I ran a short survey on Twitter asking people what old flagship/affordable last-gen phone would they get for a balance of true all-day battery, water-resistance, a great (not just good) camera & above average performance.
My choices were Moto G4, Xperia Z3 & something else. People chose the Z3.
Would u guys agree despite being a few years old, noisy photos when zoomed in and guaranteed no Nougat update?
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I ran a short survey on Twitter asking people what old flagship/affordable last-gen phone would they get for a balance of true all-day battery, water-resistance, a great (not just good) camera & above average performance.
My choices were Moto G4, Xperia Z3 & something else. People chose the Z3.
Would u guys agree despite being a few years old, noisy photos when zoomed in and guaranteed no Nougat update?
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I came from Nexus 6 which was $700 when it first came out (smashed its screen) and I'd say the 4g of RAM helps the Moto G4 Plus ($150 used) over the Nexus 6. Its smaller size is also more manageable and less likely to drop to smash screen. It has Nougat 7.0 now for stock and 7.1.2 for custom roms (Lineage, AOSP, and others based on Lineage and AOSP roms). The unlockable bootloader on both phones are important if custom roms, root, and TWRP recovery is your thing. I stayed away from Samsung for their always LOCKED bootloader which limits customizations.
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I came from Nexus 6
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I had a Nexus 6 but recently sold it. I have considered getting a Moto G4 but I have some reservations about doing so mainly because of hearing stories about the phone overheating with that 617 processor(known for overheating issues), and no removable battery (which probably contributes to the overheating issue). I would also prefer two front facing speakers like the Nexus 6 has but it's not a deal breaker 'cause they just don't make too many phones with dual front facing speakers.
Anyway, how do you like the Moto G4? How is the quality of the single speaker? Motorola phones usually have good speaker quality. I hope they didn't disappoint with the Moto G4 because I listen to a lot of music on my phones (usually without headphones).
Are you on the 7.0 Nougat update and if so do you notice any performance and camera improvements?
Just don't see a lot out there that grabs my attention and being as though I'm on Verizon my options are limited so I am considering the Moto G4.
Thanks
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I had a Nexus 6 but recently sold it. I have considered getting a Moto G4 but I have some reservations about doing so mainly because of hearing stories about the phone overheating with that 617 processor(known for overheating issues), and no removable battery (which probably contributes to the overheating issue). I would also prefer two front facing speakers like the Nexus 6 has but it's not a deal breaker 'cause they just don't make too many phones with dual front facing speakers.
Anyway, how do you like the Moto G4? How is the quality of the single speaker? Motorola phones usually have good speaker quality. I hope they didn't disappoint with the Moto G4 because I listen to a lot of music on my phones (usually without headphones).
Are you on the 7.0 Nougat update and if so do you notice any performance and camera improvements?
Just don't see a lot out there that grabs my attention and being as though I'm on Verizon my options are limited so I am considering the Moto G4.
Thanks
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I like it but it's nothing beat Nexus 6 for custom rom flashing and development. You have to be careful with Athene (Moto G4/G4 Plus) or you can hard brick it completely without any chance of recovery. Upside is at 5.5", G4's screen is less likely to crack from drops compared to Nexus 6's 6" screen. Battery life is about the same (both 3000 mAH). No wireless charging on Athene if that's important to you. Turbo charging is more reliable on Moto G4--consistently 7.5v X 1.5A while Nexus 6 Turbo charging is not as reliable (mostly 5v X 1.5A). Sound is obviously not as good for stereo music as Nexus 6, but good enough for movies in mono sound. Both (G4 Plus and Nexus 6) cost about $150 used and both great phones. Reception wise is same on Verizon. SIM is micro on MOTO G4 vs nano on Nexus 6--I made a DIY adapter out of an old credit card for my nano sim to fit my Micro SIM slot for Athene. MicroSD is nice on Athene--128gb + 64gb on Moto G4 Plus is SWEET. I can hold all my custom roms on the microSD card while the 32gb Nexus 6 had to dump roms constantly to my PC. 4gb of RAM on Moto G4 Plus vs 3gb of RAM on Nexus 6 is not much different speed wise since Nexus 6 processor is more powerful than Moto G4's but the extra ram made up for that. 2gb of RAM on the plain Moto G4 will be slower than 3g Nexus 6. Nougat is better but worse on battery than Marshmallow. Camera did not change in Nougat.
