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I've had my vibrant since it came out. They have 512 of ram hardware. I know we've gotten up to 344 or so with tweaking, but why can't we get the full 512 at all?
I have a feeling it has to do with Samsung or drivers, but with everything I've seen devs overcome I can't see why this is still a problem.
I have a nook color which has inferior hardware overall, but the biggest reason I see it as more stable is it never has memory management issues(running any rom). My biggest reasons to dump my vibrant for a Hercules or comparable is because of the constant ram issues the vibrant has that they wont, along with better hardware.
Maybe the answer is out there, but I haven't seen it in a whole year(so answers could be outdated), nor it brought up for a very long time.
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That 512 MB is shared ram. So some of it is dedicated to the video processor which is built into CPU. Phones have to be slim and light I don't think well be seeing dedicated videocards and soundcards anytime soon.
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The simple answer is that our system needs to set aside a certain amount of ram for the actual OS to use, nothing that we can necessarily touch. Certain apps occupy memory at all times and we're left with whatever memory hasn't been allocated by OS. I'm not the most technical but that's the general consensus from what I've read over the last 2 years of running Android.
If you want to really push the limits of what free ram you can achieve, I would highly suggest reading the OP of this thread. In there you'll see how you can adjust the way your system handles recently opened and closed apps. My phone feels a million times better, just using those simple to use tweaks/scripts.
Let me know if you need any help.
- Mat
dardani89 said:
That 512 MB is shared ram. So some of it is dedicated to the video processor which is built into CPU. Phones have to be slim and light I don't think well be seeing dedicated videocards and soundcards anytime soon.
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I know the nook has no dedicated gpu, but it makes use of most if not all of that ram.. unless I am playing a graphically intensive game, it rarely drops below 100mb available ram, usually staying around 150+ until I've opened a ton of apps. Oh, and many phones that are coming out have a dedicated gpu, such as all of the variants of the samsung galaxy S II. it has a Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset.. and awesome battery life I have heard.
Either way, my nook color doesn't experience the laggyness that my vibrant does until I have used so much it makes sense, but considering my vibrant stays around 60mb of available ram +/- most of the time..
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The simple answer is that our system needs to set aside a certain amount of ram for the actual OS to use, nothing that we can necessarily touch. Certain apps occupy memory at all times and we're left with whatever memory hasn't been allocated by OS. I'm not the most technical but that's the general consensus from what I've read over the last 2 years of running Android.
If you want to really push the limits of what free ram you can achieve, I would highly suggest reading the OP of this thread. In there you'll see how you can adjust the way your system handles recently opened and closed apps. My phone feels a million times better, just using those simple to use tweaks/scripts.
Let me know if you need any help.
- Mat
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You have no idea how hard I have been trying to find that app, I was going to try it when I was running simply honeyv5 because the memory issues were so horrible, but I couldn't find it again, and minfreemanager was the next best thing.. so I am VERY glad you posted it.
Are you using a specific set of pre-made settings, a specific script, or some custom setup, and which?
I am just trying to get my vibrant as usable as possible until the hercules and other comparable phones come out, so I can weigh them against each other. I don't regret my vibrant, but I wish I had waited a little longer so I had made a more informed choice.. if I can make it kickass again, at least for a few months, I will be a happy guy. Thanks again.
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I know the nook has no dedicated gpu, but it makes use of most if not all of that ram.. unless I am playing a graphically intensive game, it rarely drops below 100mb available ram, usually staying around 150+ until I've opened a ton of apps. Oh, and many phones that are coming out have a dedicated gpu, such as all of the variants of the samsung galaxy S II. it has a Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset.. and awesome battery life I have heard.
Either way, my nook color doesn't experience the laggyness that my vibrant does until I have used so much it makes sense, but considering my vibrant stays around 60mb of available ram +/- most of the time..
