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The OnePlus X looks great, has good specs and a very good price. But I'm reading lots and lots of issues relating to both hardware and software. I don't want to order one and then find it's a buggy piece of junk. I'm looking for a smooth, fast and reliable phone because I'm fed up with my laggy Moto G (1st gen). I've a low tolerance for annoying bugs/faults, and don't want to be disappointed if I buy a OPX
So the question is.. are you happy with your OPX, or do you regret buying it?
I'm happy with it, but you should know that X stands for Experimental. Oneplus has made a lot of choices there that may not fit the lambda customer. As a developer that like to flash roms and kernel, i'm happy!
But there are a lot of issues currently, and the performance are not that good (OxygenOS rom is pretty young). That will be fixed eventually but it will likely take some months...
No regrets here. Mainly because I don't consider software issues as a real problem. It's fixable. Anytime, anywhere. OnePlus even tolerant to rooting/unlocking. I've tried most expensive phones, like Xperia Z5, S6, and all of them had hardware issues. Which is most unlikely with OPX. But in your "low tolerance for annoying bugs/faults" case, I'd wait for a month or so until couple more OTAs out and bought OPX. In case you are inpatient, chose another phone.
It's an amazing phone, however, like others have said. Oxygen OS, is pretty much in a nightly stage. There's some lag that shouldn't exist on a phone with an 801 & 3GB of ram. The camera software needs some optimization. But these are all software issues that can be corrected. Once we have custom ROMs the true potential of the phone will be unleashed.
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Only wish it had more memory. I can't use the MicroSD expansion because I need the slot for dual SIM.
wouldn't want to go back to my previous phone (xiaomi mi4)
Absolutely no,
Had a Oneplus One and a Samsung Galaxy S5
and the X is a whole different feeling, its just so stylish and I havent noticed any lags or performance issues at all.
Hi. I sold my Samsung Note3 because it was getting too big for use. I started to look for phone with 5 inch display, with amoled technology, with 3 gigs of ram and micro sd slot, and then OnePlus X came to show. And i dont regret of buying that device. It is slightly worse than Note3, i mean battery and camera, allso performance, but hey, that phone costs half price of new Note3. And that is something right?
No. I dont regret, and im happy that we will receive android 6.0 - note3 will not... that was also one of reasons of buying new phone.
The OnePlus X is a beautiful phone, feels and looks like a premium handset and the screen is amazing.
However, I am shamed to admit that mine has been sitting in the box in my drawer pretty much since I received it on 11th November. Disappointed.
Everytime I get it out for a play there is some sort of micro stutter or a bit of lag that annoys me that just doesn't occur on my HTC One M8 although the specs are virtually identical. I am just holding out for the custom ROMs that are on the way and hope they improve the whole experience because I can't see me giving up my HTC otherwise .
Seems there are happy users amongst the people with complaints, which is good to see. I like the OPX, I think I might just give it a try. I'll definitely be using a custom ROM once something stable is developed
I love the phone, but am in a weird situation.
I am in the minority where I had a chinese bootloader unlock screen...these phones are unable to flash twrp. The ability to flash custom roms is why I want this phone and what would make it great, but I am not able to do that. Hopefully a fix will be found.
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Hi all,
I can't say I regret my OPX.
But I must admit my Nexus 5 was just perfect for :
- stability (stock non rooted),
- lag (simple: zero lag, anywhere, any app)
- games (such as FPSE + OpenGL -> zero lag with N5, lag and framerate pb with OPX)
- Bluetooth chipset: best compatibility with N5 (lag issue for OPX + Madcatz C.T.R.L.r but not with OPX + MOGA pocket)
- ROM (But as some said before, OPX and OxygenOS are still young. I'm still waiting for an AOSP or a CM to get better memory/CPU management)
According to design, it's a very subjective part... Let's say N5 is sober, and OPX seems to be more valuable (...iPhone-ish style...)
So, I'm not disappointed of OPX, but I still keep my N5 near me: if CM or AOSP don't fix lag/stability issues, I think I'll go back to N5. (...even if it has a poor battery life!)
Wait & see so!
[EDIT]
Made my choice: bought nano sim -> micro sim adaptater to go back to my perfect Nexus 5.
I'll wait until CM stable release, to see if stability/memory/CPU/bluetooth issues are solved... But I'm pretty sure nothing will ever equal a stock Nexus...
