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Hi guys, I've had my Mi5 for almost a week and have been using it non-stop as my daily. Here's my full review video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SQCJNFdtE It covers everything from the build, camera, benchmarks, GPS, charging time and gaming.
Overall it's not a bad phone considering the price and the power Snapdragon 820 you get. A premium build and one of the better 1080p screens I've seen. But it's ultimately let down with a disappointing camera. Doesn't live up to 4 Axis & Xiaomi marketing hype machine. 4k video is full of artifacts and the focus is all over the place at times.
Still gaming it will play everything at 60 fps, super smooth and the battery can give over 7 hours of OST. I do like the size build and feel of it.
Pros:
Very good at benchmarks
Super smooth gaming
Doesn't seem to throttle or get too hot.
Preium build quality
Excellent audio output, both 3.5mm and loudspeaker.
Cheap for a Snapdragon 820 mobile
Great front camera in good light*
One of the better 1080p screens I've seen. Super bright at 565 nits max brightness. (Not quite the claimed 600 nits)
Cons:
GPS performance is quite poor for a flagship. Won't lock on and use GLONASS sats
The camera is disappointing. Not up to flagship spec when recording video
Camera struggles with focus at times and in low light
Front camera drops frames in low light and video is choppy due to this
Very slippery build. I have almost dropped it countless times (Skin or case needed)
Camera samples:
4k Video samples:
Not maasively fussed on camera performance tbh.
Other points are valid. Although not 100% on build quality just yet. The left side of my rear case is ever so slightly raised off the front and it's bothering me.
It's a lonnnnng trip back to China for a replacement!
Here's a clip of the Mi5 running Antutu 6 Vs my Galaxy S7 Edge and Redmi Note 3 Pro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-UhVrlMCDQ
It gets close to 140,000 points which is very decent.
Hey, what kernel version does the mi5 use eg 3.10, 3.16, 3.18?
Thanks
I've been hugely disappointed with the Mi5. I got it the day after release and it just hasn't felt right. I came from a Mi Note, which has probably been the best phone I've ever had. Perfect size in my opinion and everything works perfect.
The Mi5 has a strange size and the even more curved/rounded back just doesn't feel good in the hand. It's far too curved. It should have been more like the Mi Note. I don't feel comfortable holding it without a grippier case.
Despite the Mi Note having a Snapdragon 801, the SD 820, in my opinion doesn't offer a huge difference in speed and normal everyday tasks like browsing, reading news, listening to music and watching videos and the odd game.
The finger print sensor is ok, but I think the round sensor on the Redmi Note 3 is superior. It looks ugly on the Mi5 I think.
The camera is speedy, yes. But so was the Mi Note camera. The quality is not noticeable in my eyes. And the 4 axis OIS is just a big gimmick.
Haven't been this disappointed with a phone since I last used an iPhone haha.
Im always using a silicone case with my phones.. GPS is fast i cant complain here.
The camera is very good in Daylight, bad at dark places.. i tried to adjust with manual settings but so far not really successful.
Samsung and LG has longer experiences in building Cameras or Mobile Phones, so don`t expect too much in Dark places.
But one thing i like, is the price-value in Xiaomi devices which is good.
Xiaomi mi5 is it new make?
Xiaomi has created U.S. wait AN awfully lasting for a successor to the Mi four, and, thankfully, we've got not been saddened. The Mi five offers a chic and applied science unibody style and guarantees high performance, due to its flower 820 processor and Adreno GPU.
Marshmallow, along side Xiaomi’s MIUI interface, ensures a high degree of customization choices. The fingerprint scanner and NFC are each valuable additions, enhancing user expertise.
The device’s processor, battery and camera, on paper, area unit promising, and a radical check within the close to future can ensure the extent of the Mi 5’s talents. I would like to say its looming Android Smartphones in India
Hendrickson said:
Hi guys, I've had my Mi5 for almost a week and have been using it non-stop as my daily. Here's my full review video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SQCJNFdtE It covers everything from the build, camera, benchmarks, GPS, charging time and gaming.
Overall it's not a bad phone considering the price and the power Snapdragon 820 you get. A premium build and one of the better 1080p screens I've seen. But it's ultimately let down with a disappointing camera. Doesn't live up to 4 Axis & Xiaomi marketing hype machine. 4k video is full of artifacts and the focus is all over the place at times.
Still gaming it will play everything at 60 fps, super smooth and the battery can give over 7 hours of OST. I do like the size build and feel of it.
Pros:
Very good at benchmarks
Super smooth gaming
Doesn't seem to throttle or get too hot.
Preium build quality
Excellent audio output, both 3.5mm and loudspeaker.
Cheap for a Snapdragon 820 mobile
Great front camera in good light*
One of the better 1080p screens I've seen. Super bright at 565 nits max brightness. (Not quite the claimed 600 nits)
Cons:
GPS performance is quite poor for a flagship. Won't lock on and use GLONASS sats
The camera is disappointing. Not up to flagship spec when recording video
Camera struggles with focus at times and in low light
Front camera drops frames in low light and video is choppy due to this
Very slippery build. I have almost dropped it countless times (Skin or case needed)
Camera samples:
4k Video samples:
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Which xiaomi mi5 you have? 32 or 64?
tango007 said:
Xiaomi has created U.S. wait AN awfully lasting for a successor to the Mi four, and, thankfully, we've got not been saddened. The Mi five offers a chic and applied science unibody style and guarantees high performance, due to its flower 820 processor and Adreno GPU.
Marshmallow, along side Xiaomi’s MIUI interface, ensures a high degree of customization choices. The fingerprint scanner and NFC are each valuable additions, enhancing user expertise.
The device’s processor, battery and camera, on paper, area unit promising, and a radical check within the close to future can ensure the extent of the Mi 5’s talents. I would like to say its looming Android Smartphones in India
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Thanks for good description!
I'm looking forward to switch from S6 Edge to the Mi5, because I started to hate Samsung (mainly because of their software)...
Termynat0r said:
I'm looking forward to switch from S6 Edge to the Mi5, because I started to hate Samsung (mainly because of their software)...
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The camera on the Mi 5 won't be as good as the S6! (Not saying it is bad on the Mi 5. Just prepare yourself)
Why this: Samsung puts pretty nice cameras in phones and has good software behind it. It's hard to challenge Samsungs position in this matter. (For most brands.)
TheUltrametricSpace said:
The camera on the Mi 5 won't be as good as the S6! (Not saying it is bad on the Mi 5. Just prepare yourself)
Why this: Samsung puts pretty nice cameras in phones and has good software behind it. It's hard to challenge Samsungs position in this matter. (For most brands.)
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Yeah I just thought so. But I fortunately don't feel myself beeing a hobby photographer, so it's an issue I can deal with.
Either way Xiaomi will surely release some updates to the Mi5 camera as the OIS has some pretty big bugs.
And because the Mi5 is much cheaper, I can tinker with it. I will most likely try to fit a QI receiver inside on the 1st day (and post the results).
