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I'd like some input if it is worth the switch to the GS5 at this point.
Is it enough of a change to switch now or wait for bigger changes?
NuclearEMP said:
I'd like some input if it is worth the switch to the GS5 at this point.
Is it enough of a change to switch now or wait for bigger changes?
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Wait till the G3 my friend it will blow the competition away
The difference between a phone with a Snapdragon 801 and a Snapdragon 800 is as small as that suggests.
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And the camera and battery life are worse on the S5 then the G2. You'd have to be seriously committed to wanting a MicroSD slot, waterproofing and a few extra MHz to switch...
Still, I suppose screens have reached such ridiculous DPI levels that the PenTile AMOLEDs no longer look like a sack of s**t. Unless you prefer natural colours, that is. Plus, I'd wait 6 months after any new Samsung device has been released before buying one in case they've forgotten how to make eMMC controllers again
wait for bigger changes dude. i would wait for lg g3 or nexus 6.
Anything that the S5 offered that the G2 lack? And off those features, do you really need them?
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And the camera and battery life are worse on the S5 then the G2. You'd have to be seriously committed to wanting a MicroSD slot, waterproofing and a few extra MHz to switch...
Still, I suppose screens have reached such ridiculous DPI levels that the PenTile AMOLEDs no longer look like a sack of s**t. Unless you prefer natural colours, that is. Plus, I'd wait 6 months after any new Samsung device has been released before buying one in case they've forgotten how to make eMMC controllers again
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Actually the battery life has been proven to be better and the Screen is also the best screen out on the market right now accuracy wise, yes the screen is almost perfectly calibrated and the colors are very good. The GPU is also more potent (578mhz over 450mhz). BUT its made by Samsung so it still a piece of s***
Azurael said:
And the camera and battery life are worse on the S5 then the G2. You'd have to be seriously committed to wanting a MicroSD slot, waterproofing and a few extra MHz to switch...
Still, I suppose screens have reached such ridiculous DPI levels that the PenTile AMOLEDs no longer look like a sack of s**t. Unless you prefer natural colours, that is. Plus, I'd wait 6 months after any new Samsung device has been released before buying one in case they've forgotten how to make eMMC controllers again
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You do know that your posts is full of innacuracies and regurgitated fan ? crap? You're wrong pretty much on all points.
I for one am sticking to g2 for a time being and cost versus benefits ratio is definitely in g2 favor.
On grey market in Canada for brand new in the box, it is $400 cash for g2 vs $800 with taxes from provider for sgs5.
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the camera on the g2 is a hit and miss piece of dung. It is by far the most inconsistent camera ive ever used on a smart phone. In a low light shoot out my lumia 920/iphone5s/then g2. and in decent light it is still a fuzzy grainy noisy phone but when the light is optimal its wonderful. the gs5 is similar in terms of camera performence except the shutter is almost instant like on the iphone 5s. the g2 takes way too long to focus and shoot.plus the s5 is water resistant . personally id wait another month and see what the G3 is all about. thats what im doing.
Wait and see. I'd call the S5 and the G2 too close to call, as they each have their own strengths.
The G3 sounds like it'll be better than the S5, thus the wait and see approach...
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NuclearEMP said:
I'd like some input if it is worth the switch to the GS5 at this point.
Is it enough of a change to switch now or wait for bigger changes?
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i'd wait AT LEAST till they drop this Knox"feature", was one reason for me to leave Samsung's behind...
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You do know that your posts is full of innacuracies and regurgitated fan �� crap? You're wrong pretty much on all points.
I for one am sticking to g2 for a time being and cost versus benefits ratio is definitely in g2 favor.
On grey market in Canada for brand new in the box, it is $400 cash for g2 vs $800 with taxes from provider for sgs5.
