i see a lot of tutorials on how to unlock the bootloader for the h831 while searching. has anyone tried these?
i'm curious because i'm getting the g5 tonight. and i might want to root it in the future.
There is no bootloader unlock for the h831 and there isn't one in developement either. If you really searched on the forums, you would have realised this yourself.
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There is no bootloader unlock for the h831 and there isn't one in developement either. If you really searched on the forums, you would have realised this yourself.
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actually, there is one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/guide-adb-root-rw-dm-verity-off-sprint-t3523499
some have reported it to work. thanks though. and i didn't say i searched the forums, now did i.
Firstly, what you found isn't a bootloader unlock nor a "normal" root method (with supersu and all the bells and whistles). That is actually an userdebug kernel and an adb root is pretty limited for non-devellopers and you shouldn't use it ubless you know what you are doing. So I actually didn't lied to you as there really is no bootloader unlock available for the h831 nor one in devellopement.
Secondly, when you post a question in ANY forum, everyone expect you should AT LEAST make a quick search in the forum iteself or google it. Why ? Because if everybody ask questions without checking if they have been answered, the community is stuck at posting the same answer again and again, wasting everyone's time and ressources. Why somebody should take his own damn time to answer a question if the other person isn't even ready to make a quick 1 minutes search ?
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Firstly, what you found isn't a bootloader unlock nor a "normal" root method (with supersu and all the bells and whistles). That is actually an userdebug kernel and an adb root is pretty limited for non-devellopers and you shouldn't use it ubless you know what you are doing. So I actually didn't lied to you as there really is no bootloader unlock available for the h831 nor one in devellopement.
Secondly, when you post a question in ANY forum, everyone expect you should AT LEAST make a quick search in the forum iteself or google it. Why ? Because if everybody ask questions without checking if they have been answered, the community is stuck at posting the same answer again and again, wasting everyone's time and ressources. Why somebody should take his own damn time to answer a question if the other person isn't even ready to make a quick 1 minutes search ?
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seems like you're angry...how about you just get the hell out of my thread eh?
i asked a question in the QUESTIONS forum! it doesn't matter if it was asked before. if you don't like to answer with kindness, then don't answer at all.
thanks for the info though.
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does it take off everything that is on the rommy thingy?...or what...and f i want to just install it do i have to cid unlock?...( i got aa g3 now) or do i shelltool it...
lets say im going to download farias real thing...to get everything do i install it regular...or shelltool it?
From your questions, you really shouldn't be doing anything with your phone before reading the wiki on this and taking some time to read the forums a bit closer.
i didnt ask that...if u cant answer my question just say so,,,thanks for trying
TaurusBullba wasnt being mean. TaurusBullba was pointing out a few honest truths.
Hypothetically speaking, if someone doesnt know what shelltool does, despite their being a thread with almost 300 posts on using the shelltool then they are obviously not ready to flash anything yet. Furthermore if someone doesnt know which devices the shelltool is designed for then they have again demonstrated that they are not ready to flash their expensive device.
Do as TaurusBullba said and be thankful someone took the time to answer your question in a civil manner.
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does it take off everything that is on the rommy thingy?...or what...and f i want to just install it do i have to cid unlock?...( i got aa g3 now) or do i shelltool it...
lets say im going to download farias real thing...to get everything do i install it regular...or shelltool it?
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Just CID unlock your G3, you dont need shell tools for that.
i dont want to cid unlock it..and i cant...hence the reason im using shell tools...i have read the thread before but was looking for clarification...sorry for asking...and the fact that there are 300 posts makes it even easier for some1 not 2 read all the posts...to get all the information...i ditnt think anyone would read all the post to make sure there perfect with it..hence the reason all people can make threads...to post finds...and questions...and again i say...i cant cid unlock my device...does it take off everything that is on the rom?...or what...and if i want to just install the rom the regular way do i have to cid unlock?...( i have a g3 now) or do i shelltool it...lets say im going to use farias real thing...to get everything on the rom do i install it regularly...or shelltool it?