Termynat0r said:
Yeah I just thought so. But I fortunately don't feel myself beeing a hobby photographer, so it's an issue I can deal with.
Either way Xiaomi will surely release some updates to the Mi5 camera as the OIS has some pretty big bugs.
And because the Mi5 is much cheaper, I can tinker with it. I will most likely try to fit a QI receiver inside on the 1st day (and post the results).
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I have just received my mi5 having come from an s6. I havent done a comparison of the camera just yet but initial shots look very good on the mi5. Again I am no photographer so just casual snaps, which are fine on the mi5.
skoobee said:
I have just received my mi5 having come from an s6. I havent done a comparison of the camera just yet but initial shots look very good on the mi5. Again I am no photographer so just casual snaps, which are fine on the mi5.
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Thanks skoobee. If you can post a couple of low light shots of the two devices, I'll be very grateful.
Apparently gsmarena, unlike every other reviewer, has found a very mature camera performance.
I will try and do that in the next day or two. I have to say I am extremely impressed with the mi5. I was a little worried about signal strength in my house as on the s6 is very very poor and I have to use Wi-Fi calling. With the mi5 I can't use Wi-Fi calling but I don't need to. The signal is about twice that of the s6 but the clarity is so much better is unbelievable (even better than s6 on Wi-Fi calling)
kevin_23 said:
Which xiaomi mi5 you have? 32 or 64?
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seems good quality video!
I've had no issues at all with 4K video, smooth and jitter free...
And my girlfriend who has been using an S6 for over a year immediately found the Mi 5 camera far superior.
1080p display.... a bit disappointing.,...
I don't see 1080p as a negative. The DPI is 400+, is probably higher than the human eye can see anyway, and higher PPI is sacrificed for better battery life. I find it a bit PPI and mpixel chased a bit strange, especially when our computer monitor 24"+ is typically 1080p. I prefer thing such as quick charge 3.0 and usb c type as the most important things. Coming from HTC - king of bloatware that can't be removed without root, I am looking forward to sleek a Xiaomi
The New ZTE Axon 9 Pro! Global/China
What do you think of the new design and specs?
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ZTE Axon 9 Pro(A2019-Pro) SpecificationsDisplay6.21-inch AMOLED Notch full screen, 18.7:9, FHD+ (1080×2248), HDR 10
SOC+GPU
Qualcomm snapdragon 845 (SDM845), Kryo 385 eight-core: 4 × 2.649GHz + 4 × 1.7GHz , 10nm process
RAM+Storage
6GB RAM + 64GB ROM
8GB RAM + 256GB ROM
2TB external Micro SD card compatible
Front camera
20MP, smart beauty, face unlock, f/2.0
Rear camera
12MP, 1.4um, optical image stabilization, dual pixel focus, f/1.75 + 20MP 130 degree wide wide angle
Audio
Dual stereo speakers, Dolby Atmos HiFi;
Battery
4000mAh, QC4.0 fast charge, support wireless charging
Network
TDD-LTE: B34/38/39/40/41 (100MHz);
FDD-LTE: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/18/19/20/25 /26/28/32;
TD-SCDMA: B34/39;
WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/8;
CDMA 1X/EVDO: BC0/1/10;
GSM: B2/3/5/8
Wireless connection
802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2.4/5GHz, support 2×2 MIMO; Bluetooth 5.0;
GPS
GPS/A-GPS/Beidou/GLONASS/Galileo
System Platform
MiFavor 6.0 (based on Android 8.0)
Interface
USB Type-C, nano SIM card + nano SIM card / Micro SD card three choice two
Sensors
Gravitational acceleration, light / close, an electronic compass, a gyroscope, a hall, the RGB color temperature sensor;
positioning;
Safety
Built-in independent encryption chip, can be customized to support dual system, the NFC identification card; IP68 protection level; Other professional image processing chip; back fingerprint
Dimensions
156.5 × 74.5 × 7.9mm
ZTE Axon 9 Pro(A2019G-Pro) SpecificationsDisplay
6.21-inch AMOLED
2,248 x 1,080 resolution
18.7:9 aspect ratio
SoC
10nm, 64-bit, octa-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 845
GPU
Adreno 630
RAM
6GB
Storage
128GB UFS 2.1
Non-expandable
Cameras
Rear:
Main camera: 12MP sensor, f/1.75 aperture, 1.4 micron pixels, OIS
Secondary camera: 20MP super wide-angle sensor (130 degree field of view)
Front: 20MP sensor
Audio
Stereo speakers, surround sound with Dolby Atmos technology
No headphone jack
Surround sound recording with three microphones
Battery
4,000mAh battery
Non-removable
Wireless charging
IP rating
IP68
Connectivity
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (2.4/5GHz)
2x2 MIMO
Bluetooth 5.0
USB Type-C
NFC
Location: GPS, Galileo, Glonass, BeiDou
SIM
Single nano-SIM
Software
Android 8.1 Oreo with ZTE "Stock plus"
Dimensions
156.5 x 74.5 x 7.9mm
Here is some real proof of the anticipated voyage!
Links for grabs:
Engaget gets hands on with video and specs
https://www.engadget.com/2018/08/30/zte-axon-9-pro-hands-on/
Chinese news forum proof
http://www.myzte.cn/thread-353357-1-1.html
Courtesy of Pocketnow
https://pocketnow.com/zte-axon-9-ifa-2018
Phone Arena
Leaked Ad! Hope not?!
https://www.phonearena.com/news/zte-axon-9-pro-ifa-announcement-official-product-image_id108031
More info to come as it goes further...
No headphone jack, no DAC, no front speakers, ugly generic design. No thanks. If this is true, then I'm not buying the new line of Axons. I'm sticking with my 7 until it dies, unless these leaks are a lie and has all of the above, and buying the new oneplus lineup
All is OK, but rear speakers!
Blue color is ugly.
Teet1 said:
No headphone jack, no DAC, no front speakers, ugly generic design. No thanks. If this is true, then I'm not buying the new line of Axons. I'm sticking with my 7 until it dies, unless these leaks are a lie and has all of the above, and buying the new oneplus lineup
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Where did you get the 'no headphone jack, no DAC' part? They don't say anything about that. I don't believe they will abandon those two since every Axon (not sure about the C2017, but all of the others, Axon, Axon Pro, and all of those) had the AK4490.
I've read from different pages and they don't mention a thing about audio.
Besides that, there is one thing that I love about the design. The S8, OP5T, Mate 10 pro, they all have that useless chin below, and they just add on-screen buttons. The perfect solution is either an IPhone-like screen and navbar buttons below (like an upside-down Mi Mix) or capacitive buttons on the chin just like this one (Or at least the fingerprint sensor there, like the regular Mate 10, then add fingerprint gestures).
What would we get first Oreo or the axon 9 ?
???
Rear speakers kill the best of axon line, if it's real, except the processor, for me, axon 7 is still better
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What would we get first Oreo or the axon 9 ?
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the ETA is April, so Oreo. Plus the A2017 already has Oreo.
