This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. I read many posts with members stating that the thread is just too long to read. Then using that as an excuse for not reading at all. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
RayMcGrath said:
This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
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Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
Bobbaloo said:
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
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Great to have you. You're a big help to many folk.
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Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
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You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
RayMcGrath said:
You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
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Yeah I know how you feel! At least for me having no real technical knowledge, I'm always glad to find the solutions by myself. Since it's around and just needs a search it's even faster than waiting for an answer. Also, since I only need to search when my phone is broken, I simply can't wait for someone to answer. Imagine no one replied during two days...
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Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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This is the first place I found when I started to flash my HTC vision back in 2008. I started reading guides and development and was like: WTF these guys are cracking bootloader, carrier unlocking, etc... And all can be found so easily... :good:
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Okay. I posted my first ever question/request for advice the other day and, despite 79 views, I have had no response. Perhaps it was too dull for those who are more accomplished with all things Android and everybody assumed that somebody else would answer.
Perhaps within the morass of information on these forums the answers are already out there. Maybe, but who knows. In other forums people tend to at least say - look there for answers - and post a link to another thread. But, it has been Christmas and I guess we are all pretty busy this time of year - Merry Christmas to all by the way
So, I thought I would re-shape my question/needs here.
Could anybody give me, or at least point me in the direction of, a glossary of terms type of thing?
I need to know things like what does 'radio' mean? How does it relate to the 'flashing' process' , And any other terms which people take for granted as being blindingly obvious, but which may not be to those of us very inexperienced. This forum can be quite daunting, but still, enquiring minds wanna know
Any help, again, appreciated.
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Okay. I posted my first ever question/request for advice the other day and, despite 79 views, I have had no response. Perhaps it was too dull for those who are more accomplished with all things Android and everybody assumed that somebody else would answer.
Perhaps within the morass of information on these forums the answers are already out there. Maybe, but who knows. In other forums people tend to at least say - look there for answers - and post a link to another thread. But, it has been Christmas and I guess we are all pretty busy this time of year - Merry Christmas to all by the way
So, I thought I would re-shape my question/needs here.
Could anybody give me, or at least point me in the direction of, a glossary of terms type of thing?
I need to know things like what does 'radio' mean? How does it relate to the 'flashing' process' , And any other terms which people take for granted as being blindingly obvious, but which may not be to those of us very inexperienced. This forum can be quite daunting, but still, enquiring minds wanna know
Any help, again, appreciated.
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I would've loved to answer but perhaps you need to be more specific on what you want to be answered
you said you wanted to have 2.3.5 on ur DHD,but that doesn't tell anyone what you are asking for,if you are asking us to find a ROM for you,or how to flash a recovery first,or how to flash the ROM !
You should have to provide us more specific data, phone, model, rooted or stock, etc. It is normal that why you don't get replies.
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droidiser said:
I would've loved to answer but perhaps you need to be more specific on what you want to be answered
you said you wanted to have 2.3.5 on ur DHD,but that doesn't tell anyone what you are asking for,if you are asking us to find a ROM for you,or how to flash a recovery first,or how to flash the ROM !
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HI, and thank you. Also apologies for my woolly question. And this is kind of my problem. When new to this even the questions I want answered are not always asked correctly. I was hoping to find a ROM for my Desire HD which has Sense 3.0. I have Gingerbread on the phone currently with Sense 2.1.
To be completely humble and honest, which I find to be the best way in almost all cases, I must say that I am not even sure what "how to flash a recovery" means, or "how to flash the ROM".
So, as you see, I am really new to this and feeling my way around. I am a quick learner though so I really just need bringing up to speed on a few of the basics and then I am sure I will be able to research my way around.
Anyway, thank you for your kind reply. I wasn't trying to be shirty with my post. I meant what I said - it is Christmas and I am sure people look in over the holidays but it is a busy time for everybody. I hope I have not caused offence.
Can I contact you on your email,i find that more easily accessible!
What's your email id?
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HI, and thank you. Also apologies for my woolly question. And this is kind of my problem. When new to this even the questions I want answered are not always asked correctly. I was hoping to find a ROM for my Desire HD which has Sense 3.0. I have Gingerbread on the phone currently with Sense 2.1.
To be completely humble and honest, which I find to be the best way in almost all cases, I must say that I am not even sure what "how to flash a recovery" means, or "how to flash the ROM".
So, as you see, I am really new to this and feeling my way around. I am a quick learner though so I really just need bringing up to speed on a few of the basics and then I am sure I will be able to research my way around.
Anyway, thank you for your kind reply. I wasn't trying to be shirty with my post. I meant what I said - it is Christmas and I am sure people look in over the holidays but it is a busy time for everybody. I hope I have not caused offence.
