Hey folks,
I have a chromebook flip c100 and I like to use the chrome web browser on it because chrome has a vertical scrollbar I can use with the mouse and also, when chrome is fullscreen, the url/bookmarks/tabs bar appears when my mouse goes to the top of the screen.
I like the the z4 tablet because its light weight would make it a better pdf reader than my flip ... and it's also waterproof ... but I am wondering :
which web browser do you use on the Z4 tablet ? how would you compare it to chrome on a touch chromebook like the flip c100 ?
Thanks for feedback !
Pierre
One option is to use a remote desktop application (chrome remote desktop, windows remote desktop, ...) to use a PC web browser on a remote PC from the z4 ...
(but this probably implies loosing touch features like pinch to zoom, etc ...)
in my case it looks like I'd better wait for a detachable chromebook (there are at least 2 coming : https://chromeunboxed.com/another-detachable-chromebook-soraka-begins-development/ )
I ve been trying a lot of android browsers on my flip c100 in the last day and so far the one that seems to use the screen estate the most efficiently in my use cases is Opera in phone layout mode.
Opera in phone layout mode is able to display the 25 conversations in my google inbox like the chromeos chrome web browser does (so I don t have to scroll to view all of them)
I ve just received my z4 with its bkb50 keyboard but I didn't find a nice way to get opera in fullscreen mode, so I have asked another question here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/z4-tablet/help/apps-fullscreen-immersive-mode-t3660546
I found that "Free adblock browser" is also good in my use cases on the z4. It seems to be based on chrome/chromium 54 (not new) but this doesn t seem to impact my browsing. It can force user agent to desktop (which you can't do with chrome/chromium except with some hacks : https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811101&page=14 ) and the adblocker seems to work better than the one in opera ...
I tried XBrowser, it's fullscreen immersive experience is perfect on our z4 with keyboard and touchpad in desktop mode BUT it doesn't display enough content (for example it displays only 19 conversations in desktop gmail, whereas apps like chrome can display the 25 conversations I have in a desktop gmail page), that's a real pity and I am contacting the developer ...
as said on https://forum.xda-developers.com/z4-tablet/help/apps-fullscreen-immersive-mode-t3660546 the "Custom Navigation Bar" app https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-custom-navigation-bar-customize-t3590967 works good in immersive mode
also I found out that Opera has improved his adblocker which now seems to be on par with "Free adblock browser" (and Opera has advantages over "Free adblock browser" like data compression, bookmark sync, offline pages, etc ...)
I found out that Opera has improved his adblocker which now seems to be on par with "Free adblock browser" (and Opera has advantages over "Free adblock browser" like data compression, bookmark sync, offline pages, etc ...)
I am trying the kiwi browser now https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-kiwi-browser-chromium-adblock-caf-t3797252
quite a new project but the developper seems to be experienced and the browser seems to be fast (maybe because it has a good adblocker ?)
free adblock browser has been updated to chromium 64 and is better (there was an annoying refresh when you have chosen "desktop mode" : pages were first displayed in mobile mode then in desktop mode .... this "defect" has been fixed)
it also has a fb support community : https://www.facebook.com/groups/186002138519895/
(I like the fact that you can listen to youtube videos in the background with the kiwi browser)
On my Z4 tablet, I typically use the default web browser Google Chrome.
KIWI Browser 77.0.3865.92 ( 18.08.20)
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Could any1 tell me if there is a why to improve the why my xda views web pages, i`ve messed about with the obvious stuff (text size, fit to screen etc) but you still rarely view a page that fits nicely. my friend has a sony-ericsson p800, and even though it has a smaller screen in every way it still manages to do a better job than my xda. thanx for any help.........xda`s still eat p800`s for lunch
The P800 typically uses the Opera web browser - this is designed to re-flow the page for the unusual screen size. A version of Opera does not currently exist for Pocket PCs (visit http://www.opera.com/ for reasons why).
You want to be looking around for third party browsers such as NetFront (Google it!)
