Powerbank with quick charge 3.0 won't work? - Huawei P10 Accessories

Anyone use a quick charge power bank to charge P10 before? I tried to use the PINENG power bank, it says support QC 3.0 but when I use it to charge my p10, the speed is same as normal non-QC power bank output.
I even use the original cable where my phone shows super charging when I use the cable with the original charger.
Any advice on this?

kevinspencer said:
Anyone use a quick charge power bank to charge P10 before? I tried to use the PINENG power bank, it says support QC 3.0 but when I use it to charge my p10, the speed is same as normal non-QC power bank output.
I even use the original cable where my phone shows super charging when I use the cable with the original charger.
Any advice on this?
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P10 is not QC 3.0, they use another system called supercharger. I think.

kevinspencer said:
Anyone use a quick charge power bank to charge P10 before? I tried to use the PINENG power bank, it says support QC 3.0 but when I use it to charge my p10, the speed is same as normal non-QC power bank output.
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kms108 said:
P10 is not QC 3.0, they use another system called supercharger. I think.
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This is basically correct. The P10/P10+ (& all the P9/Mate9 etc variants before it) do not use Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology (QC2.0/QC3.0 etc). They use Huawei's own "FCP Fast Charging" technology in 2 variations... Fast (9V2A) and Super (4.5V5A) charging.
Certainly for mains wall chargers, you can only use Huawei's own branded chargers at the moment (the Super charger one that comes with the P10 or Fast charger ones available from various places online)
For portable batteries (Power Banks), until quite recently, only the Huawei/Honor 10000mAh Power Bank would Fast charge the P9/P10 etc ( https://www.vmall.eu/uk/huawei-10000mah-quick-charge-power-bank-black-ap08q-299470/) , however it appears that the Tronsmart Presto 10000mAh Power Bank ( http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank ) will now also Fast charge as well. There are no Super charging Power Banks yet available.
The only Fast/Super car charger currently available is again Huawei's own... http://consumer.huawei.com/ae-en/mobile-phones/mate9/html/Accessory.htm
If you use a Qualcomm charger/Power Bank you'll only get, at most, a 5V2A charging rate, considerably slower than Fast or Super rates although certainly not that slow.

I hate using fast chargers for built in battery, batteries degrade faster, I am using my old samsung note 2 adapter with a good quality china cable with a type C adapter, although not fast charging, the charging rate is consider faster than most phones I used.

kms108 said:
I hate using fast chargers for built in battery, batteries degrade faster, I am using my old samsung note 2 adapter with a good quality china cable with a type C adapter, although not fast charging, the charging rate is consider faster than most phones I used.
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Old thread, but hey.
I used my Note 4 with fast charging for 2+ years now.
Battery barely degraded.
(I bought a new battery from Samsung, and well, I realized that battery life indeed was horrible since forever on this device.)
Thing is, batteries die after certain recharges and time. No matter how slow you charge your new S8+ for example, it will need a battery replacement by Samsung after 2-3 years.
Fast charge is also only used (any brand) if the battery can take it.

I have original huawei powerbank 10000mAh. I charge my P10 with original usb cable. P10 show "quick charge". When i use non original usb cable then show "charging normal".

YakovSych said:
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Try reading through the thread.

Is there something on the market already with Super Charge capabilities?

read through the thread.

TracZ said:
Is there something on the market already with Super Charge capabilities?
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kms108 said:
read through the thread.
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Actually, there is now a Supercharge Power Bank which has only recently been released... the 10000mAh AP09S... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...pe-C-Cables-for-Huawei-Smart/32828182598.html
And for those wanting a bit more capacity, also relatively new is the 20000mAh AP20Q, but this is only Fast Charging, not Super... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...i-Portable-Charger-AP20Q-for/32826275887.html
Not tried either of them and they're not cheap, but if they're anything like the quality of my 10000mAh AP08Q then they'll be worth it.