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CID unlock your phone and install the normal way. There isnt much point using shelltools with a G3 when you can just unlock it.
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and the fact that there are 300 posts makes it even easier for some1 not 2 read all the posts...to get all the information...i ditnt think anyone would read all the post to make sure there perfect with it..hence the reason all people can make threads...to post finds...and questions__________________
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The reason some threads are 300+ posts long is because so many topics are covered, so many questions are answered. By reading all the posts in the thread you might find your question is already answered, conversely by not reading all the pages you might miss something very important. For example imagine if someone didnt read the shelltool thread and missed the discussion about the virus version of shelltool, what kind of trouble would they be in then?
so i take it we should read every single page...no thanks
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so i take it we should read every single page...no thanks
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Just the kind of attitude that leads to you not knowing what shelltools does.
i think asking him to read 300 plus pages of anything is asking too much. And he is right that we all can post threads for a reason. But still most of the info he is seeking can easily be answered by reading the first page of the original shelltools thread.
personally i hate when people say "just unlock it" because people like me who can't void the warranty can't unlock it (i have a g3, but used shelltools to try and keep the warranty) This guy has read enough to know that it doesnt cid unlock your device.
to answer his original question, im pretty sure it just flashes the os and ipl and spl or anything (thats what happened with mine) Ive used nottosmarts and xplore with no problems with it. I say just try it and see if you get the full effect.
I see the users frustration with questions such as this, but this is a forum thats known for the way it is always willing to help a new user out. All we ask is the new user just does some research and not be baby fed.
And killacam even if there is a hint of attitude, they just dont want you to brick your phone, so take take it too much to heart
The issue here is that 99% of the people asking about shelltools are people that shouldn't be flashing their phone. You may be one of the exceptions but the lack of information in your posting about what you do know makes it hard to judge.
The fact is that even shell tool (and any unauthorized tool for that matter), can "brick" your phone and most of the time (read a few threads) people blame the people posting these tools. If you are worried about warranty then you should just be happy with your phone's built in OS.
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The issue here is that 99% of the people asking about shelltools are people that shouldn't be flashing their phone. You may be one of the exceptions but the lack of information in your posting about what you do know makes it hard to judge.
The fact is that even shell tool (and any unauthorized tool for that matter), can "brick" your phone and most of the time (read a few threads) people blame the people posting these tools. If you are worried about warranty then you should just be happy with your phone's built in OS.
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are you talking to me? Why should i be happy with the packaged OS? Why can't i use a workaround that was developed from someone in these forums? In fact, i dont see a reason why anyone wouldn't use shelltools because of the fact that it saves the warranty.
Oh and a lot of programs can brick your phones, even the basic rom update if it's used in the wrong manner. And i don't like the way you went about this post; next time you need help maybe you shouldn't ask it, because that's apparently what you would like everyone else to do. I agree that he shouldnt have looked more at the shelltools thread, but to make a statement about me doesn't make sense.
It's never asking too much of a person to do things if he really wants to do it. Anyway, he doesn't have to read through the whole 300 pages as not every page has the information he needs, just browse through it mate and look for your magic keyword "G3"...
It was worth the 300 pages though, believe me, if I didn't I woundn't be using Core2.0 right now..
i dont think there is a warranty issue here since he wants to upgrade his OS and that would void his warranty (or not?)
the only way to learn is READING and if he doesnt want to read and expect someone else to do it for him thats a bit lazy on your part but here is my advice.....
1)if you can CID unlock your device (if you dont care about your waranty do it) this way you wont have any issues when upgrading to a different ROM
here is a link for some good info about cid unlocking http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/170
or here you will find lokiwiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474
2)if your question is what exacly Shell too does (what it does to the .nbk file) thats a question that you shouldnt be asking since you havent been able to flash a rom and that a question for a more experienced user.
3)read the first page of the Shell too thread that should answer all your questions if not be more specific about what you have done and what you can and cannot do this way we can help you directing you to the treads that might help you
4)and if none of this have help you you can PM me. i have flash several G3 and G4 devices and havent bricked any one of them.
