the exact same problem. And I'm very pissed off with these saintly people repeating their favorite phrase. No solution found so far. Use greenify on as many apps as you can. It'll cause the problem to be a little more bearable.
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Use custom kernel.
Also lately play services started hogging ram so I disabled some of the services :
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ibsk0e1yens5suc/AACU4nhZGu0UuBcwHV1VT2pLa?dl=0
Third if you have social media apps running they are the culprit, my gfs s7e lagged with Facebook, Instagram, viber, whatsapp etc.
Greenify solved the issue.
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Some saintly person with infinite knowledge is coming here to tell you that "free ram is wasted ram".
He won't care if your phone lags, apps reload and ui is unresponsive. He'll just repeat his favorite phrase.
"Free ram is wasted ram."
Let's see the first Saint's comment.
Oh and btw..
I'm facing the exact same problem. And I'm very pissed off with these saintly people repeating their favorite phrase. No solution found so far. Use greenify on as many apps as you can. It'll cause the problem to be a little more bearable.
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LOL so true, I was just thinking the same ? They'll say free ram is wasted but that's not true for a multitasker, like me, because I like to use 4 apps and be able to switch amongst them without reloading(I have 2GB variant)
Anyway, checkout my screenshot, I use greenify + 512mb zram(ElementalX kernel default settings)
P.s I'm on XenonHD
Never had such issue on any nougat rom. I use Resurrection remix 5.8.2 and Agni Kernel. Use Zram in kernel Auditor to boost performance little bit. I always have 700 to 800 free ram on 2g variant.
I set my LMK to 9-32-64-100-156-214 and I swear i can switch around with browser, facebook, message and gallery without reload anything . I'm on 2gb Kenzo with franco kernel
guys, use privacy guard / appops , and disable background working of unnecessary apps like
Solution: Root; tweak
A little bit of my story: Galaxy Tab S. What laptop (tablet - in the old days, laptops were great with that much ram, weren't they?) with 3 gb ram won't let you multitask?! When it was Kitkat, it was, well, alright. I upgraded to Marshmallow, and I was not able to multitask. Marshmallow on Galaxy J5 Prime leaves 800 MB without cache and over 1.2 GB without cache, out of 3 GB. Similar with Marshmallow/Tab S (+ overheating processor!). I mean what the ****? Is that planned obsolescence?
And now I am here, typing from Tab S, with: 5 tabs open in Chrome, 2 tabs in Xodo, Settings, Play Store, ES File Explorer, Task Bar (Braden Farmer) [at the least] - having changed to Lineage OS 14.1 (no good. by default), rooted and learnt about Low Memory Killer (in Deathly Adiutor); tweaked it and I have less than 300 MB free ram with cache and less than 875 MB free without cache. Yay! (Btw, the overheating problem is solved too by underclocking - to save battery and avoid overheating!) [I have spent at least two days testing out different OS and possibility-of-root and features.] So, this paragraph is my 2 cents.
Would like to hear from you if your problem is solved.
[PS: J5 Prime is still under warranty, and is used for basic functionalities - no problem there as of yet.]
I'm currently running RR nougat with randon kernel
The ram management is great i can swith fb ,youtube, chorme, mess without loading, but in long term the phone start slow, hang and battery drop super fast ( 5H SOT)
So i have to force 3 app running background to keep battery longer and stay away from lag.
Any ideas to keep great ram and free - lag ?!?
Tks in advance
Any idea
vkass said:
Use custom kernel.
Also lately play services started hogging ram so I disabled some of the services :
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ibsk0e1yens5suc/AACU4nhZGu0UuBcwHV1VT2pLa?dl=0
Third if you have social media apps running they are the culprit, my gfs s7e lagged with Facebook, Instagram, viber, whatsapp etc.
Greenify solved the issue.
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How do you disable the services?
mehrshad.shafaghi said:
How do you disable the services?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
Hi,
We all know that this one is one of the worse battery drainer on Android (I am on OnePlus 3T, 7.1.1 no root => Stock OxygenOS), however it is for some quite helpful.