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I had a Nexus 6 but recently sold it. I have considered getting a Moto G4 but I have some reservations about doing so mainly because of hearing stories about the phone overheating with that 617 processor(known for overheating issues), and no removable battery (which probably contributes to the overheating issue). I would also prefer two front facing speakers like the Nexus 6 has but it's not a deal breaker 'cause they just don't make too many phones with dual front facing speakers.
Anyway, how do you like the Moto G4? How is the quality of the single speaker? Motorola phones usually have good speaker quality. I hope they didn't disappoint with the Moto G4 because I listen to a lot of music on my phones (usually without headphones).
Are you on the 7.0 Nougat update and if so do you notice any performance and camera improvements?
Just don't see a lot out there that grabs my attention and being as though I'm on Verizon my options are limited so I am considering the Moto G4.
Thanks
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The speakers I must say are better than the Xperia Z5 and XZ I had in the past. They are front-firing so sound will be directed in your face so that not an issue. It could be louder but you can't have everything you know. The camera I would say is more natural but can be washed out or overexposed at certain conditions. But is better IMO than my old Galaxy A5 2016, an iPhone SE, Huawei P8 Lite, Wileyfox Swift and the older Moto G.
But the one thing I started to hate about the phone is the lack of compass. Using Google Maps for walking navigation (here in the UK and travelling sometimes) I cannot even calibrate G-Maps so loading up the app takes a tad slow and may sometime freezes up. I may have above average 4G signal all the time it may be an issue but it IS starting to be an issue especially due to my work. It is currently on Nougat 7.0 with the March 2017 security update. This is also another pet peeve...slowness of updates. And I have heard the phone may not even see Nougat 7.1.1. So now I have started to hunt for my next phone.
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I like it but it's nothing beat Nexus 6 for custom rom flashing and development. You have to be careful with Athene (Moto G4/G4 Plus) or you can hard brick it completely without any chance of recovery. Upside is at 5.5", G4's screen is less likely to crack from drops compared to Nexus 6's 6" screen. Battery life is about the same (both 3000 mAH). No wireless charging on Athene if that's important to you. Turbo charging is more reliable on Moto G4--consistently 7.5v X 1.5A while Nexus 6 Turbo charging is not as reliable (mostly 5v X 1.5A). Sound is obviously not as good for stereo music as Nexus 6, but good enough for movies in mono sound. Both (G4 Plus and Nexus 6) cost about $150 used and both great phones. Reception wise is same on Verizon. SIM is micro on MOTO G4 vs nano on Nexus 6--I made a DIY adapter out of an old credit card for my nano sim to fit my Micro SIM slot for Athene. MicroSD is nice on Athene--128gb + 64gb on Moto G4 Plus is SWEET. I can hold all my custom roms on the microSD card while the 32gb Nexus 6 had to dump roms constantly to my PC. 4gb of RAM on Moto G4 Plus vs 3gb of RAM on Nexus 6 is not much different speed wise since Nexus 6 processor is more powerful than Moto G4's but the extra ram made up for that. 2gb of RAM on the plain Moto G4 will be slower than 3g Nexus 6. Nougat is better but worse on battery than Marshmallow. Camera did not change in Nougat.
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I hoping (against hope) that the new upcoming Moto G5S Plus would have the same 5.5" screen, USB Type-C with USB 3.0 speeds, Louder speakers, 3GB-4GB RAM as standard, some form of IP-rating and Nougat 7.1.1 the very least. If not I am just going to find my new phone in somewhere. I am studying on old flagships like the 6S Plus, S7 or even the Galaxy A5 2017 or Nokia 5.
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Currently have a Moto X Dev Edition, bought it back almost a year ago I believe. I like the phone but the camera sucks and the battery could be better. It's super slick and smooth, rarely have any issues with it except for Bluetooth from time to time. But I'm also already noticing a little bit of screen burn-in, and I'm not on my phone 24/7 either. I've always questioned Motorola's AMOLED screen quality, I had an S3 and S4 and those screens were great. Plus I miss having expandable memory so I don't have to stream all of my 20+ GB of music through Google Play Music...
Long story short, it's time to replace the X. I thought about the Turbo but the lack of voice/data usage, the marginally better camera, and reports of poor wifi reception are keeping me away, not to mention the brightness also is subpar. After having the S4 and all it's laggy problems, I said no more Samsung phones, but it seems the S5 is greatly improved. However I've always had my eye on the G3, seems like LG has stepped up their game. My choices right now are the S5, G3, the new Sony whateveritis, and possibly the Note 4 but that's pushing the size limit a little bit.
Thoughts?
