Few answers for European users waiting for Nougat - ZTE Axon 7 Guides, News, & Discussion

Heres a bit of an update for you guys!
> When Nougat is released it will be the Android 7.1.1 version.
-- It will take some time to finish, they are perfecting it as the USA version released too early and was found to have many bugs after release, the beta test was too short.
> Root is still in the process - Am unsure if this is for Nougat/Marshmallow and how this is going to work, but internally the process has sped up now, so we will see it after Nougat release.
Hope this helps.

Mind sharing source of the information?

He is lying i would never trust him.

mario972 said:
Mind sharing source of the information?
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I do mind, but it comes from ZTE.

Haha just kidding, its true what rikin93 said zte said that in the beta tester group.

good to hear

This is such good news!! Made my day

But 7.1 will take a bit longer. They actually testing it intern before we test it in the beta.

I sure hope that proper device encryption (including password at bootup that is used for encrypting the internal storage) will be supported for A2017G soon. They promised it for B10 but it didn't seem to have it made into that release. I still have hope that it will show up in Nougat. Is it actually present in the A2017U Nougat release?

There will be official method to unlock phone as you said few weeks ago ?

hnzlgrmpf said:
I sure hope that proper device encryption (including password at bootup that is used for encrypting the internal storage) will be supported for A2017G soon. They promised it for B10 but it didn't seem to have it made into that release. I still have hope that it will show up in Nougat. Is it actually present in the A2017U Nougat release?
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A2017U has a password ta bootup in Nougat. Wasn't present in MM.

Good to hear that but personally I have my doubts will get directly 7.1.1.
But ZTE should had focus from beginning to that version since have been delay the upgrade to 7.
Since we will get it within March so they are having plenty of time for preparation and no excuse of getting 7 instead of 7.1.1.
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Not quite right
There's a similar topic on the official german forum about this. It was commented by ZTE staff yesterday:
"Hello Axon 7 friends!
It seems to be false statement about the update. I want to correct it:
ZTE Germany will publish Android 7.0 at least at the end of the first quarter of the year.
The confusion might have been occurred since the developers are already working on 7.1.
Your Z-Community-Team"
Source: ztemobile.de/forums/topic/android-7-0-nougat/page/4/#post-4370

But before nougat update you have to stay with b10 or can i update from b08?
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mario972 said:
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His bedrooms computer.

Nougat for EU will come in April.

dodo34 said:
Nougat for EU will come in April.
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How do you know? The beta testers haven't this info.

dodo34 said:
Nougat for EU will come in April.
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Excellent. I will have moved to a better phone by then.
The signal on this phone is so poor compared to other phones. The sound is great but the software is slow and buggy. The camera is awful compared to many mid range phones. And the support is just rubbish. I'm afraid it was cheap for a reason.
It is only the sound which keeps me using this phone. The new LG will have a quad DAC and that will remove that need. It's a shame but when you compare this phone to my main daily driver - an iPhone 7 Plus (I always carry two phones for various reasons), this is a poor relative, way way behind in 2nd place. If my Note 5 (my other alternative for my second phone) had half decent sound, this phone would have been sold ages ago....

dodo34 said:
Nougat for EU will come in April.
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Give us sources for that please.
apd said:
Excellent. I will have moved to a better phone by then.
The signal on this phone is so poor compared to other phones. The sound is great but the software is slow and buggy. The camera is awful compared to many mid range phones. And the support is just rubbish. I'm afraid it was cheap for a reason.
It is only the sound which keeps me using this phone. The new LG will have a quad DAC and that will remove that need. It's a shame but when you compare this phone to my main daily driver - an iPhone 7 Plus (I always carry two phones for various reasons), this is a poor relative, way way behind in 2nd place. If my Note 5 (my other alternative for my second phone) had half decent sound, this phone would have been sold ages ago....
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Well with quality control issue with several LG flagship latest years I wish you really good good luck.
You will need 100%.
Also with 3200 battery at 5.7 inches with battery hungry and horrible quality LCD screen LG provide men you will be the best wall charging friends.
With the exception of low light camera performance everywhere else it's at top level and 6 months having the device not had any issue mention.
Before Axon 7 had S7 Edge so you can count that if wasn't pleased I would have returned back to Samsung very easy to me.
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paatha13 said:
Well with quality control issue with several LG flagship latest years I wish you really good good luck.
You will need 100%.
Also with 3200 battery at 5.7 inches with battery hungry and horrible quality LCD screen LG provide men you will be the best wall charging friends.
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What utter nonsense. The modular G5 was plainly a stupid idea. The G4, V10 and V20 were much better. I suspect Samsung will also start adopting decent DACs as well.
Battery life? Also nonsense. My Note 5 has a 5.7" screen and a 3200 battery and lasts as long as, if not longer than, the Axon.
As to signal, I have tested the two side by side and the Axon always loses signal much more quickly. I am not alone in this - loads of reports of it. Bluetooth? Pathetic.
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With the exception of low light camera performance everywhere else it's at top level
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Low light performance ? What about average or high light performance. By modern standards, the camera really is appalling.
And top level performance? Really? Mine (and many others) has never upgraded itself. I have always had to download the updates and apply them. Each upgrade has brought major bugs and the OS skin is appalling (let's not even discuss the notification bell) and buggy. I am not being subjective here - put it next to a Note 5 (which has a much older processor and awful, slow touchwiz) and you will see how the axon is so much less smooth and really struggles when you put it through its paces.
I am not trolling - I have just been around for a long time and seen what is possible in the evolution of phones. Other than the sound quality (which is phenomenal, even if the Bluetooth strength is absolutely crap compared to other phones) the Axon 7 just does not stack up. It wouldn't be an issue if it had been a really cheap phone....
Yes, it is ahead of the OP3 (but probably not the 3T) but that is hardly a good benchmark, not least given the prices
Just my two cents. Not expecting agreement in an Axon 7 forum!!!

