diy unlocked Z force - Moto Z Questions & Answers

Hi guys any idea whether it's possible to replace the motherboard in a moto Z force with the motherboard from a moto Z that way it may be possible to obtain the advantages of the shatterproof screen, improved battery and even the camera on a platform with unlocked international firmware. Possibly the smart black gold varient and no Verizon bloat or restrictions.
The PDAF may be an issue as may be the capacity charge controller but if the monos are the same with the peripherals the only variences a unique Frankenstein build may be possible.

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LG cam plus, at&t (CBG-720) vs universal (CBG-700)

Wonder why att has their own specific version of cam plus (CBG-720). Hope it's just a super-special at&t logo, not something stupid (like restricting device from working on other g5 models)
http://www.lg.com/us/lg-friends/lg-CBG-720.AATTSV-cam-plus
Verizon/sprint/tmobile/us cellular share same model (CBG-700)
http://www.lg.com/us/lg-friends/lg-CBG-700.AVRZSV-cam-plus
Modules are whitelisted on phones - possible for generic module not to work on att's lg g5
(B&O module imported from Europe will not work on USA models)
Hello, found this out the hard way I have the ATT G5 H820 and bought the T-mobile version of the cam plus. It will not even power on after installing the module. Will be returning for correct version.
That makes no sense to me...Why would you, as a company, make carrier versions of hardware accessories? Is there any carrier branding on the CamPlus?
raynan said:
That makes no sense to me...Why would you, as a company, make carrier versions of hardware accessories? Is there any carrier branding on the CamPlus?
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being consumer-friendly is not a trait shared by some carriers/manufacturers
Mojar7070 said:
Hello, found this out the hard way I have the ATT G5 H820 and bought the T-mobile version of the cam plus. It will not even power on after installing the module. Will be returning for correct version.
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when you get an AT&T version, bring it to a t-mobile store and try it on a tmobile display phone.....
my guess is that it won't work either
There are time when a carrier request the manufacturer to make parts or accessories for their branded product only by inserting a simply code only phone with the same code that can recognized it.
This is probably the case.
these request usually will cost alot for the companies like At&t to pay LG.
It's stupid. I bought the wrong one too not even knowing there were different models of the same thing. Bunk.
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Well, so far.. THis been a year that this was discussed. I bought a camera module for my phone without knowing about the difference between At&T and other ones... Now I got a brand new Cam module that doesn`t work in my AT&T LG G5...
Do you guys know if it is possibile to bypass that by software? Or install a different firmware on the phone that will allow me to use this module?>
Thanks in advance

Best G5 variant in U.S.?

I am replacing my G5 due to signal reception problems. I may have to purchase if it is not covered on extended warranty. Thinking I will stick with the G5 since I have 360 cam, spare battery, case, and the price is low now. I am on T-mo with an H830 model. Wondering if I should buy the same or a different variant. Any thoughts?
Thanks
marcmarshall said:
I am replacing my G5 due to signal reception problems. I may have to purchase if it is not covered on extended warranty. Thinking I will stick with the G5 since I have 360 cam, spare battery, case, and the price is low now. I am on T-mo with an H830 model. Wondering if I should buy the same or a different variant. Any thoughts?
Thanks
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If you are talking about GPS signal reception, than thats a manufacturing defect affecting mostly all G5 models.
If you are talkimg about cellular reception, then you have no choice other than the H830, unless you can import a europian unlocked H850 if you want quicker official software updates, I'd assume you'll root it afterwards you buy the phone, ao just stick with another H830.

Plan to root, LG G6 or LG V30?