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Really? So I'm imagining my friends' (often repeatedly) bricked S3s and Note 2s? I'm imagining that all the comparison shots I've seen (especially low light) make the G2 camera with its OIS look better than the S5? I'm imagining that even though Samsung released kernel patches for the broken ERASE/DISCARD on S2/S3/Note/Note2 eMMC (not to mention other manufacturer's devices that also used f**ed Sammy eMMC), the performance of those devices now sucks in comparison to other Android hardware running TRIM enabled Android? I'm imagining that the S5 has a smaller capacity battery and I get 7-8 hours SOT out of the G2 running PA4 beta4? Oh, and AMOLEDs - even if you can't see the subpixels, they've finally decided to stop calibrating them to a cartoon colour space, and you can read them outdoors: I've seen myself that even the panel on the S5 suffers from wild differences in colour temperature at different brightness levels and I see no evidence that it won't be subject to the rapid decay that is AFAIK inherent to their manufacture at the moment, the display on my S2 looks crap now. Its gone purple. And the device has hardly been used.
And finally, I'm imagining the fact that my girlfriends old S2, which we replaced with a Nexus 4 after 6 months because it was so crap is the most unstable POS with the worst battery life of any Android device I've ever had the misfortune to own, regardless of what it was running?
GPL compliance? Bootloader security? Any other reasons to hate Samsung required? They're a blight on the face of the Android ecosystem.
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the camera on the g2 is a hit and miss piece of dung. It is by far the most inconsistent camera ive ever used on a smart phone. In a low light shoot out my lumia 920/iphone5s/then g2. and in decent light it is still a fuzzy grainy noisy phone but when the light is optimal its wonderful. the gs5 is similar in terms of camera performence except the shutter is almost instant like on the iphone 5s. the g2 takes way too long to focus and shoot.plus the s5 is water resistant . personally id wait another month and see what the G3 is all about. thats what im doing.
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Stock camera? Xdabbabs camera is a work at art. Just saying... I can't take a bad photo now.
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Azurael said:
Really? So I'm imagining my friends' (often repeatedly) bricked S3s and Note 2s? I'm imagining that all the comparison shots I've seen (especially low light) make the G2 camera with its OIS look better than the S5? I'm imagining that even though Samsung released kernel patches for the broken ERASE/DISCARD on S2/S3/Note/Note2 eMMC (not to mention other manufacturer's devices that also used f**ed Sammy eMMC), the performance of those devices now sucks in comparison to other Android hardware running TRIM enabled Android? I'm imagining that the S5 has a smaller capacity battery and I get 7-8 hours SOT out of the G2 running PA4 beta4? Oh, and AMOLEDs - even if you can't see the subpixels, they've finally decided to stop calibrating them to a cartoon colour space, and you can read them outdoors: I've seen myself that even the panel on the S5 suffers from wild differences in colour temperature at different brightness levels and I see no evidence that it won't be subject to the rapid decay that is AFAIK inherent to their manufacture at the moment, the display on my S2 looks crap now. Its gone purple. And the device has hardly been used.
And finally, I'm imagining the fact that my girlfriends old S2, which we replaced with a Nexus 4 after 6 months because it was so crap is the most unstable POS with the worst battery life of any Android device I've ever had the misfortune to own, regardless of what it was running?
GPL compliance? Bootloader security? Any other reasons to hate Samsung required? They're a blight on the face of the Android ecosystem.
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I see that indeed you have strong feelings on the subject, and I can go with you, toe to toe, on all points, but I won't. You're just too much all over the place with your arguments, and sufficiently off topic, to make it really not worthwhile discussing this further. Salutations! ?
I stand by my original post.
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changing from G2 to galaxy s5 is not an upgrade. some things like battery and screen are outright downgrade. some other things like fingerprint scanner/heartrate monitor are an upgrade.
The key thing is: you have to decide what factors you personally prioritise. If fingerprint scanner is more important for you than good battery life, go for the S5. Otherwise dont "upgrade".
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I see that indeed you have strong feelings on the subject, and I can go with you, toe to toe, on all points, but I won't. You're just too much all over the place with your arguments, and sufficiently off topic, to make it really not worthwhile discussing this further. Salutations! ��
I stand by my original post.