I'm actually really disappointed in the software aspect. The phone's touch is pretty bad after the 2.1.3 update of OxygenOS. The keyboard typing is extremely ****! I can't even type properly without having to repeatedly fix and retype the words. They need to fix this issue as its major. Instead of fixing bugs with updates... They just create new ones.
Kind of, just not happy with Sim slot
Well, I couldn't be more satisfied with this device.
Just one problem, they should've given a separate slot for memory card.
Earlier I used to use separate sims for Data and Calling, but now I have to move to single sim, and realized my operator's 3G network is very bad.
(P.S. Vodafone, Bangalore India)
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Fulbring said:
I'm actually really disappointed in the software aspect. The phone's touch is pretty bad after the 2.1.3 update of OxygenOS. The keyboard typing is extremely ****! I can't even type properly without having to repeatedly fix and retype the words. They need to fix this issue as its major. Instead of fixing bugs with updates... They just create new ones.
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I just upgraded, and after reading your comment, I realized it's true.
Facing some problem while typing. I think you might be right, I am also facing this problem.
No regret. I came from S3 mini so it's a new world for me
Also seems I'm a little bit lucky because no problem with latest update.
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No regret. I came from S3 mini so it's a new world for me
Also seems I'm a little bit lucky because no problem with latest update.
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Love it, no regrets. Replaced an s4.
Oxygen os, not so much, though.
Looks like it has also good development potential.
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My moto x pure is my daily driver. My opx is just sitting in the box debating on sending it back because of the enormous amount of complaints and issues being reported on this forum and OPs forum.
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Amazon took back my Moto x (2013) because it rebooted anytime it felt so and Motorola after sale care services failed to fix it (I am not sure they even care to try to fix it but that's another story).
When I bought the OPX I was fully aware that :
Camera was going to be bad
Autonomy was not going to be a strength
Storage was 16 go
It was not the most powerful newly released device
Still I went for it for many reason :
the size. My previous smartphone, 4,7" already felt a bit too big in my hands. I couldn't even imagine going for the 5,4" of the Moto Play and I didn't want the Moto X 2nd gen because the device is already a year old and I am pretty sure that if I were to have a problem with it i'd have the same kind of warranty than with my previous phone. I'd prefer my phone fixed than refunded.
I wanted a nice user experience, since Motorola provided an awesome one on Moto X. And OnePlus seemed to have put just what I was looking for in the OPX.
amoled screen
enough power for most of the things I like to do on a smartphone
headphone sound is pretty good
I didn't care about the design. I don't even like it it is nothing as ergonomic as my previous phone. And I don't care glass makes it look premium and stuff. I use cases.. But I admit the phone is eye-candy,
Since I have it I found out camera is really really bad, worse than my Moto X. So that you know. I won't blame anyone on that since as I said I knew it and anyway I have a nice canon camera that I 'd like to use
I don't use the sd card. I am happy with the 16Go so far so I don't know if it is really buggy or not but anyway OP seems to work on every bug people report so I am not worried.
So the only bug I found so far is that awful lag when you switch to and back from airplane / flight mode. It's a matter of seconds. 5? 7 maybe? But still really annoying.
I didn't update to 2.1.3 os version because too many people complained about it so everything is smooth on my phone. Even in the games I play. But I don't play heavy ones like asphalt. Though I tried hearthstone and it ran as smoothly as on my Moto X.
joho5 said:
I love the phone, but am in a weird situation.
I am in the minority where I had a chinese bootloader unlock screen...these phones are unable to flash twrp. The ability to flash custom roms is why I want this phone and what would make it great, but I am not able to do that. Hopefully a fix will be found.
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Is your phone running Hydrogen? Have you tried flashing stock OxygenOS - apparently you can do it over stock HydrogenOS without root etc; my Chinese OPX came with Oxygen preflashed and I was able to unlock the bootloader and install TWRP no worries.
I'm loving my OnePlus X, but it's not perfect. This is my first non-htc Android phone and I'm finding it better than my old m7 J One in many ways, but the camera is subpar and the battery life isn't great even with the dark theme.
Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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It's a great phone and is now easily rootable on both Lollipop or Marshmallow (depending on which it ships with). Custom TWRP recovery exists and that's helpful when flashing updates. There's a very solid stock ROM with various debloat, dedeox, etc variations to try from. Also a couple non stock ROMs like CM13 and Resurrection Remix that are WIP that are pretty close (working camera being the big gating item).