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Please read before you do anything at all. From your posts it is plain you are very new to Modding so it is very important you understand what your doing as it void your warrenty and if done wrong can brick your device. Start with the stickies in the DHD section and read those a couple of times. Then check the Q&A and read there as well.
As mentioned, read the stickies in your section, there should be a lot of information there. In my device's subfora, there are great stickies chocked full of information. If we had the same device, I'd post some links for you. There's also a glossary of sorts stickied in the Thunderbolt section. Not everything in it will apply to your device but it may help with some general terms.
Before I even rooted my device, I read all of the stickies and recommended links. I then read over the Q&A and general subfora just to get a feel for it. What I read didn't make a lot of sense at the time, but later I remembered it and it made more sense. I then rooted my device, then read and read and read before flashing my first rom (CM6 - it was a while back).
It's a process, and the more you read the more you'll understand, until eventually you can start answering some of the questions that go unanswered. Just give it time... and make sure that you know exactly what you're doing - and why - before you jump in to something.
Good luck!
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Hi there Gauravgahlyan , and many thanks. I have dropped you a line via gmail - and you have helped indeed
zelendel said:
Please read before you do anything at all. From your posts it is plain you are very new to Modding so it is very important you understand what your doing as it void your warrenty and if done wrong can brick your device. Start with the stickies in the DHD section and read those a couple of times. Then check the Q&A and read there as well.
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Hi there Zendel.
Apologies for the lateness of this reply. Been a busy day. I wanted to say thanks for the advice and to also fill in a couple of blanks, if I may.
You are quite correct, I am very new to modding and my only fear is buggering it up, as we say in Lancashire lol. However, it has already been rooted by a friend who took me through the process over the phone some months ago.
When I first got the phone it was with Orange and had all that Orange junk and splash screen etc. Hence, my friend talked me through rooting and installing a standard factory ROM. It was a lot to take in and, at the time, I didn't make any notes along the way, which would have helped me now - hindsight is a wonderful thing, as they say.
More recently he pointed me at a link to a RUU (is that right?) so that I could upgrade from Froyo 2.2 to Gingerbread 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1 - so, in a nutshell, void warranty is no longer a concern
I have taken a look at some of the stickies, though I have not studied them intensely at this point. I will spend more time looking however and come back, perhaps, with more questions - or at least more relevant questions I should hope
plainjane said:
As mentioned, read the stickies in your section, there should be a lot of information there. In my device's subfora, there are great stickies chocked full of information. If we had the same device, I'd post some links for you. There's also a glossary of sorts stickied in the Thunderbolt section. Not everything in it will apply to your device but it may help with some general terms.
Before I even rooted my device, I read all of the stickies and recommended links. I then read over the Q&A and general subfora just to get a feel for it. What I read didn't make a lot of sense at the time, but later I remembered it and it made more sense. I then rooted my device, then read and read and read before flashing my first rom (CM6 - it was a while back).
It's a process, and the more you read the more you'll understand, until eventually you can start answering some of the questions that go unanswered. Just give it time... and make sure that you know exactly what you're doing - and why - before you jump in to something.
Good luck!
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Many thanks PlainJane - I shall go there now
How stable is the build for sgs2? Anyone tried it yet?
You can check its thread over the original development section.
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You can check its thread over the original development section.
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Yes, thank you for your concise, yet completely worthless contribution to a question being asked. Once I've managed to trudge through the million or so posts, I will form an opinion if said thread was even remotely useful.
While your extreme enthusiasm and talent in pointing out things that are obvious are appreciated, I would actually like to request information pertaining the stability and whether you have tried it. Since you have not managed answer either question with any one post, I suppose you have failed three things; to answer the two questions I've asked in the OP and at life.
To anyone else reading this, I'm merely berating a neanderthal with near catatonic grasp of the linguistic requirement of reading; please answer the OP question as best you can.
Lolwow, that actually made me laugh, seriously, totally talented phrasing there.
On the matter of the OP:
I haven't tried myself yet (I hope that doesn't rule me out as a potential "may reply guy"), but from what I have gathered so far it's flagged "experimental".
UI stuff mostly works, some other things (like making a call) sometimes work and then don't again.
Definitaly not "daily use" capable, but a very good impression of the work that is already done and to see that work is heading into the right direction.
They say they'll be "stable" around Jan./Feb., so being a coder myself I'd rather think of March / April (NOT meant badly, I just know the countless unforseen reasons a project gets delayed!).
And if you are not as lazy as some of the members here you should aleast read the Op or the first and last 10 pages of the thread you worthless dumbass.. You're so lazy you won't read atleast the OP or last pages to see how it is? I was just telling you to look at the f**cking thread because an immature dumbass child owning a smartphone like you wouldn't have read atleast the thread pertaining to the fuc**ng topic dumbass..
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Lolwow, that actually made me laugh, seriously, totally talented phrasing there.