A couple of years ago there was an app to reduce the timing of google location history tracking (where have you been at what time.). Basically only track location e.g. every 15 min in the background and not on a constant basis. Back then was was really reducing battery drain. Of course with navigation or other GPS based apps (Uber, Lyft, Maps...) running in the foreground the location was always "live".
I wonder if such an app is still out there today!? I am not rooted on Stock due to banking and virtual payment apps usually are blocked with unlocked bootloaders and/or root.
THANKS!
I think you are looking for https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-nlpunbounce-reduce-nlp-wakelocks-t2853874
Opening this thread because battery life could be better even though it's only ~2950mAh. Currently I'm getting a bettery life of 20h with moderate usage. So I started to gather infos about how to reduce battery drain and usage.
Improvements:
- AlwaysOnDisplay: off
- Playing now: off
- reduce brightness
Are there any Google APPs which can be safely deactivated without getting the phone lunatic nor have heavy impact on the system?
And why is the Google APP so large? On my Moto G5+ it was around 35MB and now it's ten times bigger?
TGHH said:
Opening this thread because battery life could be better even though it's only ~2950mAh. Currently I'm getting a bettery life of 20h with moderate usage. So I started to gather infos about how to reduce battery drain and usage.
Improvements:
- AlwaysOnDisplay: off
- Playing now: off
- reduce brightness
Are there any Google APPs which can be safely deactivated without getting the phone lunatic nor have heavy impact on the system?
And why is the Google APP so large? On my Moto G5+ it was around 35MB and now it's ten times bigger?
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I wondered the same as you before receiving my Pixel 3. Comjing from a Galaxy S8 battery / SoT was always an issue, I barely made it trough a whole day of work without recharging at 5 PM.
With the Pixel 3 I did the following:
- Set it up and migrate everything from the S8 (via the Assistant in the Setup screen)
- Restored my ringtones and Notification sounds
- disabled the following Apps (because I don't use them): Action Services, Android Auto, Chrome, Connectivity Health Services, Device Health Services, Device Policy, Gmail (I use Aquamail instead), Google Connectivity Services, Google Play Movies, Google Play Music, Google Suport Services, Live Transcribe, Pixel Ambient Services, Youtube (I prefer Youtube Vanced and MigroG instead)
- Set up a ton of Cal and Carddav Accounts for my personal cloud services
- Disabled the automativ battery saver (which would kick in at 15% by default)
- Set up Automate: toogle WiFi on automatically when I reach a specific location (I know this is build in, but with the build in version it doesn't switch of when I leave the location) and disable it when I leave, Disable Bluetooth when not in use for 5 Minutes, automatically activate DnD when I'm charging after a specific Time (I charge every night) and disable it when I remove it from the Qi Charger
That's what I set up because of my experience with the S8 and because I want most things automatically done.
Yesterday I pushed the phone to the limit (a whole workday plus 2 Hours Spotify and 3 Hours Gaming):
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P.S.:Sorry for the broken Link, just copy the Link into your webbrowser. I lost my old account and had to set up a new one, where I will be allowed to post links after 10 Posts
TGHH said:
Opening this thread because battery life could be better even though it's only ~2950mAh. Currently I'm getting a bettery life of 20h with moderate usage. So I started to gather infos about how to reduce battery drain and usage.
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Why don't just turn on Battery Saver? It shuts down some functions, like instant response for "Hey Google", idles background running apps etc. It also switches on dark theme at least in settings. I didn't measure exact battery life, but it feels, it lives longer. However, there were some days (I think, once in a couple months) when the battery drained almost in half in literally some hours. Since I registered it aftermath, I can not recall what could lead to that, but since I live in Los Angeles with some areas of pretty bad coverage (in hills areas, on some freeways), it's possible those caused the drainage. Also it could be the result of some glitches that Pixel is famous for, so I just rebooted it and it stopped drain the battery for that reason or because I was already out of bad coverage areas.
Since it's still April, don't forget about secret Google's signals to control all its gadgets and their owners.
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TimLux said:
I wondered the same as you before receiving my Pixel 3. Comjing from a Galaxy S8 battery / SoT was always an issue, I barely made it trough a whole day of work without recharging at 5 PM.
