My note 5 got stolen and I was thinking of buying rn4 but I a have some questions

My note 5 got stolen and I was thinking of buying rn4 but I a have some questions - Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Questions & Answers

Hi,
I just wanted to know how does the mobile compares to the note 5 in terms of customization? I mean is there something like Knox in xiaomi phones which hinders rooting ? are there good custom ROMs that are close to stock as I seeing that many are using cyanogen mod and I don't want to use it.Are there any drawbacks I should know about? and finally, will this device have a good lifetime or will it stop receiving updates after a year or so? and if no then what device would you recommend ? Does it support Qualcomm quick charge ? will I lose the miui features if I use any of the custom roms ?

Here are a few things I like to highlight when people ask if they want to buy this phone
1. The camera SUCKS SO BAD. it gets even WORSE when you use custom ROMS
2. The custom ROMs will always be buggy because XIAOMI does not release the FULL codes/source for us to be able to have non-buggy custom ROMs
3. There are two ways to get updates; a. via stable ROM that gets updated like twice a year and b. Via developer/beta ROM that gets updated every week. You will get updates but XIAOMI is known to not upgrade the android version (like from marshmellow to nougat) but you will get updates just not android version updates.
4. Usually you will lose a few XIAOMI/MIUI features if you use custom ROMs (due to xiaomi not releasing full/complete source code)
5. You will need to ask permission to unlock bootloader and then root (takes around 1 week/3days to get it approved) and the process can be a hit or miss
6. No quickcharge. The Redmi Note 4 takes around 2 hours and 15 minutes from 1% to 100%
IF YOU WANT INSANE BATTERY LIFE get the REDMI NOTE 4X THAT IS BASED ON SNAPDRAGON 625 SOC
IF YOU WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE PERFORMANCE BUT SACRIFICE 50% BATTERY LIFE (COMPARED TO REDMI NOTE 4X) GET THE REDMI NOTE 4 BASED ON THE MTK HELIO X20
THE REDMI NOTE 4 HELIO X20 MTK IS KNOWN TO HAVE SOME HEATING ISSUES. IT CAN LAG IN GAMES DUE TO IT.
THE REDMI NOTE 4X SNAPDRAGON 625 DOES NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE BUT SACRIFICES LIKE 10% PERFORMANCE BUT ALMOST WITH ZERO GAMES LAG DUE TO ITS POWEREFFICIENT PROCESSOR
Hope this has helped you in any way
My opinion: For the price, there is no other better phone than the REDMI NOTE 4X SNAPDRAGON 625 but you will have to live with the bad camera (terrible in low light and indoors, decent in well lit environment) and possibility of not getting android version upgrades
. But you will get a snappy phone with very good battery life (10 hours screen on time form 2 days from 1 full charge).

asusm930 said:
Here are a few things I like to highlight when people ask if they want to buy this phone
1. The camera SUCKS SO BAD. it gets even WORSE when you use custom ROMS
2. The custom ROMs will always be buggy because XIAOMI does not release the FULL codes/source for us to be able to have non-buggy custom ROMs
3. There are two ways to get updates; a. via stable ROM that gets updated like twice a year and b. Via developer/beta ROM that gets updated every week. You will get updates but XIAOMI is known to not upgrade the android version (like from marshmellow to nougat) but you will get updates just not android version updates.
4. Usually you will lose a few XIAOMI/MIUI features if you use custom ROMs (due to xiaomi not releasing full/complete source code)
5. You will need to ask permission to unlock bootloader and then root (takes around 1 week/3days to get it approved) and the process can be a hit or miss
6. No quickcharge. The Redmi Note 4 takes around 2 hours and 15 minutes from 1% to 100%
IF YOU WANT INSANE BATTERY LIFE get the REDMI NOTE 4X THAT IS BASED ON SNAPDRAGON 625 SOC
IF YOU WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE PERFORMANCE BUT SACRIFICE 50% BATTERY LIFE (COMPARED TO REDMI NOTE 4X) GET THE REDMI NOTE 4 BASED ON THE MTK HELIO X20
THE REDMI NOTE 4 HELIO X20 MTK IS KNOWN TO HAVE SOME HEATING ISSUES. IT CAN LAG IN GAMES DUE TO IT.
THE REDMI NOTE 4X SNAPDRAGON 625 DOES NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE BUT SACRIFICES LIKE 10% PERFORMANCE BUT ALMOST WITH ZERO GAMES LAG DUE TO ITS POWEREFFICIENT PROCESSOR
Hope this has helped you in any way
My opinion: For the price, there is no other better phone than the REDMI NOTE 4X SNAPDRAGON 625 but you will have to live with the bad camera (terrible in low light and indoors, decent in well lit environment) and possibility of not getting android version upgrades
. But you will get a snappy phone with very good battery life (10 hours screen on time form 2 days from 1 full charge).
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agree