You have no idea how hard I have been trying to find that app, I was going to try it when I was running simply honeyv5 because the memory issues were so horrible, but I couldn't find it again, and minfreemanager was the next best thing.. so I am VERY glad you posted it.
Are you using a specific set of pre-made settings, a specific script, or some custom setup, and which?
I am just trying to get my vibrant as usable as possible until the hercules and other comparable phones come out, so I can weigh them against each other. I don't regret my vibrant, but I wish I had waited a little longer so I had made a more informed choice.. if I can make it kickass again, at least for a few months, I will be a happy guy. Thanks again.
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No problem man. I'm actually using option #9 in V8 right now and it's been a dream. It stops holding apps in memory after not using them a few seconds, which is great for what I'm looking for. What you'll find is that it manages the memory and how quickly things are slotted around (different priorities that android gives particular applications; Launcher, Dialer, Messaging, etc.). You can actually try every option and see which you find the best.
I started out with option #2 and then moved all the way down as I found things I didn't like in some, but liked in others.Give it a shot man!
- Mat
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No problem man. I'm actually using option #9 in V8 right now and it's been a dream. It stops holding apps in memory after not using them a few seconds, which is great for what I'm looking for. What you'll find is that it manages the memory and how quickly things are slotted around (different priorities that android gives particular applications; Launcher, Dialer, Messaging, etc.). You can actually try every option and see which you find the best.
I started out with option #2 and then moved all the way down as I found things I didn't like in some, but liked in others.Give it a shot man!
- Mat
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I'm actually using number 2 now in the allandroidv8 script, and if anything maybe it is too aggressive, but it has it's snappiness back. Looking at how they set the rom I'm using and the one before it, it looks like they didn't tweak it at all from stock cm7.. if anything I think they've made tweaks it more recent nightlies better than those roms! Simply honey(who brags about how great they are) and Biff ron both need some tweaking.. I'm gonna play with it, but thanks for posting what I was trying so hard to find
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I've noticed the higher version of android I go up on my phone, the more ram applications use and the system itself does.
So my question is, when is it that our phones won't have enough ram to handle more than one app running? The max my phone can handle with 403 system ram using the devil kernel on JB is like about 2-3, then the app restarts or refreshes.
What about you guys?
Hmm I've felt that the higher, the less ram. I was on slimbean and I had 180+ available ram all the time. Well, when playing music it would drop to 170 mb, but its still really good. Right now I'm on aokp and I have music, kakaotalk, Google services, lookout, android keyboard all taking up ram under running apps and I still have about 160 mb free. Aokp has this performance tweak that controls how much ram will be free on every reboot. That's why I have so much free ram even though my total is only 378 mb. You should try aokp. Its really nice
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My phone's on Android2.3.6. It has 366M Ram, and I've no lag or FC.
More Ram means less sth. else, as the Galaxy S variants have only 512 ram.
The phone may lose 720P recording on 403 Ram, other weird things may happen too.
For daily use, I prefer 366M ram.
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My phone's on Android2.3.6. It has 366M Ram, and I've no lag or FC.
More Ram means less sth. else, as the Galaxy S variants have only 512 ram.
The phone may lose 720P recording on 403 Ram, other weird things may happen too.
For daily use, I prefer 366M ram.
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Haha, sorry I find that funny. GB has always been slow and unstable. Froyo was good thanks to Bionix and Fishman. Even though GB looked nice and was fun playing around with, (LOVED Sensation ROM and RevoultionROM JVQ) they began to lag after a while and unfortunately GPS did not work. ICS was really nice but it had the EU bug. JB is (obviously) the fastest version.
Also, the phone WILL lose 720p recording on 403 mb of RAM, but thats why you use 391 mb. I dont notice a difference between ~10mb of RAM. I dont know why you would prefer 366 mb on gingerbread, (which is really slow compared to JB) as opposed to JB's 391 mb.