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So we can summarise this interaction with the following:
'You are wrong'
'Am I? Because my experience and evidence, while largely anecdotal, suggests very much the opposite.'
'I have no counterargument, you are wrong because I say you are and I know best'
Well, that was a waste of time.
Anyway, I hope you have a lovely day too! :highfive:
Edit: But to clarify, you're disputing that there was a widespread issue with bricked S2s, S3s, Notes and Note 2s due to faulty eMMC? You're disputing that the brightness of subpixels in AMOLED displays decay quite noticeably and at a different rate by colour (which is why they're PenTile in the first place) within the typical usage span of a mobile device equipped with one (say 2 years?) You're disputing that the CM device maintainers for Exynos devices threatened to quit/did quit over Samsung's delayed and dysfunctional kernel source dumps? Because I assure you, all of those are FACTS. Not all totally relevant to the S5, but factual. They've proven they have reckless disregard for their customers and go out of their way to make things difficult for the kind of people who hang out here on XDA.
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So we can summarise this interaction with the following:
'You are wrong'
'Am I? Because my experience and evidence, while largely anecdotal, suggests very much the opposite.'
'I have no counterargument, you are wrong because I say you are and I know best'
Well, that was a waste of time.
Anyway, I hope you have a lovely day too! :highfive:
Edit: But to clarify, you're disputing that there was a widespread issue with bricked S2s, S3s, Notes and Note 2s due to faulty eMMC? You're disputing that the brightness of subpixels in AMOLED displays decay quite noticeably and at a different rate by colour (which is why they're PenTile in the first place) within the typical usage span of a mobile device equipped with one (say 2 years?) You're disputing that the CM device maintainers for Exynos devices threatened to quit/did quit over Samsung's delayed and dysfunctional kernel source dumps? Because I assure you, all of those are FACTS. Not all totally relevant to the S5, but factual. They've proven they have reckless disregard for their customers and go out of their way to make things difficult for the kind of people who hang out here on XDA.
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And youre digressing thus not helping the OP
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I do not own the S5, but tinkered with one a bit on the day of release. I am sure in some respects the S5 is an upgrade to the G2. I hear the camera is better than the stock G2 camera. Battery life is also improved. The thing is, the battery life on my G2 is soo good ( and so much better than the S4 that I had previously) that I cannot imagine the S5 offering me a noticeable improvement. As for the camera, since I started using modded cameras (Jinsu or Xdabbeb) I have not had any issues. The stock camera had some issues (like the long delay before shooting and i think low-light performance). I think the two phones are so close, that you may be better off waiting a few weeks to see what the G3 has to offer.
I returned my s5 after 7 hours. the camera is garbage. the phone got as hot as the s4 did. the screen while nice, did not match the accuracy and whites of the g2. it had crappy build quality bc it has the body shifting issue my s3 had, where the battery didn't fit right in the cavity and would move inside that cavity and made the phone twist and crack everytime you picked it up.
I stuck to my g2 and I'll wait for the g3.
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I tried an s5 at an att store yesterday and I like the feel of the device better than the g2 and the camera was great. It was super fast and took insanely sharp images. Low light wasn't good. The screen is gorgeous the weight is good. Its not a great leap over the g2 but it is a nice device. The g3 is rumored to have a very high resolution screen which is useless . hopefully they fix the bad camera. All LG has to do is water proof , fix the camera low light and noise issues and possible up the battery to 3400. That would be golden
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PURPOSE
So 1st and foremost, the plan here is to give you my experience with these 2 phones. Granted, I have only used the Axon 7 for about 3 days now and can say I have yet to fully break it in to find everything that may or may not be right / wrong with it. However, this will be a unbiased look and comparison. I'm neither a fanboy or sheep. No brand affiliation. Not a programmer either, just a pro-sumer Senior Member of XDA willing to get trolled, flamed, etc. for sharing a look at these 2 phones. Hopefully, I can give "the everyday guy / gal look" without getting bogged down in stats, variables or benchmarks. Here goes...