Mobile web browsing is always a bit of a struggle. If the browser is too loaded, its too slow. But if the browser is speedy, it normally means it doesn't do enough.
I have 4 browsers on my phone (5 if you count Opera Mini).
Here's how I use each one:
Internet Explorer:
Stock browser, great WAP support. I use PIE (pocket IE) when I need to go to a site I know is designed specifically for mobile phones, or if I need to quickly check something on a website. It's my "Speedy browser" if you will.
I have this set as my default browser for compatibility reasons so that if an application needs to load a page, IE will run and I typically won't have any issues.
Pros: Fast, supported by carrier/manufacturer/microsoft, quality WAP support
Cons: Lack of/poor javascript support, almost purely mobile browser (no desktop-like feel), restricted file-type downloads, weak download support
JB5:
I installed it because everyone says its good, but I never found a real use for it. It's slower than IE, but doesn't do enough in my opinion. Moving on...
Pros/cons left out for lack of testing.
Opera Mobile: (beta verson 8.65 - expiring Oct 1, 2007)
Takes a few extra seconds to load the browser, and browsing the internet is a little slow. However, the sacrificed speed goes to adding a nearly full desktop browser with JavaScript support as well as a download manager (with no file type restriction), multiple window support, and powerful page compression options.
Of all the browsers on my phone, Opera Mobile is definitely my current favorite, but it does have its flaws - speed for one. It's not the slowest (see MiniMo) but its no speedster. It's definitely slower than JB5, and does lock up occasionally (probably simply because its beta). There are bugs, showing that it is still not a finished product, and it does fail at render certain pages on various occasions.
Pros: Rich in feature, Excellent JavaScript support, Download manager without file-type restrictions, pause/resume downloads, nice "desktop-like" browser feel on a mobile browser
Cons: Slow, beta and buggy, expires oct. 1 and is not free, multiple render issues and failure to load images
MiniMo: (Mini Mozilla - version .2)
I was surprised when I installed this one to see that it actually worked on Smartphones. The first time I installed it, I thought the buttons didn't work so I removed it. Then I decided to give it another shot. Now I discovered how it works:
Left softkey - Cycle selection area (Tab-bar, Web Page, Navigation buttons)
-Hold - Main Menu
Right softkey - Cycle click-able objects (page links, individual buttons)
-Hold - Quick menu (Find, FullScreen, Back, Forward, Reload)
Center button - Select highlighted object
Okay, MiniMo is by far the slowest of all the browser at loading. It takes quite a while to load the browser, and the page loads are comparable to Opera Mobile, whereas they are tolerable, but still slow. I believe it does have an easier time accessing the network than Opera Mobile does, but don't have any hard proof of that.
The Navigation of this application is very difficult and take a lot of getting used to, but the browser is definitely the most powerful of all listed here. It can even handle Google Maps.
As for page rendering - it has an option called "SSR", which I assume to be Small-Screen Render", however, it seems that it can't be disabled. The pages still render in full, but do not fit-to-screen and there is no option for such.
Pros: Practically IS a desktop browser, full render-capabilities, nifty font size up and font size down buttons, RSS support (not a feed-reader alternative though)
Cons: Painstakingly slow, beta bugs, no "fit-to-screen" option, difficult menu system and navigation, weak download support (similar to PIE's)
Opera Mini (stable, v3):
The included HTC Midlet Manage is garbage in my opinion. However, it's the best I can get my hands on, so it's what I use. OperaMini is as mobile of a browser as it gets. From what I understand, it used a proxy which compresses the site (including resizes pictures) before transmitting them to your phone. This makes the browser surprisingly fast. It has a nice UI (if only the midlet manager would allow fullscreen) with transitions and runs fairly well. However, it is unable to download files. In the event it is presented with a file to download, it will open the device's default browser (in my IE) and direct it to the file.
Pros: fast, compressed pages, excellent mobile browsing
Cons: Unable to download files, unable to load a selection of sites in decent quality
Opera Mini 4 (beta):
At the time of writing this, the browser crashed and/or freezes far too often to get an idea of how well it works. Does look fairly promising though.