I came from and occasionally go back to my Moto X Dev Edition. Everything about this phone is better except the software. The LG software isn't bad, but its not stock + Moto awesomeness. I'm still not sure if I'm going to keep it for that reason. I'm thinking hard about the 64gb Turbo.
I had an S3 and was going for the Turbo but seemed to be a few issues with it that killed it for me. One being zero development, screen warping/distortion and reception. So I switched to T-Mobile and bought the G3 there. It was unlocked out of the box with development going for it. I have always had an OMELED screen but the IPS on this G3 is aweome and never wish to go back. I really don't think the G3 is a bad device at all. I am very happy with it!
I had an S5 for about a week before I switched over to the G3. For the same price I got twice the internal memory, an extra gb of RAM, and a larger/better display. I like the G3 camera better as well, even though the pixel count is lower. Samsung pics were always a little noisy in indoor shots to me, the G3 is super crisp. Battery life is very good, although its much better if you debloat, root, and use a custom rom.
Also - Samsung has been locking their phones down more lately, but not so much with LG, so it looked like the G3 would end up having more development in the long run. Now with stump root and bump twrp we have unlocked bootloaders and are just waiting patiently for some ROMs. ROM choices are limited right now, but bootloader unlock only happened a month or two ago, so that's expected.
So, for me, I'm sticking with the G3 for a while because I think it has a lot of potential to get even better, but it all depends on what you're looking for really. Good luck.
I came from a 2013 moto x to the g3. Everything about the g3 is better, except for software. I'm still very happy though.
No experience with Moto X of any vintage, but came to G3 after S4 and Note3 (still have the S4 as backup phone). Never looked back. Even pre-BUMP, with just root / TiBu Freeze debloat / Nova Launcher = smooth and fast sailing here with outstanding battery management. Good build, great screen.
I would say considering the ability to modify, battery life, and specs,
nexus 6>note 4 dev edition>lg g3>droid maxx dev>droid turbo>moto X dev
Lol funny how I rated my two current phones (maxx and g3) as better than the turbo. But it's true, why get something I'll be unhappy with...
I came from a 2013 MotoX. Like others have said, the only thing you will really miss is the Moto software that worked amazingly. It outclassed the G3 in everyway. Other than that though, the screen, battery, and just about everything else is better. Did I mention the screen is better by the way? It really is amazing.
I upgraded my wife to the G3 from an iPhone. I upgraded my S3 to the Note 4. In all I must say that I was really impressed with the G3. It's a solid performer and the screen is superb. I don't have any experience with the Moto-X... but on paper, it's hard to beat the G3. It was only $99 on a 2 year contract. I wouldn't knock the lack of dev ROM's out there. Lollipop 5.0 is on it's way out now. If I wasn't getting the Note 4, I probably would have picked up the G3 over the S5.
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I upgraded my wife to the G3 from an iPhone. I upgraded my S3 to the Note 4. In all I must say that I was really impressed with the G3. It's a solid performer and the screen is superb. I don't have any experience with the Moto-X... but on paper, it's hard to beat the G3. It was only $99 on a 2 year contract. I wouldn't knock the lack of dev ROM's out there. Lollipop 5.0 is on it's way out now. If I wasn't getting the Note 4, I probably would have picked up the G3 over the S5.
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How do you like the Note 4 over the G3? The N4 is also on my "consideration list".
I love my N4. It's a toss up. I prefer the button configuration and home button on the N4. The buttons on the back of the G3 are a little awkward to get used to. I like the G3 being 5.5" display and still having the size of an S5. The G3 has a nicer looking screen than the N4 to my eyes.
I have a fairly compact case on the N4, but it's tough to get it into the pocket compared to the G3 with its case. They both have their strong considerations. Neither one will disappoint. It would boil down to price and size comfort. I got the $200 Best Buy gift card with the N4 that made the difference. If it wasn't for that deal I would have bought the G3. I was impressed with what LG came out with.
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Currently have a Moto X Dev Edition, bought it back almost a year ago I believe. I like the phone but the camera sucks and the battery could be better. It's super slick and smooth, rarely have any issues with it except for Bluetooth from time to time. But I'm also already noticing a little bit of screen burn-in, and I'm not on my phone 24/7 either. I've always questioned Motorola's AMOLED screen quality, I had an S3 and S4 and those screens were great. Plus I miss having expandable memory so I don't have to stream all of my 20+ GB of music through Google Play Music...