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G2 in 2017

All discussions about buying new phone or advise not to upgrade goes in this thread.
Personally, I wouldn't mind keeping the G2 but I will need to replace the battery on mine if I shall keep using it. Normal since I've had the phone for 2 years now.
I got the phone for almost 3 years now, never changed the battery - always charging with LG's charger and having nice battery life [CM and Stock, whatever you prefer]
I don't see any good reason to move on, nothing has dramatically changed yet. Fingerprint? Wireless charging?
So I think we can stick to our good old G2 for a bit more...
My G2 has 3 years already and is perfect. I picked it up already used and still have nice battery life, around 5 to 7 hours of SOT. I'm on my second G2, this one with 32GB of internal memory and I don't see any good reason to spend a lot of money that I don't have on a new device that doesn't add that much. I plan to keep my G2 for like one year or more. Don't really feel changing it anytime soon.
Would be nice to have a really functionality MM rom. I tested most roms, but the camera and sound are bad. The smoothness of the custom Roms are very good. So what to do? I think the Rom development stocks. I have to stay on stock Rom to have all working fine. But in future I see apps not working or very laggy working with the "old" LP Rom. So my experience in the past with my tab.
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3 years here too. Not gonna make it much longer, the digitizer is going bad on the bottom left. Looking at the Pixel, but want to wait to make sure there are no manufacturing issues (like exploding) before I take the plunge. I have a Nexus 9, I'm not too confident in HTC's build quality after the problems I've had with it.
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3 years here too. Not gonna make it much longer, the digitizer is going bad on the bottom left. Looking at the Pixel, but want to wait to make sure there are no manufacturing issues (like exploding) before I take the plunge. I have a Nexus 9, I'm not to confident in HTC's build quality after the problems I've had with it.
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Same thought.
I have g2 from 1 year. I have the 16 gb variant. I must tell that maybe i need less lags, a microsd slot and a lot of more battery... But i must keep it for another year, i can't change it.
I'm thinking in get another phone just because 16gb isn't enough anymore.
If I could find some hack to expand this 16gb internal storage, I would do it.
maxwellz said:
I don't see any good reason to move on, nothing has dramatically changed yet. Fingerprint? Wireless charging?
So I think we can stick to our good old G2 for a bit more...
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Thats so true, realy no need for any new phone now, everything still works fluently.
Too bad Dorimanx and others already quit g2 developement and not much new developers
Second G2 here, the 32GB variety, I swapped out my first G2(16Gb) to the G3 hoping for all that upgrade coolness - nope, then the OnePlus1 - cheaper than the G3 etc, but the size started to bother me. So, I went back to the G2, I still have the 16GB first one which was battered close to death by my resident teenager so I picked up the second one very cheaply and would not swap it for anything. To my eyes and hands nothing made after it looks or handles much better, the G2 still has one of the best screen-to-size ratios - my favourite thing about it! I'm Running OrionOS MM, getting up to 5 hours screen time, LGCamera from the Playstore does a fair job of replacing the stock one, it even does 1080p @ 60fps. Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
FatherD said:
Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Same here, im thinking to maybe invest in some wireless headphones but then again, having to charge headphones almost daily may just make things even more annoying
Anyone who (upgraded) from G2 to OnePlus 3 with any thoughts about how the two devices compare?
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Anyone who (upgraded) from G2 to OnePlus 3 with any thoughts about how the two devices compare?