In the end, I'll use IE if I want speed, Opera if I want features or a desktop like feel, and MiniMo if Opera fails to render the page. Opera Mini might come in periodically, maybe if I'm stuck in a GPRS area.
So, what do you guys use and why?
Opera Mobile sometimes crashs and I have to plug out the battery to end this. So i removed it.
By so far, WM isnot support JAVA so perfect(run JAVA in full screen,with network connecting and sound), now i'm using JBlend. It's a changed version,someone change the program so it can show full screen, but it doesn't have network connecting function.
Mozilla is toooooo slow.
So i choice IE and UCWeb(A Chinese program and it's server is also in China,see more at www.ioicn.com.cn).
Hmm, are you talking about Opera Mobile (the actual WM app) or Opera Mini (the java application)?
And thanks for that UCWeb ...I'll take a look at it....
thelostsoul said:
Hmm, are you talking about Opera Mobile (the actual WM app) or Opera Mini (the java application)?
And thanks for that UCWeb ...I'll take a look at it....
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The WM Opera beta,maybe because it's beta.
dtsme said:
The WM Opera beta,maybe because it's beta.
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Really? Not the Java one?
I haven't really had that much of a problem with it freezing or crashing on me and use it a lot.
Also see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323651
Just saw it from opera. Administrator pls delete if someone already post it. (i searched and it is no)
More features
Opera Turbo
Opera's servers compress Web pages up to 70%, greatly reducing the cost of browsing.
Touchscreen & keypad
The user interface has been optimized for both touchscreen and keypad-style mobile phones.
Typing less, browsing more
Save time with Web address auto-completion, password manager and inline editing.
Web standards
Opera 10 is based on the latest Opera browser engine so your favorite Web sites work as they do on a your computer.
Rich Web content
Browse Web applications sites like Facebook and Gmail, and enjoy the rich interaction.
Opera Dragonfly
Connect your mobile phone to your PC and debug Web applications remotely. Read more here.
Adaptive zoom
In just a few clicks easily pan and zoom into your desired content.
Privacy
Be in control of your privacy. Manage your passwords, history, cookies, and cache.
Saving pages and images
Save Web pages and images for later offline viewing.
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBUmiDLRcNs
I uploaded to sendspace
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ucqzd1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBUmiDLRcNs
the link above doesn't work.
I'm very disapointed... Check out how it formats the pages, looks like crap compared to 9.5... I've tried many sites and they all look so much better in 9.5. I was really hoping they would have fixed this since the 9.7 beta...
The UI feels nothing new since I've been using Opera Mini 5 since it was released... This looks very much the same...
still no flash support.
support QVGA?
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still no flash support.
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I think we have to wait for adobe to release the full flash 10.1 for mobiles...
works well in elfin thanks
Doesn´t work on my Touch HD. It starts, but then it stopps saying on the top bar Opera Mobile 10 beta and i can´t press any button and no page is coming up. Thought it would make some autoconfiguration for the first time, but even after 5 minutes nothing happens. Ok it´s stil beta, but shouldn´t it at least start?
It's work fine on my hd!
At the first time you must start it from start menu, so it complete the setup process with the aknowledgement, after you can use from internet tab!
Someone use landscape mode, i didn't find it...
Bookmarks ?
Hello,
how can i import older Bookmark in Opera 10 ?
Rename the opera6.adr in anyone else or something?
Greetz
Hat
Sorry for my bad english...
Damn no flash support still up till now
Oh I thought they have flash support this time. but otherwise they have done a good job.
Am I the only one who thinks the official 9.7 beta was better???
It used the accelerometer on my Diamond and had really cool animation effects when tilting the device into landscape and other stuff....
Is there a way to enable accelerometer in Opera 10???
Also is this version not opengl accelerated like 9.7 was, besides the new "improved" UI I think this version is a step back from 9.7.
I don`t know some peoples already say about the new Opera 10 its nothing more than all other versions but i don`t think so.