Long story short, it's time to replace the X. I thought about the Turbo but the lack of voice/data usage, the marginally better camera, and reports of poor wifi reception are keeping me away, not to mention the brightness also is subpar. After having the S4 and all it's laggy problems, I said no more Samsung phones, but it seems the S5 is greatly improved. However I've always had my eye on the G3, seems like LG has stepped up their game. My choices right now are the S5, G3, the new Sony whateveritis, and possibly the Note 4 but that's pushing the size limit a little bit.
Thoughts?
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Best buy has some slick prices on the g3 some of them are 99 bucks with a $150 best buy gift card.
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I've never used the Moto X, but from what I have read, it does have some really nice software/features like the driving mode, "OK Google", etc, etc, etc. That being said, I believe that is the only way the X outshines the G3. Hardware wise, the G3 beats the X - bigger and replaceable battery, SD card, better camera, larger screen.
The ONLY thing I don't like about my G3 is the fact that the speaker is on the back. I'd rather have the speaker on the front, but I totally understand and agree with LG on why they put it on the back - to make the bezels as small as possible. In doing so, they got the size of the 5.5" screen size G3 to be the same overall dimensions as other brands 5.2" screen size phones.
I was really intrigued by the always on "OK Google" feature of the X, but I actually bought an Android Wear device (a LG G watch - refurbished for $80) and now I have that same capabilities with the watch, so I don't miss that feature of the X.
So I am wanting to get rid of my pos 6s plus... I was looking at the v10 or the nexus 6p..which do you guys think is best?
Here are a few questions I had on the v10...
How are the cameras ? And how's the front for selfies ?
How is the audio quality ? Is it really that much better then other phones?
If I installed viper4android would the dac be pointless or would it be a super dac basically ?
How's the battery life ?
Is it quick or does it get laggy like the G4? Thanks !!!
. Nexus 6p camera was great until i used a note 5 camera. I liked the note 5 front facing camera until i used the g4 front facing camera which was the best i used on a phone. Sprint don't have the v10 or i would of had it but my guess would be a similar experience as the g4 but bigger and a extra screen .
Get the 6p
The 6P is honestly one of the worst smartphones I've heard in terms of audio quality, while the V10 is the best, so it's a night and day difference in that regard. The V10 also has the better camera from what I've seen (I haven't used the 6P extensively, a friend owns one), but the gap there isn't as big.
I'd get the T-Mobile V10, since it's only variant that allows you to unlock the bootloader so you can throw a debloated ROM on there, which was a must for me
It all depends on what your looking for in a phone.
If you want the best audio play back while plugged into the 3.5'm port, than get the V10 . But if you never use the 3.5 port than you'll never enjoy the awesome audio.
If you want the best camera around than the V10 is the way to go. There's claims that the 6P can hang with the V10, but your still going to get slightly sharper imagines from V10.
When everyone asks about the V10 and audio quality, you first need to ask yourself what you expect to hear as far as difference goes between a DAC and the standard Snapdragon DAC. If you don't know how to answer that question, than you probably aren't looking for the right phone. If you have a pair of headphones that can show you the difference between a track with a noisy floor and not, then you probably should look at the V10. I use a pair of Westone 4r IEM's. Audio quality is about what *you* hear.. *your* opinion, not others! Understand that wanting Viper working in tandem with the DAC is not an example of audio quality. The purpose of the second DAC is to present you with the closest reproduction as possible to the source - without equalization, in this case - Viper.
That being said, using Viper with this phones built in Snapdragon DAC, there's very noticeable loudness over nearly all other phones on the market, but that is not audio quality, that's audio gain. Big difference!
I've got a V10 T-Mo version. I also have a T-Mo LG G4, M9 Dev edition Note 5, S6 and a Moto X Pure 2015. You just need to sit down and weigh the pros and cons of the phones you decide to pick from. Don't accept personal opinion because they will all be biased! I took my $500 headphones into the store and listened to each one. People thought I was crazy! I love and hate things about the V10. The G4 was extremely laggy until I put CM13 on it. I am absolutely blown away by the battery life I get on it now! AND it has the same Snapdragon 808 DAC that everyone raves about in the V10.
V10 has:
1) buggy fingerprint reader when a case is on the phone (a google search will show this - I hate having no case)
2) LCD bleeding on the second screen (found on many blogs - as mine does)
3) poor battery life considering the 3,000 mah battery and idle with just stock apps (my personal experience as well as others)
4) The inability to root and change the LCD density. Doing so causes FC's upon boot and you have to factory reset. This has been an issue for months and will remain until a a dev finds a work around. Seriously, this phone has a larger physical screen but you see less on the screen than any other phone I've listed!