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No Oneplus 3 yet, I have this phone:
- G2 D802(32gb) bought new since 2013 I think
- G Pro2 32gb F350L, this device just similar to G2 but 5.9 inch screen, 3gb ram+sd card and much better sound from my experience.
- Htc one M8 32gb, this phone screen/speaker is good and performance is all right and reliable.
I have ordered Lg G4 (F500) it's coming in few days, so I will try it.
They are not new devices but with root and custom rom they still work quite good for me.
I think now you can get really good phone for $250-$400 with Xiaomi Mi5/5s, LeEco Pro2/3, Zuk Z2/Pro, Oneplus 3, Lg G5 so many choices. For speed I seen reviews Oneplus 3 is top dog, with new Huawei Honor8 5.2inch is good too if you like small phone.
For good multimedia/audio experience maybe Lenovo Vibe X3 cost less than ZTE Axzon 7 in my opinion.
by next year, our beloved G2 will have android nougat that too stable version , thanks to developers working all day and night.
rR28 said:
by next year, our beloved G2 will have android nougat that too stable version , thanks to developers working all day and night.
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We already have Nougat, some more stable than others AICP,CRdroid etc
Treboeth said:
We already have Nougat, some more stable than others AICP,CRdroid etc
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link please, can we use it as daily driver? taking pics, no heating prob, battery life and smooth and lag free?
FatherD said:
Second G2 here, the 32GB variety, I swapped out my first G2(16Gb) to the G3 hoping for all that upgrade coolness - nope, then the OnePlus1 - cheaper than the G3 etc, but the size started to bother me. So, I went back to the G2, I still have the 16GB first one which was battered close to death by my resident teenager so I picked up the second one very cheaply and would not swap it for anything. To my eyes and hands nothing made after it looks or handles much better, the G2 still has one of the best screen-to-size ratios - my favourite thing about it! I'm Running OrionOS MM, getting up to 5 hours screen time, LGCamera from the Playstore does a fair job of replacing the stock one, it even does 1080p @ 60fps. Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Could you give me a link to webcam app?
Let us know how you like the G4.
Have to agree with how many choices are available for 250-400!
So many good phones are out now
Moon75 said:
No Oneplus 3 yet, I have this phone:
- G2 D802(32gb) bought new since 2013 I think
- G Pro2 32gb F350L, this device just similar to G2 but 5.9 inch screen, 3gb ram+sd card and much better sound from my experience.
- Htc one M8 32gb, this phone screen/speaker is good and performance is all right and reliable.
I have ordered Lg G4 (F500) it's coming in few days, so I will try it.
They are not new devices but with root and custom rom they still work quite good for me.
I think now you can get really good phone for $250-$400 with Xiaomi Mi5/5s, LeEco Pro2/3, Zuk Z2/Pro, Oneplus 3, Lg G5 so many choices. For speed I seen reviews Oneplus 3 is top dog, with new Huawei Honor8 5.2inch is good too if you like small phone.
For good multimedia/audio experience maybe Lenovo Vibe X3 cost less than ZTE Axzon 7 in my opinion.
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I just love my g2. Is there anything in the market similar ? After three years the main problems for me are scratched rear camera. Bluetooth needing reboots to work. And finally the constant need after rebooting to enter a code to change to 4g. Won't be changing it any time soon.
jasminder said:
I just love my g2. Is there anything in the market similar ? After three years the main problems for me are scratched rear camera. Bluetooth needing reboots to work. And finally the constant need after rebooting to enter a code to change to 4g. Won't be changing it any time soon.
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Sounds like custom ROM problems. Try sticking to LG based ROMs - if you already are, then try an LG kitkat ROM. 4.4 has always worked best for me.