On the con side it's not the latest and greatest and the G5 of HTC 10 has better performance (at least in tests like Antutu). Also i wish there were more devs actively working on this phone....seems like its really only a couple folks and if they get bored and move on...
Anyway, that's my two cents. Hope it helps. Come join the fun.
A great device, had mine for less than two months now and for the current price it is hard to beat
This beat out the nexus 6p for me due to the removable battery and expandable storage
The second screen is a bit gimicky still, I can't find a reason to use it much other than for always on notifications
The two front facing cameras... well the could have stuck with just the wide angle and I would be happy. But rear shooter is still hard to beat by anything
Build quality is solid, screen is great, battery ain't so good but the fastest charger to date can't beat a battery swap
Other forums may have more development but this one is moving along nicely and with the smaller size feels closer (my big name phones always had way too many people to keep track)
I plan on holding on to it for two years, can't see a good reason not to.
Hope to see you around the forum!
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Yeah, what these guys said. I just got my V10 this month so only a couple weeks with it but I'm quite happy. Has all the features I require: swappable battery, SD card support, good camera with OIS, and fingerprint support. I love big screens and this certainly has it plus the second screen I find moderately useful though not a requirement. It's also built like a tank which is nice (but heavy). I don't see anything in the market that competes with the V10 if you have the same requirements as I do. I think the only thing that might get me jealous in 2016 is a V11. This one will likely last me several years, I think.
I am looking to buy the LG G5. Is it worth the buy?
You hear a lot of different story's (good and bad) about this phone.
I have no problems that some others have with build quality. The battery lasts me all day and the display is flawless, no gap in between the bottom battery plug and display.
I love the G5! The only thing I wish was that it has more development.
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I like it compared to my prev g3 and g4. I love the camera. Not fan of the modules so I didn't removed the bottom part.
I'm really bored because I have the unrootable H860 which making me think to move to oneplus 3 or xiaomi mi5.
I have the vs987 If you're lookin' to root, this isn't it!! UI had to be designed by a 6 year old with a half box of crayons!! Riddled with Verizon bloatware, and LG crapware, you can certainly do better then this disappointment!! Yes, it makes calls, txts, but so does a flip phone, and for a lot less $$, and a lot less bloat and crap ware!! I enjoy this phone so much, I'm purchasing a OP3!!
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I have the vs987 If you're lookin' to root, this isn't it!! UI had to be designed by a 6 year old with a half box of crayons!! Riddled with Verizon bloatware, and LG crapware, you can certainly do better then this disappointment!! Yes, it makes calls, txts, but so does a flip phone, and for a lot less $$, and a lot less bloat and crap ware!! I enjoy this phone so much, I'm purchasing a OP3!!
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Same thing here. OP3 or mi5?
I agree with the above Verizon user. Steer clear. This phones one good feature is the camera. And even then I've been having issues with it occasionally lagging with the shutter and not saving images. Otherwise bloated beyond belief. And battery drains itself by just existing. I've never had a phone with such terrible battery life right out of the box. And that's with good signals, force stopping apps, etc. Even in airplane mode the phone still drains itself.
Wait until the V20 comes out next month
Us carrier are really bad, i've a H850 Vodafone and the bloatware of the carrier is not too much.
And as far as i know every mobile phone sold by a us carrier is full of bloat, is not a G5 thing
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Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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The price and specs are great. The rom/root community is okay size. Build quality is trash. Don't buy this phone. With a little more money you could buy the One Plus 3T or One Plus 5. Better specs, build quality, rom/root, etc.
My next phone is Note 8 or One plus 3T or 5. I am not trying to bash phone. Just giving you an honest opinion. Look through the threads you will see tons of people with GPS, Backlight Bleed, bootloop issues, etc. I love LG, but will be my last LG phone for a long time.
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I'm looking to get the H850 for my mom since it is only $300CAD if I get my friend to bring it back from Hong Kong. Can't find any another phone in that price range that would be better than the LG G5 H850...
Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
I can't agree about bad quality of build. I would say its very good comparing to what else you can meet nowadays.
Other than that, it's one of the best phones available for 250$ on B&H (Titan) if not the only good one.
Yeah not sure about other countries, but in Canada it's hard to beat the LG G5. OnePlus 3T/5 are $600/$650CAD+tax respectively and the G5 can be found for $330-370 all in. Even 2016 mid-range phones like the Axon 7 and Honor 8 are $400-$500+tax.
