Oh Devs !! Please Wake up !! resurrect the beast LG V10 - T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ANY DEV'S HERE ?? PLEASE !!
LG ALREADY SHARED THE OPENSOURCE NOUGAT http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=h901
and i dont know what is going on to happen after i found this https://www.lineageoslog.com/14.1/h901
LOT OF V10 USERS ARE FEELING LONELY SOME ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD
IS A REQUEST BEHALF OF ALL LG V10 USERS​

Hopefully LG did a better job with their code in N....cause from what a feew devs had said about the V10 and a few other LG models....terrible quality code....mot sure if just sloppy, inefficient or what..just crappy.

prc.kailas said:
ANY DEV'S HERE ?? PLEASE !!
LG ALREADY SHARED THE OPENSOURCE NOUGAT http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=h901
and i dont know what is going on to happen after i found this https://www.lineageoslog.com/14.1/h901
LOT OF V10 USERS ARE FEELING LONELY SOME ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD
IS A REQUEST BEHALF OF ALL LG V10 USERS​
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I second that request. The LG V10 is a brilliant, flagship device...marred only by lousy battery life (ez to swap the battery out, though). I was expecting that since LG is porting Nougat to the V10, there would be dev work going on. There was a rooted version of the stock H90120e upgrade (which I have on my h901); but, it seems all development stopped after that. The fact that there were enough V10 owners to force LG into doing the Nougat upgrade should prove that there is a sizable market for a new, unlocked Nougat ROM. If anyone does it, I will be glad to act as a tester.

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I second that request. The LG V10 is a brilliant, flagship device...marred only by lousy battery life (ez to swap the battery out, though). I was expecting that since LG is porting Nougat to the V10, there would be dev work going on. There was a rooted version of the stock H90120e upgrade (which I have on my h901); but, it seems all development stopped after that. The fact that there were enough V10 owners to force LG into doing the Nougat upgrade should prove that there is a sizable market for a new, unlocked Nougat ROM. If anyone does it, I will be glad to act as a tester.
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Battery life..yea...in my experience, it fluctuated allot. For a while, my V10 was getting very good battery life, but the last couple months, battery life is terrible, especially just standby time. Its drops to the mid 60's after just 4 hrs of sitting with screen off and nothing happening. I haven't change anything on it.
I recently switched to my Moto X Pure that is stock 6.0 but rooted and lightly modded with exposed....battery life is freaking amazing. Downgrade in camera(but stereo front facing speakers sound amazing), but I think my taste in Android had changed. Moto is closest to pure Google Android as u can get without getting a Nexus or Pixel, only a little bit of Moto apps and services added on...no UI or heavy customization. The experience is much smoother.
I recently had the chance to actually use a Pixel XL for a few days...and WOW...never used Android device that was so buttery smooth and fast. Makes sense cause with the Pixel, Google controls both hardware and software (like Apple and iphone). Only things that is holding me back is that the Pixel doesn't support AptX, which is important to me (but i read that Android O will soon fix that), and also the hefty price...have to get 128gb version since 32 is too small for me and no micro sd slot. Would cost $1,048 for the Pixel 128Gb with Google 2yr ADH warranty. Also, the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL (6in lcd) may come out end of this year (November?) so looking forward to seeing how they improved upon the already nice product...at the very lest, price on 1st gen Pixel should come down at that point. Rather wait and dump the money on newer model in a few months...
As far as my V10....plan to wipe and re-flash rom...see if that helps restore the things battery life....but rather do that with an updated custom stock rom...but nothing newer than what i already have....so it its waiting for the 7.0 update.

@speedingcheetah
Hi
I have a V10 H901 running Eliminator74's custom debloated V20L Rom and have no problems with battery in standby (overnight it only looses 2 to 3%)
and under normal use during the day I admit battery life is not outstanding but I do manage to get through the day.
Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk

Stransky said:
@speedingcheetah
Hi
I have a V10 H901 running Eliminator74's custom debloated V20L Rom and have no problems with battery in standby (overnight it only looses 2 to 3%)
and under normal use during the day I admit battery life is not outstanding but I do manage to get through the day.
Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
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yea....like i said....mine used to be like that...but recently...the phone hates me. Moto X pure is more than 2x the battery life. Been off charger since yesterday evening...still says 1 day 1hr left. Same normal apps installed and active.

YEAH! We want custom roms, Mods, tweaks, etc! This phone is extremely great!