MohamedRaafat said:
Hi,
I just wanted to know how does the mobile compares to the note 5 in terms of customization? I mean is there something like Knox in xiaomi phones which hinders rooting ? are there good custom ROMs that are close to stock as I seeing that many are using cyanogen mod and I don't want to use it.Are there any drawbacks I should know about? and finally, will this device have a good lifetime or will it stop receiving updates after a year or so? and if no then what device would you recommend ? Does it support Qualcomm quick charge ? will I lose the miui features if I use any of the custom roms ?
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-There custom roms based on stock miui. Check for Xiaomi.eu
-It does not support quickcharge right now. After kernel sources are released you will get almost qc 2.0(constant 2,5A charge)
-Xiaomi will release android 7 for this device but you will get miui 9-10-11 updates for 3 years.
-Rooting and unlocking is not that hard. No knox or any program to count that.

TacoNikky said:
-There custom roms based on stock miui. Check for Xiaomi.eu
-It does not support quickcharge right now. After kernel sources are released you will get almost qc 2.0(constant 2,5A charge)
-Xiaomi will release android 7 for this device but you will get miui 9-10-11 updates for 3 years.
-Rooting and unlocking is not that hard. No knox or any program to count that.
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Thanks for your reply,
should I buy though the redmi note 4 or note 4x both are snapdragon variants?
xiaomi.eu doesn't seem to work for me btw
what is the best situation for the the phone ? I mean are there certain benefits to being rooted on stock ? or is there some good stock like custom rom or hybrid ones I should use like I dunno linage os ?
I don't know if my question is clear enough or not but what I mean is which of the choices I mentioned offers th best stability and gets the latest features ?

MohamedRaafat said:
Thanks for your comprehensive reply,
What is the stable rom that gets updated twice a year and is there a difference between the 4 and 4x both having snapdragon processor?
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The Redmi Note 4 in general refers to the Redmi Note 4 MTK that is sold in China
The Redmi Note 4X is the snapdragon Version sold in CHINA
but
In certain countries, like Malaysia, where they dont sell the Redmi Note 4 MTK, the Snapdragon version is called Redmi Note 4. In Hong Kong the snapdragon version is called The Redmi Note 4, too, which makes it a little bit confusing.

@op is you never used miui rom my first advice to you go to Youtube and see miui 8 video some people like miui some hate it personally i hate miui too much so using custom rom.
In custom rom no bug at all just camera is not good compare to stock rom.
Rooting rn4 take apporx 10-15 days.

MohamedRaafat said:
Thanks for your reply,
should I buy though the redmi note 4 or note 4x both are snapdragon variants?
xiaomi.eu doesn't seem to work for me btw
what is the best situation for the the phone ? I mean are there certain benefits to being rooted on stock ? or is there some good stock like custom rom or hybrid ones I should use like I dunno linage os ?
I don't know if my question is clear enough or not but what I mean is which of the choices I mentioned offers th best stability and gets the latest features ?
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Check the link below. It explains rn 4 qualcom vs rn 4x
As a summary 4x supports more lte bands. Buy 4x.
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=524344&extra=page=2&mobile=2
I suggest this device to you because it gives really good value for price.
Custom roms which based on miui is really close to stock rom. Always you have lineage option.
Miui is better on visuality and animations.
Lineage is better on performance. You have theme support as well. You can change visuality(menus, settings, status bar) to sony, samsung or huawei style.
Advantages of being rooted are removing ads, changing cpu freqs for better battery or performance. Double tap to wake, double tap to sleep options available when you are rooted.