With the Pixel 3 I did the following:
- Set it up and migrate everything from the S8 (via the Assistant in the Setup screen)
- Restored my ringtones and Notification sounds
- disabled the following Apps (because I don't use them): Action Services, Android Auto, Chrome, Connectivity Health Services, Device Health Services, Device Policy, Gmail (I use Aquamail instead), Google Connectivity Services, Google Play Movies, Google Play Music, Google Suport Services, Live Transcribe, Pixel Ambient Services, Youtube (I prefer Youtube Vanced and MigroG instead)
- Set up a ton of Cal and Carddav Accounts for my personal cloud services
- Disabled the automativ battery saver (which would kick in at 15% by default)
- Set up Automate: toogle WiFi on automatically when I reach a specific location (I know this is build in, but with the build in version it doesn't switch of when I leave the location) and disable it when I leave, Disable Bluetooth when not in use for 5 Minutes, automatically activate DnD when I'm charging after a specific Time (I charge every night) and disable it when I remove it from the Qi Charger
That's what I set up because of my experience with the S8 and because I want most things automatically done.
Yesterday I pushed the phone to the limit (a whole workday plus 2 Hours Spotify and 3 Hours Gaming):
imagebanana.com/s/1383/8vZEWmFF.html
P.S.:Sorry for the broken Link, just copy the Link into your webbrowser. I lost my old account and had to set up a new one, where I will be allowed to post links after 10 Posts
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Your setup of apps and syncing is very close to mine! Some of the services you mentioned are still running on my Pixel. That's a good starting point for further optimisation. Very appreciate your help!
Che Kirila said:
Why don't just turn on Battery Saver? It shuts down some functions, like instant response for "Hey Google", idles background running apps etc. It also switches on dark theme at least in settings. I didn't measure exact battery life, but it feels, it lives longer. However, there were some days (I think, once in a couple months) when......
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I applied already the standards for saving battery life (AoD, etc.) and as I don't use the Google services also those I was sure it doesn't break anything. Getting rid of the services I don't use is a good start for optimise it.
b1337 said:
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Unlock and root will come by time but for now I keep it locked. ??
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Unlock and root will come by time but for now I keep it locked.
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literally no point but ok
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literally no point but ok
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Yes, it is. Loosing warranty.
Never had a problem with this since Nexus one
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Never had a problem with this since Nexus one
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Well, it's not about the process of unlocking and rooting the phone, but just the legal side.
I would not get any service for free if I unlocked it.
I rooted every phone I had but as my Pixel is new I will wait till I'm sure that there are no hardware problems occurring.
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I applied already the standards for saving battery life (AoD, etc.) and as I don't use the Google services also those I was sure it doesn't break anything. Getting rid of the services I don't use is a good start for optimise it.
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Do you mean you applied that after special mode "Battery Saver" as additions to it? That standard mode was enough for me to keep my battery charge mostly over 50% after full day.
Che Kirila said:
Do you mean you applied that after special mode "Battery Saver" as additions to it? That standard mode was enough for me to keep my battery charge mostly over 50% after full day.
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Yep, that's what I ment. I identified already one of the drainers - my Openvpn client is consuming quite a lot. After switching to Blockada (as AdBlocker) battery consumption is quite okay.
But let's see what can be achieved by further optimization.
Try to use the private DNS setting instead, I figured this would save even more battery than a locally hosted VPN
TimLux said:
Try to use the private DNS setting instead, I figured this would save even more battery than a locally hosted VPN
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I will try, but one after the other. Otherwise I don't know what was a good setting.
Seems like I found descent settings to make battery last longer. So let's see how this turns out during the week (this is my normal use case - mail, some music, business stuff, photos; I don't play!).
I'll let u know what I did, so maybe others can profit as well.
While in standby/mails/some browsing the drain is descent. While listening to some music using BT the drain is quite visible as you can see.
What?? When you use the device it uses more battery then when it sleeps? crazy
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What?? When you use the device it uses more battery then when it sleeps? crazy
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LOL - sorry, maybe misleading. Yes, I used it for reading mail, some websites. So maybe I should have written moderate use.
b1337 said:
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Which CPU mode do you use? I typically use "on demand"