I noticed today that my screen lock isn't working most of the time. Anyone else having this problem? I've tried resetting it without luckluck
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If you mean using a PIN or pattern then yes, I have noticed this. If you set a PIN and lock the screen manually (pressing the power button) then it should require a PIN to unlock the screen, but it does not. It still does if the timer setting expires but it should require a PIN anytime you lock the screen. This is the same security bug that the skyrocket had. You can bypass the bug by setting the timer to immediate but that is such a pain to put in your in your PIN every time the screen times out...
planoman said:
If you set a PIN and lock the screen manually (pressing the power button) then it should require a PIN to unlock the screen, but it does not. It still does if the timer setting expires but it should require a PIN anytime you lock the screen.
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That's not a bug in either phone. Do you want to enter your pin every time you accidentally hit the power button? You don't have to set the timer to expire immediately, just set it fairly low.
techntrek said:
That's not a bug in either phone. Do you want to enter your pin every time you accidentally hit the power button? You don't have to set the timer to expire immediately, just set it fairly low.
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Accidentally press the power button? I have never done that. I understand about the timer, but it should require a PIN if you lock the phone with the button. I tested this on my International GNote and my skyrocket (after the security fix) and they both work as they should...if it is not a bug it is not the same as the other Samsung phones running touchwiz 4. It is not a big deal but it does exit.
Edit: It was the SGSII on ATT not the skyrocket with the security bug.
The timer is there for this purpose:
* for most ppl who like the convienence of not to use PIN all the time, timer is a great feature. You only need PIN when you let it idle for a while.
* for those paranoid, set the timer to immediate and you get what you want.
There is no security issue. It's a new feature introduced in GB.
Remember, for most ppl, power button is a key/screen touch lock so that they can safely pocket the phone without worrying about butt dialing.
Bingo. You get the best of both worlds depending on your needs. I'm very happy mine doesn't lock right away.
planoman - don't worry, you'll hit the power button. In landscape mode it is right where your fingers sit (or if you have it the other way the volume button is right there).
Let me make this easier:
1. It is not a big deal.
2. It is not that way on my skyrocket or International GNote which have GB.
3. I understand about the timer. It works fine once the time set elapses.
4. If you want to lock the phone by intentionally pressing the power button to lock you phone before the timer kicks in, it will not lock.
5. The ATT Galaxy S II launched with the same thing and everyone called it a security flaw
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-30/tech/30228702_1_samsung-flaw-timeout
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4. If you want to lock the phone by intentionally pressing the power button to lock you phone before the timer kicks in, it will not lock.
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Hence you didn't under stand the timer at all. There are two timers: screen timer and lock timer. Don't confuse the two.
Let me make it easier for you to understand, the purpose of lock timer is to enable the lock screen when your phone idles pass the timer. Hit power button mearly inidcates that you are indeed put the phone into idle state, not start lock the phone. The actual lock won't be required until the timers elapses. This is a convienence feature so that more ppl will use the PIN lock on their phone (a good thing). A lot of ppl I know don't use PIN lock simply because they don't want to be bothered to entry PIN every 5 seconds. Yes, most ppl use power button to turn off the screen to save battery as well as avoid unintentional action on the phone. They don't use power button to LOCK the phone.
Since you like to use power button to LOCk the phone, you should set the timer to immdiate and call it a day.
5. The ATT Galaxy S II launched with the same thing and everyone called it a security flaw
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-30/tech/30228702_1_samsung-flaw-timeout
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The reporters who called it security flaw don't understand the issue at all just like you. IIRC, BGR is the first one posted such thing. And we all know how BGR is ALWAYS correct on Android stuff
The bug in SG2 is rather a UI bug. Instead of showing you a normal swipe to unlock screen, it showed a pattern unlock screen but the underlying code works correctly (it doesn't need unlock pattern at that time). Hence it throw everyone off. The UI bug has been fixed in 2.3.6 update but the timer feature still works as it should.
foxbat121 said:
Hence you didn't under stand the timer at all. There are two timers: screen timer and lock timer. Don't confuse the two.
The reporters who called it security flaw doesn't understand the issue at all just like you. IIRC, BGR is the first one posted such thing.
The bug in SG2 is rather a UI bug. Instead of showing you a normal swipe to unlock screen, it showed a pattern unlock screen but the underlying code works correctly (it doesn't need unlock pattern at that time). Hence it throw everyone off. The UI bug has been fixed in 2.3.6 update but the timer feature still works as it should.
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You know that feeling when you know you are right and someone is trying to argue a point and they just don"t get it? yeah..I have that feeling right now. Give it up. I know exactly what I am talking about.
If this was not a problem why did Samsung release a statement on it and deploy a fix for the ATT SGSII? It was for pattern lock ot PIN lock. Just because you do not use the phone like that does ot mean it is working as it should. Have you tried it on any other Samsung phones? I have stated that I tried it on two other Samsung phone running 2.3.6 and you are still arguing...