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Where did you get the 'no headphone jack, no DAC' part? They don't say anything about that. I don't believe they will abandon those two since every Axon (not sure about the C2017, but all of the others, Axon, Axon Pro, and all of those) had the AK4490.
I've read from different pages and they don't mention a thing about audio.
Besides that, there is one thing that I love about the design. The S8, OP5T, Mate 10 pro, they all have that useless chin below, and they just add on-screen buttons. The perfect solution is either an IPhone-like screen and navbar buttons below (like an upside-down Mi Mix) or capacitive buttons on the chin just like this one (Or at least the fingerprint sensor there, like the regular Mate 10, then add fingerprint gestures).
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The renders lack a headphone jack it seems, andl especially because of the screen. No headphone jack, no DAC
Teet1 said:
The renders lack a headphone jack it seems, andl especially because of the screen. No headphone jack, no DAC
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I see a very tiny imperfection on the top of the phone. Look carefully there.
Plus many bezel-less phones have a headphone jack. take the s8/s9/note8 for example. i think the OP5T also has one. Apple said it was to get more space but in reality I don't think you have a lack of space on a 6" device
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I see a very tiny imperfection on the top of the phone. Look carefully there.
Plus many bezel-less phones have a headphone jack. take the s8/s9/note8 for example. i think the OP5T also has one. Apple said it was to get more space but in reality I don't think you have a lack of space on a 6" device
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That looks too small for a headphone jack doesn't it? Very low quality pictures though...I think it might be a mic hole. If it's not up there, then I hope it's at the bottom. I just hope it doesn't have the speakers at the back side. Everything else is fine but it doesnt have the things that made the Axon 7 popular in the first place. I even remember taking a survey provided by ZTE from Newegg where I bought the phone about a few months asking me what I would want to find in a new Axon phone. A lot of the questions asked about the speakers and audio.
It makes me believe it's either some other phone in the Axon line, since the CEO mentioned there will be three Axon tiers. Tier A, B and C and maybe this could be that "midrange B" tier .
Then that makes the one with speakers, headphone jack, and a DAC the flagship Tier A pricing over $600 to $700
Which just doesn't make sense from a company like ZTE when there are so many over marketed phones in that price range like the Galaxies, people will choose those over this one simply because of how many people are familiar with a company like Samsung or even a Google device like the Pixel lines.
Teet1 said:
That looks too small for a headphone jack doesn't it? Very low quality pictures though...I think it might be a mic hole. If it's not up there, then I hope it's at the bottom. I just hope it doesn't have the speakers at the back side. Everything else is fine but it doesnt have the things that made the Axon 7 popular in the first place. I even remember taking a survey provided by ZTE from Newegg where I bought the phone about a few months asking me what I would want to find in a new Axon phone. A lot of the questions asked about the speakers and audio.
It makes me believe it's either some other phone in the Axon line, since the CEO mentioned there will be three Axon tiers. Tier A, B and C and maybe this could be that "midrange B" tier .
Then that makes the one with speakers, headphone jack, and a DAC the flagship Tier A pricing over $600 to $700
Which just doesn't make sense from a company like ZTE when there are so many over marketed phones in that price range like the Galaxies, people will choose those over this one simply because of how many people are familiar with a company like Samsung or even a Google device like the Pixel lines.
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It's not small at all. Notice how the whole side of the phone has a frame. Our phone has a very rounded back, that's why it's so noticeable in the axon 7. But that phone has a frame, so the jack is much less noticeable. just look at it some time and you'll see that it has just the right size to be a 3.5mm jack.
They may have gotten rid of the front firing speakers. I personally don't care, I bought it for everything else - if it came out with a reasonable price (say, $500 - 550) i wouldn't think twice.
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It's not small at all. Notice how the whole side of the phone has a frame. Our phone has a very rounded back, that's why it's so noticeable in the axon 7. But that phone has a frame, so the jack is much less noticeable. just look at it some time and you'll see that it has just the right size to be a 3.5mm jack.
They may have gotten rid of the front firing speakers. I personally don't care, I bought it for everything else - if it came out with a reasonable price (say, $500 - 550) i wouldn't think twice.
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You might be right, but time will tell. Hopefully soon more leaks come or they'll announce it. I like the front speakers, but if the price range is say more than 500-600, i may as well get another better phone with that price range. I'm picky, it must have front speakers for me I take advantage of them all the time.
I honestly hope they don't omit, what was in most people's opinion, the best part of the Axon 7: incredible front facing speakers. If they fail to include them they are going to lose a huge part of the Axon following. I definitely won't be buying it without them.
I would like to see a desing with no hardware buttons, and a bigger screen :3
I too bought the Axon 7 for the front facing stereo speakers alone. Without them I might as well have bought a OnePlus phone. I'd rather have some sort of gesture-based navigation system (like on the iPhone X or like OnePlus is experimenting with) than losing the stereo speakers...
Don't know whether this info is right or not but some sites confirm a 3.5mm jack...
https://www.gsmarena.com/zte_axon_9-9069.php
https://www.pdevice.com/product/zte-axon-9-price-specs
Axon 9 without anything from Axon 7 (except amoled), it will fail! I am lucky to have Axon 7! =)
I'm a huge fan of the front stereo speakers. It was one of my main attractions to the Axon 7. Not sure about this new one.
And even though it's pretty cool that the fingerprint ready is under the display, I personally like the placement on the back. I can unlock it with only one hand when it's on the back, rather than one hand holding the phone and the other to unlock.
Ugh, this doesn't look like an upgrade at all. It's a completely different phone. They might as well give this a different name all together. I mean, it looks very nice and all, don't get me wrong. But to me, an Axon is all about the speakers and sound! If this is truly the next Axon I am very disappointed.
HallOfPromise said:
I'm a huge fan of the front stereo speakers. It was one of my main attractions to the Axon 7. Not sure about this new one.
And even though it's pretty cool that the fingerprint ready is under the display, I personally like the placement on the back. I can unlock it with only one hand when it's on the back, rather than one hand holding the phone and the other to unlock.
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I agree with a lot of this:
The fingerprint scanner placement on the Axon 7 is perfect - my index finger goes right there automatically and I like unlocking with one hand.
The audio capabilities were a big deal to me, both the relatively loud front-facing speakers and the good DAC. And I require a headphone jack (and microSD).
The price was also a big factor for me - $350 (6 mo. or so after launch) vs $500+ for most comparable phones.
If the Axon 9 changes these things, I see little reason for me to buy it, even though I've been very happy with my first ZTE device. I'll stick with my Axon 7 for a while longer, and upgrade to something that fits my preferences better when the time comes. Not a deal breaker for me, but the Axon 9 pics I've seen make it look generic and kind of cheap.
Slimmer bezels are always a good idea, but I'd rather keep the 5.5" screen and make the casing smaller than keep the same size casing and grow the screen to fit it. That would allow me to use the phone much more comfortably with one hand
I don't see anything in that article that is written in stone. The images are so low res that they could be a total computer generated mock up and even if the leaked specs are correct, they are very vague at best. Although would be very interesting to have an under-screen fingerprint scanner!