I cannot promise anything due to work taking up time, life, etc...
But I really want to get xposed working on Nougat, and it doesn't seem terribly difficult with what I saw put up on github recently. That's going to be my first pet project. I haven't messed with this stuff in a few years though, so will have to shake off some rust. If I get it done... it will go up here! lol It's way more for me (I love xposed) then anyone else, but if I get it working why not share with the class!

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I cannot promise anything due to work taking up time, life, etc...
But I really want to get xposed working on Nougat, and it doesn't seem terribly difficult with what I saw put up on github recently. That's going to be my first pet project. I haven't messed with this stuff in a few years though, so will have to shake off some rust. If I get it done... it will go up here! lol It's way more for me (I love xposed) then anyone else, but if I get it working why not share with the class!
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https://www.androidsage.com/2017/07/20/install-xposed-for-nougat-downloads/

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https://www.androidsage.com/2017/07/20/install-xposed-for-nougat-downloads/
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I tried last night. It wouldn't boot. Most likely needs an aosp rom to work.

speedingcheetah said:
yea....like i said....mine used to be like that...but recently...the phone hates me. Moto X pure is more than 2x the battery life. Been off charger since yesterday evening...still says 1 day 1hr left. Same normal apps installed and active.
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I got the same problem, Battery life used to be good and all of a sudden it dropped drastically, Hate to see no updates from LG Tmobile, I think the problem is with the android system itself sucking the battery. New battery didn't help. I tried go launcher and it seems to be better ,, so I doubt the launcher is eating up every bit of battery. you could try different launchers and check if that is the issue. ( screen consuming all the battery )
But cant wait to update to nougat. so finally here at xda forums. Awesome folks here!!!

Any idea on how to root h901 running Nougat 7

yes to this thread, please build a stable lineage version for the h901 v10.

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Just came back to Android, thoughts