Stop trying to prove a point that cannot be proven. It is a bug, it is not designed to work that way and if you never ever want to intentionally lock your phone BEFORE the lock timer elapses then great! No problem for you!
From Android Central:
http://www.androidcentral.com/major-security-flaw-found-atts-upcoming-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-device
Please, Android central simple reposted the same thing from other blogs. They all do the same reposting each other without thinking. So, that's not really any proof.
This has been discussed throughly in the SGS2 forum.
The fact remains, most of us think power button not as lock button but you do. That's the only difference. And the current implementation benifits both sides. That's the point.
I understand what you are saying perfectly. I do use a PIN I have the lock timer set to ten miuntes for the reasons you stated. Normally I do not want to enter my PIN code every time...that said, there are times when I do want to hit the power button to shut the screen off or lock the phone BEFORE the 10 minutes will elapse. An example would be at home when I set my phone down so that if my kids grab it they cannot hit the power button and I come back to a screen that has my icons rearranged or missing etc. Or at a meeting in a conference room when I leave my phone sitting in the room or bag for a break etc, I usually do lock the phone just in case some one picks up my phone or worse steals it. They just need to touch the screen every nine minutes and they will have access to all of my stuff.
I get your points and do understand. My point was just because many do not use the power or lock button to intentionally lock the screen, does not mean the ATT Gnote is funtioning as designed or at least other Samsung phones with 2.3.6 and touchwiz.
So OP, it this what you were speaking of or did we miss your point entirely?
I use power button to turn off screen almost exclusively. Rarely I ever let screen timeout to turn the screen off for me. I'd be really pissed and call BUG if power button immediately lock the phone. My lock time out is set to 30 minutes so that I don't need to enter PIN in normal situations but have a piece of mind if I left my phone somewhere, it will be locked after 30 minutes.
In the old Windows Mobile days, you can hit power button the turn off the screen but you also can press and hold End Call button to lock the phone. Two separate buttons for two separate functions.
That is how my other two Sammy are as well as my captivate, og atrix, attic 2 were.
You could always set you screen timeout to 15 seconds.
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planoman said:
You could always set you screen timeout to 15 seconds.
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Then I will not use a PIN lock at all. 15 seconds means I have to use PIN all the time.
foxbat121 said:
Then I will not use a PIN lock at all. 15 seconds means I have to use PIN all the time.
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Only if you press the power button. If the screen times out at 15 seconds, the pin lock timer kicks in which for you is 30 minutes. Your lock screen works regularly unless you press the power button to turn off and "lock" the screen.
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planoman said:
Only if you press the power button. If the screen times out at 15 seconds, the pin lock timer kicks in which for you is 30 minutes. Your lock screen works regularly unless you press the power button to turn off and "lock" the screen.
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You are right. I mis-read. I'm already on 15-sec screen time out. It is still too long for me when I'm done using the phone and need to put into my pocket.
Then add a small app to your home screen which will give you 1-touch phone lock. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.droidmania.lockscreenwidget&feature=search_result
There are many others - some appear to lock and shut the screen down, some just lock.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug, I think they just changed the way the phone is designed to lock. My captivate always locked when you pushed the button right away, I like the way it works in my Note a lot better as I will push the button by accident or habit and realize I didn't finish what I was doing. My timeout is only like 15 seconds though.
camaroz28 said:
I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug, I think they just changed the way the phone is designed to lock. My captivate always locked when you pushed the button right away, I like the way it works in my Note a lot better as I will push the button by accident or habit and realize I didn't finish what I was doing. My timeout is only like 15 seconds though.
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The new time out features are introduced in GingerBread. So, I'm sure the Captivate with the new GB udpate will have the similar feature now.
They may have changed it, but as you said it is not the way other Samsung phones have been. Not a big deal for me, but I wanted folks who have like a 30 minute timer on the lockscreen to know their phone is not locked when they use the power button to turn off the screen like it would have been with other Samsung phones.
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I was used to using No Lock on my previous Android 2.3 phone:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jraf.android.nolock
Always worked flawlessly.
On my SGS III however there is an annoying side effect.
I tried it with a Pattern Lock and also a PIN lock.
With one of these active, and then telling No Lock to disable the lock, I can succesfully turn the screen back on without going through the lock. Great for car or desk use.
However as soon as I then select something from the Notifications pulldown, the Pattern or PIN lock suddenly pops up! It is like it was already running in the background, and then became activated or something.
I tried various alternative apps, such as Impel (with a script), No Lock Screen (with Only when charging), Auto Unlock Trial Edition... but all exhibited the same problem. Some would even change the Home button into a 'Show The Lock Screen" button... even worse!
I wonder if this is specific for Samsung, or SGS III, or ICS.
So, has anybody got a clue... or a fix?
I think it's an ICS thing... I've been using Delayed Lock for over a year and IIRC when ICS came out, this problem was present, however it was fixed by the dev. The other thing is that for DL to work on ICS using an unlock pattern, it needs to go in the system/apps but didn't need to on GB.