Build quality isn't up to par with other flagships, but it's not terrible IMO. At least it's better than most mid-range phones.
It is a lottery phone.
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It is a lottery phone.
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I would have to agree with this statement.
Build quality is pretty bad guys sorry. I've had plenty of low/Mid/High end of phones. I've never seen this many issues as this one. When I see GPS and backlight bleed threads filled with countless complaints. Yeah that's bad build quality.
Damiloveu statement pretty much sums it up right it's a lottery phone. 50/50 hit or miss, be for warned potential new g5 buyers. GREAT phone if no issues. And if it does have problems many headaches await you.
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dimon222 said:
Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
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I would install Fulmics on the LG G5 if I can get it for my mom, so the RS988 is out of the question for me. I just cannot buy phones if I cannot install custom ROMs on it. I hate being at the mercy of manufacturers for software updates.
I'm so confused as to why manufacturers cannot just sell one or two variant of the same phone. Making dozens of variants seems so stupid.
coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
Thanks a lot, everybody. I think I'll get this phone, it features literally *every* feature I need on a device.
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coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
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I got a used AT&T H820 and it had the GPS issue, especially worse when cloudy and rainy. However, I returned the AT&T one and got an unlocked RS988 and I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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If you need a hot swappable battery, the G5 is great.
If you game a lot, and want the ability to do so without remaining plugged in and burning up your phone, then the G5 is perfect for you.
As far as performance, no issues whatsoever.
Battery life is average, but with the ability to swap out new batteries and charge dead ones outside the phone in a charging port, you honestly don't have battery downtime. It's just always up.
That's the biggest advantage of this phone.
If you're looking for a better deal, you don't need unlimited battery life, or you're looking for a rich featureset, I would look elsewhere.
The gps is absolute wank and I don't have the time or inclination to do a hardware fix. I did a quick comparison with my friend who owns an OP3 indoors; his had gps lock with 15 seconds but mine was still searching after several minutes. In fact, I have almost missed turnings when driving a few times because of this POS. I never replace my phone until it has had 18 months usage but for the G5, I will make an exception.
I have LG G5 since April 2016 after my Note 3 : no root or anything, LG updates regulary.
I never have problems with it.
-No bootloop, no GPS bugs, a better reception with the same carrier...
-Camera is really good, especially the large wide-angle.
-Battery life: a day with a little use (waze to go work -one hour/day) wifi on, "always on display" always activate, some internet at evening : Facebook, Twitter, insta, mails...
-IR for soundbar, tv is really good !!
But no SPen ? So I will get the Note 8, really great for work, with the camera options easier than LG suit.
And finally, i prefer Samsung environment, even if G5 is really a good phone.
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It's not worth the broken GPS sensors which are a known hardware defect. They'll fix it for you, but it's never the root of the problem so it will come back. I've sent mine in 3 times, GPS works for a couple days, then ceases to work again. Terrible quality control, by far the worst phone I've owned. My Galaxy S4 was better.
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
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well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
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Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
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Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
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yeep, my biggest regret were i didnt read much about lg g5, infact i read too many about it so i skip the most important things. from what i gather around the web, g5 has 2 version. G5 and g5 SE. the g5 has snap820, 4gb ram and single sim, while g5 SE had snap 625, 3GB ram and dualsim. i use 2 simcard one for main use and another for data connection. and h860 has both advantages from 2 g5 version, snap 820/4gb ram and Dualsim support. i didnt bother to check on XDA for root method as i though it just the same as samsung or HTC, even with many varian usually all of them has the same exploit. i never though i would be so wrong on my life . and for the HTC part, well what can i say, here in indonesia we didnt have official HTC service centre so if we had a malfunction devices we just need to fix it on our own . same goes to LG G5 since the only one that they sold here were g5 SE, some friend of mine already bought g5 from singapore last year and when his screen broke he sent it to LG centre but they refuse it, they said the only accept g5 SE. so i'm totally aware when i bought those devices, i cant rely on warranty or official services. and its not the first time, usually lot of devices which sold here were downgraded version comparing to international one. like
note 3 on international version they had snap801 and lte support while official one the had stupid exynoss and 3g only. same goes with Note 5 snapdragon inter vs exynoss local, and also xiaomi devices, huawei, and many other brands which i dont remember anymore. thats why, many people here usually bought new/second hand devices from another country because they want to feel the real experience while also acknowledge they cant bring it to official service centre when it broke later.