AP20Q
colthekid said:
Actually, there is now a Supercharge Power Bank which has only recently been released... the 10000mAh AP09S... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...pe-C-Cables-for-Huawei-Smart/32828182598.html
And for those wanting a bit more capacity, also relatively new is the 20000mAh AP20Q, but this is only Fast Charging, not Super... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...i-Portable-Charger-AP20Q-for/32826275887.html
Not tried either of them and they're not cheap, but if they're anything like the quality of my 10000mAh AP08Q then they'll be worth it.
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I have the AP20Q and it's certainly worth it. Charges my P10+ from nothing to full in about an hour, and gives me about 40% after 15 mins. . its a tad heavy at 374g, but 100% a life saver! BTW... Added bonus, it comes with a small thin 30cm USBA => C charging cable that also supports fastcharge on mmy P10

Hi guys.
Which is it better for p10?
1. LDNIO C701Q
2. LDNIO C304Q

daranian said:
Hi guys.
Which is it better for p10?
1. LDNIO C701Q
2. LDNIO C304Q
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Neither to be honest, they're Qualcomm quick chargers, you'll only get standard 5V2A charging out of them not fast (9V2A) or super (5V4.5A) charging.

colthekid said:
Neither to be honest, they're Qualcomm quick chargers, you'll only get standard 5V2A charging out of them not fast (9V2A) or super (5V4.5A) charging.
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Thanks
Thought i can not supercharging my p10 with neither chargers!
Which model you advise?
Excuse me for my poor English ?

daranian said:
Thanks
Thought i can not supercharging my p10 with neither chargers!
Which model you advise?
Excuse me for my poor English
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The only car charger which will Super charge the P10 is the Huawei AP38.
Don't know what country you're in, but this is the link for Amazon UK https://www.amazon.co.uk/Huawei-Super-Charge-Charger-Cable-Black/dp/B06XQTYRC4
also available on other sites... Aliexpress for example... https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...A-1M-5A-Type-C-Quick/1239378_32799838750.html
or search google for Huawei AP38 for sites near you.
Your english is fine! :good:

Blitzwolf BW-S9 mains charger supports FCP.

Sounds like chargers with one of these tech might be able to fast charge the Huawei (Power IQ / Ai Power / Smart Technology / VoltiQ / iSmart 2.0) at 9V 2A.
For instance i have the Aukey QC 3.0 car charger that seems to have AI power and it fast charges by Honor V 10.
https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Charger-Charge-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B01KZHKF4I
I have a QC 3 wall charger from Aukey and a Easy ACC power bank also with QC3.0 but neither of these fast charge my phone.

I bought the Huawei AP08Q. Feels like great build quality.
I have a P10 and when charging my P10 with my AP08Q I don't get the "green light" that is supposed to show up if I quick charge.
How do I know if it's fast charging my P10 or not? Any way to check my phone to see that?

alexeliasson said:
I bought the Huawei AP08Q. Feels like great build quality.
I have a P10 and when charging my P10 with my AP08Q I don't get the "green light" that is supposed to show up if I quick charge.
How do I know if it's fast charging my P10 or not? Any way to check my phone to see that?
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2 lightning bolts next to or inside the battery icon.

Xiaomi 2C 20000 FCP works
I confirm that Xiaomi 2C 20000mah power bank supports FCP as stated in it's specs. Works with my Huawei Mate 9 in fast charge mode.
You can't go wrong with it with it's price of 25$ and weight of 350g.

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[Q] Fast Charger, compatible and without risk ?

Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
WolwX said:
Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
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for few days i went to jarir book store on KSA . I found Charger good price also 2 USB 5 volt 2.4 Amber ... compatiable with mate 7 and faster from orignal ...
just to know more fasting to charge wil damge your batter of mate 7 quickly .also orignal 2 A will damge
for me I charging with Iphone charge 1A good for batter and Stander and low risk to Device
If you want proper charging, then always use the accessories coming with that product. It is tested for sure and good. Other than that, you can use any charger delivering the same charge. The original charger is 5 volt, 2 Ampere. Don't use anything above 2 amperes as it may damage the device. Below that will charge it slowly.
BTW, why you don't want to use the original charger?
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I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
Is it safe for battery life of Mate 7?
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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djmaxi said:
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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Can you test it with ampere (free in gplay) i don't think it will charge over 1800mA so that it acts like a normal 2a charger
Fast charging
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
Hi,
PoopDonkey said:
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
blackinfinity said:
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
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Why don't you buy a powerbank? I can advice you the xiaomi 16000mah. That one charges fast and you can be mobile.
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps. Batteries will automatically lose cells from charge cycles and by the time you feel the effects of the battery going bad, you would have already moved on to the next device for the next person to worry about. And saying to use the Stock Charger isn't really good enough as the Stock charger doesn't serve as a Car charger also. If you want to charge your phone quick, and you already have a 2 Amp charger, Check your microUSB cable. Don't use junk cables, buy quality or use the cable you received with the device. You get what you pay for. Fast Charging won't work as the Charger has a chip inside that communicates with the Phone and Device. Also, when buying a charger, don't just randomly buy a charger online, Make sure its UL Tested. Even if it says UL tested, there should be a test number on that UL Label, take it a step further and google it and make sure it matches the charger specs and passes as knockoff chargers are notorious for copying other chargers Regulatory icons to make it seem authentic. You don't want to buy a junk charger that ends up burning your house down or gives you a very bad 120 Volt shock through the microUSB cable that would also kill and fry your phone.
treem said:
I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
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1.6A is nothing.. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours
one friend conected his phone to a hi suite, he went to repair sistem or something like that, and it pop out an option of QUICK CHARGE... even he doesent know how that hapends, now his phone charges faster. he is on b331 rom
cyvr1 said:
Hi,
that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
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so much misinformation
this post is the only one who gets it right.
Kalemucu said:
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
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You have not read my earlier post or you did not understand it. Changing the charger on the Mate 7 will have NO effect (zero, nada) on the time required to charge your phone except the charger delivers less then appr. 1.6A. Then it would take longer and evetually kill the charger. The Mate 7 uses a Kirin chip which has no fastcharge implemented. Samsung uses Qualcomm Chips with implemented fastcharge technology. The charger (in fact a power supply) and the phone/CPU/charge controller need to communicate with each other, otherwise fastcharge will not be activated (the reason fastcharge with charge-only cables does not work because they lack the required data cables for communication).
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps.
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Wrong. Correct would be "I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v." The amps of the charger don't matter at all -> amps are PULLED by the phone not pushed to the phone. You could use a charger with 100 or 1000 amps and it would not hurt your phone a bit as long as it is only charged with 5 Volts.
More amps (>1.6A) on the charger do not improve the time for charging one second.
1.6A is nothing. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours.
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Yes, and that won't change one bit even if you use the best and most expensive charger and a 1000$ cable. The Mate 7 is limited by its hardware (built in charge controller) and pulls max 1.6A. End of story.
As long as you don't understand how charging works you will spend 100's of bucks for cables and chargers to no avail.
The only reason, why charging with some charges is quicker than with others is that those chargers actually deliver the amps they are supposed to deliver. There are a lot of cheap/bad chargers out there which are labelled with 5V/2A but only deliver a fraction of the amps. You can identify those chargers easily because they get extremly hot. I use a 2A charger from Aukey which gets only lukeworm.