MY BACKGROUND
No one special. Just a guy that likes the latest tech... phones being at the top of the list. I am a nerd. No doubt about that. I think anyone that knows about XDA probably is to some extent. No brand loyalty. Recently, I have had the privilege to try out the following phones:
1. Axon 7
2. OnePlus 3
3. HTC 10
4. LeEcco Le Max 2
5. Huawei P9
6. LG G5
7. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
8. Huawei Mate 8
9. Huawei Nexus 6P
10. LG Nexus 5X
11. Samsung Note 5
12. Apple iPhone 6s+
And probably some more, but these are the most recent. Does that make me qualified to make a review... Maybe. It does make me an idiot that likes new phones, though. I am always looking for something that meets my needs but also is a good phone. Currently with TMobile but have been with ATT, Verizon & Sprint at some point over 20 years of using cell phones.
MY NEEDS
I drive about 40 miles everyday to work (yes, my work week is currently 7 days a week with a few occasional days off). So, with this in mind and where I drive, I need the minimum requirements:
1. Can Stream Music
2. Bluetooth is fully compatible with my 2016 vehicle
3. An equalizer of some sort since I have only switch out my new cars speakers for better ones and don't plan on changing or adding a better sound system.
4. Decent pictures when needed
5. As a nerd, I like to "mesmerize" people with a pay with your phone app like Apple Pay or Android Pay
6. Works with my Huawei Watch
7. Relatively not laggy - will sometimes do some ROM-ing or some customization but since I tend to get rid of the phones quickly I try not to void warranties or make it too non-stock
THE COMPARISON
I am looking at my experience with the OnePlus 3 and the Axon 7 under/around these requirements and some normal stuff like battery, screen, snappiness, heat, speakers, etc. Here goes:
SOUND OVERALL
There is not too many times when I do a review comparison where 1 phone just crushes the other... and I don't mean like crushing an empty aluminum beer can in your hand crushing... I mean like BigFoot crushing late model junk cars at the end of a Monster Truck Rally Crushin'.... 'Mericaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Sorry got carried away there a second. Honestly, how phone manufacturers cannot include a system-wide sound equalizer with all the other STUPID GUI tweaks and bastardizations they do to Android especially is beyond me in 2016. Most people are transitioning to bluetooth headphones or have bluetooth in their cars and for the most part use streaming services to/for music. Yes, there is the occasional dude with the $1000 plug-in headphones that also plugs into a in-line $2000 DAC that only listens to download Loseless Quality Music with the Music App that came with the phone.... with a show of hands, how many fall into this category??? Then why pray tell is this the only music equalization most manufacturers are catering too on their phones (Apple included)? I don't know just wanted to rant a little. With that said though, the inclusion of Dolby ATMOS without having to root on the Axon 7 plus its dual stereo forward facing speakers makes this a non-competition. Yes, you could add ViperATMOSBeatsDon'tcare Mod.zip to a rooted TWRP OnePlus 3... but why should I have to? Why can't some system-wide equalizer be included Mr. FlagShip Killer? Look at their own Community Forum and its one of the most active requests since the OnePlus 3 came out (along with actually using all the RAM the phone has)... Good Work ZTE!!! I'm sure for all you headphone people too that the AXON 7 would dominate even though I have zero to judge that on since I have never taken either the OnePlus 3's headphones nor the AXON 7's headphones out of the box.
WINNER: AXON 7 BigFoot- Crushing OnePlus 3 Grave Digger.