On the matter of the OP:
I haven't tried myself yet (I hope that doesn't rule me out as a potential "may reply guy"), but from what I have gathered so far it's flagged "experimental".
UI stuff mostly works, some other things (like making a call) sometimes work and then don't again.
Definitaly not "daily use" capable, but a very good impression of the work that is already done and to see that work is heading into the right direction.
They say they'll be "stable" around Jan./Feb., so being a coder myself I'd rather think of March / April (NOT meant badly, I just know the countless unforseen reasons a project gets delayed!).
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Thanks for the honest answer. I was interested in CM9 mainly as a daily driver, since I only have one phone.
As for the Q1 timeline, I have heard from Cyanogen himself and from Samsung that their timeline is similar. I am, of course, near morbidly curious about hardware acceleration on the UI without a Samsung-based kernel.
Please excuse an old man while he brushes up on patience.
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And if you are not as lazy as some of the members here you should aleast read the Op or the first and last 10 pages of the thread you worthless dumbass.. You're so lazy you won't read atleast the OP or last pages to see how it is? I was just telling you to look at the f**cking thread because an immature dumbass child owning a smartphone like you wouldn't have read atleast the thread pertaining to the fuc**ng topic dumbass..
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Here's my summary of the OP after I have read it:
1. Experimental.
2. Install using CWM, with addons.
3. No bug reports; dev not bothering anyway.
4. Logcat, or GTFO.
That should cover the basics.
Last ten pages summary:
1. Volume problem when headset connected.
2. Volume hack presented, although quite "dirty" as represented by the author.
3. Various other complaints/answers and going off-tangent.
I suppose there are other issues I might add, but the first two points seem to discuss this issue quite a lot. Also, the OP was updated to include said volume hack.
Of course, your answers were quite rage-induced, so I'd like to ask you to calm down and think about what you're saying. Even my twelve-year-old son does better than calling others "immature child" and using the f-word when he feels threatened. That is despite me allowing him unfettered access to Call of Duty multiplayer.
Yeah yeah was not in a good mood already and then i read your somewhat sarcastic reply.. Sorry for what i said and you should'nt answer people like that.. I did reply to you answer (1st one) in a proper way and not a sort of know it all read the op etc type.. Anyway, a new leak will be out this new year (from sammobile) and maybr devs can work on it to minimize the bugs so i'd suggest to wait for the next version..
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Yes, thank you for your concise, yet completely worthless contribution to a question being asked. Once I've managed to trudge through the million or so posts, I will form an opinion if said thread was even remotely useful.
While your extreme enthusiasm and talent in pointing out things that are obvious are appreciated, I would actually like to request information pertaining the stability and whether you have tried it. Since you have not managed answer either question with any one post, I suppose you have failed three things; to answer the two questions I've asked in the OP and at life.
To anyone else reading this, I'm merely berating a neanderthal with near catatonic grasp of the linguistic requirement of reading; please answer the OP question as best you can.
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this is not a good way to start
people may just never going to reply to you with this attitude.
anyway, to answer your questions:
1. i tried the second built, not the 3rd one (just downloaded)
2. it's almost usable, but still a lot of bugs here and there (volume when you connect the headphones, signal lost on some networks, default sms app crashing).
If you don't mind an "almost working but amazing" phone, then go ahead, else i would suggest you to wait another couple of builds at least.
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Yeah yeah was not in a good mood already and then i read your somewhat sarcastic reply.. Sorry for what i said and you should'nt answer people like that.. I did reply to you answer (1st one) in a proper way and not a sort of know it all read the op etc type.. Anyway, a new leak will be out this new year (from sammobile) and maybr devs can work on it to minimize the bugs so i'd suggest to wait for the next version..
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I'd gather as much from the G+ pages and the official news from Samsung.
Take wisdom from those who travelled down the painful path; anger does not help in any way.
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this is not a good way to start
people may just never going to reply to you with this attitude.
anyway, to answer your questions:
1. i tried the second built, not the 3rd one (just downloaded)
2. it's almost usable, but still a lot of bugs here and there (volume when you connect the headphones, signal lost on some networks, default sms app crashing).
If you don't mind an "almost working but amazing" phone, then go ahead, else i would suggest you to wait another couple of builds at least.
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Thank you for your reply. I suppose that rules it out for me, as I need my smartphone to make up for my age-induced frailties.
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I'd gather as much from the G+ pages and the official news from Samsung.
Take wisdom from those who travelled down the painful path; anger does not help in any way.
Thank you for your reply. I suppose that rules it out for me, as I need my smartphone to make up for my age-induced frailties.
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sammobile which is the former samfirmware which is the source of leaked firmwares here on xda..