5) GREAT camera, but LAGGY shutter times. It's unfortunate. Camera can keep up with the S6 camera in the right conditions but that's just the thing.. "right conditions" and how long it takes from pocket to snapping that photo.
6) EXCELLENT built in dual audio system. Viper DOES work with the built in DAC - but the ESS chip lowers the gain (can't go as loud) so most all people I've read in blogs say they just use viper on the stock Snapdragon 808 DAC. Googling will show how to enable the DAC on all apps, not just the stock.
7) EXCELLENT build quality, though some don't like the rubber texture of the back
I'm probably the only one here that will tell you out of all those phones they would choose the G4. (See, that was a biased answer.) Previous posters are right in saying if you're looking for the best sound, get a V10 (It edges out the HTC m9 and obliterates the S6) - but make sure you're willing to overlook its downfalls.
The biggest piece of advice I can give anyone is - There's ALWAYS a catch! Make sure if you're willing to live with that devices catch and you're good to go!
Out of the phones I have (again - biased personal opinion)
Best Camera - Note 5
Worst Camera - Moto X Pure
Best Audio Quality - LG V10
Worst Audio Quality - S6
Best Audio Loudness - LG V10
Worst Audio Loudness - Moto X Pure (which is odd because it's the same 808 Snapdragon.)
Best Battery - Note 5 (It's a matter of physics)
Worst Battery - LG V10
Best Build - LG V10 (Sorry, but they give you removable battery and microSD)
Worst Build - Moto X Pure (it's also the cheapest - lies... i'm sorry.. it's actually $399 which is what they are still selling the G4 for)
Best feel in the hand - S6
Worst feel in the hand - LG V10 (C'mon.. the thing is a tank!!!)
Easiest to root and install 3rd party ROM - G4 hands down! It's as easy as any Nexus device I've ever owned
Hardest to root and install 3rd party ROM - HTC M9 - but only because I had to pay $25 to unlock the bootloader with the SunShine app.
Hope my 2 cents helps!
Cheers!!!
I am looking for a new sub 4.8” phone. I had S4 mini once and the size was perfect. I then upgraded to LG G2 and it is frequently inconvenient to carry. Actually, when I think about it, the weight might be more important then than size, so provided the phone is light, I could go a bit larger than 4.8"
The things I MUST have:
- good camera: At least on the S4 level
- very good battery life
- MicroSD card slot, OR at least 50GB internal storage
- Android M: from manufacturer, I need photo quality at the highest possible level so that rules out CM13
- root
Things it would be nice to have, but can live without:
- NFC
- dual sim
- waterproof
Things I do not care for at all:
- gaming: I have been using a smartphone since 10 years now, and not once I played a game on it
- production year: I don’t care if the phone is 2016 or 2013, as long as it fits the bill
Here are the phones I already considered and rejected:
- Xperia Z3c: perfect phone with clown camera
- Xperia Z5c: after 4 hours of research it looks like Sony again made the camera not very good (might reconsider if it turns out the camera is actually good)
- Galaxy S5 mini: I read it is a downgrade form S4 mini (but if it is only about GPU then I might reconsider)
- LG G2 mini: good camera, size and battery, but no M, LTE and 1 GB of ram is a serious tradeoff
- Redmi 3: bad camera
- Mi4c: so-so camera and battery life
- Mi5: size, so-so camera
- Meizu Pro 5: OMG this phone is PERFECT... Except for being a shovel. Such a pity they never completed Pro 5 Mini.
Suggestions and comments will be appreciated.
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I just got the redmi 3. Size is great. Prior to this, I used a oneplus one which was too large, and a first gen moto x, which was perfect size wise. Battery life on the 3 is amazing so far. Camera is good but not great. OS is lollipop with no indication that it'll be upgraded to marshmallow through official channels. If that is a hard requirement, then you should probably look at something else. The Mi5 would give you a better camera, marshmallow, and similar size at a more expensive price point.
If I were you, I'd buy Galaxy S7 or S8 in the end of year. 5" to 5.2" is nothing
you won't find a phone under 5" with very good battery life and all phones with good camera are above 5".
So take Redmi/Pro or Huawei Honor Holly 2 Plus
Why do you want marshmallow? I made the mistake of allowing the upgrade to take place on a 5.1.1 2GB Moto G2015. Google have completely messed up the memory management in their attempts to consolidate the microSD card into main storage. Fortunately I was able to restore it back to 5.1.1 and regain proper control of storage location.