Is the G5 a good upgrade?

Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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The price and specs are great. The rom/root community is okay size. Build quality is trash. Don't buy this phone. With a little more money you could buy the One Plus 3T or One Plus 5. Better specs, build quality, rom/root, etc.
My next phone is Note 8 or One plus 3T or 5. I am not trying to bash phone. Just giving you an honest opinion. Look through the threads you will see tons of people with GPS, Backlight Bleed, bootloop issues, etc. I love LG, but will be my last LG phone for a long time.
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I'm looking to get the H850 for my mom since it is only $300CAD if I get my friend to bring it back from Hong Kong. Can't find any another phone in that price range that would be better than the LG G5 H850...
Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
I can't agree about bad quality of build. I would say its very good comparing to what else you can meet nowadays.
Other than that, it's one of the best phones available for 250$ on B&H (Titan) if not the only good one.
Yeah not sure about other countries, but in Canada it's hard to beat the LG G5. OnePlus 3T/5 are $600/$650CAD+tax respectively and the G5 can be found for $330-370 all in. Even 2016 mid-range phones like the Axon 7 and Honor 8 are $400-$500+tax.
Build quality isn't up to par with other flagships, but it's not terrible IMO. At least it's better than most mid-range phones.
It is a lottery phone.
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It is a lottery phone.
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I would have to agree with this statement.
Build quality is pretty bad guys sorry. I've had plenty of low/Mid/High end of phones. I've never seen this many issues as this one. When I see GPS and backlight bleed threads filled with countless complaints. Yeah that's bad build quality.
Damiloveu statement pretty much sums it up right it's a lottery phone. 50/50 hit or miss, be for warned potential new g5 buyers. GREAT phone if no issues. And if it does have problems many headaches await you.
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dimon222 said:
Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
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I would install Fulmics on the LG G5 if I can get it for my mom, so the RS988 is out of the question for me. I just cannot buy phones if I cannot install custom ROMs on it. I hate being at the mercy of manufacturers for software updates.
I'm so confused as to why manufacturers cannot just sell one or two variant of the same phone. Making dozens of variants seems so stupid.
coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
Thanks a lot, everybody. I think I'll get this phone, it features literally *every* feature I need on a device.
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coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
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I got a used AT&T H820 and it had the GPS issue, especially worse when cloudy and rainy. However, I returned the AT&T one and got an unlocked RS988 and I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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If you need a hot swappable battery, the G5 is great.
If you game a lot, and want the ability to do so without remaining plugged in and burning up your phone, then the G5 is perfect for you.
As far as performance, no issues whatsoever.
Battery life is average, but with the ability to swap out new batteries and charge dead ones outside the phone in a charging port, you honestly don't have battery downtime. It's just always up.
That's the biggest advantage of this phone.
If you're looking for a better deal, you don't need unlimited battery life, or you're looking for a rich featureset, I would look elsewhere.
The gps is absolute wank and I don't have the time or inclination to do a hardware fix. I did a quick comparison with my friend who owns an OP3 indoors; his had gps lock with 15 seconds but mine was still searching after several minutes. In fact, I have almost missed turnings when driving a few times because of this POS. I never replace my phone until it has had 18 months usage but for the G5, I will make an exception.
I have LG G5 since April 2016 after my Note 3 : no root or anything, LG updates regulary.
I never have problems with it.
-No bootloop, no GPS bugs, a better reception with the same carrier...
-Camera is really good, especially the large wide-angle.
-Battery life: a day with a little use (waze to go work -one hour/day) wifi on, "always on display" always activate, some internet at evening : Facebook, Twitter, insta, mails...
-IR for soundbar, tv is really good !!
But no SPen ? So I will get the Note 8, really great for work, with the camera options easier than LG suit.
And finally, i prefer Samsung environment, even if G5 is really a good phone.
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It's not worth the broken GPS sensors which are a known hardware defect. They'll fix it for you, but it's never the root of the problem so it will come back. I've sent mine in 3 times, GPS works for a couple days, then ceases to work again. Terrible quality control, by far the worst phone I've owned. My Galaxy S4 was better.
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
alldine345 said:
well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
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Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
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Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
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yeep, my biggest regret were i didnt read much about lg g5, infact i read too many about it so i skip the most important things. from what i gather around the web, g5 has 2 version. G5 and g5 SE. the g5 has snap820, 4gb ram and single sim, while g5 SE had snap 625, 3GB ram and dualsim. i use 2 simcard one for main use and another for data connection. and h860 has both advantages from 2 g5 version, snap 820/4gb ram and Dualsim support. i didnt bother to check on XDA for root method as i though it just the same as samsung or HTC, even with many varian usually all of them has the same exploit. i never though i would be so wrong on my life . and for the HTC part, well what can i say, here in indonesia we didnt have official HTC service centre so if we had a malfunction devices we just need to fix it on our own . same goes to LG G5 since the only one that they sold here were g5 SE, some friend of mine already bought g5 from singapore last year and when his screen broke he sent it to LG centre but they refuse it, they said the only accept g5 SE. so i'm totally aware when i bought those devices, i cant rely on warranty or official services. and its not the first time, usually lot of devices which sold here were downgraded version comparing to international one. like
note 3 on international version they had snap801 and lte support while official one the had stupid exynoss and 3g only. same goes with Note 5 snapdragon inter vs exynoss local, and also xiaomi devices, huawei, and many other brands which i dont remember anymore. thats why, many people here usually bought new/second hand devices from another country because they want to feel the real experience while also acknowledge they cant bring it to official service centre when it broke later.
Hell no.

Is LG G5 still a good phone?