Nexus 6 Quick Charger suggestion

Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
yasirrfc said:
Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
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Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
NLBeev said:
Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
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Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
yasirrfc said:
Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
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Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
yasirrfc said:
...wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc.
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I prefer wireless charging for my N4 and N6.
I am using cheap QI-chargers on several places. The QI-pads can be used with almost any USB charger. Of course wireless charging is slow.
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
yasirrfc said:
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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As long as it is Certified by qualcomm you should be fine.
Check this and if its mentioned there you can buy it:
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
blanco2701 said:
Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
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I recommend the aukey as well, I used it for my moto x 2nd gen and now my Nexus 6.
I got a Aukey one, and it's really great
In my experience and from others Anker makes good products might want to check into them. And a good charging cable is just as important.
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I have an Aukey and a Tronsmart. Both work well. Strangely enough, the quality of your USB cable also appears to play a legitimate role in whether Quick Charge2.0 is consistently recognized and used. In other words, high quality charger AND high quality cable is recommended!
just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
yasirrfc said:
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
iluvatrix said:
just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
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Not at all... the phone is made to be compatible with QC. You can even use the QC charger with a phone that doesn't support it, what will happen is that the charger won't activate the QC and just charge at normal speed.
NLBeev said:
Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
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As long as it is Qualcomm 2.0 Certified it is supposed to work. Motorola's "turbo charge" is just a rebranded Qualcomm 2.0 Quick Charge.
I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
ROIDjoy said:
I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
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My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
chapelfreak said:
My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
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Thanks for your reply then it must be the piece that I have used had some problem
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I use this one and it works perfectly for me. It has an LED that changes color depending on whether it is in normal charging or fast charging mode. Unfortunately, I don't think it is on your list.
Fred
I am getting a kind of a weird experience this end. I use my Huawei quick charger of the mate 8, and it is only recognized by the Motorola Nexus 6 as a fast charger after I reboot the mobile then it starts charging at 9.15 V and 1.36 Amps. it does fast charge at this volt and amps at highs of 2240 mAps on Ampere application !!
I could not figure out another way to get the charger to recognize the Nexus 6 as a fast charging phone except by rebooting, and still working on it. in the meantime I have ordered a Choetech QC 3.0 and waiting for arrival. my question does this happen on your chargers or does it connect directly to 9V when connected to chargers like Aukey, Tronsmart, Anker etc. ??
Guys, is it normal that the phone get heated like an iron box when charging ? ( Well I noted that this happens only if my battery is below 50-60% ) Using Stock charger. Same happens (heating, but temperature is lower than before) even when I use One+ charger.

SuperCharge chargers - will it work with any cable?