BATTERY
People get bent out of shape nowadays about the "wall hugger" syndrome... this is the need to re-charge your phone more than once, twice, 3-times etc. per day and being attached to a charger constantly. Well, we only have ourselves and technology to blame. Battery technology has yet to progress to a point that adequately matches all the other advances cell phones have made... I can remember in the 90's getting my first Li-ion Battery Cell Phone and was like "WOW!!! I can charge this anytime I want, days of battery life, no need to discharge the whole phone before recharging and no need for extra batteries..." Fast forward almost 30 years... AND its the same type of battery... So no phone truly wins here until technology gets better. This too along with our need for skinny things... women, cocktails, bank account, soda, etc. have phones getting increasingly skinnier without ever considering what it has do with the battery is disturbing. If only we could get back to the simpler times of a bagphone, then the battery could be as big as you want it... AHHH, the simpler times. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Really though, the batteries on both phones perform very similar in my use. The place where they differ the most is the charging. For OnePlus 3, you have to use their proprietary DASH Charge as oppose to QuickCharge 3.0. This means you can only buy OnePlus 3 chargers (or some not trustworthy knock offs) to take advantage of feature... it's not so bad now that they made the car charger available again on their website and the phone comes with a wall plug with the feature... it's just a departure from the standard many others are using and requires new accessory purchases... basically a OnePlus Money Grab.... DASH Charge is slightly faster but not enough for anyone but a battery loving neophyte to really take notice.
WINNER: AXON 7 - Sorry QuickCharge 3.0 Industry Standard beats proprietary DASH Charge even though DASH Charge is slightly faster.
HEAT
Not going to spend much time here. Both phones run Snapdragon 820's. Both phones are metal... guess what... they get hot under stress... so no winners here, only losers. Neither had to be powered off for getting too hot though, like my S7 needed to when I was doing its initial setup... so there's that. :good:
WINNER: Both or None... They get hot under processor stress and in the dreaded "At an event and have your camera constantly on then stick it in your pocket only to have 3rd degree burns on your thighs or butt" Test
SNAPPINESS
Neither phone I have taken the time to Mod or root or stare at compassionately... but both perform really well like they should. Now, let the 6GB vs. 4GB debates begin!!! First, it is well known that even after 2 updates, the OnePlus 3's RAM management is still wonky and does not fully utilize all that RAM. No matter. I can't see an advantage yet. Yes you could AnTuTu-whogivesapoop test them all day. I rather just talked about how using the phone feels. Neither have extensive bastardizations over stock android so neither grinds the phone to a halt like TouchWizCement does. I run the BETA of Sense 8 Launcher for All Android Phones on both. Both phones perform well with it. I have played Pokemon GO! on both along with Clash Royale... both run fine. GPS works good on both and locks in fairly quickly. It isn't the best I have seen but not the LG Worst either Until there's another processor to look at, I think most manufacturers are taking full advantage of the limits of the 820. Throwing RAM at it doesn't dramatically do anything either. I guess it good to always have it in your back pocket if needed.
WINNER: ONEPLUS 3 - Simply because it has more RAM, no real-world experience proves it faster. Fanboy Benchmarkers withstanding
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YES... One can easily claim that RAM on the face of it has nothing to do with Snappiness since no present day Android phone fully utilizes 4GB let alone 6GB of RAM... The point to be made here is that the OP3 although having more RAM has no advantage in snappiness over an AXON 7. With that said, since both phones cost the same, neither phone is snappier, why not pick the one with more RAM based on stats alone... for this particularly on the face of it unrelated category? Furthermore, there has been many tests of the OP3 that show that RAM in a way DOES influence its snappiness when compared to 4GB phones... not because of the amount of RAM but by OP3's RAM MANAGEMENT. Lastly, although it may seem like a marketing ploy now for OP3 to have 6GB of RAM since it is not needed since it is not utilized.... I have kind of heard this argument before... when phones had 1GB of RAM and 2GB phones were introduced, then when 3GB phones were introduced, etc. etc. and from basically every iSheep out there, that more RAM does not necessarily make a phone better or faster. Albeit true for the most part for Apple because they spend a vast amount of time developing their RAM Management and have iOS lock down, for Android and what seems to be a lack of development on this front, RAM amounts increase to handle the sloppiness of the RAM Management and/or lack of focus on developing this overlooked section of the phone's programming. Basically, OP3 moves the needle for better or worst towards 6GB at the same price as 4GB... more is more in this one scenario only...