Hello, i have a big question, the same as title. For now i have Huawei Honor 8, an awesome phone with a great design and good battery life (4h sot). The problem is that i want to gave the H8 away for a G5 because i want a phone with a good development comunity. Is this a right decision?
Sheldd said:
Hello, i have a big question, the same as title. For now i have Huawei Honor 8, an awesome phone with a great design and good battery life (4h sot). The problem is that i want to gave the H8 away for a G5 because i want a phone with a good development comunity. Is this a right decision?
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Don't, just don't.
ChristopherXI said:
Don't, just don't.
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Reasons?
I just returned my RS988 model G5 a few days ago. GPS would bug out during use, battery life sucked (<4hrs SoT with casual use - messaging/web browsing), screen burn in issues and uneven screen lighting. I thought it was just my particular unit, but further research showed these issues are common. It's a good phone if you get way under the MSRP. There are other phones that last longer and have better quality control for $250. Like Motorola's budget phones, or lower end Samsungs.
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Spotty GPS. 50/50 chance of screen burn in.
70/30 chance of getting a unit that has HORRID cell signal.
Poor dev support across all models (except h850 and h830).
LG quality control is horrible, some unit even bootlooped because the CPU separating from the PCB.
ChristopherXI said:
Spotty GPS. 50/50 chance of screen burn in.
70/30 chance of getting a unit that has HORRID cell signal.
Poor dev support across all models (except h850 and h830).
LG quality control is horrible, some unit even bootlooped because the CPU separating from the PCB.
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Refer to
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/6vy8qp/would_you_recommend_this_phone/
for why the G5 does not bootloop. I bit the bullet and got one used. No problems whatsoever, strong GPS, strong reception, a little burn in but no showstoppers.
The quality control issues were a thing when the device was launched, I'd say you have a pretty small chance of getting a faulty one now.
Sheldd said:
Hello, i have a big question, the same as title. For now i have Huawei Honor 8, an awesome phone with a great design and good battery life (4h sot). The problem is that i want to gave the H8 away for a G5 because i want a phone with a good development comunity. Is this a right decision?
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I wouldn't advice it at all.
Especially when you want to flash custom rom. In this case BTcalls doesn't work and neither quick charge
And sooner or later you will probably suffer from gps issue…
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Honor 8 vs. LG G5
Sheldd said:
Hello, i have a big question, the same as title. For now i have Huawei Honor 8, an awesome phone with a great design and good battery life (4h sot). The problem is that i want to gave the H8 away for a G5 because i want a phone with a good development comunity. Is this a right decision?
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Honor 8 owner here. Had an LG G3 before the H8 (I've had the Honor 8 for close to a year). Just bought a G5 off Amazon. I wrote myself a comparison review to help me decide if the G5 would be an upgrade or not. I believe it is. I won't post the whole thing here, but in brief...
There are several sellers on Amazon and eBay that are selling the G5 new for $200 - $235. I got a new G5, a larger 3500mah battery, and a clear case for less than $260. FWIW, I've read the battery upgrade has 'fixed' some of the known issues. If one were to go out and buy an Honor 8 today, the price would be roughly the same.
In my opinion, the G5 wins on specs alone, but adding to that things like replaceable battery and amazing camera helped influence my decision.
A couple of things gave me the final push. One was extensive reviews of other devices in the $250 price range and the other is having the ability to install ROMs like LineageOS or Fulmics. Current Fulmics is based on the v20. Oreo has a good chance of coming to the v20. Not saying it's a cinch that the G5 will get Android O, but there is that possibility. While LineageOS has a ways to go on the G5, I'm hopeful it will continue to mature and grow.
You have a lot of good choices if you look at 2016 flagship Android phones. But the G5 is the least expensive and is readily available. Some will say it's cheap for a reason, but I still think it's a good buy.
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Honor 8 owner here. Had an LG G3 before the H8 (I've had the Honor 8 for close to a year). Just bought a G5 off Amazon. I wrote myself a comparison review to help me decide if the G5 would be an upgrade or not. I believe it is. I won't post the whole thing here, but in brief...
There are several sellers on Amazon and eBay that are selling the G5 new for $200 - $235. I got a new G5, a larger 3500mah battery, and a clear case for less than $260. FWIW, I've read the battery upgrade has 'fixed' some of the known issues. If one were to go out and buy an Honor 8 today, the price would be roughly the same.
In my opinion, the G5 wins on specs alone, but adding to that things like replaceable battery and amazing camera helped influence my decision.
A couple of others things gave me the final push. One was extensive reviews of other devices in the $250 price range and the other is having the ability to install ROMs like LineageOS or Fulmics. Current Fulmics is based on the v20. Oreo has a good chance of coming to the v20. Not saying it's a cinch that the G5 will get Android O, but there is that possibility. While LineageOS has a ways to go on the G5, I'm hopeful it will continue to mature and grow.
You have a lot of good choices if you look at 2016 flagship Android phones. But the G5 is the least expensive and is readily available. Some will say it's cheap for a reason, but I still think it's a good buy.
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Please tell me about big bugs on G5 custom roms. Is it true that the quick charge doesnt work? If yes, on wich roms? And how good is fulmics? Looks like an intresting rom. How much sot do you get with the old 2.800 and new 3.5 battery?
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Please tell me about big bugs on G5 custom roms. Is it true that the quick charge doesnt work? If yes, on wich roms? And how good is fulmics? Looks like an intresting rom. How much sot do you get with the old 2.800 and new 3.5 battery?
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My LG G5 is still quite new. I will be running stock for a while before I dive back in to custom ROMs. After a couple more days, I'll post SOT with the 3500 battery.
When I ran Fulmics on my G3 last year, it was a great ROM. I think I needed a bit more horsepower than the G3 had to offer at the time. But with the G5 and it's Snapdragon 820, that should not be a problem.
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i want a phone with a good development comunity.
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how do you define good? I came from years of owning Samsung Galaxy devices, which have huge dev communities. The G5 dev community pales in comparison, but perhaps the G5 dev community is typical for non-Galaxy devices. I'm happy with the rom options for the G5. Fulmic's ROM is a great custom ROM. Autoprime is good about releasing stock ROM updates if you want to debloat and customize yourself.
Lg h830 stock nougat rom

Nexus 6P the last fun phone on XDA?