One thing I have learned over the years is to take all mobile phone leaks with a massive pinch of salt. Best bet... just wait and see! April is not far away and besides, we still have one, if not thee best bang for buck smartphone on the market even after being released 2016. All the big smartphone manufacturers would have EOL'ed a device by now but not ZTE.
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Hi everyone!
Iam looking for a new device because my OP3 battery is not the best anymore.
At the moment iam using my OP3 (not T) with MIUI9.
Do you think the Honour 10 is a good new phone when you compare it with the OP3 ?
And if yes / no, then why?
I hope you guys can help me thx!
DerSky1 said:
Hi everyone!
Iam looking for a new device because my OP3 battery is not the best anymore.
At the moment iam using my OP3 (not T) with MIUI9.
Do you think the Honour 10 is a good new phone when you compare it with the OP3 ?
And if yes / no, then why?
I hope you guys can help me thx!
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Honor 10 is definitely more powerful than OP3/3T and equal to S8 /S8+
It has process equal to SD835 and better specs.
"Apart from having an amazing camera, AI 2.0 also gave it an intelligent touch with:
- Bokeh in selfie mode
- Detailed imaging
- 3D facial recognition
- Correcting optical distortion
- AI improved facial lighting for consistency
DerSky1 said:
Hi everyone!
Iam looking for a new device because my OP3 battery is not the best anymore.
At the moment iam using my OP3 (not T) with MIUI9.
Do you think the Honour 10 is a good new phone when you compare it with the OP3 ?
And if yes / no, then why?
I hope you guys can help me thx!
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It is definately a pretty good phone in every term than OP3..
miststudent2011 said:
Honor 10 is definitely more powerful than OP3/3T and equal to S8 /S8+
It has process equal to SD835 and better specs.
"Apart from having an amazing camera, AI 2.0 also gave it an intelligent touch with:
- Bokeh in selfie mode
- Detailed imaging
- 3D facial recognition
- Correcting optical distortion
- AI improved facial lighting for consistency
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It is definately a pretty good phone in every term than OP3..
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thx for your answers, i think today about it and then i will maybe buy it
Do you guys know something about the battery? My OP3 has a 3100mAh battery and i know the H10 has a 3400mAh .
My on screen time was in constant use max ~4-5 Hours, how is this with the H10?
DerSky1 said:
thx for your answers, i think today about it and then i will maybe buy it
Do you guys know something about the battery? My OP3 has a 3100mAh battery and i know the H10 has a 3400mAh .
My on screen time was in constant use max ~4-5 Hours, how is this with the H10?
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Kirin processors has good battery optimizations. In built power manger regulates most of the background activity and gives good battery life.
I havent used it for that long will let you know in a couple of days if you want .
miststudent2011 said:
Kirin processors has good battery optimizations. In built power manger regulates most of the background activity and gives good battery life.
I havent used it for that long will let you know in a couple of days if you want .
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This would be awesome ! At the moment its difficult to decide if its better to buy the Honour 10 or OP6 ...
DerSky1 said:
This would be awesome ! At the moment its difficult to decide if its better to buy the Honour 10 or OP6 ...
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It depends on what are your daily requirements and usage.
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It depends on what are your daily requirements and usage.
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I use it often for whatsapp, snapchat, instagram, internet, twitter and maybe news apps. Sometimes the Screen is longer on for reading PDFs or watching videos.
I wanna have a smartphone, which can be used from the morning to the night and makes also photos with a nice quality and also videos with a nice quality.
64gb are enough for myself. But the design also count - the Honour has a really nice blue (or green - i dont saw this yet) color for 400€ and the OP6 has only the midnight black edition for 513€, but you can send your old smartphone to OP and they give you a ~100€ voucher for ur OP3 so the price is very similar
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....for 400€ and the OP6 has only the midnight black edition for 513€, but you can send your old smartphone to OP and they give you a ~100€ voucher for ur OP3 so the price is very similar ...............
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I use it often for whatsapp, snapchat, instagram, internet, twitter and maybe news apps. Sometimes the Screen is longer on for reading PDFs or watching videos.
I wanna have a smartphone, which can be used from the morning to the night and makes also photos with a nice quality and also videos with a nice quality.
>For both I go for Honor as it has good battery optimization and New AI camera with NPU.
64gb are enough for myself. But the design also count - the Honour has a really nice blue (or green - i dont saw this yet) color
>Its base variant has 64GB and it has really nice 4 color variants.
Depens on what you Are looking For.
The oneplus 6 has better battery life thanks to both a more efficient screen and a more power efficient Snapdragon 845 SOC. It is also noticeably faster than the honor 10.
The advantages of the honor 10 are that it has a slightly better camera, a flicker free screen and is significantly cheaper. It is also a bit more compact, which makes it easier to operate with nearly one hand.
Snapdragon is not efficient as 835 , 845 is just overclocked 835 with ai so battery on honor 10 will be around 20% more than op 6 and there is €150 difference in price
Honor and huawei sadly dont have good video quality. The low bitrate results in the videos looking like a poorly converted youtube video. only 4K is good but looks like 1080p compared to my old s8.
If you value battery life above that i would recommend the honor View10 (V10). It has a larger battery 3750mAh and similar specs. Does not look as flashy and has not the latest AI features but i dont think they make a big difference anyways. It is basically automatic scene detection, boosting pics to be instagram ready.
hands down, 100% yes. The OnePlus 3 is 2 years old . Honor 10 has better cameras, features and flagship specs.
DerSky1 said:
Hi everyone!
Iam looking for a new device because my OP3 battery is not the best anymore.
At the moment iam using my OP3 (not T) with MIUI9.
Do you think the Honour 10 is a good new phone when you compare it with the OP3 ?
And if yes / no, then why?
I hope you guys can help me thx!
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Yes, On Youtube, there are many Huawei Honor 10 VS OnePlus 5T videos, and the conclusion is that the two phones have similar performance, so Honor 10 is better than OnePlus 3.
Hello! I own an Honor 8 and a OnePlus 3.
I was looking for a new smartphone: I took into consideration various models, including
- Oneplus 5, 5T, 6
- but also Xiaomi Mi MIx 2e 2s, Mi Note 3
- Motorola Moto X4
- and some Sony Xperia (XZ1 in particular).
In the end this morning I ordered an Honor 10 on amazon at 312 euros: I made a good purchase?
I was looking for a smooth smartphone, with a good camera (lots of point and shoot photos, no video), nice display and maybe good speaker sound.
I like android stock but I noticed that on Honor 8 with Rootless Pixel Launcher and an Androdi P them I like how my honor looks like.
dunno about OP3, but downs of Honor 10 are:
- basically missing notification LED (what they included it's joke)
- no microSD
- no EIS/OIS
- battery life not very exciting about 6-8hrs on WiFi only
- fingerprint reader can be kinda meh sometimes
- single/mono speaker, also could be louder and same jack output
- EMUI lacking customization (for instance extremely small status bar icons/clock and not customizable design of these icons, no built in edge gestures)
- screen edge detection of mistouches it's pretty poor (hopefully fixed with case?)