Android has been trying to smooth itself out so to run the OS itself should be enough. You can freeze the system apps you don't need so they won't automatically load themselves. To run newer games you will need a device with more ram though.
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My phone's on Android2.3.6. It has 366M Ram, and I've no lag or FC.
More Ram means less sth. else, as the Galaxy S variants have only 512 ram.
The phone may lose 720P recording on 403 Ram, other weird things may happen too.
For daily use, I prefer 366M ram.
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I must ask this as you said you were on 2.3.6 but didn't give a specific ROM name. Does your phone have a stock front facing camera?
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But guys, for example try using some of the newer app, there is also lag for some reason. And when i switch between apps, they take a while to load. Maybe i need to use zram.
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But guys, for example try using some of the newer app, there is also lag for some reason. And when i switch between apps, they take a while to load. Maybe i need to use zram.
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Maybe you need CM7 and glitch kernel. Seriously.
The thing is Vibrant doesn't have enough memory to smoothly handle multitasking and avoid casual lag (especially when pressing the recent apps button) on v4.x.x OSes.
It's great that a lot of developers spend their time porting ICS and JB, but actually I need a working and responsive phone.
Think about it, if it were false then we wouldn't have any need for newer models.
Why buying a GS3? I can run JB on my Vibrant! wooo!
Of course this is just my humble point of view, I'm not partecipating in a political debate.
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Haha, sorry I find that funny. GB has always been slow and unstable.
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Yeah, I find it funny too... somehow.
By the way, there's a huge difference between 2.3.4/6 and 2.3.7.
Obviously the vibe isn't packing 2gb of ram like the US gs3 and note2 but I've been running PA JB for a while. The only thing that seems to lag is Google search/now/browser. Other than that it runs smooth! I have about 30+ launchable system and user apps. The key is to kill app back and minimize background processes
(mines set at 3). There are other ram management choices as well.
As I said, its no gs3 but for an almost 3yr old device this vibrator is buzzing strong!
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Obviously the vibe isn't packing 2gb of ram like the US gs3 and note2 but I've been running PA JB for a while. The only thing that seems to lag is Google search/now/browser. Other than that it runs smooth! I have about 30+ launchable system and user apps. The key is to kill app back and minimize background processes
(mines set at 3). There are other ram management choices as well.
As I said, its no gs3 but for an almost 3yr old device this vibrator is buzzing strong!
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I agree... for a three year old phone these things kick ass. Im running SlimBean 2.8 which is insanely stable and responsive and quick... I have no lag issues and no force close issues and my RAM is 277MB used and 132MB free, give or take, thats with Update Me, Google Services, Keyboard, and Facebook running. I can use FB, Slacker, any browser I want... never have issues and the phone feels smoother than stock GS3 IMO... I have processes set to 3 as well and have never had a problem. Just remember we only have 512MB to work with... :silly::highfive:
http://www.downloadmoreram.com/
No need to thank me.
X to the rescue!! I downloaded 1gb and wow.....that's all I can say!
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6gb ram is enough for anything you through at it. All the apps once loaded are staying in the ram for almost ever. For once in the first week with my phone, I was playing contra on it and then left it as is. After few days, I wanted to switch to some other app and found contra there, it was still paused with contra shooting. I don't even remember how many days it was like such.
There is a feature where you can blacklist an app or allow it to be closed on locking of the device which will remove the app from the memory. This is to optimize the battery life. So other than the social apps and certain apps which I switch to mostly, I've blacklisted all other apps.
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6gb ram is enough for anything you through at it. All the apps once loaded are staying in the ram for almost ever. For once in the first week with my phone, I was playing contra on it and then left it as is. After few days, I wanted to switch to some other app and found contra there, it was still paused with contra shooting. I don't even remember how many days it was like such.
There is a feature where you can blacklist an app or allow it to be closed on locking of the device which will remove the app from the memory. This is to optimize the battery life. So other than the social apps and certain apps which I switch to mostly, I've blacklisted all other apps.