Is it just me or is the Nexus 6p the last real flashers paradise? I feel this phone got supported to the moon and back for ROMs and kernels and even now still continues to get so much love. Heck there are more pie ROMs on the forums for this phone then phones that actually officially got pie.
It's really making me hesitant to upgrade even though I just unfortunately got plagued with the blod two weeks ago. Running a nice pie rom with the occasional reboot but heck I'm still having a good time. What's everyone else whose still rocking a 6p thinking?
I just got one because the used prices are unbelievable on this thing.
I've had audio issues since the beginning (low volume on earpiece and muffled audio through mic), so I cannot use this phone as a phone without using wired or wireless headsets.
Everything else has been great. Good camera, nice screen, premium body.
I am looking forward to the day when I will buy a new phone and start making calls with confidence
By far the best phone I have ever owned!!! And I have had every Galaxy from the s2 and note 1 to the s7 and note 6. And a LG g2x. I didn't even root this phone till a few month ago. It just worked fine the way it was. The only reason I rooted was because I knew end of life updates was approaching and so I wanted to continue on with lineage 15.1 and soon 16.
The 6p just went in for a new battery because my wife has it now. I was gifted a og pixel. So far the pixel is a great phone too
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I just got one because the used prices are unbelievable on this thing.
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Totally true. The prices took a deep dive over the last month. Refurbished going for $60 to $80. Be aware refurbished doesn't mean a new battery. Have fun while it lasts or be willing to shell out an extra $50 minimum. It's a solid buy even with a battery repair.
Yes and No. 6T has plenty of activity for a phone just released. If you check Github, 6T already has repos for device for LineageOS based ROMs and AOSP ROMs. There are already custom kernels available. Anyone who can follow instructions on the wonderful tutorials posted on XDA can start porting any ROM to 6T.
The add-on and mods is thriving already. Quick look? 6T stereo speaker mod, uses the earpiece speaker to create stereo sound. Ported Pixel cam to 6T to get the nightmode and HDR+ for 6T. Notification light mod using ambient display to compensate for lack of notification LED. Changing color and animation for the on-screen fingerprint. There are more, it's active.
And have to consider this. For a lot of the 6T users on XDA, the OxgenOS is already the best Android OS available. I'm likely to be in the same boat, from what I've seen, I don't see any reason to use a custom rom. I'll flash a custom kernel, magisk, adblocker, the stereo speaker mod and the Pixel Camera. With that, it's the closest to perfect SD 845 equipped large phablet on the market.
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Is it just me or is the Nexus 6p the last real flashers paradise? I feel this phone got supported to the moon and back for ROMs and kernels and even now still continues to get so much love. Heck there are more pie ROMs on the forums for this phone then phones that actually officially got pie.
It's really making me hesitant to upgrade even though I just unfortunately got plagued with the blod two weeks ago. Running a nice pie rom with the occasional reboot but heck I'm still having a good time. What's everyone else whose still rocking a 6p thinking?
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Im think and feel like you OP.This is "The One" for me.Is a elegant device,good display,octa core and i had not mention yet the biggest reason why i love the 6P.....THE SPEAKERS!!!! I mean,right now theres not a single device out there that sound better than my 6P.Everytime i use YouTube around public you then can see people looking for that awesome sound.It is like they thinking " what the fu#$ is that"..lol.I change the battery 4 month ago and still running with 8 cores(default).I went a little far about this and bought the HTC 10,the ZTE axon 7 mini and Sony Xperia Performance.Do you guys know why? Because all of those devices have front stereo speakers.Then i begin to root all those devices to be able to use Viper.In the end,theres not competition for the 6P.Im using pie rom,and i will keep using this bad boy until it dies.
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Im think and feel like you OP.This is "The One" for me.Is a elegant device,good display,octa core and i had not mention yet the biggest reason why i love the 6P.....THE SPEAKERS!!!! I mean,right now theres not a single device out there that sound better than my 6P.Everytime i use YouTube around public you then can see people looking for that awesome sound.It is like they thinking " what the fu#$ is that"..lol.I change the battery 4 month ago and still running with 8 cores(default).I went a little far about this and bought the HTC 10,the ZTE axon 7 mini and Sony Xperia Performance.Do you guys know why? Because all of those devices have front stereo speakers.Then i begin to root all those devices to be able to use Viper.In the end,theres not competition for the 6P.Im using pie rom,and i will keep using this bad boy until it dies.
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Yup, I've done the same. I've put the Pixel Experience Rom on my Nexus 6P and it works a treat. Still a good phone in 2019 despite being three years old. Oh yeah also, dual front facing stereo speakers and a gorgeous quad HD screen on a phone which came out 3 years ago! You still don't see that with phones being released now at what the Nexus 6P costs. Them 2 features alone make this device stand out, except for the battery/early shutdown problems which i don't have :laugh:

How's the poco f1 now in Q3 2019?