And there is nothing else other than claimed battery life improvement in marshmallow, which isn't necessary on the Redmi 3/3 Pro, since it's excellent anyway... It's the mtk chipsets that have awful battery life, this is Qualcomm.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Xiaomi...ni-Mi-5-with-Snapdragon-820-SoC.167319.0.html
Pray for a good camera?
I had the same problem mean small phone for woman's hands. Redmi 3 is probably the best sub 5" phone you can buy today. The battery life is crazy. With light use you may get 7 ( SEVEN ) days of work.
You may also consider Samsung Galaxy A3(2016) but I do not think is it any better
if u say "camera so-so" for mi5, redmi 3 is not for you.
It makes just sufficient pics, no more.
From my searching for over a week the is no even one smartphone under 5" produced in the world with decent camera.
You want good photos ? Buy DSLR.
There is no possibility that smartphone will ever make photos comparable to quality made by average compact camera. This is the matter of size of the lens. These are physics and optics rules.
First of all, sorry if this thread is in the wrong place, and I know that there have been a few comparisons between the two.
My 2 year contract is ending, and I was more interested about how you think they've aged during these 10-11 months since their release. In my country they are roughly the same price on a 2 year contract (the G5 is about 20-30 Euros cheaper than the S7).
I would like to hear from you about the everyday performance (battery, gaming, lags, heat problems?...basically every aspect). I've read that the cameras of the both phones are pretty much neck and neck, and that they are both excellent.
Which one would you recommend me for the next 2 years?
Thanks
Morphiuss said:
First of all, sorry if this thread is in the wrong place, and I know that there have been a few comparisons between the two.
My 2 year contract is ending, and I was more interested about how you think they've aged during these 10-11 months since their release. In my country they are roughly the same price on a 2 year contract (the G5 is about 20-30 Euros cheaper than the S7).
I would like to hear from you about the everyday performance (battery, gaming, lags, heat problems?...basically every aspect). I've read that the cameras of the both phones are pretty much neck and neck, and that they are both excellent.
Which one would you recommend me for the next 2 years?
Thanks
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G5 by far, The lag of the S7 is insane...
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As he said the G5 has no lag. UI is smooth and I prefer it over TouchWiz. By other hand S7 is beautiful with all those glass and metal. In my country G5 is much cheaper than S7 so it was easy. I would still choose the G5 I prefer the camera, the UI and we are about to get Nougat.
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I love my G5, but I feel the S7 won this round. If you like big screeb, the V20 is the best out there. Great phone! If you want removable battery, IR blaster, wide angle lens and best camera manual mode, go for G5. Go for the S7 for the better build, the better point&shoot camera and the better screen. The G5 camera is better if you know how to use it.. it is more capable. But if you just want a quick point&shoot, the S7 will do a better job. Overall I want to recommend the G5 because I like it a lot, but it has 2 major faults. One is the GPS, there ia a problem with the golden pins that lose contact with the antenna on the back of the phone. Quick and easy fix but atill annoying and should not happen on a flagship. Second is image retention. If you are Rooted, there is a quick and easy fix. If not, you will need Blue Light Filter app in the background. I'm rooted so I don't have this issue. My only issue so far is the GPS. Happened to me after 7 months. Fixed it in 10 minutes but i had to open the phone. For common user, S7 IMO (unless you can handle the V20 size and then of course V20).
Ans yes, UI is better on the G5 and smoother. Also the camera , for me , is much better. I like the better manual controls and the wide angle lens.
Morphiuss said:
First of all, sorry if this thread is in the wrong place, and I know that there have been a few comparisons between the two.
My 2 year contract is ending, and I was more interested about how you think they've aged during these 10-11 months since their release. In my country they are roughly the same price on a 2 year contract (the G5 is about 20-30 Euros cheaper than the S7).
I would like to hear from you about the everyday performance (battery, gaming, lags, heat problems?...basically every aspect). I've read that the cameras of the both phones are pretty much neck and neck, and that they are both excellent.
Which one would you recommend me for the next 2 years?
Thanks
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The only thing I am jealous bout with S7 is the water resistance and design. $20-30 cheaper? You sure? With my phone company huge price difference. I can get the G5 for $300 plus tax. S7 $800 plus tax.
The specs bout the same. LG g5 got a better cam. Just look at comparisons and you be the judge. I might have a biased view. LG G5 gets a lot of hate, but its a great phone.