DISPLAY
Not much to mention here either. Both have good displays. On paper, the AXON 7's is better. I would say that the average person not knowing that one has higher resolution than the other would have a hard time calling it out. Color reproduction is about the same on both as well. Neither have a "always-on" feature which would have been nice. Both have LED's for notifications. Here's where once again you just have to stick with the stats and say....
WINNER: AXON 7 - higher stats mean better screen right!!!!???
PHONE DESIGN
Wow! a bit to talk about here. Let's start on both phones exterior features and design. Both are designed well. Definitely not ugly by any stretch of the imagination. The AXON 7 was designed with help from BMW and significantly improves on the previous generation iteration, like having actual speakers in both of the speaker grill looking forward facing top and bottom of screen. I do have the gold AXON 7... the color isn't the greatest but I wasn't going to wait for the gray one to come out to test it... I might return the gold for a gray if they become available in my return window. The OnePlus 3 is a pretty phone too. It doesn't have a firm like BMW attached to it, but one feels they did a good job of improving on the OnePlus 2 design without getting away from their bread and butter core design elements. With that, I love the alert slider... call me an isheep but I feel to this day that it is the single greatest design advantage the iPhone has had over any Android phone for years now. Although not as perfectly functional as Apples is, the OnePlus 3 is a great feature. Both have excellent fingerprint readers. Very fast. For my use case, a front facing fingerprint reader is better. That's my use case, in a cradle, in my car, that I get in and out of while sometime leaving my phone in the cradle, makes the front facing reader slightly more convenient. NFC chip and camera placement good on both as well. AXON 7 does have one design characteristic that I found annoying and I noticed while playing Clash Royale.... the power button is on the right side of the phone near the center. While playing and trying to drag drop to the top of the screen, you can easily inadvertently toggle the on/off button, this might be the button is overly sensitive or just my clumsiness. OnePlus 3 scores some extras too with swapstyle cases... Why can't other phone manufacturers take notes here. I think it is great that I can get relatively cheap exclusively designed nice looking cases for my OnePlus 3... for the AXON 7, I'm stuck with Chinese knock off cheesy poop designed cases with TPU raining from skies... I need a case and sure the first thing that comes to mind when I get a nice looking professionally designed by BMW phone is to put it into a TPU trashcan of a case because 0.0 (zero point zero) cases by ZTE are available or even look worthy of residing on the phone.... yep, I so love it. AXON 7 does step it up with one thing, SD card compatibility. More storage... sure I can use that anytime...
WINNER: TIED - OnePlus 3 would have won here, but not having SD Card capability is just dumb... especially since you used the space for a dual SIM.
*********************ADDITIONAL DESIGN DISCUSSION************CAPACITIVE BUTTONS ON THE AXON 7**********************
Purposely I left this discussion out about the capacitive buttons on the AXON 7. WHY? You may ask. At first, like many, when I heard that not only does the AXON 7 only have capacitive buttons without the option to toggle to turn them off for on-screen buttons, the buttons themselves do not light up, did make me a little worried. But to not buy a phone based on a untested worry is just fear mongering at it best, plus I bought my AXON 7 from Amazon so that I could easily return it if I hated it. Well, surprisingly the capacitive button "issue" is really just a bunch of hype... yes, I do think that OP3 has the advantage here with the toggle for on-screen and that its buttons light up. However, the AXON 7 does provide a on-screen button solution although it is way more sloppy looks wise then OP3's. The whole light up button thing to me can be excused by what was an intentional design choice by ZTE. So, unlike the OP3 which has its all app and back buttons spread out along the bottom of the display, the AXON 7 distinctively has its all-app and back buttons crowded towards the center closer to the central home button. Why do this? Well, from my use in dark rooms and at night, it makes not seeing the actual buttons not an issue. Let me explain further. I know from muscle memory that the home button is in center of the bottom of screen... pretty easy to hit in a completely dark room unless I'm drunk that is... being able to do this on muscle memory then in turn with a slight adjustment to the right, makes it easy to hit the back button (setup for right hand in the AXON 7's setting) and same to the left with the all apps button. If the buttons were spaced out like OP3's without lights then it would be an issue... but in this case and what I hope is design answering function, the AXON 7 doesn't have an issue... once again to me, maybe not you.... hahahahaha
CAMERA
I have done a couple of these reviews and every time I point out that I am not a big fan of cameras on phones. I went to school for photography and movie making back when film was still used. Have seen lenses that cost more than my current house and have seen Ansel Adams original prints first hand. So, it makes me a camera snob... thus, my opinion of on phone cameras is that they are all Bantha PooDoo. However, improvements are made with every new phone and even though innovations have seem to slow in favor of the pixel wars... one day they might be great.