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skyhammer said:
Yes, thank you for your concise, yet completely worthless contribution to a question being asked. Once I've managed to trudge through the million or so posts, I will form an opinion if said thread was even remotely useful.
While your extreme enthusiasm and talent in pointing out things that are obvious are appreciated, I would actually like to request information pertaining the stability and whether you have tried it. Since you have not managed answer either question with any one post, I suppose you have failed three things; to answer the two questions I've asked in the OP and at life.
To anyone else reading this, I'm merely berating a neanderthal with near catatonic grasp of the linguistic requirement of reading; please answer the OP question as best you can.
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Be careful about that! I found that when I try and point out how pointless (and angry) the majority of posts here are, my threads get closed with a sarcastic comment!
Good question though!
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How stable is the build for sgs2? Anyone tried it yet?
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Good question though!
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Yeah, it's brilliant. It's original, thoughtful, deep and never been asked or answered before.
To the OP, get off your high horse. You've been given the most useful answer in the 2nd post. If you're not willing to even read through a thread yourself, you deserve all the flaming you get.
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Be careful about that! I found that when I try and point out how pointless (and angry) the majority of posts here are, my threads get closed with a sarcastic comment!
Good question though!
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From what I know about forums, it's usually power-tripping moderators and admins who can't get it elsewhere. But I'm sure XDA's staff are fair and just.
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Yeah, it's brilliant. It's original, thoughtful, deep and never been asked or answered before.
To the OP, get off your high horse. You've been given the most useful answer in the 2nd post. If you're not willing to even read through a thread yourself, you deserve all the flaming you get.
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Well, something I've learned here: Didn't you read this entire thread?
I've read the CyanogenMod 9 thread, have proven that I've read it, and I believe it is impossible for any sane person to have read the entire thread. I'm here seeking opinions, of which yours is entirely unwelcome especially considering you didn't provide any. Why don't you try to get on a horse before talking to me, so that I don't have to stoop so low?
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I'm here seeking opinions, of which yours is entirely unwelcome especially considering you didn't provide any. Why don't you try to get on a horse before talking to me, so that I don't have to stoop so low?
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Sure.
If you don't want my opinion, how about one of the (currently) 1,125 posts in the relevant thread, of people who didn't feel the need to create a new one?
What if the several hundred people in there each decided to post an awesome thread like your own? What if they too didn't like or want the opinions of the others in that thread, rather specific people who have tested it (wait, what, isn't that what you're likely to find in there?).
I have indeed read this thread, and I stand by my answer. You were given the most useful answer in the 2nd post, which was to look at the relevant thread. In case you're struggling to find it, lemme help you out
[ROM][IML74K][4.0.3] CyanogenMod 9 experimental Build [UNSTABLE][12-29-2011].
Oh, and the clue is in the title and first post:
UNSTABLE
THIS ROM IS FAR AWAY FROM BEING A DAILY DRIVER.
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I was interested in CM9 mainly as a daily driver, since I only have one phone.
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Sure.
If you don't want my opinion, how about one of the (currently) 1,125 posts in the relevant thread, of people who didn't feel the need to create a new one?
What if the several hundred people in there each decided to post an awesome thread like your own? What if they too didn't like or want the opinions of the others in that thread, rather specific people who have tested it (wait, what, isn't that what you're likely to find in there?).
I have indeed read this thread, and I stand by my answer. You were given the most useful answer in the 2nd post, which was to look at the relevant thread. In case you're struggling to find it, lemme help you out
[ROM][IML74K][4.0.3] CyanogenMod 9 experimental Build [UNSTABLE][12-29-2011].
Oh, and the clue is in the title and first post:
UNSTABLE
THIS ROM IS FAR AWAY FROM BEING A DAILY DRIVER.
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Sure, I'll read it once you have gone through all 1,000+ posts there. I'm sure we'll all gain some insight, once you've gotten past your passive-aggressive inclinations and complete ineptitude when it comes to answering questions directly and keeping silent when having little to nothing to contribute to a discussion. I'm sure you're a well-adjusted person if I should ever meet you face to face and you enjoy great success in life.
By the bye, I would also like to congratulate your abilities in stating the obvious when providing the link to the topic. I'm sure I couldn't have found it without your assistance. Great effort.
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I'm sure I couldn't have found it without your assistance. Great effort.
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Yet overlooked it when deciding to make a new thread, when you're looking for a daily driver? Keep going, I'm enjoying this.
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Keep going, I'm enjoying this.
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Obligatory TWSS here. Thanks for the laughter.
On a more serious note, I have suddenly realized that the current generation of internet users couldn't discern point blank sarcasm or is a masochist.
I would make a Nandroid backup and give it a go, I;m flitting between this and 2 other backups, and i found it to be quite stable, a few niggly bits here and there but overall it was usable.