- rear camera not flush with surface and very slippery back (both should be possible to fix ith case hopefully)
PeterMarkoff said:
dunno about OP3, but downs of Honor 10 are:
- basically missing notification LED (what they included it's joke)
- no microSD
- no EIS/OIS
- battery life not very exciting about 6-8hrs on WiFi only
- fingerprint reader can be kinda meh sometimes
- single/mono speaker, also could be louder and same jack output
- EMUI lacking customization (for instance extremely small status bar icons/clock and not customizable design of these icons, no built in edge gestures)
- screen edge detection of mistouches it's pretty poor (hopefully fixed with case?)
- rear camera not flush with surface and very slippery back (both should be possible to fix ith case hopefully)
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Wait a minute...what do you mean for "missing notification LED" ???
How does it work what is in the Honor 10??
What about this feature in the Honor View 10???? Same stuff??
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Wait a minute...what do you mean for "missing notification LED" ???
How does it work what is in the Honor 10??
What about this feature in the Honor View 10???? Same stuff??
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officilly there is notification LED but due to its size it's useless since you cant really see it
Hey everyone. Poco f1 has been a revolutionary smartphone. Judging by Flipkart's offer, the F2 is around the corner. Tell me ur expectations. What would you like to see differently in the 2nd gen poco??
Personally, I would like to see
> An Amoled display( A differentiating feature between flagships and killer. So an Amoled panel is a must to bring it to terms with other phones)
> No notch or dew drop notch( I think the ir face unlock can be skipped, I'll even take big bezels instead of the notch)
> A 5000mah battery( a bit greedy but it makes sense for a phone which is going to come with SD 855 and liquid cooling. Big battery. Longer gaming sessions.)
> Finally an aggressive price tag like the F1. 25k would be the sweet spot considering a newer chip and a switch to amoled.
Very excited for F2's launch. So what do u guys think??
NFC + amoled
I think nfc is a bit far fetched
a touchscreen that works properly out of the box?!
AMOLED screen (Widevine L1 support would be appreciated!), teardrop notch or full-fledged top bezel, and less rounded corners. If the F2 really needs to have rounded corners, I'd rather have them be tastefully done like the Redmi Note 5 Pro or the Oneplus 6. The current corners are atrocious.
I vote for OIS on camera....
Better Quality Checked
QHD
AMOLED screen
EDL mode
Removable Battery
IR
Verified Boot support
Ois and oled
Amoled screen
As long as it is not **** like Poco f1 it will be OK. NFC?
NFC costs pennies to implement. Why not?
AMOLED screen would be nice, ir blaster too.
Keep the micro SD slot.
4000 mah battery is nice, but why not go bigger?
It won't be waterproof, but that would be nice
The f2 will face stiff competition though, being up against the very aggressively priced Lenovo z5 pro gt, which itself reminds me of the mi8 to the Pocophone F1.
Amoled screen, nfc ,ois, sd855, tiny hole selfie camera, wide angle camera on backside instead of deep sense, and aluminum frame. And also keep headphone jack, microsd card support, led notification.
Ip68 water resistant and glass body for wireless charging is unnecessary for most user.
Poco F1 + smaller notch + NFC + same price + available within next three month = instant buy
OIS + Waterproof
now that leaks are pointing towards a sd 845, i seriously hope that a plus or a pro version exists with better features and base price of 25k
The one that leaked in geekbench has the sd 845 and not the 855. I’m sincerely hoping this is not the f2 but I wouldn’t mind if there is a plus version.
Firstly, the regular poco f2 should stick to lcd, 4000 mah battery, and same camera with telephoto or wide angle. This model should come in 6/64(20k) and 8/128(23k) only.
Secondly if there is a plus version and I do think there will be one. It should come with amoled, 5000 mah battery and slightly better cameras. This model should have 3 variants. 6/64(25k), 6/128(27k) and 8/256(31k).
I think this pricing makes total sense. This way they have a super cheap option like the f1 and also a much improved one while also staying substantially cheaper than one plus 7(around 40k)
Something that I want common for both is an unobtrusive notch(dew drop or punch hole), qc4(maybe), nfc(if xiaomi is serious about european markets coz it doesn’t matter in India, I would love to see a metal back or glass but plastic makes most sense( maybe kevlar coloured variants or just go the blackberry route with super grippy backs), less rounded corners(more elegance please) and keep the good stuff from the f1(aggressive pricing, headphone jack, good custom development, liquid cooling, skip ir face unlock and stick with physical fingerprint sensor(coz indisplay one is still finicky and slow)stereo speakers(a little better) and micro sd support).
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QHD
AMOLED screen
EDL mode
Removable Battery
IR
Verified Boot support
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QHD makes no sense, edl maybe, ir face unlock(could be skipped in favour of a small notch), ir blaster(no ones complaining) and removable battery(what world are u living in)
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QHD makes no sense, edl maybe, ir face unlock(could be skipped in favour of a small notch), ir blaster(no ones complaining) and removable battery(what world are u living in)
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Why?
I loved my Moto Maxx(turbo) ... Current Poco screen feels downgrade
IR Blaster is useful at home .... you can control everything at Home without costly wifi stuff.
The removable battery makes the devices more sustainable !!
Too costly bro
z4ck1n said:
Why?
I loved my Moto Maxx(turbo) ... Current Poco screen feels downgrade
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I know the screen on poco f1 is not good. But QHD is too costly and I don't see it being done simply because none of the competition is doing it. Also, isn't a 1080p amoled cheaper than a QHD IPS? The sensible upgrade would be a 1080p amoled. But if they wanna go extremely competitive they should go for a good LCD display. Even the ones on Redmi's had no issue.
Moto Maxx was awesome for its time, but I don't think now's the time for QHD under 25k.
IR blaster is a welcome addition. I loved it on my Mi Max and no one is doing removable batteries anymore. I would love to see them make a comeback but as there is such an emphasis on design nowadays that manufacturers opt for sleek devices.
OIS Camera
Bigger Bettery
NFC is useless in PH, but why not
Amoled
Waterproof
Hello, my fellow members:
Like many of you out there, I am in grief
Only a few months ago I purchased the Sony Xperia 1 Mark III and started enjoying it. But that joy did not last long... Sony announced Sony Xperia Pro-I... Now my $1300 top-of-the-line phone is no longer top-of-the-line and it now costs barely $997. Like many of you out there, I am asking myself: should I have waited? Well, if Sony Xperia Pro-i is indeed a game-changer then, yes, I shouldn't rush in buying the Mark III and wait for the next model, but is it? Whell, that's why I am starting this thread to hear your opinions!
I did not put my hands on the Pro-I yet but from its specs listed on gsmarena (see below) they are basically identical with the only difference being the lens and the chip - that is being advertised as a "1" chip".