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Thanks, I'll give Delayed Lock a try.
In the mean time, still open for other suggestions and/or deeper insights into this matter!
You can just disable the lock screen in the security menu, no? I used the rooted image and Odin to root my phone but I thought the image was all stock and I have the option to have no lock.
I was wondering if there was a way to do this. You wake up your phone, it's locked. You hold the sleep button and the phone goes straight to the home screen.
Or even better, you wake the phone up by holding the sleep button and the phone idles on the lock screen for a second and then jumps to the home screen (similar to iPhone's new fingerprint scanner, but without the scanner). Maybe the lock screen can have a fake pin lock to mislead people using my phone.
I've been waiting for this for years but I don't think anyone's developed it. Would there be a way I could do it with Tasker? Or maybe there's something on xda that I can download for it to work? I am rooted with a Note 3.
Also, if there are any other revolutionary new lockscreen's out there, let me know! I'm not into the whole typing a password to unlock because everyone sees the password anyway. Plus it's tedious. Any ideas?
Hi,
On my LG Nexus 5, I have setup a delay for the lockscreen to 2 minutes after the phone is not in use. This is also true for when I turn off the screen with the power button (the phone will only lock 2 minutes later). I love this feature as I don't have to input my password too often when, for example, I turn the screen off and realize I forgot to check something. I just press the power button again and the phone is unlocked (if done within 2 minutes).
My questions is how can I lock my phone immediately without changing the 2-minute setting? In some cases, I would like the phone to lock immediately. Does anyone know how to do this without installing some new app on my phone? And if this is not possible, can you recommend an app that would allow me to lock my phone right away (for example when I tap an icon or something)?
Thanks!
Hello there !
A friend of my wife broke the screen of her S9+ and asked me if I can extract the photos.
The phone does work fine, but the screen and the digitizer are dead.
I'm trying to use the MHL capability (usb c to hdmi + USB to connect a keyboard or mouse) to get access to the phone, but I'm stuck to unlock the screen. I was told that's a pattern lock (I know the pattern) but I can't display it on the external screen, and I can only draw it using a mouse on a black screen... Almost impossible !
Is there a way to bypass the pattern lock to get the pin code, or something to draw the pattern, or a way to show the lock screen on an external screen ? I tested on my own OnePlus 9 Pro, it doesn't display the lock screen neither.
I didn't try recovery, and adb looks disabled...
Thanks for ideas
Thats strange because when I use my (official) DeX dock, I can see my lock screen on the second display and use a keyboard or mouse to unlock a pattern, pin or password. I'm also confused because you say its not displaying on the second screen so how do you know your on the lock screen? Unfortunately, adb won't work until you unlock the phone as you will need to enable developer options and also accept the "fingerprint" before adb connects. Recovery is useless to you if you intend on recovering photos and the whole point of a lock screen is not to be bypassed. Obviously, there are ways because law enforcement can do it but your unlikely to have the equipment or exploits or skills to go down that route.
Thanks for the feedback !
In fact, the Galaxy acts just like my own phone on th external screen : I have a black screen with the date/clock moving around and a padlock. When I test on my phone (that's a biometric finger), I just have to hit the spacebar, it turns my phone screen on (the external screen keeps the same black display), and from my external keyboard, I can type my password, I hit enter, and unlocked.
Here, I am trying the same (I have a password code) but no luck, I'm just stuck on the lock screen. Pretty difficult as I can't monitor what's happening on the Galaxy's screen while I'm trying this. It does react correctly when I hit a key (it does wake up the Galaxy).
As expected, the MHL is not supported in firmware mode (I have lots of troubles going to recovery, I think the volume button was a bit shot too) so I can't see on the screen what I do in it...
That's very frustating as I'm stuck for this pattern.
Is it possible to get a screenshot of the S9+ lock screen, or to see what happens at fresh boot when using a keyboard ? The idea is to make sure I can access the password code screen, or if I can navigate to it with the arrows or a key... If I can access the password screen, I think it will do it (If the password is correct of course...)
Thanks
Use samsung find my device to erase your lockscreen password/pattern. Dex will then automatically launch upon connecting usb c to HDMI adapter depending on your settings. I had done this once before. Worked flawlessly. I eventually replaced the screen though.
Thanks, I'll try this but I don't know if it's enabled. I noted this method, but I was a bit scared to delete the content, as the goal is just to recover her photos. I haven't done anything else on it so far, and I'd like not to change the screen as the part is very expensive and the replacement looks... Erm... crappy ?
Back ! No luck, still waiting to know if there's a Samsung account enabled. I tried again today, no luck. But it looks I'm not passing the "lock" screen (the one with the wallpaper and the date/time). The spacebar may not unlock the device ? I've been trying with a mouse, but I think I'm stuck on that screen and I can't even access the pattern screen.
Maybe trying to find an official Dex dock. Many Chinese version of "usb c to hdmi + USB" won't work well.