Hey guys how's it going? Just picked up a LG G2 on Verizon this week and its my first time using android since the Galaxy Nexus back on Ice Cream Sandwich. Android has come such a long way since its amazing. Just kind of thinking out loud here but I'm almost considering going back to iOS. By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like Android is such a beautiful OS, Google Now is absolutely amazing and android is way better looking and complex than iOS but there's still a couple things that I did like about it. The music app by Google on the phone is pretty laggy and is a little tough to navigate IMO. Does anyone recommend any music players that are better?
Does anyone else feel the frame drop I am experiencing though? Would love to get my hands on a Nexus 5 because I know they have the best optimization possible in most cases.
Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
datsyuk said:
Hey guys how's it going? Just picked up a LG G2 on Verizon this week and its my first time using android since the Galaxy Nexus back on Ice Cream Sandwich. Android has come such a long way since its amazing. Just kind of thinking out loud here but I'm almost considering going back to iOS. By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like Android is such a beautiful OS, Google Now is absolutely amazing and android is way better looking and complex than iOS but there's still a couple things that I did like about it. The music app by Google on the phone is pretty laggy and is a little tough to navigate IMO. Does anyone recommend any music players that are better?
Does anyone else feel the frame drop I am experiencing though? Would love to get my hands on a Nexus 5 because I know they have the best optimization possible in most cases.
Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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I have tried several AOSP roms on the G2 and I find the LG stock rom to be quicker, stable and better battery life etc... at this present time then AOSP. While the stable version was just released yesterday it still needs time to work out the kinks.
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I have tried several AOSP roms on the G2 and I find the LG stock rom to be quicker, stable and better battery life etc... at this present time then AOSP. While the stable version was just released yesterday it still needs time to work out the kinks.
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Yeah just curious as to what's going on because it still seems pretty choppy to me and I am even trying out the new runtime ART. Maybe I'll flash a stock ROM like Clean ROM. Honestly I played with a friends Moto X week or two ago on Verizon on 4.4 and was very impressed!
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Yeah just curious as to what's going on because it still seems pretty choppy to me and I am even trying out the new runtime ART. Maybe I'll flash a stock ROM like Clean ROM. Honestly I played with a friends Moto X week or two ago on Verizon on 4.4 and was very impressed!
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I encourage you to try Clean Rom. And download the trial version of PowerAmp. If you go back to iOS after to listening to this phone running poweramp on a stock based rom, it just wasn't meant to be. I came to this phone after an iphone and I'm telling you with a decent pair of headphones, this phone sounds amazing.
Buttons are a getting used to thing.
I keep turning the phone over to make sure I have it on the right one.
datsyuk said:
Also Verizon guys because I know buttons are kind of different, am I gonna get used to thesr buttons or will a case make it any better? They're driving me crazy especially when the phone is laying on a table and I have to pick the phone up to turn it off.
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Stop complaining use knock on and knock off
LG G2
I came from an iPhone5 went for an S4 then this. Never looking back.
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jiteshj said:
Stop complaining use knock on and knock off
LG G2
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No knock off on AOSP
you need to realize that KitKat for LG G2 is in Alpha stage...which means it is not 100% more like 70%...ART isnt even working.
jedthehumanoid said:
I encourage you to try Clean Rom. And download the trial version of PowerAmp. If you go back to iOS after to listening to this phone running poweramp on a stock based rom, it just wasn't meant to be. I came to this phone after an iphone and I'm telling you with a decent pair of headphones, this phone sounds amazing.
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THIS! How would you compare your iPhone and your G2? Which one has the better sound with headphones? I mean, both set at the best settings you did on them. It is very important for me, as I can't decide between a G2, a Z1 and an iPhone 5S. I already own an iPhone 5. Had a lot of iPhones before though. I will even run the portable amp way witht them, I love my C&C BH and I love my ZO. :good:
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you need to realize that KitKat for LG G2 is in Alpha stage...which means it is not 100% more like 70%...ART isnt even working.