After ages I managed to find one place where I can order a SuperCharge original charger for P10 (Huawei HW-050450E00 SuperCharge)
However, the cable is not included. Will I get super charging with any cable?
vicusbass said:
After ages I managed to find one place where I can order a SuperCharge original charger for P10 (Huawei HW-050450E00 SuperCharge)
However, the cable is not included. Will I get super charging with any cable?
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The original cable that came with the phone...Yes
High quality ones (20AWG or better)...Yes (this is what I use)
Cheap nasty ones off ebay....possibly, but doubtful. The phone may still say "Fast Charging" as the charger will identify itself to the phone as a Super Charger, but the phone won't be able to draw the same power as through a decent cable. And you risk damaging the cable and/or phone.
As in all walks of life, you get what you pay for!
Can you recommend me a cable which should work fine?
colthekid said:
The original cable that came with the phone...Yes
High quality ones (20AWG or better)...Yes (this is what I use)
Cheap nasty ones off ebay....possibly, but doubtful. The phone may still say "Fast Charging" as the charger will identify itself to the phone as a Super Charger, but the phone won't be able to draw the same power as through a decent cable. And you risk damaging the cable and/or phone.
As in all walks of life, you get what you pay for!
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vicusbass said:
Can you recommend me a cable which should work fine?
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I've used cables by Aukey, Anker & Tronsmart. All decent brands and cables, even if they don't mention an AWG figure. Plenty on Amazon. For example, this was the last pack I bought... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01E4Z6OUG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But they do sell them as single cables as well
You get quick charging with these, not super charging. Which is still ok, I know
colthekid said:
I've used cables by Aukey, Anker & Tronsmart. All decent brands and cables, even if they don't mention an AWG figure. Plenty on Amazon. For example, this was the last pack I bought... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01E4Z6OUG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But they do sell them as single cables as well
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vicusbass said:
You get quick charging with these, not super charging. Which is still ok, I know
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Well they certainly Super Charge my p10, both on a mains and car charger. Noticeably faster rate than when using the Fast Charger I got for my P9.
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My apologies, I linked to the wrong cables! For some reason I thought I was on the P9 forum & we were talking about fast charge, not Super Charge!
You are quite correct, the ones I linked to above are Fast Charging at max. Agreed though that this is still quick!
This is the Super Charge cable I bought.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XTBZGP
Thanks for the update, I was buying this, but for some reason they do not deliver to Romania...
colthekid said:
Well they certainly Super Charge my p10, both on a mains and car charger. Noticeably faster rate than when using the Fast Charger I got for my P9.
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My apologies, I linked to the wrong cables! For some reason I thought I was on the P9 forum & we were talking about fast charge, not Super Charge!
You are quite correct, the ones I linked to above are Fast Charging at max. Agreed though that this is still quick!
This is the Super Charge cable I bought.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XTBZGP
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vicusbass said:
Thanks for the update, I was buying this, but for some reason they do not deliver to Romania...
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Very few non "Original" Super Cables around at the mo, but this is one I'm probably going to get as well.... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PZO...-Type-C-USB-C-For-Huawei-P10/32813218430.html
Worth trying for the price I think, only issue with AliExpress is the delivery time!
Already ordered one, should be here by July
colthekid said:
Very few non "Original" Super Cables around at the mo, but this is one I'm probably going to get as well.... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PZO...-Type-C-USB-C-For-Huawei-P10/32813218430.html
Worth trying for the price I think, only issue with AliExpress is the delivery time!
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colthekid said:
Well they certainly Super Charge my p10, both on a mains and car charger. Noticeably faster rate than when using the Fast Charger I got for my P9.
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My apologies, I linked to the wrong cables! For some reason I thought I was on the P9 forum & we were talking about fast charge, not Super Charge!
You are quite correct, the ones I linked to above are Fast Charging at max. Agreed though that this is still quick!
This is the Super Charge cable I bought.... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B071XTBZGP
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Thanks for finding this, I've wasted my time buying 2 different cables that don't work. The OEM cables are just too short.
Huawei Super Charge works using this cable:
https://banggood.com/Orico-AC5-5A-1...ick-Charge-and-Sync-Data-Cable-p-1162313.html
It must be 5A approved.
Anyone knows why the Huawei 5A SuperCharge won't work with an LG G6? I mean I plugged it in, the phone says it's fast charging, but if I start using it while charging the battery level goes down.
vicusbass said:
After ages I managed to find one place where I can order a SuperCharge original charger for P10 (Huawei HW-050450E00 SuperCharge)
However, the cable is not included. Will I get super charging with any cable?
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you need to get a 5A cable to have supercharge, anything below that will be fast charge or charging indication only
P10 supports two faster charging standards, I don't have the numbers in front of me but it can use both 9V with 2A and 5V with higher A than the usual 2. This is undocumented and I found out by accidentally using my old phone charger.

Powerbank - 10k - SuperCharge (FCP)