I am a sony fan, no doubt, as 95% of all electronics I owned or owe are Sony. But when it comes to cameras, I noticed that Sony is very cheap in giving us better chips...They changed their cameras, they upgraded them but inside you would find the same, old, Sony chip. And now I am surprised to see that Sony is pushing it into the cellphone platforms....hmmm, why? Are they ready to make a move and change the chip on the cameras, therefore, they decided to make a little bit of profit still from their old one? Who knows?
Anyway, going back to the Xperia Pro-i, is it a game-changer? Tough question, right? Well, as I said before I own the Xperia 1 Mark III and one of its biggest drawbacks is the battery. Although Sony claims is a 4500mA battery, it does not behave like one - it keeps me running for the day but that's it - at night, I have to charge it.
So, if the Xperia Pro-I has the same battery (as per gsmarena), then how does that battery will power that big 1" chip??? In my opinion: it can not! If Sony would put that big *ss chip in the middle of the phone to work in conjunction with that super-duper, power-hungry display and all other gps , satellite antenas and that octa-core processor and speakers with subwoofer and vibrations and under an android command with many power-consuming applications, then that phone would not last half a day per charge. Therefore, I think that Sony must have cropped that chip but kept the dot pitch and, hopefully, put a better battery with a real 4500mA juice. Therefore, 1" chip might not be a real 1" chip, but still bigger than the one in Mark III.
These are my thoughts, so far. Please share yours! To the lucky future owners of such phones: please be kind and post your opinion. Thank you!
PRO-I MARK III
NETWORKTechnologyGSM / HSPA / LTE / 5GGSM / HSPA / LTE / 5G
LAUNCHAnnounced2021, October 262021, April 14StatusAvailable. Released 2021, December 02Available. Released 2021, August 25
BODYDimensions166 x 72 x 8.9 mm (6.54 x 2.83 x 0.35 in)165 x 71 x 8.2 mm (6.50 x 2.80 x 0.32 in)Weight211 g (7.44 oz)186 g / 187.1 g (mmWave) (6.56 oz)BuildGlass front (Gorilla Glass Victus), glass back (Gorilla Glass 6), aluminum frameGlass front (Gorilla Glass Victus), glass back (Gorilla Glass 6), aluminum frameSIMHybrid Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)Hybrid Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by) IP65/IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins)
Built-in strap-holeIP65/IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins)
DISPLAYTypeOLED, 1B colors, 120Hz, HDR BT.2020OLED, 1B colors, 120Hz, HDR BT.2020Size6.5 inches, 98.6 cm2 (~82.5% screen-to-body ratio)6.5 inches, 98.6 cm2 (~84.2% screen-to-body ratio)Resolution1644 x 3840 pixels, 21:9 ratio (~643 ppi density)1644 x 3840 pixels, 21:9 ratio (~643 ppi density)ProtectionCorning Gorilla Glass VictusCorning Gorilla Glass Victus Runs at 1096 x 2560 pixels except for select use casesRuns at 1096 x 2560 pixels except for select use cases
PLATFORMOSAndroid 11Android 11ChipsetQualcomm SM8350 Snapdragon 888 5G (5 nm)Qualcomm SM8350 Snapdragon 888 5G (5 nm)CPUOcta-core (1x2.84 GHz Kryo 680 & 3x2.42 GHz Kryo 680 & 4x1.80 GHz Kryo 680)Octa-core (1x2.84 GHz Kryo 680 & 3x2.42 GHz Kryo 680 & 4x1.80 GHz Kryo 680)GPUAdreno 660Adreno 660
MEMORYCard slotmicroSDXC (uses shared SIM slot)microSDXC (uses shared SIM slot)Internal512GB 12GB RAM256GB 12GB RAM, 512GB 12GB RAM UFS 3.XUFS 3.X
MAIN CAMERAModules12 MP, f/2.0-4.0, 24mm (wide), 1.0-type, 2.4µm, PDAF, OIS (315 PDAF points, 90% frame coverage)
12 MP, f/2.4, 50mm (telephoto), 1/2.9", PDAF, 2x optical zoom, OIS
12 MP, f/2.2, 124˚, 16mm (ultrawide), 1/2.55", Dual Pixel PDAF
0.3 MP, TOF 3D, (depth)12 MP, f/1.7, 24mm (wide), 1/1.7", 1.8µm, Dual Pixel PDAF, OIS
12 MP, f/2.3, 70mm (telephoto), f/2.8, 105mm (telephoto), 1/2.9", Dual Pixel PDAF, 3x/4.4x optical zoom, OIS
12 MP, f/2.2, 124˚, 16mm (ultrawide), 1/2.6", Dual Pixel PDAF
0.3 MP, TOF 3D, (depth)FeaturesZeiss optics, Zeiss T* lens coating, LED flash, panorama, 12-bit RAW, HDR, eye trackingZeiss optics, Zeiss T* lens coating, LED flash, panorama, HDR, eye trackingVideo[email protected]/25/30/60/120fps HDR, [email protected]/60/120/240fps; 5-axis gyro-EIS, OIS[email protected]/25/30/60/120fps HDR, [email protected]/60/120/240fps; 5-axis gyro-EIS, OIS
SELFIE CAMERAModules8 MP, f/2.0, 24mm (wide), 1/4", 1.12µm8 MP, f/2.0, 24mm (wide), 1/4", 1.12µmFeaturesHDRHDRVideo[email protected], 5-axis gyro-EIS[email protected], 5-axis gyro-EIS
SOUNDLoudspeakerYes, with stereo speakersYes, with stereo speakers3.5mm jackYesYes 24-bit/192kHz audio
Dynamic vibration system24-bit/192kHz audio
Dynamic vibration system
COMMSWLANWi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspotWi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, hotspotBluetooth5.2, A2DP, aptX HD, LE5.2, A2DP, LE, aptX HDGPSYes, with dual-band A-GPS, GLONASS, BDS, GALILEO, QZSSYes, with dual-band A-GPS, GLONASS, BDS, GALILEO, QZSSNFCYesYesInfrared portNoNoRadioNoNoUSBUSB Type-C 3.2; USB On-The-Go, DisplayPortUSB Type-C 3.1; USB On-The-Go, video output
FEATURESSensorsFingerprint (side-mounted), accelerometer, gyro, proximity, barometer, compass, color spectrumFingerprint (side-mounted), accelerometer, gyro, proximity, barometer, compass, color spectrum Native Sony Alpha camera supportNative Sony Alpha camera support
BATTERYTypeLi-Po 4500 mAh, non-removableLi-Po 4500 mAh, non-removableChargingFast charging 30W, 50% in 30 min (advertised)
USB Power DeliveryFast charging 30W, 50% in 30 min (advertised)
Fast wireless charging
Reverse wireless charging
USB Power DeliveryStand-byTalk time
MISCColorsFrosted BlackFrosted Black, Frosted Gray, Frosted PurpleModelsXQ-BE62, XQBE62-B, XQ-BE62-B, XQ-BE62/B, XQ-BE42, XQ-BE42-B, XQ-BE42/BXQBC62/V, XQBC52V.UKCX, SO-51B, SOG03, A101SO, XQ-BC62, XQ-BC72, XQ-BC52, XQ-BC01, XQ-BC11, XQ-BC21, XQ-BC72Price$ 1,798.00 / C$ 2,853.82 / £ 1,599.00 / € 1,799.00$ 997.00 / C$ 1,370.00 / £ 1,083.79 / € 1,249.99
TESTSPerformanceAnTuTu: 725839 (v9)
GeekBench: 3540 (v5.1)
GFXBench: 51fps (ES 3.1 onscreen)AnTuTu: 607423 (v8)
GeekBench: 3515 (v5.1)
GFXBench: 54fps (ES 3.1 onscreen)DisplayContrast ratio: Infinite (nominal)CameraCompare PHOTO / Compare VIDEOLoudspeaker-28.6 LUFS (Average)-26.5 LUFS (Good)Battery life87h endurance rating82h endurance rating
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most people would better be off with x1 iii.