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I'm running CM11 Rom not posted on this site (it was but the thread was closed) theres a newer version floating around on that other site that is really good, and ART works just fine. I've been running it for a week with no problems at all.
I can't from iOS as well and the scrolling took me a little while to get used to. I don't notice it much now. I think it's just a difference in scrolling mechanics I think. That being said iOS bored me and in loving my g2
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
xian_online said:
I'm running CM11 Rom not posted on this site (it was but the thread was closed) theres a newer version floating around on that other site that is really good, and ART works just fine. I've been running it for a week with no problems at all.
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what site is that?
G1_enthusiast said:
what site is that?
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/109073-rom-wip-cm11-for-lg-g2-vs980/
Someone tell me if I'm breaking some rule by linking to this.
Anyway, this is a great rom. Really stable for this early on, been running it for over a week. Switched to the kernel posted in the non carrier G2 dev section a few days ago, running spectacularly considering how new it is. The only really bad problem I'm having is the kernel broke the camera. Not all the time, it works sometimes, but it craps out sometimes. It has the same problems as the other ASOP roms are having (low benchmarks, the stock camera app has only 8mp cam (13mp works in other cams,) sound quality suffers compared to stock, etc) but generally its fast, smooth, stable, and I love it. I can't go back from kitkat now. Give it a shot!
xian_online said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/109073-rom-wip-cm11-for-lg-g2-vs980/
Someone tell me if I'm breaking some rule by linking to this.
Anyway, this is a great rom. Really stable for this early on, been running it for over a week. Switched to the kernel posted in the non carrier G2 dev section a few days ago, running spectacularly considering how new it is. The only really bad problem I'm having is the kernel broke the camera. Not all the time, it works sometimes, but it craps out sometimes. It has the same problems as the other ASOP roms are having (low benchmarks, the stock camera app has only 8mp cam (13mp works in other cams,) sound quality suffers compared to stock, etc) but generally its fast, smooth, stable, and I love it. I can't go back from kitkat now. Give it a shot!
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eh verizon....I'm running tmobile
Just give it a little more time. Cm11 is going to run very very well.
Sent from my LG-VS980 using Tapatalk
cckeeler said:
I can't from iOS as well and the scrolling took me a little while to get used to. I don't notice it much now. I think it's just a difference in scrolling mechanics I think. That being said iOS bored me and in loving my g2
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
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Still having a little trouble typing it seems...
But I came from iOS. I just couldn't stand it anymore, and needed a new change of pace. I feel like I've missed so much by not being on Android for so long.
Thanks the input, hopefully Cyanogenmod 11 picks up quickly for the G2. It runs pretty well Android has come such a long way the thing that drives me crazy the most about this is the way the scrolling works in Android, iOS has absolutely wonderful scrolling, elastic, and consistent. Flicks on Android are choppy in apps at times and not consistent on how it scrolls. SMS and iMessages sent a little quicker and more consistent as well but that's not a big deal. Miss iTunes a bit for music management too idk how to get my Recently Added playlist onto my device which I locally store all of the songs on it.
Also blows my mind but Google images when you scroll through is extremely laggy! Probably the most lag I've seen anywhere on the phone. You would think being their own website and me using Chrome that wouldn't happen haha.
That said Android is a beautiful OS, way more entertaining and options than iOS. Let's see if I can get used to it I have until January 15th I can get a full refund if I want to.
Not long ago, I was cleaning out my garage and checking out some old PCs, trying to clean up the harddrives before recycling.
The damn Windows Me was sure running "fast like hell". ... simple OS does run faster .. even on crappy HW.
(one thought crossed my mind ... how crazily-fast it would run on my current kick-ass HW ?)
datsyuk said:
By now I thought android would be much smoother than what I have seen running AOSP 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs, not necessarily lag and the phone stuttering but the frame rate of the phone and scrolling just doesn't match iOS which is really a bummer. Does anyone else feel this way?
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I agree... However, I cannot cope with the limits of iOS, so I keep picking android phones.