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[Q] cm 13 ? Bad battery life

Is ther anyone going to develop cm 13 for the redmi note 2?
I have the note 2 for 1 month and im very disapointed from the battery life ... Is this a known issue? Im withe cm12.1 from this forum. I bought an extra battery and external charger.

As long as no sources are provided, no one can improve the kernel in any way.
IF a MIUI version based on android 6 is released for this device, ports might be done, but nothing's for sure...

Batterylife really isnt a strenght of the RmN2.
Try to dl The Redmi Note 2 tool from the playstore
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.xmister.hermestool
You can Downlock the cores of the cpu or disable some etc.
Really good tool to save a lot of battery

thanks for sharing the tool

Game Crashes >> RN3 Pro

Hey Guys,
just a little question.
Im running a MIUI 7.4 6.5.12 Rom and no matter what game i play, i get lots of crashes
like every 5-10 minutes and im not talking about heavy graphic/hardware intense games.
Now im wondering i can do something about it like trying a non-MIUI rom or something?
Maybe u have a hint for me, this bugs me a lot :/
Especially since my old LG G2 didnt crash a single time with the same games (summoners war, warriors of glory, punch quest etc.)

i play plenty of games on it, haven't had a crash even once though. first of all try to do a clean flash of your firmware.
you can backup and restore your apps with the mi backup feature so you won't lose your data.

i already did that when i got the phone....had a global stable rom on it and i completely replaced all the stuff and started from scratch

I'm having the same issue on my RN3
monkeytown said:
Hey Guys,
just a little question.
Im running a MIUI 7.4 6.5.12 Rom and no matter what game i play, i get lots of crashes
like every 5-10 minutes and im not talking about heavy graphic/hardware intense games.
Now im wondering i can do something about it like trying a non-MIUI rom or something?
Maybe u have a hint for me, this bugs me a lot :/
Especially since my old LG G2 didnt crash a single time with the same games (summoners war, warriors of glory, punch quest etc.)
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I'm having the same issue on my RN3 with 8.2.2.0 global stable ROM, did you find any fix?

shiaro01 said:
I'm having the same issue on my RN3 with 8.2.2.0 global stable ROM, did you find any fix?
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hey there, havent been here in a while but i didnt have any problems at all since i used the xiaomi.eu rom
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/7-5-4.39900/
maybe u can give it a try!

Just need to know, can I flash the recovery and ROMs of xiaomi redmi note 3 on xiaomi redmi note 3 pro since there seems no special thread for that?

TheCloudOne said:
Just need to know, can I flash the recovery and ROMs of xiaomi redmi note 3 on xiaomi redmi note 3 pro since there seems no special thread for that?
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Do you have a MTK or Qualcomm Snapdragon processor? See in Settings - About phone

I think he has Mediatek version which may have crashes. In Snapdragon version I never faced force close on any heavy games since last 1 year
You cannot flash recovery and rom of Snapdragon variant on Mediatek variant- TheCloudOne
Monkeytown can you try xiaomi.eu roms? I am using it and it works very well with 1.5-1.8 gb free ram available on 3gb ram version

Noter2017 said:
Do you have a MTK or Qualcomm Snapdragon processor? See in Settings - About phone
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It's Snapdragon

Redmi note 4 with custom roms or Mi A1?

I am buying a new phone and I am not sure whether to get the note 4 with its bigger battery and install a custom rom on it (I can never use miui) or just get the A1 shipped with the vanilla android, are rn4's custom roms stable and smooth or the builds are not that good? Will the A1 be faster than rn4 with lineage or rrn for example? I like RN4 more because of the bigger battery, I don't mind the camera at all.
I also knew there are some rn4s that have mic issues as well as dead pixels, is that true?

if for custom roms for mido then most of them are stable and can be used as daily driver. And about the dead pixels i think it is true as my phone too some. I think it is the problem with mido bought from flipkart. So you can buy from mi.com.

[email protected]!$h said:
if for custom roms for mido then most of them are stable and can be used as daily driver. And about the dead pixels i think it is true as my phone too some. I think it is the problem with mido bought from flipkart. So you can buy from mi.com.
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What about the in call mic in custom roms? I know they did fix the issue with latest versions of miui, by tweaking the noise cancelation algorithm, is that present on custom roms?