As you can see i dont post as much im more of a Reader (the only way to learn) i usually dont post to ask but to help...thats why this forum is wonderful ...hope i helped in some way if not search....read this forum and google are your best friends
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i dont think there is a warranty issue here since he wants to upgrade his OS and that would void his warranty (or not?)
the only way to learn is READING and if he doesnt want to read and expect someone else to do it for him thats a bit lazy on your part but here is my advice.....
1)if you can CID unlock your device (if you dont care about your waranty do it) this way you wont have any issues when upgrading to a different ROM
here is a link for some good info about cid unlocking http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/170
or here you will find lokiwiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474
2)if your question is what exacly Shell too does (what it does to the .nbk file) thats a question that you shouldnt be asking since you havent been able to flash a rom and that a question for a more experienced user.
3)read the first page of the Shell too thread that should answer all your questions if not be more specific about what you have done and what you can and cannot do this way we can help you directing you to the treads that might help you
4)and if none of this have help you you can PM me. i have flash several G3 and G4 devices and havent bricked any one of them.
As you can see i dont post as much im more of a Reader (the only way to learn) i usually dont post to ask but to help...thats why this forum is wonderful ...hope i helped in some way if not search....read this forum and google are your best friends
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no, upgrading the OS through shelltools will not void the warranty. (that is if you change it back before you send it in for repair )
i agree with pretty much everything you said, and that's one thing people need to learn, is that if you read a little bit, things will just absorb and you will then gain some knowledge. these are expensive little machines to be messing around on lol.
The Real Thing won't work on it
You can try, but Faria's Real Thing won't work on a G3 CID-locked device using ShellTool. I tried already. What I did was just CID-Unlocked my G3 a few days ago. If you need to send it in for repairs, you can always lock it back up using the CID-unlocking software called Lokiwiz. Then you can just use the RUU to flash the image
HI everyone,
I know that this thread has been read and discussed probably many many times. But i know that the phone i have i probably the toughest one to root. I've searched a lot of sites ( unlockers, wiki android, xda and many more) for answers and i have to admit that i've tried only one, the one with goldcard(my rooting process stopped when i tried to flash the recovery and it said that there was sort of a mistake, i don't remember what exactly. I'm not saying that i haven't tried all of the possibilities to root my phone but i'm just asking all of You forum users to help me choose the right one so i won't worry to damage my phone somehow.
Looking forwards to hearing frm You people.
p.s.
I know that user: kad3t had the same problem and he somehow managed to root his phone, i've written him a message but he isn't answering so that is why i'm asking You.
This is the guide I followed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645253
I'm rooted and my phone is still alive
PS -- these types of threads belong in either the General or Q&A sections
Thank You very much. And for the future i'll post that kind of threads in the right forum sections
cheers mate
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Hi there,
I'm rather new (so sorry if these are dumb questions) to all this flashing / rooting / de branding and had a few questions about it..
Well i bought the x10 on mobile network 3 (three uk) and tbh they are ****. First phone i had i debranded using the SEUS copy file method over, but since then i have had them replace the phone. i tried the same method but as SE have updated SEUS i can't get it to work... :|
So looking around i started reading up on rooting.
Firstly if i follow this guide forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711907 will that debrand the phone to the generic firmware?
If that is the case will i then be able to get future updates through SEUS or not?
If i rooted the phone, would there be anyway to go back to the so called unrooted version?
And lastly, what are the other pro's and con's of rooting?
Thanks, and sorry if these are silly questions!
Spud
Hi.
They aren't silly if you don't know the answer, but considering a search of the forum and browse of the guide (which you could have posted this question on) would have given you the answers it's an annoying post.
Read the rules and browse THIS section.
i had been researching the topic for 2 days before i posted here, i understand the majority of it just not the questions posted above.
i followed the link you posted but it did not answer my main question
will that debrand the phone to the generic firmware?
If that is the case will i then be able to get future updates through SEUS or not?