1st when i install on my HD this beta i saw its much more faster than the 9.7 or 9.5 Also the view of the pages is much more better and clear and all the menus of the opera are just fast and awsome.
On the same time i just test for how long will load a page.
For example i choice a random page and i use Opera 9.5 then use Opera 10 for the same page in the same internet connection and i can say that this 10 BETA is minimum 3 times faster than the old Opera.
The Only bad things is that still not have a full Flash support but soon this will be fixed and then we will have a awsome fast beauty Browser for our devices
Maybe depends from ROM`s or....
If this matter im with NRG ROM from the signature.
I really don't like the single touch zooming, how annoying is that everytime I click a link it zoomes in and I have to zoom out again...
don't know if this is a good development, it is defenately quick, but it lacks in quite a few things.
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Also the view of the pages is much more better and clear and all the menus of the opera are just fast and awsome.
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Compare it to Opera mobile 9.5 and you will see that 9.5 shows the pages exactly as they look on the PC in overview mode... Opera 10 makes the sites look bad since it wraps the columns in overview before you've zoomed in. I can't stand using this browser until they've fixed this issue.
The turbo mode on 10 is a lot slower than the turbo mode in opera mini 5 beta. Very disappointed, as most times I don't care for perfect rendering...just want to be able to read what I want to read quickly.
I'll continue to use mini as my main browser, as it also uses a lot less memory. 10 is nice if I need to do some "real" web browsing though.
Is anyone else missing Opera link, it was great for Mini, but still not on 9.5-9.7-10, saw somewhere that it was not included on 9.7 as it was a beta, but if all they release is beta's then its never gonna happen (
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Any way, how to set Zoom more then 200%? Google reader text quite small on my Diamond.
Hi, Where does opera 10 install itself. I would really like to try it out but i do not want it to touch any of my opera 9.5 files in any way.
the previous android phones i'd been using on t-mobile all provided real, desktop/laptop-like web browsing experiences on the phone. not the constrained and formatted for mobile web http://[B]m[/B].espn.com type browsing. so i was a little disappointed when i activated my optimus v on virgin for the first time today and started browsing to notice that the mobile web always loads websites in the constrained format.
is this a limitation of the handset? is there a setting in the mobile browser that you can perhaps change to view it in real html? or is it a limitation of the network even (virgin/sprint)?
Every serious webpage has somewhere at the end of page an optiom to change to desktop version. For example when you go on Google it gives you desktop/html onl/mobile options.
By defult the site is responsible to decide which version to bring you. It does that by reading you device type, which saiz android.
For example facebook forwards you to touch.facebook.com on smarthphone and m.facebook.com for featurephones.
Any yes browser has a setting to "fool" site what you are using. You can chance user agent in setting all browsers can do this, the options are android/iphone/desktop.....
But i leave this to android, if you chance to desktop you will see desktop facebook, which is much worse than touch version. It is easier to just find at the bottom the link to change to desktop version for sites that think android should be viewing mobile optimized, sily them.
Change your browser's user agent to Desktop or something like that. Skyfire, Dolphin HD, etc lets you do that easily.
For the default browser, check this link.
The main idea going for Remix OS as an alternative OS to windows is expecting some similar usage, one such expectation is Flash support. We all know Chrome does not support - I heard of Puffin browser for this task and widely being talked around in various blogs.
When I open Puffin browser - I only see the 'connecting' for a few minutes before it lets me type in the address bar, however after the connecting process - it crashes giving the usual options to 'reporting to the app developer'. Just wanted a confirmation from others to make sure the problem is only with me and my hardware.
Did anyone try on other supported devices or mini PCs like MXpro and Tronsmart or other supported laptops etc.,
Secondly, all these browsers Puffin browser, dolphin browser or Firefox struggled to load pages? When I tried to load my daughter's school website that has a lot of flash based content (McGraw Hill) - it never loaded any of these pages. Also when I opened a book (which is flash based) on chrome I can't see any of of the controls to flip through the book but at least I know flash is not supported by chrome.