I am sorry but that's a huge price difference and a bout the same specs. LG g5 has a better Cam, removable battery, sd slot, etc. Makes me pick LG G5 all day. Save yourself money bro get it.
Biggest issues with G5s is GPS and heat issues. GPS seems to not have issues with newer models. Mine was made in september. Check the box before you buy. Three people I know in real life bought new versions and no GPS issues.
That heat issue seems to happen a lot with heavy usage and full brightness up. Lowering the brightness seem to help a lot. It can be annoying at times. And a thick case like outter box seem to help that.
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The only thing I am jealous bout with S7 is the water resistance and design. $20-30 cheaper? You sure? With my phone company huge price difference. I can get the G5 for $300 plus tax. S7 $800 plus tax.
The specs bout the same. LG g5 got a better cam. Just look at comparisons and you be the judge. I might have a biased view. LG G5 gets a lot of hate, but its a great phone.
I am sorry but that's a huge price difference and a bout the same specs. LG g5 has a better Cam, removable battery, sd slot, etc. Makes me pick LG G5 all day. Save yourself money bro get it.
Biggest issues with G5s is GPS and heat issues. GPS seems to not have issues with newer models. Mine was made in september. Check the box before you buy. Three people I know in real life bought new versions and no GPS issues.
That heat issue seems to happen a lot with heavy usage and full brightness up. Lowering the brightness seem to help a lot. It can be annoying at times. And a thick case like outter box seem to help that.
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Yep, the price for just the phone G5 is 650 euros vs the 680 euros for the S7 in my phone company. When buying them on a 2 year contract, the price difference is even smaller (20 smth euros). I don't know how that's possible...
I'm considering the G5, because my G3 still works without any lag, and somehow it's Samsungs' phones custom to start lagging just before a newer version of the phone is released
How's the camera for just point and shoot, because I don't think I'll be making to many pictures using manual control? What's the problem with the GPS? Is it easily solvable or does it require to get a replacement unit? And around how much of screen on time do you get?
Im a phone addict for saying it in some way, i had iphone 6 Plus, Galaxy s6, Galaxy s5, Iphone 5, Iphone 4 after using them all got a LG G4 and the rest named are all sold.. After that i went with the LG G5 and to be perfectly honest, it wins over them all, i dont even gonna try S7 since G5 runs perfectly, no issues, smooth, great battery life, great updates, in my opinion best overall phone atm.. My friend is a Samsung fan and even him said G5 its better overall S7, so go ahead without doubts with the G5..
Saying no LAG seems pushing the truth a bit, here is my view of a user who has been using the S5 901f for a couple of years.
What probably has not helped the G5's cause in my case is that samsung made massive performance improvements on their android 6 touchwiz for the S5.
So I have basically been comparing my 901f to the G5 and also to the S7 edge who my brother in law owns and let me have a go with it. Its the more powerful variant of the S7 here in the uk not the snapdragon 820 version.
Also to consider thanks to a good custom kernel my S5 is well tuned, especially with using the zzmoove governor.
So
In terms of overall performance, I would say sadly my S5 beats my G5, the S7 beats them both.
The G5 is very fast at multitasking, so once stuff is loaded, you can switch between apps very quickly and they keep their loaded state, but for stuff not loaded its for some reason slower than both samsung phones.
Some stuff wont stay cached e.g. better battery stats and sms messages, both visibly LAG on my G5 when the simc ard is inserted, I gave the phone to my brother in law to play with, I didnt mention the performance and he commented the phone was laggy. (this was before I did tuning).
Also performance is not everything, when comparing the phone features, samsung wins hands down. The colour tone can be changed, the unique samsung features are actually useful, 2g only mode can be set, has auto redial, better dialer/contacts app.
Samsung has much bigger dev community on XDA, e.g. unless there is a private hidden forum, there is not one single working custom kernel for the G5, that is juat a big wow.
Amoled vs IPS, amoled is a very clear winner, I think what doesnt help the G5 is that its IPS is a poor IPS, my oneplusone phone is also IPS but has less backlight bleed, and better viewing angles than the G5. Amoled is just the pinnacle of flat screen display technology, even apple I think are moving to amoled for their next phones. I only need to look at my G5 slightly off angle and I have contrast shift. I expect overtime I would get used to it, but if you used to samsung displays I think you in for a shock.
Samsung has water resistance, in practice I am not sure its a huge deal, as the LG phone is still splash proof (e.g. it should be fine in the rain).