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maybe im mis understanding what they say but it would be very helpful if some could tell me if it allows me to get future updates through seus
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maybe im mis understanding what they say but it would be very helpful if some could tell me if it allows me to get future updates through seus
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After searching google with can I run seus after rooting, I found this thread - [Q] Questions about rooting my X10i
Total time, 30 seconds.
thankyou
sorry, just seen so many posts about it didn't know what to properly search for
pardon my ignorance
No worries, but it is frustrating to see new threads asking questions that have been answered a million times already. In future just post on an existing thread instead of starting new ones.
To answer one of your other questions - What is rooting and why should I do it?
yes i can understand that entirely being a member of other forums myself.
In future Existing Posts it is!
Thanks for that link as well, definatly explains things in more detail!
Spud
is ther any way to unlock the sn X10 phone?
You are a noob.
You posted in the wrong subforum.
There are many threads with the same question.
This thread contains no helpful or valuable info to post it in a DEVELOPEMENT section.
So why did you do so?
Because you can't even read some forum rules.
And why is that crying stuff used for this thread? Did you cry while you wrote this?
cool down mister tiger.seems that you had a bad day ther !
Questions are for questions, developement is for developement.
I just don't know why is it so hard for people to understand.
Dude there is not "free" way, I used this: Unlock_fusion for 4.50$ CAD fast delivery, phone unlocked. BTW I do not work for them.
thank you,that is a useful answer!
they unlock only rogers locked phones,i have france bouygue telecome locked phone.
sslizz said:
they unlock only rogers locked phones,i have france bouygue telecome locked phone.
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Still keeps asking question here.. Why is it so hard to understand sometimes??
i didn't know that is so bad to ask for some help!
Thread closed since there are many threads with the same topic. Please search before you post. Thanks.
Hello,
I currently have a unrooted Galaxy s2 ( with jelly bean). I would like to root it but i did the brickbug test and unfortunately i got it. So i would like to know if it's safe for me to root my phone or not ? And i have one more question can i root my phone without installing a custom firmware ?
Sorry if those are silly questions but i a new in this world.
Thanks for your answers.
P.S : Please forgive me if my english is bad but it's not my native langage ^^
elveryll said:
Hello,
I currently have a unrooted Galaxy s2 ( with jelly bean). I would like to root it but i did the brickbug test and unfortunately i got it. So i would like to know if it's safe for me to root my phone or not ? And i have one more question can i root my phone without installing a custom firmware ?
Sorry if those are silly questions but i a new in this world.
Thanks for your answers.
P.S : Please forgive me if my english is bad but it's not my native langage ^^
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1) the brick bug is only there on stock 4.0.4 firmware kernel for u so on JB ur safe for now
2) u can root ur phone without installing a custom firmware for sure
3) of course rooting will always have an elemantary risk for sure, but u have to see to it that, why do i require a root in the first place
No (Ask a ridiculous question, get a ridiculous answer).
You really need to learn 'the basics' before you do anything to your phone or you will break it. Read the threads stickied at the top of Q&A, and also read the threads linked in the Stickies thread third post from the top in General.
The questions you've asked have been asked/answered here thousands of times over the past two years, and the answers are in those threads. If anyone serves you up simple answers without you understanding what you're doing, you're going to end up with an expensive plastic paperweight like countless people before you.
Thanks for your answers.
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No (Ask a ridiculous question, get a ridiculous answer).
You really need to learn 'the basics' before you do anything to your phone or you will break it. Read the threads stickied at the top of Q&A, and also read the threads linked in the Stickies thread third post from the top in General.
The questions you've asked have been asked/answered here thousands of times over the past two years, and the answers are in those threads. If anyone serves you up simple answers without you understanding what you're doing, you're going to end up with an expensive plastic paperweight like countless people before you.
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But MistahBungle , i wasn't planning to root my phone right now. And i know i am not ready yet. Those are questions that popped into my mind when i began to read some documentation on rooting and custom firmwares yesterday and i didn't find any answers to those. Sorry if i bothered you.
Anyway thanks again for your help.
Elveryll