What's the general feel on the phone - solid?
How's the current development - kernels for miui?
Any common defects in this line ?
How much slower is it than 855 in gpu?
Is it a good option for ~$230-$250 (6/128) ?
if u r not into the looks of the phone or u r the guy who uses back covers....and can live with average display...this is still the best phone under 250$...and xiaomi still giving updates on security patch and other bug fixes and miui updates....
1. it feels solid the build quality is really good. its little bit heavier than otherr phone but once u get used to this phone the weight will not bother u much..i get 6 hours of sot on average it will last whole day...i am facing no defects till now...it is quite slower than 855 but difference is not much considering the price difference of this and the k20 pro...
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What's the general feel on the phone - solid?
yes its solid
How's the current development - kernels for miui?
dying
Any common defects in this line ?
horrible lcd display with bizzare touch issues
How much slower is it than 855 in gpu?
a bit slower
Is it a good option for ~$230-$250 (6/128) ?
its not an option at all,dont waste your money on a phone with horrible touch!!.(even if poeple tell you their poco is working fine you cant guarantee your unit will work properly)...xiaomi has practically dumped the poco f1!/QUOTE]
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nakulp said:
What's the general feel on the phone - solid?
yes its solid
How's the current development - kernels for miui?
dying
Any common defects in this line ?
horrible lcd display with bizzare touch issues
How much slower is it than 855 in gpu?
a bit slower
Is it a good option for ~$230-$250 (6/128) ?
its not an option at all,dont waste your money on a phone with horrible touch!!.(even if poeple tell you their poco is working fine you cant guarantee your unit will work properly)...xiaomi has practically dumped the poco f1!/QUOTE]
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this is so true, paying extra go for OnePlus 7 or even k20 pro , screen is bad ,i mean really bad, miui is dying its true. touch is bad, i m having screen bleeding issue .
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I recently bought it and very satisfied. Exceeds expectations. I see people are having touch screen defects, I don't have, I live in eastern Europe and I have warranty for two years, if something goes back I give it to the warranty service while they provide replacement during the service period. I hope this won't happen but yeah, for the price the phone is gold. Powerful, stable, bright and colorful display. People always talk about phone displays like they even understand color science or work on the phone to color grade movies. I recommend the phone and if there is touch issues, test before u buy the unit.
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I recently bought it and very satisfied. Exceeds expectations. I see people are having touch screen defects, I don't have, I live in eastern Europe and I have warranty for two years, if something goes back I give it to the warranty service while they provide replacement during the service period. I hope this won't happen but yeah, for the price the phone is gold. Powerful, stable, bright and colorful display. People always talk about phone displays like they even understand color science or work on the phone to color grade movies. I recommend the phone and if there is touch issues, test before u buy the unit.
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xiaomi stores sells you the phone in a sealed box, you cant test before you buy and the official warranty can sometimes be a joke when the authorized service center are a bunch of amateurs.
and by the way,my unit worked fine for more than 6 months and am 80% sure my touch problem is software related but xiaomi just dont have the will to fix it!!
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if u r not into the looks of the phone or u r the guy who uses back covers....and can live with average display...this is still the best phone under 250$...and xiaomi still giving updates on security patch and other bug fixes and miui updates....
1. it feels solid the build quality is really good. its little bit heavier than otherr phone but once u get used to this phone the weight will not bother u much..i get 6 hours of sot on average it will last whole day...i am facing no defects till now...it is quite slower than 855 but difference is not much considering the price difference of this and the k20 pro...
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Yes I'm totally a functionality over form type of guy so fps>glassback lol
Thanks:highfive:
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xiaomi stores sells you the phone in a sealed box, you cant test before you buy and the official warranty can sometimes be a joke when the authorized service center are a bunch of amateurs.
and by the way,my unit worked fine for more than 6 months and am 80% sure my touch problem is software related but xiaomi just dont have the will to fix it!!
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Do you think the bug got introduced in between some firmware update?
I've read some kernels trying to implement the touch fix bug for some panels, have you seen it?
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Do you think the bug got introduced in between some firmware update?
I've read some kernels trying to implement the touch fix bug for some panels, have you seen it?
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i,ve been living in a nightmare for the past 3 weeks since the touch issues started out of nowhere....i read and commented in every thread that discussed touch issues,kernels.....etc on xda and i am almost sure its a software issue that may have been introduced (god knows why).
DONT invest money in xiaomi(my old xiaomi mi max 1 touch is way better than poco f1).....they make phones with much less quality everyday.....just a tech/spec race.
nakulp said:
What's the general feel on the phone - solid?
How's the current development - kernels for miui?