Looking at both and later I will put up some similar shots from both, each phone have decent cameras. The OnePlus performs better in low light especially however I would not count the AXON 7 out in the cold as I feel that the AXON 7's low light difficulties might be able to be corrected with feature updates. The AXON 7 does have it's ripoff version of a "live photo" that works pretty decent plus some decent scenario modes that just work better for pictures I may take. The OnePlus 3's camera software is just basic with good custom manual settings. The AXON 7 has manual mode as well. Like I said, I will upload some similar shots from each and you can decide.
WINNER: TBD
CONCLUSION
So, what can I conclude? Both phones are awesome... Both have plus and minuses. I don't think there's a clear hands down winner and would not want to argue that point. I can only tell you that beyond everything else that the lack of a system-wide equalizer for sound just annoys little brown stinkies out of me. My commute to work is a big part of my day sometimes 7 days a week. I want to listen to Sirius XM app and Google Play Music so it sound great in my car. I want to set some equalization that make it sound awesome then forget it is even there. Not constant resetting of bass boost, tweaking sound to have it all reset again and again. Why provide a basic equalizer in Google Play Music on the OnePlus 3 that always has the bass setting reset when a call comes in, you switch to a new app or the crappy RAM Management software kicks it out of memory even though you locked it into memory on the all apps screen? That just pains me... If OnePlus does listen to their customer base, maybe just maybe they will add one in a future OTA update. Who knows. Having had the original AXON, I have to say that this phone is definitely an improvement and is worth checking out if you liked the original. I am still a little off-put by the fact that ZTE has done very little to support this phone with accessories like cases and stuff making me hit Aliexpress for the Oscar the Grouch specials that they have there. Could you survive with either one of these phones as your next new phone... of course! Hopefully, this little review will help you out in that decision. Lastly and as always, this is just Some Guys Opinion...
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Newsflash - Having 6gb of RAM doesn't make a phone more snappy than a 4gb phone... people need to stop thinking this...4gb is more than enough RAM for even the most hardcore user...6gb is just a gimmick for sales.
gparmar76 said:
Newsflash - Having 6gb of RAM doesn't make a phone more snappy than a 4gb phone... people need to stop thinking this...4gb is more than enough RAM for even the most hardcore user...6gb is just a gimmick for sales.
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Newsflash- didn't say it did but with proper RAM management it COULD in theory be more snappy if it kept more apps in memory not requiring them to be reloaded. Also if the phones are the same price why not have more. Was pretty much my point. It makes no difference but higher quantity wins out. Your argument is the same for better displays 1080p is good enough why would you need more? Because they can and do... Snore
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Newsflash- didn't say it did but with proper RAM management it COULD in theory be more snappy if it kept more apps in memory not requiring them to be reloaded. Also if the phones are the same price why not have more. Was pretty much my point. It makes no difference but higher quantity wins out. Your argument is the same for better displays 1080p is good enough why would you need more? Because they can and do... Snore
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lol...why don't you read what you wrote...Snappiness -OP3 simply because it has more RAM.