Requesting lock on this idiotic thread
I freely admit that I'm a Newbie when it comes to rooting; this post is to ask if anyone can please recommend a good source of reading matter to help me get started rooting my Streak?
AidanBell said:
I freely admit that I'm a Newbie when it comes to rooting; this post is to ask if anyone can please recommend a good source of reading matter to help me get started rooting my Streak?
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There are several threads and even a sticky you'd have to be blind or flat lazy to miss to not have seen it with ALL the info you need
Please note the word "Newbie". I have indeed found many threads and pages, all of which dive into the subject as if it's second nature. I don't even know what a "Sticky" IS! I'm an intelligent person, PC literate, perfectly capable of rooting a phone, I'm sure. But I have utterly no experience of doing so. I'm sure there are many people in my position, and I'm simply looking for a user-friendly starting point. Thanks.
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Please note the word "Newbie". I have indeed found many threads and pages, all of which dive into the subject as if it's second nature. I don't even know what a "Sticky" IS! I'm an intelligent person, PC literate, perfectly capable of rooting a phone, I'm sure. But I have utterly no experience of doing so. I'm sure there are many people in my position, and I'm simply looking for a user-friendly starting point. Thanks.
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Hey - I was lost when I first started to flash my first rom. I found a number of different sources which all helped in their own little way. I'll gladly talk you through each step. Have you rooted your phone yet? There is an excellent video on (youtube.com/watch?v=60z9YBv9Ksw) youtube to help you along - visit the unlockr's how to's also (//theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/dell-streak-how-tos/)
Many thanks thecelticchimp. I'm gonna check the links you've kindly given and if there's enough there to give me a basic grounding then I'll bite the bullet and do the deed this evening.
read the top 5 or 6 threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=698
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Hey - I was lost when I first started to flash my first rom. I found a number of different sources which all helped in their own little way. I'll gladly talk you through each step. Have you rooted your phone yet? There is an excellent video on (youtube.com/watch?v=60z9YBv9Ksw) youtube to help you along - visit the unlockr's how to's also (//theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/dell-streak-how-tos/)
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Oh dear, foiled at the first hurdle! My phone's build number is 15609. Theunlockr.com sends me to
http://android.modaco.com/topic/316229-19aug-streak-21-downloads-how-tos-rom-superboot-recovery/
where I can't find any reference to that build number, therefore can't find the necessary Superboot files.
Help? ... !
Your first problem is trying to use Superboot. You don't need to, and it's not recommended to use it in any event. All you need to know is how to use Fastboot properly.
The second problem is that you're trying to do this cold. For a bit of an assist, try looking in the apparently little known Wiki on the site here. There is a flashing guide for the Dell Streak there and one very critical piece of advice on it that is a must read, though duplicated on some of the threads.
I am going to recommend that you spend some time reading up before attempting to flash the Streak, or you will very likely end up with a nice, shiny, and very expensive paperweight.
OK, for the moment I'm going to be content with a factory reset and no root.
I think if one of you experts out there fancies a little project it would be to write exactly what the sarcastic "No spoonfeeding here" signature doesn't want; a "Rooting for beginners" guide.
I'm told I don't need to use Superboot, but I thought Superboot WAS rooting. Truth be told all I wanted to do was to be able to uninstall unwanted pre-loaded software on my Streak, not much more than that.
Despite kind people's encouraging words that rooting is now very straightforward, Strephon's timely warning reminds me that it isn't. I think I'll take the easy way out and wait until someone IS prepared to spoon feed me!
Sticky posts are set up so that they never disappear from page 1 of the forum you are reading. They are also so that critical information, such as how to root the streak without bricking it, is easy to find. Rooting the Streak is quite easy; far easier than other devices. Yet it's still possible to brick it if you do not read up on what you're supposed to be doing.
If you were truly a noob I'd have given you a link. However, you have been with the site a while, and thus you should by now know the rules, especially rule 1: search before you post. Thus, no spoonfeeding for you. Use the search engine and the stickies. That is why we have them.
Duly ticked off! Many thanks for the help and advice, I'll start reading...
Cheers,
Aidan
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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AFAIK camera is broken in all new KitKat roms. If you need working cameras use Jelly Bean or ICS builds.
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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Before flashing, did you even bother to read through any of the dev or Q&A threads, or do you always just blindly install the most critical software for any device without thought or ramifications of the consequences? To put it bluntly, it shows a profound carelessness at best, or at worse, willful ignorance. Every dev thread here lists either in the first or second post a list of known bugs with their ROMs. ALL versions of KitKat regardless of the author have serious issues at the moment. Even the most casual of glances would have revealed this to you. To start a new thread over a known major issue is a redundant waste of time and bandwidth.