From Nexus 5 to LG G2

I loved my Nexus 5 but my power button was starting to be erratic and I had the US version that was lacking 4G as I live in the UK. Vodafone were selling the G2 at only £150 ($230) on black Friday so I decided to take the plunge.
I was hoping the G2 would be like a Nexus 5 with a bigger battery and better camera but feared the bloat. I’m into my second week of usage now and I’m pleasantly surprised for the following reasons:-
-Getting double the battery, (double standby, double SOT, all with much higher brightness.)
-Some of the bloat is actually useful like Quick Remote and Wireless Storage.
-The UI doesn’t feel that much slower.
-Vibration feels nicer.
A few things I’d wish they would sort out:-
-No recents button, (WTF where they thinking?)
-Some bloat can’t be disabled or uninstalled.
-No ART.
-Firmware has to be updated by Google, then LG, then Vodafone.
I know that many of my wishes would be solved by rooting but I’m unable to find a download for the Vodafone UK 20e firmware. (If i need to go back.)
Has anyone else come from the Nexus 5? Do you regard it an upgrade or downgrade? What are your thoughts? Are you a G2 owner thinking of going the other way?
I created this Thread for discussion and not a, “mine is better than yours,” etc. :angel:
Thanks.
Masteryates said:
I loved my Nexus 5 but my power button was starting to be erratic and I had the US version that was lacking 4G as I live in the UK. Vodafone were selling the G2 at only £150 ($230) on black Friday so I decided to take the plunge.
I was hoping the G2 would be like a Nexus 5 with a bigger battery and better camera but feared the bloat. I’m into my second week of usage now and I’m pleasantly surprised for the following reasons:-
-Getting double the battery, (double standby, double SOT, all with much higher brightness.)
-Some of the bloat is actually useful like Quick Remote and Wireless Storage.
-The UI doesn’t feel that much slower.
-Vibration feels nicer.
A few things I’d wish they would sort out:-
-No recents button, (WTF where they thinking?)
-Some bloat can’t be disabled or uninstalled.
-No ART.
-Firmware has to be updated by Google, then LG, then Vodafone.
I know that many of my wishes would be solved by rooting but I’m unable to find a download for the Vodafone UK 20e firmware. (If i need to go back.)
Has anyone else come from the Nexus 5? Do you regard it an upgrade or downgrade? What are your thoughts? Are you a G2 owner thinking of going the other way?
I created this Thread for discussion and not a, “mine is better than yours,” etc. :angel:
Thanks.
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Actually I had the Nexus 5 since the release and then went for a G2. Gotta say its a nice upgrade from Nexus 5 but you will have to be patient for Android updates as LG is being late on firmware updates. Then when the Android L was released, i got impatient and sold the G2 just to get Nexus 5 and use new android version .....but i regret this, I miss the G2 and I'm looking to get one soon.
ps. I watched a leaked video of official Lollipop on G2 and they have added the recent button instead of the Menu button(which i didn't liked it either).
Best regards.
Of course G2 is an upgrade. LoL, OMG, what question....
PS recents buttons will be present on Lollipop official instead of menu button. Well have G3 UI.
Its funny that when choosing a phone after the Nexus 5, I only thought of phones that came out in the Kit Kat era due to not liking Lollipop.
I tried it on the Nexus 5 and it only lasted about a day before I went back to KK. There are too many bugs, too many bad decisions and the memory leak that make Lollipop dreadful as a daily driver. When they sort things out I'd like to use Lollipop but the good thing about the G2 is that I can always go back to KK if I chose. The Nexus 6 for instance doesn't give you this option. :crying:
And yes, overall I do think the G2 is an upgrade. :highfive:
as soon as you root install xposed and then g2 tweakbox and you can unleash its powers
and i wanted to get a n5 but the battery life scares me on that phone
Masteryates said:
-No recents button, (WTF where they thinking?)
-Some bloat can’t be disabled or uninstalled.
-No ART.
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Number 1 and 3 will come when LG pushes Lollipop. We'll get G3 UI and with that comes recents button.
Only question to that is, will KitKat which we have now be better than future and possibly buggy Lollipop.
2 can be fixed by root but I think you already know that
And also, you can flash ROMs with [All Variants] on the thread title. So you can have G3 ROMs now. And yes, they are stable
For the 20E Vodafone firmware go here: http://lg-phone-firmware.com/firmware-Lg+G2-Tutti-36.html
Now you are all set. Enjoy!
I've made this move too
G2 over N5
Double or more battery life
More megapixel on câmera
5% more screen
option to have an 'stock' and 'pure' ROM
video 1080p60Hz and 2160p30Hz
32GB (some)
N5 over G2
little bit faster
camera with PkmX/lcamera alow to have full control and much better low light photos
Here in Brazil, N5 is more expensive to resell
For the 20E Vodafone firmware go here: http://lg-phone-firmware.com/firmware-Lg+G2-Tutti-36.html
Thanks, thanks and thanks again!
Yea Root is mandatory for the G2 IMO. I've stayed on the stock experience because I really love the perks and features of the LG rom.
I personally use a G3 Rom Port. Works beautifully and has options for changing the nav buttons to include Recent built into the rom.
OR just install Xposed and G2 Tweakbox or G3 Tweakbox (depending on what you are using).
AND CHANGE THE DPI to 400! So much better at 400 (or 380).
The NavBar keys do not require root. Just download the APK and install:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795853
The G3 rom ports DO have ART support... but XPOSED doesn't support ART... so half dozen 6 in the other. Xposed > Art so I stick with DALIK