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Are u working for huawei?
mab71 said:
Are u working for huawei?
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LOL! I am impressed by this device doesn't mean I work for huawei:laugh:
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LOL! I am impressed by this device doesn't mean I work for huawei:laugh:
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So far, so good. Switching apps is fast.
Ram management has been hit after the recent update.
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K.khiladi said:
Ram management has been hit after the recent update.
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just curious... how bad was it? can elaborate?
Where exactly is this feature?
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6gb ram is enough for anything you through at it. All the apps once loaded are staying in the ram for almost ever. For once in the first week with my phone, I was playing contra on it and then left it as is. After few days, I wanted to switch to some other app and found contra there, it was still paused with contra shooting. I don't even remember how many days it was like such.
There is a feature where you can blacklist an app or allow it to be closed on locking of the device which will remove the app from the memory. This is to optimize the battery life. So other than the social apps and certain apps which I switch to mostly, I've blacklisted all other apps.
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Where exactly is this feature in honour 8 pro? Please share
lovelifeusilly said:
Where exactly is this feature in honour 8 pro? Please share
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Settings-> Battery -> Lock Screen Cleanup
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Ram management has been hit after the recent update.
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How much apps it can keep in the background?!
6 would be enough for me
PalakMi said:
How much apps it can keep in the background?!
6 would be enough for me
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It has gotten totally right now. I had reset my phone and it became better after sometime.
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It has gotten totally right now. I had reset my phone and it became better after sometime.
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That's a relief
6gb ram is soooo goddamn sweet.
It handles multitasking single handed.
Good RAM management, all apps are stored in RAM quite well.
multitasking is handled pretty well. 6 GB RAM is handling this exceptionally well.
6gb ram is enought for multitasking and also relly impress with management.
ram is more than enough for heavy multi tasking..
You can leave all apps in memory and you'll still have some left.
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Just because it's running 625.
Yes it is very fast with combination of SD 625 and 4 GB ram.
Coming from an Oneplus 5 it's OK. But of course Not near as fast
Overall it's very smooth and there are no lags anywhere.
At the same time it's slower than my almost 4 years old Nexus 5 I know I shouldn't have expected much from SnapDragon 625 but I hoped that it would beat SnapDragon 800. Not really. Singlethreaded performance is quite lower while multithreaded is obviously higher.
It is superb.. With few tweaks, 625 merged with stock starts performing at its best..
Can this run assassin's creed identity or galaxy on fire 3?
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It is superb.. With few tweaks, 625 merged with stock starts performing at its best..
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What tweaks please?
File manager.
From body to its camera, this phone is superb. But I've an issue/concern that I'm unable to find file manager to locate files, photos,videos from the phone(like usually other phone has a separate file manager in menu to view). only after downloading few apps for photos, videos and files I'm able to view them. Please help me with details how to locate those files, photos, songs and videos without those downloaded app.
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Like it so far. Just switched from HTC One X (endeavoru).
Able to play Honkai Impact 3 with recommended settings.
Updated to December 2017 update. A bit laggy on the keyboard typing at times.
as long as there is a little space in the internal storage the phone works fine.........like 10 gigs or more......should that reduce then there is slight lag....almost negligible
It is very fast phone, if you use that is a little SD 625 under the hood. But, thanks to great Android One, and regular updates, to take and keep MiA1 smooth.
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From body to its camera, this phone is superb. But I've an issue/concern that I'm unable to find file manager to locate files, photos,videos from the phone(like usually other phone has a separate file manager in menu to view). only after downloading few apps for photos, videos and files I'm able to view them. Please help me with details how to locate those files, photos, songs and videos without those downloaded app.
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Go to Settings>Storage> (Internal/External) > Files
So far so good. It's fun to use this phone. Really liked it.