So my phone busted, I pulled out the G5 I've had in a drawer for awhile and the GPS doesn't work very well (never did) I drive for a living so that's not going to work.
I found a refurbished G6 (with warranty) and a used V30 for about the same price, I was hoping to root to get rid of bloatware and boost performance if possible, any pros vs cons of either or any help deciding would be greatly appreciated
Ps: I'm a noob to rooting
rippin209 said:
So my phone busted, I pulled out the G5 I've had in a drawer for awhile and the GPS doesn't work very well (never did) I drive for a living so that's not going to work.
I found a refurbished G6 (with warranty) and a used V30 for about the same price, I was hoping to root to get rid of bloatware and boost performance if possible, any pros vs cons of either or any help deciding would be greatly appreciated
Ps: I'm a noob to rooting
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1) All V30/V30+/V30S can be bootloader unlocked and rooted.
2) Even without bootloader unlock and root, the V30 is much better than the G6. Late 2017 V30 is what the early 2017 G6 should have been, but wasn't. G6 had "regionalized" specs for different variants, and old 2016 Snapdragon.
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LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging (all variants)
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC (all variants)
* DTS 3D stereo (with root to enable LG libs)
* FM Radio
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root (all variants)
* no notch
ChazzMatt said:
1) All V30/V30+/V30S can be bootloader unlocked and rooted.
2) Even without bootloader unlock and root, the V30 is much better than the G6. Late V30 is what the early G6 should have been, but wasn't. G6 had "regionalized" specs for different variants, and old 2016 Snapdragon.
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LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging (all variants)
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC (all variants)
* DTS 3D stereo (with root to enable LG libs)
* FM Radio
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root (all variants)
* no notch
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Ordered the V30
Should arrive Thursday but I won't get to it until next week (family plans for the weekend)
I plan on going through the step by step guide to rooting as soon as possible, any tips tricks, or recommended downloads for someone new to rooting?
rippin209 said:
Ordered the V30
Should arrive Thursday but I won't get to it until next week (family plans for the weekend)
I plan on going through the step by step guide to rooting as soon as possible, any tips tricks, or recommended downloads for someone new to rooting?
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What variant did you buy? LS998, H931, H930, etc?
Where do you live (what country) and if in U.S., what carrier?
If you live in U.S., hope you didn't buy any of the H930 variants due to lack of U.S. frequencies...
LS998
I'm already on sprint anyway
rippin209 said:
LS998
I'm already on sprint anyway
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OK. When it arrives, activate on Sprint first before making any changes.
I would like to get rid of as much of the sprint apps as possible as well as get rid of some of LG's stuff such friends and their fitness app anything piggybacking on actual needed software or are those safe to delete?
I'm sure there are others I'd like to get rid of but that's all that's coming to mind without the actual phone in my hand
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OK. When it arrives, activate on Sprint first before making any changes.
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Thanks I'll be sure to do that first
I still need to inspect and diagnose as much as possible before investing time into it anyway
I couldn't get the secret menu to work on my G5 I imagine it'll be the same with the V30
Something they got rid of or restricted accesses to with a security patch or something?
rippin209 said:
I would like to get rid of as much of the sprint apps as possible as well as get rid of some of LG's stuff such friends and their fitness app anything piggybacking on actual needed software or are those safe to delete?
I'm sure there are others I'd like to get rid of but that's all that's coming to mind without the actual phone in my hand
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We can talk more when you get your phone. While there are some things you can uninstall like the social media apps, be very careful uninstalling system apps. It's safer to freeze them in Titanium Backup than to try to actually remove them.
People get irritated when they hear that, but a lot of this firmware is interconnected. You can remove something you don't think you want or need and it affects something you do need.
Best to freeze it. It's not running, it's not visible -- and if you find something has been affected you can easily unfreeze it.
Lots of people have tried to remove a whole bunch of stuff, then complain how much the phone is lagging. Whereas this firmware (latter Oreo especially) is very optimized with pure stock. I'm running rooted stock firmware with some Magisk and Xposed mods.
Again we can discuss this further when you actually get your phone and it's rooted.
Ok, I got the V30 but now I'm having trouble activating it, can anyone tell me what model sim card I'm supposed to use with sprint?
The people working at sprint didn't know and I only found one source online, it said W416Q, I just want to make sure I don't simply have the wrong sim cardView attachment 4869561
Ok update I've got the phone working with both data and calling, I'm going to read up and plan on touring as soon as possible
Just to verify I'm still curious about the SIM card,just want to make sure I'm not missing any bands or anything
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I also did part time gig jobs driving, used to use LG G5 before that had major GPS issues (GPS location on phone used to be off by about 30 feet). I also replaced it and have LG G6, V30, and V35. For practical reasons I found LG G6 to be more driver friendly due to it's size/form factor, it's easier to handle it while your hands when you are busy carrying 5 Amazon boxes for deliveries lol. V30 is a lot bigger/wider phone and I have dropped it a few times because of that. You can put tempered glass screen protectors easily on the G6 and a rubber/tpu slim case gives a good grip on holding the phone. For LG V30, glass screen protectors don't work for me (I use skinomi wet screen protector) because of the curved edges and almost all the tpu cases I have bought for it on eBay and Amazon leave the screen exposed beyond the case edge making it more vulnerable to damage from falls. As far as using the phone itself, they are both great phones with V30 being more responsive due to more powerful chip in it.
The Oled screen is more vibrant and colors look awesome on the V30 but be warned that these types of screens easily get LCD burn-in and for drivers who have navigation apps open on the screen for hours, it is even more likely that you will get a LCD burn issue on a V30 where a ghost image of the navigation app burns into screen permanently and shows on screen at all times especially against white or bright backgrounds (this is why you will find a LOT of V30 phones with LCD burns on sale on eBay and elsewhere). I used a G6 for a couple of years doing gig jobs and in my experience IPS LCD display holds out pretty well with extended screen-on times. Although, I did notice bright spots appearing on screens after a while on a couple of my LG G6 phones that I used.
Unlocking bootloader and rooting is easy on both phones as there are great guides by devs Runningnak3d, ChazzMatt and JohnFawkes. SInce you own LS998, as ChazzMatt mentioned in his WTF post, you might wanna look up JohnFawkes's TWRP flashable stock rom which has some useful modifications.
Edit: Personally, I own and use both G6 and V30, most times I use G6 for work lol and then swap sim back into V30 when not working. As for my V35 it is too fancy to be used for anything LOL, a really great phone probably the best LG phone I have ever owned, just wish it could be rooted.
I actually like the G5 a bit, the screen is sharp and clear (could be brighter though) and talk about burn in, but it worked well for me and i really liked the infared blaster
The most noticeable difference is the size and the brightness of the OLED on the V30
I actually had a V30 that I leased through sprint on a promotional deal I paid $7 a month for the phone but i paid $15 a month for insurance, i had that for 18 months. either way the point is I've used both phones for awhile as well as a G6 for a little while in between (i was actually fine with that but my G6 crapped out (motherboard, same as my G4 before that) and there was that deal on the V30 it looks and works great
Because my last V30 was owned by sprint i didn't think about rooting but now I'm excited to see what this phone can do at its full potential
I don't recall any burn in issue with the V30, i didn't realise that was still an issue with OLED, besides i usually have my brightness set at 75% unless I'm watching a movie on my phone
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[Motherboard compatibility] From H872 to H870 or even H870DSU, convert your LG G6 !