Hi,
I'm looking for an affordable Powerbank with Supercharge (Huaweis Fast Charge Protocol). Any ideas?
The only one I'm aware of that Supercharges is Huawei's own AP09S 10000mAh Power Bank. (https://consumer.huawei.com/en/accessories/ap09s/) Not cheap, but good quality and worth it in my opinion (I have one). Not widely available though, so google is your friend!
One or two around that Fast Charge though and these would be a bit cheaper and still quite quick to charge the P10, just make sure any fast charging power bank you are considering supports Huawei's Fast Charging Protocol (FCP).
I'm using Pineng 10k slim version. it doesn't supercharge my phone but it's capable of charging at 1.8A which is good enough for me.
Thank you guys!
I'm I reading this wrong or isn't this SuperCharge compatible? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Yoo...ry-5V-9V-12V-USB-Dual-Mobile/32813258983.html
The Mi Powerbank Pro supports Huawei FCP. Make sure you get it direct from Xiaomi or buy from a legitimate reseller and make sure it's the version with the round USB cable, not the flat one. Any with flat cables are the first version that does not support Huawei!
I bought one in China from a Mi store and works perfectly fine with my P20.
alexeliasson said:
Thank you guys!
I'm I reading this wrong or isn't this SuperCharge compatible? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Yoo...ry-5V-9V-12V-USB-Dual-Mobile/32813258983.html
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Fast charging, but not super charging. Looks nice though, very similar in design to Huawei's Fast Charging 10000mAh AP08Q
colthekid said:
Fast charging, but not super charging. Looks nice though, very similar in design to Huawei's Fast Charging 10000mAh AP08Q
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I have this one. Great quality power bank. There is no power banks to support new a bit faster Super Charge. Yet FCP works fine too, P10 supports both Super and Fast chargers.
ylapas said:
There is no power banks to support new a bit faster Super Charge.
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Wrong, as I said in post 2 above, Huawei's own AP09S 10000mAh Power Bank will SuperCharge.
I had in the mind the ones with acceptable price range. And the charging speed difference is not so huge between them.

Does the M5 have Quick Charge or not?