Ahmed Kassem said:
What about the in call mic in custom roms? I know they did fix the issue with latest versions of miui, by tweaking the noise cancelation algorithm, is that present on custom roms?
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i didnt experience any problem with call mic in custom roms. It works fine.

and what about a signal drop when phone is charging and being heated up in custom roms?

If you like the looks of a1 go with that, else RN4 checks every box with a custom ROM. Even camera is far better with the Google camera.
Also performance is silky smooth , I am using Paranoid Android 7.3 currently, everything works fine and battery life is also good.

Jexbox said:
If you like the looks of a1 go with that, else RN4 checks every box with a custom ROM. Even camera is far better with the Google camera.
Also performance is silky smooth , I am using Paranoid Android 7.3 currently, everything works fine and battery life is also good.
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I like the RN4 more because of the bigger battery but what frightens me most actually is the in call mic problems, I saw thousands of people complaining about it on forums, if my unit happens to be affected, do custom roms solve it or I will have to stick on miui newest version because it has the noise cancellation disabled?

Go with A1. A1 battery is good. You won't regret

Look, am not sure about mi a1 when it comes to development due to its A/B partition and etc stuffs. You won't see much development I guess.
If you look properly there has been a port of mi a1 stock Rom for redmi note 4 snapdragon variant just posted. It's been confirmed by Xiaomi on its Mi a1 launch event that mi a1 will get official oOreo by end of this year. So, choice is yours. If you want stock with latest otas everytime then mi a1, if youre a custom Roms lover then mido.

why does my le max 2 feels laggy?

so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates

Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.

Heyyo, yeah depending on your build of EUI ROM? It'll suck. Anything prior to 19s is definitely garbage. X821 19s was pretty good and same with x829 20s or x820 30s (albeit with ads). The best way to experience EUI ROM is CrisBalGreece modified versions.
Otherwise? I highly recommend custom ROMs. We have a lot of great Android 9 ROMs and Android 10 is pretty decent albeit with more bugs.

bluehillday said:
so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...

funtikar said:
It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
popoyaya said:
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
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what rom variant do you recommend? also are android 10 version stable enough or should i flash older android 9?

bluehillday said:
so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW

funtikar said:
The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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so today i have instaled the first time a custom ROM,after struggling with twrp for 2hours . i have instaled AospExtended ROM V6.0 [X2] (adroid PIE) . it move more smoothly for sure,but not sure it moves this way beucase it's just a fresh rom..will way some weeks to see if it keeps up.
and about instaling a custom kerne . isn't that coming instaled with the ROM?

I have my device for nearly two years, and I am using eui 6.0.30s CBG cleaned edition since last year... I never face any kind of lag or bug except the lag caused by power save mod, which automatically enables itself when the battery goes down under %5. I think full wipe+reinstall firmware would be a great solution for you.

Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.

ThE_MarD said:
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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dude.. people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling. .. I never had to do that on SD800/801 phones lol...
since you are very determined that its not a bad phone , I'm taking out my Le Max 2 a second time .... hehe... I occasionally play Mobile Legends.. any other tips you can give?

Nexus 5 was SD800 and was known for overheating issues
https://www.technobezz.com/fix-overheating-problem-nexus-5/
Like I said, the main thing would be to switch to a custom ROM that has Android Pie and is decently updated. Most of those pie custom ROMs will have pretty decent thermals while still delivering decent performance.

I need some help for picking a rom.

So I have a redmi note 5 (vince) which i bought a few years ago from India. During lockdown, I got tired of MIUI, and decided to unlock bootloader and flash Pixel Experience. What I found is that I got a horrible gaming experience, and it took a decent amount of space.
Can anyone help me find a good gaming rom, with low ram usage? PE is pretty bad in terms of memory allocation etc.

Stock china miui is the best but add my tweaks for smoother experience from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-5-plus-themes-apps-and-mod.7422/ why would i recommend ? Because not only i tried pixel rom but also havoc, miui 12 ports , bliss os, lineage. etc they all have same problem and that is performance degrade and buggy roms.

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