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I didn't lagged a single time since i have it. Playing 3D games smooth, rendering desktop version of web pages (my last phone went crazy each time I tried that), multitasking, editing documents, no problems so far. FP scanner speed is good. Camera could load faster but still better than my Samsung.
Oh is good, 8.75/10 from me.
It's a 5/10 for me. It's works well enough considering the price of <200$ - but it's nowhere near as smooth as a Galaxy S7 or similar ~2 year old flagship phones. Don't buy this and expect the same performance!
It's okay for my use. It helps a lot the stock system.
For me this device have good speed for normal daily use. Have no lag at all. 8/10
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Coming from an Oneplus 5 it's OK. But of course Not near as fast
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Why did you get rid of one plus5
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When I run Google play store in background, other apps in foreground starts not responding.
3.5 gigs of RAM are excellent (~0.5 gigs are left for the GPU). What I don't understand is that why this device employs a 512MB swap partition which causes wear and tear of its internal storage. I'm sure as hell this swap partition cannot be disabled without rooting which I'd love to avoid.
Actually it is very smooth in terms of multi-tasking
is it just me or anyone else experienced the same thing? my recent apps keep restarting even when i got about just 4 or 5 apps opened. i checked the ram usage but it seems normal, it uses about 60-70% of ram. does anyone know whats going on here?
What i have observed is, android OS and system, and few other Google apps take up 1.5+ Gigs of RAM. I am not quite satisfied with that...
However the performance and multitasking is very good though.
Eshwar123 said:
What i have observed is, android OS and system, and few other Google apps take up 1.5+ Gigs of RAM. I am not quite satisfied with that...
However the performance and multitasking is very good though.
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That means that 2,5 gb of ram is unused and wasted.
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Can any one help in my problem.. when I leave a app for multitasking that app get automatically closed and not even shows in recent apps what is wrong with i m unable to understand this..
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Can any one help in my problem.. when I leave a app for multitasking that app get automatically closed and not even shows in recent apps what is wrong with i m unable to understand this..
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Restart your phone. Happens to me a lot on stock.
ability to use split screen for 2 apps is really nice.
Pretty much mid-range performance, as per expectation
My MiA1 since September 2017, Stock/OTA Android 8.1.0, November 2018, no further updates (Rejected all Android 9/P updates so far, latest November 2019).
Not Rooted.
Usage (Average) Statistics:
RAM: 4 GB, ~39% Free.
Int Storage: 64 GB, 55% Available.
Ext Storage: 32 GB, 13% Available.
Total number of Apps installed: 293 (true!)
Self-installed Apps: 275 (!!!)
System Apps: 18
Maintenance Apps: Greenify, AccuBattery, AntiVirus, Button Mapper, Android Assistance, ...
No crunchy Video Games, Flight Simulators etc.
Performance: Average without lags, Multitasking, split screen or with flipscreen.
Crashed twice in two years.
Currently Android is up for last 21 days no drags.
(I, usually, Shutdown in 10 days, as cleanup)
Phone goes in deep sleep (>80% of time) when inactive and screen off.
LiPo battery BN31 with ~2800mAh (90% of original) after 2+1/4 yrs
I charge 10-80% at 1.95A or 0.67C
30-40hrs use between charging.
Screen on Time 4-5hrs (~12% of use).
My Multitasking rating 3.5 / 5.
Pretty disappointing
Memory management is horrible in this phone..I have to restart the phone every 2 days.. otherwise the OS will keep killing background apps..even if u left any application to check a message or something, Android will instantly kill that app and you'll have to wait for it to reload again.. anything u were doing in that app is just gone ..I rooted my phone using magisk and uninstalled many bloatware like ant Hal services etc,..I use SD maid pro to clear caches, force closed every other app,tried to tweak the settings of the low memory killer, increased the size of the swap file even overclocked the phone to stay running at the max CPU ratio but nothing worked ..apps keeps getting closed the exact second u leave them despite having more than 2 gigs of free RAM
A1 just works fine for me