When I say Quick Charge, I mean proper QC technology, not some "quick" or "fast" charging method unique to Huawei only.
The stock charger says [email protected] or [email protected] QC2 and 3 can do [email protected] However when I put the M5 onto my QC3 charger, it only draws [email protected] as tested with a cable with V/A reading.
Charger and cable had been tested to work at proper QC power with my ZTE Axon 7, drawing 18W and also a Moto G4 Turbo Charging.
The strange thing is, if there is some "special" Huawei only technology on the stock charger, it still charges my Axon 7 and G4 with "standard" QC3. Anyone has been successful charging their M5 on a standard QC2/3 charger?
Only does fast charge when the screen is turned off.
there's also a possibility that your volt/amp meter is blocking the fast charge also.
Michaelflat1 said:
Only does fast charge when the screen is turned off.
there's also a possibility that your volt/amp meter is blocking the fast charge also.
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Tried it with screen on or off, and even with the M5 off, still 10W on a non stock QC3 charger.
Cable definitely works for quick charge because I used the same cable on the stock charger and it reads 18W, so it is not blocking anything.
I use this QC3 charger. I get the dual lightning bolt symbol which I think means fast charge.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
Obveron said:
I use this QC3 charger. I get the dual lightning bolt symbol which I think means fast charge.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
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Yes, 2 lighting symbol means QCing. However it does not show on my non stock QC charger. My other QC-able devices does on both that charger and the Huawei stock one, strange.
Huawei's fast charge is not part of the Qualcomm's QC standard. However I have found that QC3 is cross compatible with Huawei M5's fast charge.
My 2 cents.
For what its worth, I use this charger:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
with this cable:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01E716UQA
Not the cheapest available, but quality is top notch.
Obveron said:
Huawei's fast charge is not part of the Qualcomm's QC standard. However I have found that QC3 is cross compatible with Huawei M5's fast charge.
My 2 cents.
For what its worth, I use this charger:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
with this cable:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01E716UQA
Not the cheapest available, but quality is top notch.
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This is what I use: http://amzn.eu/cLL0gg9
Cable shouldn't matter for QC and proven not to matter as I used the same random cable (and also the cable with the V/A meter) on this charger and the stock charger. It QC my M5 and Axon 7 on the stock charger but only QC my phone on the Aukey charger.
I have a USB C charger ordered, will see if that works better with the M5.
Obveron said:
Huawei's fast charge is not part of the Qualcomm's QC standard. However I have found that QC3 is cross compatible with Huawei M5's fast charge.
My 2 cents.
For what its worth, I use this charger:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01GFDSO1M
with this cable:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01E716UQA
Not the cheapest available, but quality is top notch.
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I had since discovered that Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP for fast charge. Some QC chargers have that ability built in, but not all. Time to invest in more chargers I think.
Further update: My charger with USB PD arrived and no, it does not charge the M5 (FCP) nor my Axon 7 (QC3) fast. However the M5 charges off my Tronsmart portable charger with VoltIQ and QC3. I had done a bit of digging around and found (so far) that only Tronsmart make any chargers that can support both standards at the same time from the same port. This is great as it is when I am out and about I will need quick charging most.
Sadly they do not (at the moment) make a charger with, say 2 x QC + VoltIQ ports. It is either 1 x QC + VoltIQ and 4 x normal or 5 x QC + VoltIQ and that one costs a bit too much.
alvinlwh said:
Further update: My charger with USB PD arrived and no, it does not charge the M5 (FCP) nor my Axon 7 (QC3) fast. However the M5 charges off my Tronsmart portable charger with VoltIQ and QC3. I had done a bit of digging around and found (so far) that only Tronsmart make any chargers that can support both standards at the same time from the same port. This is great as it is when I am out and about I will need quick charging most.
Sadly they do not (at the moment) make a charger with, say 2 x QC + VoltIQ ports. It is either 1 x QC + VoltIQ and 4 x normal or 5 x QC + VoltIQ and that one costs a bit too much.
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I read this article and it says BlitzWolf BW-S6 knows the FCP charging and it will work the fast charging on Huawei. I will order one to try it...
almaalma74 said:
I read this article and it says BlitzWolf BW-S6 knows the FCP charging and it will work the fast charging on Huawei. I will order one to try it...
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There are many chargers that can QC and FCP at the same time, BUT very few that have 2 or more ports that can do them all at once (or at least FCP+QC on one and QC on the other), just one port and the other one at normal speed. There is a Tronsmart one with 5 ports but it is quite costly.
What happens if you just plug m5 into Google phone usb-c fast charger? Like for my nexus 6p. Slow charging? How much slower? Really want one USB c charger for all my stuff.
StephenMSmith said:
What happens if you just plug m5 into Google phone usb-c fast charger? Like for my nexus 6p. Slow charging? How much slower? Really want one USB c charger for all my stuff.
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Not sure what the nexus comes with. However I had tried it with QC3 charger and a USB C PD charger and both just slow charges. Only Huawei original charger or SOME chargers with VoltIQ can fast charge the M5.
plugging in my USB tester proves that actually it takes a 9v 2a charge from original power adapter and cable. Whilst screen is on also.
I'm looking at various chargers and cables to make use of quick charge, or at least fast charge. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I need a FCP capable charger, and a 5A cable?
Do you think these will work?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GFE90H8/ref=nav_signin?
https://www.amazon.ca/laddertek-Com...1533821459&sr=1-10&keywords=magnetic+usb-c+5a
Ivanbarker said:
I'm looking at various chargers and cables to make use of quick charge, or at least fast charge. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I need a FCP capable charger, and a 5A cable?
Do you think these will work?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GFE90H8/ref=nav_signin?
https://www.amazon.ca/laddertek-Com...1533821459&sr=1-10&keywords=magnetic+usb-c+5a
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I can confirm that you do not need the original cable for FCP charge. I used a USB 3.0 (blue plug) cable that works with QC3 for FCP and this is confirmed by a USB V/A meter.
I think Huawei has their own standard. Some of my QC 2 chargers work, some don't using the same cable.
Frustrating that I can't use my Google phone usb-c charger for fast charging. How much slower is it using non Huawei fast charger? Any ideas?
StephenMSmith said:
Frustrating that I can't use my Google phone usb-c charger for fast charging. How much slower is it using non Huawei fast charger? Any ideas?
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Huawei FCP is [email protected]=18W or [email protected]=22.5W. Not sure which one our tablet uses, at work cannot check the actual charger. However when plugged into a QC2/3 charger, it charges at [email protected]=10W. Meaning it will be between 80% to 125% more time with a non FCP charger.
Having just picked up my M5 8.4, confirm my PD charger is (apparently) quick charging the device. It says fast charge on the lock screen and I've got the double lightning bolt in the status bar. Score!

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