bought pro-i. not really excited. it's just a fancy toy
saved-j said:
most people would better be off with x1 iii.
bought pro-i. not really excited. it's just a fancy toy
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Do you call it a fancy toy because of the price? The Pro I sensor does not take better pictures? The pictures from the Pro I appear quite a bit brighter in auto mode, no?
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Do you call it a fancy toy because of the price? The Pro I sensor does not take better pictures? The pictures from the Pro I appear quite a bit brighter in auto mode, no?
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you see, if something looks like a phone, feels like a phone and works like a phone, it's a phone. Even if the marketing team says it's a camera with a phone attached to it.
A camera with a 1" sensor should be a camera that uses the surface of a 1" sensor, dammit, and not 2/3 of it. If Sony boasted 36mp sensor in their Alpha cameras where you could only use 24, a lot of people would be upset, but here it's advertised as a game-changer.
I bought the phone for a review. Now I'm waiting for the release of Android 12 to help my review stay up-to-date for longer. Xiaomi already has updated its flagships to A12, Samsung also has, but Sony hasn't yet rolled out an update to its most pricy flagship, which makes no sense since both Xiaomi and Samsung have hundreds of phones while Sony only has a few.
Anyway, Sony is the most balanced flagship imo, but its camera is only good for videos. It does do a much better job in that department, with its 10-bit rec.2020 video, it's unmatched. But you need straight hands to be able to use this stuff properly.
Either way, if one is a photographer, I recommend getting an APS-C camera in the likes of Fuji X-T## series. For videography, the Pro-i has an edge.
saved-j said:
you see, if something looks like a phone, feels like a phone and works like a phone, it's a phone. Even if the marketing team says it's a camera with a phone attached to it.
A camera with a 1" sensor should be a camera that uses the surface of a 1" sensor, dammit, and not 2/3 of it. If Sony boasted 36mp sensor in their Alpha cameras where you could only use 24, a lot of people would be upset, but here it's advertised as a game-changer.
I bought the phone for a review. Now I'm waiting for the release of Android 12 to help my review stay up-to-date for longer. Xiaomi already has updated its flagships to A12, Samsung also has, but Sony hasn't yet rolled out an update to its most pricy flagship, which makes no sense since both Xiaomi and Samsung have hundreds of phones while Sony only has a few.
Anyway, Sony is the most balanced flagship imo, but its camera is only good for videos. It does do a much better job in that department, with its 10-bit rec.2020 video, it's unmatched. But you need straight hands to be able to use this stuff properly.
Either way, if one is a photographer, I recommend getting an APS-C camera in the likes of Fuji X-T## series. For videography, the Pro-i has an edge.
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Now I get your comment. Thanks for the full explanation. Your suggestion of an APS cameras like the Fuji is a suggestion with which I agree and have suggested myself. I want to upgrade phones from the Xiaomi Note 10 Pro from 2019 I have now. The Xiaomi Note 10 Pro camera still gets rated above many new phone releases at 131 DXO points. Anyway.... choices for new phones have not justified a purchase to since 2019. From Sony I appreciate the micro card storage, 3.5 jack, the lanyard and the other phone features etc. Close to stock android is a big deal to me. I ran with Pixels for 6 or 7 years. Xperia's are freer from monetization than Sammy or Apple. And I have a history with Sony cameras: the Sony HX 9 travel camera and the Sony Mavica with the floppy drive.
Sony gets top dollar from consumers. But Sony the downsizing of a lot of their divisions and off- loading the TV's etc. I think they are challenged with support. Sony obviously isn't devoting a lot of organizational assets or manpower to their phone division. So the step-child doesn't get the robust support out to consumers with updates.
On top of all that, the Sony dealer where I live in Indonesia doesn't sell the phones (... I won't go into details on that) so I will have to go to Singapore and I have concerns about the service to an overly expensive phone. I really don't know what I would buy that gives me micro-card storage and a 3.5 inch jack for the classical music to which I listen.
I do disagree with you about the big sensor. So what if they only use part of the sensor? There is no way with the tech to take advantage of the whole sensor in today's slab phones. Anyway... mobile phones are a lot of fun to play with.... you are right, maybe all of them are just toys. Have fun amigo.
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I do disagree with you about the big sensor. So what if they only use part of the sensor? There is no way with the tech to take advantage of the whole sensor in today's slab phones. Anyway... mobile phones are a lot of fun to play with.... you are right, maybe all of them are just toys. Have fun amigo.
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Advertising the 1" but only letting users utilize 1/1.3" is a end-user deception. Still, 1/1.3" is big, it's nice, but it's far not the same as having a true 1" sensor. Also, relative aperture is pretty bad, f2.0 was already not impressive in 2017 - mi11 Ultra utilizes a bigger sensor and it's got a bigger relative aperture which resolves the sensor faster.
They should stop deceiving people and say the truth and explain it wisely - say, "We installed the same sensor as in the rx100m7, and cropped it so you could have 4k120 which the rx100m7 is not capable of! Also, the cropped area is the area that is almost entirely covered with phase detection AF points, so you'll only benefit from it in terms of AF speed!" But they don't. And lots of people feel they've been lied to - especially those who own the both devices and find out that Pro-i is limited to 12mp and it's not the same as the 20mp they got out of their RX100.
In the end, if one is into photography that much, they might consider a Xiaomi mi11 Ultra. In my opinion the Xiaomi gives the most camera hardware for money, and out of all the phones you see on the attached photo (i took it, it's not a stock photo), I am most impressed with the potential of mi11 Ultra. That's where you have the biggest relative aperture and a properly utilized huge sensor. At the same time, colors are not the best, Vivo x70pro+ gives colors that are more eye-pleasing if one prefers portraits. But one must not rush into buying Xiaomi if they ever take photos of moving objects due to catastrophic shutter lag. Only Xperias and iPhones, and AFAIK Google Pixels have minimal shutter lag, most other phones left me unsure whether I will always be able to capture rapidly vanishing moments. Xiaomi has the best detail and Vivo has the best color, but it won't matter if the smile is gone or the bike has left the viewfinder.