Thanks for the post. Trying to decide between N5 and G2.
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Thanks for the post. Trying to decide between N5 and G2.
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I also had to make that decision I suggest the G2 since its actually in almost every way better and it costs now around the same pruce but you get better hardware and software. If you want the nexus feeling just flash a aosp rom on it.
wulsic said:
I also had to make that decision I suggest the G2 since its actually in almost every way better and it costs now around the same pruce but you get better hardware and software. If you want the nexus feeling just flash a aosp rom on it.
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Thanks. I keep going back and forth. The specs on the G2 do seem superior. I guess I just need to see how hard it is to unlock bootloader and flash roms on G2. I'm pretty comfortable using Fastboot.
Do the buttons on the back of the device bother you? I just don't know anyone with a G2 and I know several with a Nexus 5.
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Thanks. I keep going back and forth. The specs on the G2 do seem superior. I guess I just need to see how hard it is to unlock bootloader and flash roms on G2. I'm pretty comfortable using Fastboot.
Do the buttons on the back of the device bother you? I just don't know anyone with a G2 and I know several with a Nexus 5.
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They don't at all. Only issue i have with them is that when my phones on a table, i cant change the volume. Otherwise, they work much better than standard buttons. The first few days are awkward though, specially when you keep pressing the camera lens instead of the power button
I also LOVE the fact that they allow for the amazingly thin bezels. Truly makes this phone look and feel amazing.
npiper05 said:
Thanks. I keep going back and forth. The specs on the G2 do seem superior. I guess I just need to see how hard it is to unlock bootloader and flash roms on G2. I'm pretty comfortable using Fastboot.
Do the buttons on the back of the device bother you? I just don't know anyone with a G2 and I know several with a Nexus 5.
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Well you can't unlock bootloader yet this isn't only the fault from LG because Providers also want the bootloader to stay locked but we can flash normally roms now using loki/bump so it's not the biggest issue anymore but it will be alot easier if it will get unlocked. Well you could use fastboot but then you need a mod from savoca to acces it like that. I was also used to fastboot on my nexus4 but I will tell you once you have the G2 you wouldn't care much anymore. I was a big flashaholic and now I am mostly staying on the CloudyG3 rom because of it's great features and camera app which aren't fully working on AOSP roms. But once we will get multiboot fully working on the G2 we will feature lollipop and G3 stock rom :good:
It doesn't bother me at all, first I thought that it was going to be a big obstacle but I really like them at the back, easy to control for me and with knockon and knockoff it's perfect, although like alb3rtt said before, volume changing when the phone is on the table is sometimes annoying but it's not a big deal since you got the volume slider in the status bar when you are on stock atleast.
again like alb3rtt said, the first days were indeed awkward because I also touched the whole time the camera when trying to press the buttons but you get used to it fast :good: You gotta decide, much development but kinda boring (nexus5) or the LG G2 just a awesome device with enough development which is even increasing. I was thinking about which phone for 6 months so I suggest you the G2 since some bugs from the Nexus5 and the bad battery life isn't worth it.
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Thanks. I keep going back and forth. The specs on the G2 do seem superior. I guess I just need to see how hard it is to unlock bootloader and flash roms on G2. I'm pretty comfortable using Fastboot.
Do the buttons on the back of the device bother you? I just don't know anyone with a G2 and I know several with a Nexus 5.
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I used to be flashaholic when I had the Galaxy Nexus, but this changed when I moved on to the Optimus G and now the G2.
I find LG ROMs amazing and have everything one needs.
The increased screen size over basically the same phone size is a great plus.
Personally I, as well as people around me, think that the back button arrangement should be on every phone. They really help keep the footprint down.
I didn't have problems hitting the keys as they perfectly placed for my hand(which is average in size).
For me, I don't change my volume while it's on a table or something so it's not a problem, and it's more useful as I can easily change the volume while my phone is in my G2.
CloudyG3 + Dorimanx kernel = best combination I have ever used on any phone.
npiper05 said:
Thanks. I keep going back and forth. The specs on the G2 do seem superior. I guess I just need to see how hard it is to unlock bootloader and flash roms on G2. I'm pretty comfortable using Fastboot.
Do the buttons on the back of the device bother you? I just don't know anyone with a G2 and I know several with a Nexus 5.
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I'm actually starting to prefer the back buttons on the G2 :silly: When I'm trying to take a photo on holiday, I can fire up the camera whilst the phone is still in my pocket and not attract attention to myself. Knock on and knock off rule also.
I'm now using the most upto date LG stock rom (20H) and dont believe a stock rom will ever be as smooth as the Nexus 5. Just ask yourself this, which is better, A smooth phone with a joke of a battery or a 10% slower phone with a 100% better battery. Its an easy choice in my book. :angel:

Im considering buying Moto E 2nd Gen LTE. Is it worth it?

Hi. I currently own Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 for more than a year and I thought its good time to change phone. As you can see, Im a person who buys budget phones. I was searching for my next budget phone and Motorola Moto E LTE got my attention. I couldnt find a better deal than this, so I thought before making a final decision I will ask some opinions from people who got this phone. So, what do you think of Moto E and can you recommend it? What are biggest disadvantages and hows the performance? I already know that lack of flashlight is big hit for me.
Well it's a hard question. On stock 5.0.2 (there is still no update in eu) performance is preatty bad. Sometimes it runs smooth but there are cases when it lags horrible. I don't know who even installed chrome on this phone: it is cleary unusable however I instaled lighting browser and it works fine.
I've bought this phone because I tought that it will be my first smartphone which will be runing fine out of the box without modifications and I'm disapionted now :/ There is update in US and it probably fixes some of performance issues but when it will be available in eu? We still don't know.
Of course there is some good things like:
- of course price
- build quality
- very fast gps
- decent screen for it's price
- great battery life (up to 7h of screen on time)
- almost clean android
- decent speaker
- sd card slot and enabled android's app to sd
- up to date cpu (bigger chance that it will get android m)
- lte
- big data partion (we get 5gb out of 8gb so I think that's good)
- good light sensor
- and I very like it's look (but it's my own preference)
and what is bad now:
- performance on 5.0.2
- there is no e-compas! (my xperia x8 had compas in 2010)
- no notification led (this is very annoying since moto display is too sensitive and ambient display works randomly)
- fornt camera (back one is decent but sometimes it can't focus well)
- lack of camera flash
- updates aren't so fast (at least in eu)
- miracast isn't working (because of only 2,4 ghz wifi)
- moto features aren't working well on 5.0.2, for exaple twist to turn on camera isn't working properly (after twist I feel the vibration but screen isn't turning on)
So would I buy it again?? I don't know, it's performance is really discapointing right now. I compared it to moto g on 4.4.4 (which should be slower because of 720p screen and slower cpu) and it was like day and night. G was way faster.
Thats a bummer. I thought it was very good for basic usage like messages and browser. I heard Android 5.0 had memory leaks, but from what youre saying performance is really bad here. Is it fixed in 5.1?
well for basic usage it can make a job, I discabled all moto services that you can discable in settings, installed nova launcher, lighting browser and it's somehow working. When it starts lags I clean my recent apps and it helps.
The phone is preatty good but it was relased in bad time, in days of probably the worst android relase, lollipop looks cool but it can't be as fast as kitkat :/
howerer when I compared it to my other firend's moto g on stock 5.0.2 they were running simmilar and he told me that he hasn't got issues with it (but he often clear recent apps so maybe thats the reason)
I belive that 5.1.1 will fix all the issues, we have to wait.
I would appreciate other people opinions.
just too good a phone at this price
diablos222 said:
I would appreciate other people opinions.
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when i purchased it i dint have much expectations considering its cheap.but then as i am using it for over 2 months now ,i dont feel it as a cheap phone.it never hanged on me..not even once.though i have disabled quite a lot of stuff but thats fine...this is first phone i am running without rooting in last 5 years.and surprisingly i am not feeling need to .My battery lasts beyond 3 days and it runs fast enuf in comparison to my past phones which i had to root to make them usable(samsung s3 , s advance etc)
i wud say go fr it..5.1 update is sure to improve it further
When I first bought my moto e (xt1526) a few months back, at first it sucked. I wanted my ZTE max back. Everything was laggy. Even after the 5.1 update. So, I rooted and tinkered with roms that our great XDA developers have been working very hard on, until I found one that was somewhat solid. It ended up being a soak test 5.1 rom. It made the phone snappy and overall great. The only issue is my mic drops out on my bluetooth sometimes. Overall it is a great phone to me for its price.
lightyearjones said:
When I first bought my moto e (xt1526) a few months back, at first it sucked. I wanted my ZTE max back. Everything was laggy. Even after the 5.1 update. So, I rooted and tinkered with roms that our great XDA developers have been working very hard on, until I found one that was somewhat solid. It ended up being a soak test 5.1 rom. It made the phone snappy and overall great. The only issue is my mic drops out on my bluetooth sometimes. Overall it is a great phone to me for its price.
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Well, I think it cant be worse than my current Galaxy Ace 2.