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Before flashing, did you even bother to read through any of the dev or Q&A threads, or do you always just blindly install the most critical software for any device without thought or ramifications of the consequences? To put it bluntly, it shows a profound carelessness at best, or at worse, willful ignorance. Every dev thread here lists either in the first or second post a list of known bugs with their ROMs. ALL versions of KitKat regardless of the author have serious issues at the moment. Even the most casual of glances would have revealed this to you. To start a new thread over a known major issue is a redundant waste of time and bandwidth.
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Typical geek answer, "normal" from a "kid" that doesn't have friends in real life, and he hides himself behind a computer, pretending that he's the best and smarter then everyone else...
If i wrote here, was because i was looking for help, not for some stupid replies...
Thanks for nothing loser... Keep those comments to your friends that speak "bit and bites"...
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"bit and bites"...
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I just peeked in the Dev thread for PAC-Man ROM 4.4.2 for Ruby.
See post #6:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50798437&postcount=6
Also, see posts:
11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 35, 38.
There is a hint of a temporary fix here, in post 39:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51491700&postcount=39
Odysseus1962 said:
May I suggest that in the future, you at least take a minute or two, to read through and familiarize yourself with what you're undertaking before doing so, in order to prevent wasting everyone else's time with your complaining about a very well known issue.
Edit: Sorry I came on so strong. Listen, everyone was a newbie once, but it's not an excuse for acting like one. You may not have many posts, but you've been here for awhile. There's a wealth of info on the posts pinned to the top of the forums, including board etiquette. If you discover what you think is a bug or if you have an issue, you should post in the Q&A thread for that ROM. But before posting there, you should read through both the Q&A and dev thread to see if it's already known from being previously reported. This keeps clutter off the board and focuses problem solving to the proper channels.
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Incidentally, it's poor etiquette to call someone "loser."
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I just peeked in the Dev thread for PAC-Man ROM 4.4.2 for Ruby.
See post #6:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50798437&postcount=6
Also, see posts:
11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 35, 38.
There is a hint of a temporary fix here, in post 39:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51491700&postcount=39
Incidentally, it's poor etiquette to call someone "loser."
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Thanks a lot for or reply, i will check the posts... that was exactly what i was expecting from this site,... HELP!
Calling "loser" wasn't nice? I think it was... After the reply that he did to my comment, i think i was too nice, when i call him "loser"...
Once again, thanks a lot... :good:
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Typical geek answer, "normal" from a "kid" that doesn't have friends in real life, and he hides himself behind a computer, pretending that he's the best and smarter then everyone else...
If i wrote here, was because i was looking for help, not for some stupid replies...
Thanks for nothing loser... Keep those comments to your friends that speak "bit and bites"...
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Bugaman said:
Thanks a lot for or reply, i will check the posts... that was exactly what i was expecting from this site,... HELP!
Calling "loser" wasn't nice? I think it was... After the reply that he did to my comment, i think i was too nice, when i call him "loser"...
Once again, thanks a lot... :good:
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FYI Spanky, I'm no kid, I'm a 51yo man, a truck driver (Teamsters Local 769), who could drop you in a heartbeat. If I (someone with no formal IT training and a HS diploma from 30 years ago) can figure this out in my off-time, between dealing with work, and my family, what's your excuse? All you had to do was look at my profile before speaking out of the wrong orifice, and you'd know this.
It appears you're even less capable than I gave you credit for in my previous post, since you show a proclivity for being unable to read or do research, and have wedged your foot so far into you mouth that it's impossible to extricate. I've forgotten more than you've ever learned (obviously not a high bar to leap over). Unlike yourself, I contribute here towards providing useful info and help to others who're willing to help themselves. Hence, my high ratio of thanks to posts in a short time here. You, on the other hand, have never provided one bit of useful information in your much longer time on the board (which is easily verified by searching your previous posts).
I don't pretend to be smarter than you, I know I am! That's because I have enough common sense to know my abilities and limitations, something you obviously lack. You seem to have selected an apropos handle, "Insectman." So by all means, obliviously continue along in your vacuous ways, and slither back into the damp crevice you were hiding in. Have a nice day!!!!
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FYI Spanky, I'm no kid, I'm a 51yo man, a truck driver (Teamsters Local 769), who could drop you in a heartbeat.
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You're also very rude.
You wasted more time insulting the guy than you did helping him. While I do support use of the search function sometimes it is not so clear cut for people. The first response you typed out was extremely unwarranted IMHO. This one, not much better. You seem to have quite the ego.
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You're also very rude.
You wasted more time insulting the guy than you did helping him. While I do support use of the search function sometimes it is not so clear cut for people. The first response you typed out was extremely unwarranted IMHO. This one, not much better. You seem to have quite the ego.
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I'm sorry, he's rude? LOL Bruh, look at his thanks meter. He's HELPING people. He knows his stuff, so he deserves to have an ego. ESPECIALLY since he built his own ROM.