Any common defects in this line ?
How much slower is it than 855 in gpu?
Is it a good option for ~$230-$250 (6/128) ?
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Seems feedback is all over the place. So I speak for myself, and for a friend who bought the pocophone as well (both bought in Belgium):
- really solid battery life
- MIUI os is stable enough (10.3.6.0), no major bugs, although not on the level of f.e. Samsung's UI.
- screen is below average, but that we knew upfront
- performance is the best selling point for this thing. It is fast, and smooth
- no touch issues
- no screen bleed issues
- ridiculously low price for the hardware used
- camera is pretty good, but search XDA for the gcam adaptation. It pulls the most from the sensor.
- screen is scratch resistant for now (own it for a few months without screen protector)
- the soft case that comes with the phone is kinda cheap, but does the trick
- it charges fast
- Xiaomi was a kind of a gamble for me as they are not well known for swift updates and long term maintenance. But I can always unlock the bootloader and install an aosp version such as pixel experience. For now, they come with regular updates but always are 2month behind (so now in August we have the June security update.
- One intermittent issue with Bluetooth (in combination with my mercedes): sometimes audio stutters for a second. Deactivating bluetooth and reactivating it on the phone solves it and we're good again for a few weeks.
All in all: a really good phone if you don't use it in very bright outside conditions (again: screen is below average). I come from a Samsung S7 edge, and I only miss it's high res amoled screen to an extent. The latter is undeniably better in color representation and brightness.
You want a better screen for the same price, try a Samsung A40. But performance and battery life will take a severe hit.
Also, people tend to compare them to equally performant smartphones, but they are typically in another price range. Don't do that, compare apples to apples and decide: you want the performance, or you want a nice screen / fancy looking smartphone?
Nothing in the same price range comes close to it
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Nothing in the same price range comes close to it
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Agreed, have had the phone since March this year and have had none of the issues that keep getting mentioned on various Pocophone threads. This phone for me is perfect on MIUI 10.3.6.0 Global Stable for my use. Some YouTube, Facebook, Netflix and usually an hour of PUBG and/or Blades daily and normal texting/WhatsApp and calls. Usually have 30% battery left by bedtime.
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Had mine about a month, love it.
Coming from an HTC U12 which had useless buttons and a display that you can't see in sunshine I tried an Exynos S10e which could not hold a phone call for any length of time. Personally I couldn't find anything else on the market that wasn't huge that had a flagship SOC (albeit last years), SD card slot, headphone jack and unlockable bootloader.
Haven't had any of the issues others have, mine is a global version bought in the UK but I had to get rid of MIUI, so there is plenty of AOSP roms to try.
Fwiw I've settled on AOSiP and arter97 kernel and get 6-8 hours SOT and a phone that keeps calls when I'm driving around.
The only downside is the camera is just about fine.
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Had mine about a month, love it.
Coming from an HTC U12 which had useless buttons and a display that you can't see in sunshine I tried an Exynos S10e which could not hold a phone call for any length of time. Personally I couldn't find anything else on the market that wasn't huge that had a flagship SOC (albeit last years), SD card slot, headphone jack and unlockable bootloader.
Haven't had any of the issues others have, mine is a global version bought in the UK but I had to get rid of MIUI, so there is plenty of AOSP roms to try.
Fwiw I've settled on AOSiP and arter97 kernel and get 6-8 hours SOT and a phone that keeps calls when I'm driving around.
The only downside is the camera is just about fine.
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Did you try gcam .apk ? You just install it and it levels up the camera experience by miles! Check it out on a thread in here!
jackshot said:
Did you try gcam .apk ? You just install it and it levels up the camera experience by miles! Check it out on a thread in here!
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Couldn't agree more. Great fun playing with Nightsight too
jackshot said:
Did you try gcam .apk ? You just install it and it levels up the camera experience by miles! Check it out on a thread in here!
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Yep! Coming from an HTC though and missing OIS the Xiaomi is still second place. For the price though its great!
There is Oneplus rom port for Poco F1. I tried it's pretty nice, faster, smoother and touch is better/sharper, battery about the same as use Miui rom (I use vendor-firmware 9.6.27 for Oneplus rom)
I am from India and I can tell that the phone launched (6, 64) at ₹21000.
Now in the Flipkart sale you can get it at 16.5k.
I myself have ordered it today.
One of the main reasons to buy this phone is that it has excellent development support at xda community and unlocking the bootloader won't void your warranty. So If you are into custom ROMs this is best flagship level budget device.
Myself being a custom ROM enthusiast, I decided to go with it.
So Yes even today this is great value for money phone despite it lacks few things like it is really ugly looking because of that huge notch and considering all new even budget phones are coming with the drop notch or full screen display, this is a trade-off.
i'd say go for it its worth the price, i've had it for around 4-6 months with no issues, im coming from a galaxy s6 and honestly the display isn't that bad compared to it the only thing i noticed is that the galaxy s6 is like 50-80% brighter but you'll notice it only if your using your phone outside.

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