Hell no.
My LG G4 is dying.
I need a Verizon based phone to work with the Verizon MVNO I contract air access from.
How does the MotoZ vzw version handle unlocked bootloader? Is it possible?
I'm real keen on custom rom usage, whats the best custom roms available for the moto Z?
Any cons I should be made aware of?
What type of sim card ? ie: nano....................
I am done with the Asian phone manufacturers, unfortunately I have had bad experience with HTC and now LG.
Paid flagship prices for crap, sorry to say. My most favored phone was a motorola flip phone, maybe I return to motorola.
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Motorola = Lenovo = Chinese [emoji6]
I've had the MotoZ after the LG G4. Only short time. Since one year on Galaxy S8 and happy. Maybe a LG V30 as alternative?
I cannot say anything about a Verizon phone since I have no clue if they "tainted" the Moto Z too, making it different from global variants.
As for simply being worth it:
If you are paying less than 450$, it's definitely worth it.
The phone is snappy, hysterically thin for a phone ( it's as thick as an iPhone when you put a bulky case on it, otherwise it's only 5.2mm thick ), has a good camera, a great display and you will love the UI if you're a fan of stock Android.
However, if you can pay more than 450$, consider something like a Oneplus 5.
Battery is AWFUL. The phone is mostly smooth but if you use it for prolonged periods, it heats up and then starts lagging due to throttling.
Camera is reasonable at most but the camera lens get scratched easily, so the image quality could degrade over time.
Mods are funny at some point but are extremely expensive and there are chaper alternatives that work on any device, not being necessary to have a Z phone to use them.
Fingerprint scanner works but it's not the fastest and misses sometimes, and it get's really annoying when you have to try 4 or 5 times to unlock it.
Motorola has abandoned this phone, which hasn't received a security update since December and god knows when it'll get Oreo, and even worse, god knows what sort of bugs Lenovo interns will give us when Oreo finally arrives.
Doesn't have a headphone jack.
My particular unit developed severe burn-in after only 7 months of usage, but every display is different, so your mileage may vary.
Phone is so thin that it's unconfortable to hold without a mod attatched or a case, which is a bummer because the phone is good looking without anything on it. Also slippery as hell.
There are not many developers for the Moto Z, so there isn't many custom roms available compared to Samsung or even Sony. There are some unofficial builds from big projects like Lineage but there are some bugs here and there.
So, take it with a grain of salt because this is my experience, but beware because I'm not the only one reporting those issues. Just check out Lenovo forums and see how many battery drain topics are there, which got even worse after the 7.1.1 update.
Forget those awesome flip phones Motorola once built, because that company is dead. Motorola is just a brand name now, everything is Lenovo. When you boot the Moto Z there is a big ass Lenovo logo so you don't forget it. If I were you, I would go for the OnePlus 5 . Your experience may be worse with Motorola.
The phone uses nano sim though.
Moto Z= bored device + screen burn + ugly battery life
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One plus is an Asian brand too xD
Z2 Play or bust
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maybe I return to motorola.
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Don't. Battery life is awful, and Motorola does not support this device any more.
Mine got broken (bluetooth died), I sent it to Motorola for repair three months ago, and they refuse to fix or refund it, despite still being under warranty.
I see a lot of salty people here.
I've had my Moto Z since October 2017. I upgraded from Nexus 5x, which got bootloop. Is it worth it?
That depends on the price. I've got mine for 350$ and I'm pretty satisfied. The battery is similar to the one I've had in 5x (needs a recharge at the end of the day). However, with Incipio power pack it lasts a full day of heavy use.
No burn-ins whatsoever.
It was lagging a little bit at the beginning, but now its really snappy, miles better than my crap Nexus. I've played Vice City quite a lot and no major throttling issues happened to me (maybe some fps drops once a while, but it's not something drastic).
Motorola still supports this phone. Fast updates are long gone from the Google days, but they're still pretty average.
I really like this phone, but if I were you I would wait a little bit more for the Nokia 7 Plus. 2018 version looks amazing.
And stay away from any LG. They can't fix bootloop problems since G4. G6 and V30 are too young to judge if they're fine. They still may bootloop in the near future.
I forgot to add: Fingerprint sucks. Nexus 5x was better in that term.