But I guess you're too fat headed yourself to be humble and accept the fact that this thread could have been avoided if the OP had just read the changelog. Let's face it, if by some mishap the OP had bricked his device he'd be crying for help (just like I did) and I know for a fact that I didn't read anything before (cause I was stupid, and I can acknowledge the fact that I used to be ignorant and now I take the time to read through the forums properly before I post unnecessarily, and Ody here has helped me a great deal.)
So before you go calling people rude and judge them prematurely, take a minute to really think about what you want to post.
PS. he did apologize, so I see no need for you to be bashing him still. I, on the other hand, don't give a damn.
I'm bored, so I went through the Q&A
Remind me not to do this again.
@Darin_Ram, thanks for your strong defense. I do greatly appreciate it, however, the truth of the matter is that @sam_conrad is correct. I was rude to the OP. No matter how much good I do in assisting others here it doesn't mitigate the matter, because two wrongs don't make a right. I lost my cool when I read the comments he directed towards me and lashed out in an unbecoming manner. For this there is no excuse. If my kids had behaved in such a way I would have had a conniption, so I should expect no less from myself.
Thanks again for your heartfelt comments.
Did you maked backup of your last rom
Bugaman said:
Hi, after flashing this rom "pac_ruby-nightly-20140428", my camera stop working...
I tried already to install "pac_ruby_4.4.Alpha-1_20140302-235050", but now says "Blame split screen", need hel, i don't know what to do...
Thanks
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DID YOU MAKED BACKUP OF YOUR LAST ROM IF NOT DON"T CRY JUST FOLLOW STEPS
Download this rom Click Here
Flash rom using HTC Amaze 4G All-In-One Toolkit V5.2 - (Extras-Flash Factory RUU zip)
backup?
jitz_ said:
DID YOU MAKED BACKUP OF YOUR LAST ROM IF NOT DON"T CRY JUST FOLLOW STEPS
Download this rom Click Here
Flash rom using HTC Amaze 4G All-In-One Toolkit V5.2 - (Extras-Flash Factory RUU zip)
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Link's not working.
Maybe what you are offering is that if he can't recover his original system from his nandroid backup, he can download and flash a stock ROM, such as this GingerBread (courtesy ravike14 signature):
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/developer/2184/2115/ruby_unsigned_021812_031444.zip
or perhaps a stock from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617644
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@Darin_Ram, thanks for your strong defense. I do greatly appreciate it, however, the truth of the matter is that @sam_conrad is correct. I was rude to the OP. No matter how much good I do in assisting others here it doesn't mitigate the matter, because two wrongs don't make a right. I lost my cool when I read the comments he directed towards me and lashed out in an unbecoming manner. For this there is no excuse. If my kids had behaved in such a way I would have had a conniption, so I should expect no less from myself.
Thanks again for your heartfelt comments.
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This is a much more noble reply. While you're extremely helpful to the community, and I never disagreed that you are, it's no excuse to be an ass. There is never a "deserving right" to be rude in any case. In my world, at least, the people treat each other with respect or they're gone. I know that I don't have time to deal with people that don't want to move forward and get along. Regardless of how stupid some peers might seem, or how smart one may believe he/she is, I think showing some humility and always staying grounded goes a long way.
I often tell people that some of the world's greatest minds are the dumbest of us all - some of your behavior represented why. When we're in an advantaged position of knowledge, we should encourage others to learn from us, not the other way around.
@Darin_Ram - no need to throw personal jabs at me, trying to tell me I'm full of myself (or "fat headed"), please and thank you. I don't claim to be a genius in any regard, and especially not the mobile space. I just have found Ody on a few too many accounts to be unnecessarily rude... My own focus is on computer networking and desktop PCs. :good: I usually reside at XtremeSystems.org and HWBOT.org due to my hobby of extreme LN2 overclocking.
Use original rom of htc
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Link's not working.
Maybe what you are offering is that if he can't recover his original system from his nandroid backup, he can download and flash a stock ROM, such as this GingerBread (courtesy ravike14 signature):
http://download2.clockworkmod.com/developer/2184/2115/ruby_unsigned_021812_031444.zip
or perhaps a stock from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617644
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BEST OPTION EVER AFTER GETTING THROUGH ALL THE ROM FROM DEV FORUM I FOUND THAT NO ONE IS PROPER AND COMPATIBLE FOR OUR DEVICE ONLY ORIGINAL ROM ALLOW YOU TO USE ALL THE FEATURE STRESS FREE + STABLE VERSION BE SMART !
ONE DAY YOU HAVE TO BACK AGAIN FOR THIS ROM .. I ALWAYS DO SO .. MAY BE EXPERIENCED PERSON AGREE WITH ME !