All this doesnt mean I think the G5 is a bad phone, there is definite stuff about it which is nice.
Has FM radio
Always on clock
Speaker placement is better at bottom
Camera app is better (in my opinion)
USB-C is very nice
Fast charging is nice (although the S7 has this also, but not my S5)
Less bloat on stock rom than samsung.
Much better memory management, especially it doesnt aggressively kill background apps like samsung does.
Faster storage
I hope my feedback is helpful, and of course what I prefer to have on a phone you may not agree with, in which case what I listed as flaws of the G5 may not be relevant to yourself.
Also worth mentioning samsung S7 has 2 spatial streams for wifi so AC is 866mbit, N is 150mbit on 2.4ghz and 300mbit on 5.ghz
LG is 433mbit for AC, 75mbit for N on 2.4 and 150mbit for N on 5
Here in the UK on EE the S7 has a large price premium over the G5 still, over a 2 year contract its an extra �15 month x 24 which is �360.
Thanks a lot!
Hey All! Looking to get some feedback from the community. I have the Nexus 6p and I have an opportunity to swap it out for a gently used Moto Z. Should I do it, and why?
I've owned the Moto X Pure, and the prior two models of the Moto X, so I'm familiar with Moto's features, which are pretty cool. I just don't know if I'd be making a wise trade. I don't do a whole lot of gaming, but I do use it heavily for work/multitasking. I don't know that I would take full advantage of all the Mods, though. I'm also on Verizon, if that matters.
I'm not unhappy with the Nexus 6p at all, it's a fantastic phone. Just wondering if the Moto Z is worth the change?
Any insight you could provide would be most helpful. Thanks!
I came from the same boat. Current NEXUS 6P thinking about Moto Z. I did the jump. Here's my list of + (pros) and - (cons)
+ I like the design of the Z over the 6P. It just looks/feels a lot nicer.
+ Moto mods are pretty cool. I got the battery one and adore it. The phone is so thin, that having the battery mod on it does not make it really huge.
+ I personally like the 820 over the 810. The phone really does not lag that much or get hot.
+ Reception is a lot better. I notice clearer calls and better data in doors. Then again, I'm on T-Mobile, so I'm not sure what your mileage will be on vzw.
+ Having the microSD card back is nice.
+ My unlocked Moto Z came with two years of full resolution uploads to Google Photo. Not sure about the DROID one.
- I miss the NEXUS perks. Outside of not getting updates pretty quick, you lose a lot of apps. Like, the phone dialer and contacts are from AOSP and not the same as what you get on the NEXUS. So, I lost the ability to have a spam list and search for companies in the dialer. You also don't get the auto VPN on public WiFi.
+/- The camera is OKAY at best. The Moto camera app comes with manual controls, but quality I would say is not as consistent as the 6P. You can side load the Google Camera, which I did so that I could use photo spear. But overall, I'd say this is more of a eh. The flash on the front is pretty cool.
If you have any other questions, let me know.
Thanks a ton, tjk! That's what I was looking for.
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Thanks a ton, tjk! That's what I was looking for.
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So, go for Z... dialer & Contacts are the main "miss" and... you can install them (in Nougat version...) from simple apk you can find on this forum section...
I did the same. Twice actually.
The things that made me switch back from the Moto to the Nexus was:
- Bigger chin on Moto
- Finger print sensor on the front
- Front facing speakers on Nexus
- Nougat
- Camera is pretty janky in low light on the Moto. Not so on the Nexus
I then upgraded from the Nexus to the Pixel which I hated because of the lazy and cheap design so I moved to the Moto predominantly for the look and feel.
I would actually say the Nexus is smoother than the Moto even with the older Snapdragon. But it does get hotter. The Moto is far better from a design perspective too; with a wooden snap-on back it feels great too.
I wasn't that fussed about Moto Mods but I've bought the battery and I still feel it's a bit meh. Hopefully in the future we'll see better implementation. The Incipio car kit looks great for example.
Overall I would take the Moto over the Nexus OR the Pixel. There are lots of secondary bonuses like the Moto Display, Moto Moves and stuff too.
You can't even compare Moto with a Chinese company in terms of anything. The only thing in which 6P beats Moto Z is the software support from Google. Apart from that, the build is solid, camera is good, I've compared the camera with Nexus 5X and it's the same one on 6P and my moto camera was a lot better than the 5X. And of course the speaker is not as good as the Moto X pure's stereo speakers but it's one of the loudest speakers I've ever heard. You should check these videos imo.