Needing advice - best stock firmware for battery/performance/stability

Hi there all - I've been digging through these forums, and all over the web, and have not found a definitive answer for this one.
I'd love to know what the best setup is for a stock ROM - I'm running 7.11 (latest 32.4.A.1.54) and I'm not too impressed with the battery life, even with a brand new battery. That version is stable for me, but I'm wondering who's tinkered with their phone enough to have a good baseline?
I'm wanting to root, and then run a debloated stock ROM. I'll happily apply some tweaks, but the ones I've seen on here appear to be no longer stable, or unrelated to my needs.
Who's settled on a really good setup for their Z5C? I want to get a final config and just use the thing until I upgrade - no more testing updates etc. I doubt we'll be getting many more official updates...
bener said:
Hi there all - I've been digging through these forums, and all over the web, and have not found a definitive answer for this one.
I'd love to know what the best setup is for a stock ROM - I'm running 7.11 (latest 32.4.A.1.54) and I'm not too impressed with the battery life, even with a brand new battery. That version is stable for me, but I'm wondering who's tinkered with their phone enough to have a good baseline?
I'm wanting to root, and then run a debloated stock ROM. I'll happily apply some tweaks, but the ones I've seen on here appear to be no longer stable, or unrelated to my needs.
Who's settled on a really good setup for their Z5C? I want to get a final config and just use the thing until I upgrade - no more testing updates etc. I doubt we'll be getting many more official updates...
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Carbon Rom is pretty Solid!! I've got the original battery and battery life is quite good!! But then....you said stock and Carbon is Lineage based
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 Compact using XDA Labs
Chronic2k13 said:
Carbon Rom is pretty Solid!! I've got the original battery and battery life is quite good!! But then....you said stock and Carbon is Lineage based
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 Compact using XDA Labs
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I'd be totally willing to give it a go - it just seems that all the ROMs I've found have one or two decent 'not working' issues. I'll look into it - thanks for the recommendation.
Last Android 5, 32.2.A.0.305_R5C gave me, yes I am a light user, 10 (ten) days!
Then 6 came and it almost halved.
Fingerprint unlocking was better on 6, so I didn't go back to 5.
Phone battery was fresher then of course.
hermovv said:
Last Android 5, 32.2.A.0.305_R5C gave me, yes I am a light user, 10 (ten) days!
Then 6 came and it almost halved.
Fingerprint unlocking was better on 6, so I didn't go back to 5.
Phone battery was fresher then of course.
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That's amazing! What do you get on 6? 7 has not been good battery-wise for me.
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That's amazing! What do you get on 6? 7 has not been good battery-wise for me.
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On 6: it was a 4-6 days. Now on 7.1.1 (32.4.A.1.54_R3E) 3 days, but nowadays a use the device more intense (GPS always on). I have ForceDoze installed. Don't expect wonders from ForceDoze.
I am not monitoring it very close anymore, just accepted that it isn't over week anymore!
On 5 I had not ForceDoze installed, bus disabled some things (usually GPS off)
You guys, more than 2days means you are not REALLY using your phone!!! Or you are using it as a phone and not much more!!! Add Bluetooth connections, sometimes bad signal, location services, multiple messaging apps and mails to get the usual battery time of 1-2 days?
I'm intrested in this question too... Which is the best ROM for Z5c for STABILITY and STABILITY and features?
I installed eXistenZ on a Z3c and I really loved it. Everything working without a single bug and a lot of extra customizations thanks to eXistenZ app. Is there something similar for Z5c? Or an AOSP ROM without any single bug and perfectly stable?
Thank you
Chronic2k13 said:
Carbon Rom is pretty Solid!! I've got the original battery and battery life is quite good!! But then....you said stock and Carbon is Lineage based
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z5 Compact using XDA Labs
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But is it better than stock ROM?
Im looking for the same thing as OP. Clean, stable and good battery life. But since messing with Sony roms and root is far more complicated than it is on a Samsung, LG and pretty much anything else, just havnt taken the time to try out everything. Hope anyone who has tried different roms can give their suggestions, thanks
Latest .11 MM stock rom is also very good.
I'm still using it daily on my Z5c, as I never updated it to Nougat (mainly because xposed was not supported months ago). It's stable and battery friendly. You should try it.
Doze and long-life battery features are there.
I cannot say if camera is better on Nougat, this is one of the most Important questions imo.

Why G5 gets no updates?

Sometimes I just keep thinking, why is it so hard to update the G5? I mean, we don't have an official Oreo release and not even official custom Oreo roms. Why we don't even have Lineageos? The beauty of Lineageos is keeping older devices updated, and we don't have it! In a 2016's flagship!
This bothers me a lot. When I had a S4 Mini I used to get official custom roms 1 month after the android version release.
So, again, why do this happens? Is it some firmware issue? Maybe hardware then?
@leonardovallem The reason why official hasn't been released yet is because it isn't that bug free yet. We do have unofficial custom Oreo roms. The issue is that people don't get paid for these things and they also have a personal life. Samsung sales are much higher then those from LG, so it's logical that there are more devs then in the LG section. Perhaps they also fleed since the G5 modular design just failed and they've sacrificed build quality for modularity in my opinion.
So if it really bothers you then I would suggest to free up some time and learn the basics (No offense, this is the struggle that many developer had when they began for their devices).
I also don't have time nor the enthousiasm to do something for the G5 since I've also got the famous GPS- and battery dying at 20-25% issue and that's what really bothers me since the battery life was already mediocre to begin with.
wulsic said:
@leonardovallem The reason why official hasn't been released yet is because it isn't that bug free yet. We do have unofficial custom Oreo roms. The issue is that people don't get paid for these things and they also have a personal life. Samsung sales are much higher then those from LG, so it's logical that there are more devs then in the LG section. Perhaps they also fleed since the G5 modular design just failed and they've sacrificed build quality for modularity in my opinion.
So if it really bothers you then I would suggest to free up some time and learn the basics (No offense, this is the struggle that many developer had when they began for their devices).
I also don't have time nor the enthousiasm to do something for the G5 since I've also got the famous GPS- and battery dying at 20-25% issue and that's what really bothers me since the battery life was already mediocre to begin with.
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sure learn the basics got it

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