:good:
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Hello,
I recently got a HDX 7" and had it rolledback to 13.3.2.7 and got it rooted and safestraped with a backup of stock on my pc and a image i am messing around with.
Whoever i would like to flash normal android on,my question is how do i do that and what are the compatibility issues and risks i face if i flash it with safestrap.
Thanks in advance
wow
Davengerr said:
Hello,
I recently got a HDX 7" and had it rolledback to 13.3.2.7 and got it rooted and safestraped with a backup of stock on my pc and a image i am messing around with.
Whoever i would like to flash normal android on,my question is how do i do that and what are the compatibility issues and risks i face if i flash it with safestrap.
Thanks in advance
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wow sorry bud but that's just way too much information to just drag over here to your thread it all depends on if you're capable of doing the job correctlyI would highly recommend going over to the development section and just start reading that is the only way you are going to know for sure is 250 peoples experiences not just one that comes over here to your thread and decides to give you a quick easy information. It is what it is.everything you dreamed of knowing about this device is here if you're willing to look for it...there are a bunch of very very recent development items that you're going to want to do your own homework on anyway not just one guy that thinks he knows it all come over here and help you screw up your device...good luck and enjoy your new Kindle
to sum it up there are risks with everything depending on ability to do proper research, comprehension level and ability to follow directions. .hell for some wiping their ass and tying their shoes have more risk than safestrap does when used properly.
@jimyv : I look around some similar thread, I can see many of your comment, you always typed many many things, but mostly no useful information for newbie point of view, even an useful link.
If you can not help them, just get out and no need to comment.
Sorry, but it is a little bit annoyed here.
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@jimyv : I look around some similar thread, I can see many of your comment, you always typed many many things, but mostly no useful information for newbie point of view, even an useful link.
If you can not help them, just get out and no need to comment.
Sorry, but it is a little bit annoyed here.
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well I'm sorry that you haven't found many of my comments useful obviously you haven't read very many of them but obviously some of my more aggravated ones have caught your attention you're welcome to look at my profile and check out my activity for the last year and a half I helped over a dozen people fix their bricked devices and contributed and many many helpful links which resulted in nothing but people trolling and being lazy and lazier and lazier I am simply trying to get people to do as I did and research and find their own information before adding additional clutter tothe forums...it's fine to be a noob everybody has been a noob at one time. And when you spend enough time here and with enough devices you will figure out that you just cannot help lazy people that are unwilling to find their own research at least to an extent. You're welcome to spend hundreds of hours of your time running around the forums cutting and pasting links to help the lazy ones but soon you will figure out that's all you are doing is enabling a growing problem. in other words the more I have helped them the less they actually knew orlearn because of not doing something the long way.
as some would say anything worth having is worth earning it yourself for the hard work / research. I noticed that most of the folks that do exactly these kinds of threads all of a sudden think they know everything. And then brick because they don't know near as much as I they need to because somebody came over to their one thread and gave them a little information or a couple of links. that they only partially read anyway. And then they are starting another thread. Titled PLEASE HELP I BRICKED MY DEVICE!!! identical to 30 threads that are dealing with the identical situations and .I have personally been up for several hours at a timetrying to help these types of people and they just simply cannot follow directions. And or most the time trying to translate it and screw it up in the translation somehow and then run away and start another thread because they still cannot get it right no matter how many people are trying to help them or how many links you give them. It's a waste of resources and everybody's time.it's just unbelievable to me that all this information is here already if they would just go and find them. they just choose not to. or believe they do not have the time to read them and expect special treatment and or catered to for some reason...I'm sorry I made the time and I'm a busy man and it seems disrespectful to me for anybody else to think they deserve different treatment
so to sum it up you are welcome to spend even half as much time in these forums researching reading and dragging pasting and copying links and see if you don't get a little bitter when you like to come here and find stuff yourself and its all cluttered up with repetition and threads starting with a question that was answered in the thread that was right below theirs READ THE THREADS and learn from other peoples experiences. Then you will adequately realize the risk that you are taking. You are not getting enough information when you start one of these threads to go doing the modifications that people are doing. All the information is here .
that's annoying it happens way too often and a lot more often than my snappy comments..
i vote @jimyv for moderator
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i vote @jimyv for moderator
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glad somebody still has a sense of humor lol I know from experience you can tend to get a little jaded hanging around here too much. I can't help but lurk though..I do own three HDX devices and development has been pretty much a dead fish.( until very recently I must say very cheesy) Compared to the other 15 devices that I maintain for myself and family. As a full-time mechanic and father I spend way too much time in here I know. and to those that have been insultedby what I have had to say I am probably speaking directly to you ,others probably just get a kick from me watching get aggravated. And many more out there that are silent know exactly what I am speaking of and refuse to help anybody anymore because said issues (much of the true talent) unfortunately,and that is the true loss.