Hello there!
I just wanted to tell you an interesting information about a successful operation for my lg g6.
So few month ago I purchased a cheap lg g6 from a store here in France for my father.
Therefore it was an AT&T model (h872 or 871 or 873), many band where missing and I hated the fact that it is still locked, no rom, no root... all of what we don't like from an android phone.
So I had the idea to swap the motherboard with another model!
As those are cheap in aliexpr... it costed about 40€ for me to get an h870 motherboard, I even had the opportunity to buy the h870ds quad dac and h870dsu (g6+ 128gb rom) for 60-80€, therefore as those are poor in dev section regarding rom, I prefered to go with a traditionnal h870 european version.
Obviously, I've done A LOT of repair, that's why I figured out the compatibility between motherboard, here are the reason:
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-No different LCD like LG g2 (flashback about LCD only compatible with specific motherboard, different connector etc etc...)
That mean that the main screen is all board compatible
-Same frame for all model (when you search for LG g6 Frame, you don't have any distinction between model , else it'll be : Frame for LG G6 h873/870/... specified)
it mean that every part are in the same place: battery, speaker, type C connector etc etc....
-No difference in physical layout between different motherboard (by comparing visual shot).
The only difference is in the kind of shell that cover the cpu and gpu, which depend on the manufacturing date.
And the Wireless charging/NFC pin. either 4 pin for both, 2 for nfc only, 0 for none of those option. (doesn't matter for making the phone work, it's just an extra that detect if the nfc/wireless sticker is here)
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It's confirmed to work from any h87x to h870 mainboard replacement.
And i'm 99% sure it'll work with an h870ds, And even h870DSU (therefore, poor XDA dev thread on those model).
using the same material for all board is cost effective for LG, So I can say that, if you really want to move on to a another hardware version, take 40 bucks and a screwdriver!
...Well, I know that modding a software seems easier, but be confident, follow instruction, be gentle with part, don't put any kind of force... repairing is easy, so it is to replace a motherboard.
While you're into it, put thermal past in the cpu to improve thermal temp. And don't forget to remove the simtray
thx
This is a very cool idea. Has anyone actually tried updating a G6 to a G6+ this way? I'd be curious to hear your experience.

XT2061-3 global with mmWave module

Looking at a few teardown videos of the Moto Edge Plus, I noticed the Verizon version has a QTM525 5g module, while the global version does not. It doesn't have the pcb connector either, but it does have solder points where the connector would be.
I am wondering if it would be possible to install this 5g module onto the global version allowing for mmWave 5g bands in the US.
I bought a broken 5G UW phone on ebay that should have this module and connector and I will be trying to install it on this phone.
What I need to know is how the 5G is handled. Both phones use the same modem, so I'm willing to bet it will work, but I don't know if I will need to flash the Verizon firmware in order to access it. I have requested from Motorola the kernel and device tree for this both versions so I can see if this connectivity is enabled through software or if it's automatically enabled when the hardware is present.
Parts List
5G mmWave module - Qualcomm QTM525
Female board connector - Novastack 20865-010E-03
Some kind of carrier chip that goes on the board and holds the connector
I bought a broken TCL 10 5G UW that supports mmwave so hopefully it has all the parts I need. I'm hoping this solder pattern on the board isn't proprietary to burton
Does anyone have any ideas about this?
I can't wait to see if this works! Awesome
I received the TCL phone yesterday and sure enough, it has the QTM525 module. It doesn't seem to have the carrier board like the Moto, so I have no way of easily removing the connector and soldering to moto board. I don't even think I'd be able to without the carrier board because the solder points don't seem to match.
I also ordered a new moto edge+ screen that got here yesterday and didn't realize that it was scratched before destroying my old one... so now I'm still deciding on what to do with it.

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