Pro-i has a very fast camera. Sadly you can't have both speed and high megapixel count on a phone.
In the other topic I uploaded a bunch of photos I took with Pro-I: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/reviews-are-in-on-the-xperia-pro-i.4371697/post-86298867
I saw that you already gave me kudos for that post. Thanks!
I'll wait now and see part of the round of 2022 devices. The Xiaomi I have has a nice camera. You are right, the shutter is slow. I really should stick to a phone like the Xiaomi's that you can get here in Indonesia. The Vivo is nice, but I find the colors oversaturated but the people I know with shoot in auto mode all the time.The Oppo Find X and a few other phones are interesting. The new Xiaomi ultra should be interesting. Still I don't like the operating systems on the Xiaomi. It is getting better, but I prefer a fairly pure android if I can get it.
Look, I am going to nit-pick here, but Sony never said it had a 1" sensor. It said it had a type 1.0 size sensor. Also they did not hide using 1/1.31 size area.
That aside, the real question is: is the Pro I a game changer? Yea and no: There are faster and larger sensors on phones. There are more powerful AI computational phones out there. However, if you don't want your grey rainy skies tinted blue, or yellowing grass made artificially green, then Xperia is the way to go. The Pro I is slightly thicker and noticeably heavier than the Xperia 1 III, which I like, but most will not. Also there is very limited zoom on the Pro I, and I find this a little limiting.
However, the main sensor is better. Better in colour, low light and detail. On phone screen you will not notice it. But on a 4k monitor or 10"x8" is is better. Not a huge difference, but it's there if you care.
This is the game changer: More interestingly is the RAW performance: if this guy is right, then most computational cameras ruin the raw output even if they have amazing jpg output. Here is the Vivo X70 Pro Plus against Xperia Pro I in raw
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Look, I am going to nit-pick here, but Sony never said it had a 1" sensor. It said it had a type 1.0 size sensor. Also they did not hide using 1/1.31 size area.
That aside, the real question is: is the Pro I a game changer? Yea and no: There are faster and larger sensors on phones. There are more powerful AI computational phones out there. However, if you don't want your grey rainy skies tinted blue, or yellowing grass made artificially green, then Xperia is the way to go. The Pro I is slightly thicker and noticeably heavier than the Xperia 1 III, which I like, but most will not. Also there is very limited zoom on the Pro I, and I find this a little limiting.
However, the main sensor is better. Better in colour, low light and detail. On phone screen you will not notice it. But on a 4k monitor or 10"x8" is is better. Not a huge difference, but it's there if you care.
This is the game changer: More interestingly is the RAW performance: if this guy is right, then most computational cameras ruin the raw output even if they have amazing jpg output. Here is the Vivo X70 Pro Plus against Xperia Pro I in raw
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You are right. I notice the difference in photos. You are correct, the sensor is better. I don't like the marketing stretch and over-exuberance. But, don't all the phone companies say they are the best? The size and thickness? Those commentators should get over themselves. Pro-i does computational photography. It is a digital product after all. The Sony look appears to be more natural to me and so I prefer it. Remember the days when photographers debated Kodachrome, Ektachrome, FujiFilm, etc. Each had it's own look. I want to remember the image I see with my eyes the way it was, not some computational blue blazing sky on a dreary day. And yes, there is a real difference in Sony vs. Sammy or Apple. SomeGadgetGuy (knows his stuff) and has said so once or more. Sony is offering a very comprehensive package (head phone jack, etc., etc.). One of these days Sony will hit it out of the park with a decent battery and a little bit of cooling for the damn chip sets. Let's hope Sony keeps up it's distinctive set of phones. The phones are quite apart from the fanboy and fangirl mass products. BTW, I do think Oppo, Xioami and Hauwei( and their sub-brands) are putting out some worthy packages. This should be a fun year for phones.
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You are right. I notice the difference in photos. You are correct, the sensor is better. I don't like the marketing stretch and over-exuberance. But, don't all the phone companies say they are the best? The size and thickness? Those commentators should get over themselves. Pro-i does computational photography. It is a digital product after all. The Sony look appears to be more natural to me and so I prefer it. Remember the days when photographers debated Kodachrome, Ektachrome, FujiFilm, etc. Each had it's own look. I want to remember the image I see with my eyes the way it was, not some computational blue blazing sky on a dreary day. And yes, there is a real difference in Sony vs. Sammy or Apple. SomeGadgetGuy (knows his stuff) and has said so once or more. Sony is offering a very comprehensive package (head phone jack, etc., etc.). One of these days Sony will hit it out of the park with a decent battery and a little bit of cooling for the damn chip sets. Let's hope Sony keeps up it's distinctive set of phones. The phones are quite apart from the fanboy and fangirl mass products. BTW, I do think Oppo, Xioami and Hauwei( and their sub-brands) are putting out some worthy packages. This should be a fun year for phones.
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Agreed on almost all points.
Size and thickness? That was me. Just comparing to the Xperia 1 III. I already have got over myself
Sure, all digital cameras are computational, but you appear to know what I am describing. The over emphasis of sharpening and saturation. The phone companies have gone overboard for me, and it appears you. Kodachrome or Fujifilm would be a nice optional filter, as opposed to Samsung defaults. Personally I find the Xperia a bit flat, and seems to be compared to the dedicated Sony cameras like RX100. But as a data, it gives you a great raw starting point with lightroom. If the YouTube link I gave is true, the other don't stand a chance if that. Lightroom's auto mode is better than iPhone ect.
Yes Vivo, Huawei and by association Honor are doing great things (Vivo you need to switch to Zeiss Natural Color first or it over saturates).
We are in agreement. I see in adverts that Sammy now claims the S22 Ultra has natural colors and a better raw. If the marketing claim is true for more natural and better RAW, then Sony moved the bar. Wouldn't it be great if Hasseblad has a real influence on the Oppo, or Zeiss hits the mark with their Sharp branded phone? It's a fun year for mobile phones. Best.
Take a look at these from the Sony Pro i I bought. Still learning and these are snaps mostly on my 2x's a day dog walks. The dog usually tolerates my camera time. I do need to play more with the video pro and cinema and see if I can unlock the potential. I also just started experimenting with the night time shots. A few shots are in basic. Mostly shot in the P, S, and Manual modes. https://photos.app.goo.gl/BM9Ratorvioy5XKS9
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Take a look at these from the Sony Pro i I bought. Still learning and these are snaps mostly on my 2x's a day dog walks. The dog usually tolerates my camera time. I do need to play more with the video pro and cinema and see if I can unlock the potential. I also just started experimenting with the night time shots. A few shots are in basic. Mostly shot in the P, S, and Manual modes. https://photos.app.goo.gl/BM9Ratorvioy5XKS9
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I have added more pics to the mix. https://photos.app.goo.gl/BM9Ratorvioy5XKS9 Getting better with the camera. Want to find the time to go out alone and shoot photos and video. These are taken with a dog on a leash. The dog is quite patient, but....