All I'm saying is you're wrong...the OP3 could very well be "snappier" but it sure as hell isn't because it has 6gb of memory... memory management issues or not...the only time RAM would take away from a modern day smartphone's speed or cause heavy lag would be if it had very low amount of RAM (512mb or 1gb)....even 2gb phones run great on Android M...most high end phones that have 3 or more GB of memory never use all of it...you could load up 250,apps simultaneously and you would never use 4gb of memory...trust me I've tried and I'm using the OP2...most if not ALL issues related to lag these days or just spotty performance in the UK is related to the OS and how the OEM implemented it...heavy skinning, bloatware, etc etc.
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lol...why don't you read what you wrote...Snappiness -OP3 simply because it has more RAM.
All I'm saying is you're wrong...the OP3 could very well be "snappier" but it sure as hell isn't because it has 6gb of memory... memory management issues or not...the only time RAM would take away from a modern day smartphone's speed or cause heavy lag would be if it had very low amount of RAM (512mb or 1gb)....even 2gb phones run great on Android M...most high end phones that have 3 or more GB of memory never use all of it...you could load up 250,apps simultaneously and you would never use 4gb of memory...trust me I've tried and I'm using the OP2...most if not ALL issues related to lag these days or just spotty performance in the UK is related to the OS and how the OEM implemented it...heavy skinning, bloatware, etc etc.
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Bra- I know you guys in the UK think you invented English language but...
The whole paragraph explains that neither the Axon 7 or the OP3 is faster or more snappy. In so much as this is true, why not have 6GB of RAM if it doesn't cost more. Thus exactly what I wrote rather than the trainwreck you wrote :
WINNER: ONEPLUS 3 - Simply because it has more RAM, no real-world experience proves it faster. Fanboy Benchmarkers withstanding
Which simply means in headlines, newsflashes or whatever else makes you feel like you are telling someone that you're important that when 2 phones perform the same, might as well have the one with more stuff, regardless if it helps or not...
I prefer that I pick who puts words in my mouth and it turns out you're not one of them
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Bra- I know you guys in the UK think you invented English language but...
The whole paragraph explains that neither the Axon 7 or the OP3 is faster or more snappy. In so much as this is true, why not have 6GB of RAM if it doesn't cost more. Thus exactly what I wrote rather than the trainwreck you wrote :
WINNER: ONEPLUS 3 - Simply because it has more RAM, no real-world experience proves it faster. Fanboy Benchmarkers withstanding
Which simply means in headlines, newsflashes or whatever else makes you feel like you are telling someone that you're important that when 2 phones perform the same, might as well have the one with more stuff, regardless if it helps or not...
I prefer that I pick who puts words in mouth and it turns out your not one of them
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"BRA" It was spell check that changed UI to UK... would have thought that was clearly evident...but alas...
And I know what he was implying...bra...lol...aren't bras worn by women? Maybe you mean Bruh?
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"BRA" It was spell check that changed UI to UK... would have thought that was clearly evident...but alas...
And I know what he was implying...bra...lol...aren't bras worn by women? Maybe you mean Bruh?
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Nope I meant to call you "bra" and spell check had my back. Bruh is for my bruhs. "Bra" is for someone exactly like you because since you must wear them since you're a little biatch... Trolling flaming gnome. Go get in line for Harry Potter and have a nice day BRA
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PURPOSE
So 1st and foremost, the plan here is to give you my experience with these 2 phones. Granted, I have only used the Axon 7 for about 3 days now and can say I have yet to fully break it in to find everything that may or may not be right / wrong with it. However, this will be a unbiased look and comparison. I'm neither a fanboy or sheep. No brand affiliation. Not a programmer either, just a pro-sumer Senior Member of XDA willing to get trolled, flamed, etc. for sharing a look at these 2 phones. Hopefully, I can give "the everyday guy / gal look" without getting bogged down in stats, variables or benchmarks. Here goes...
MY BACKGROUND
No one special. Just a guy that likes the latest tech... phones being at the top of the list. I am a nerd. No doubt about that. I think anyone that knows about XDA probably is to some extent. No brand loyalty. Recently, I have had the privilege to try out the following phones:
1. Axon 7
2. OnePlus 3
3. HTC 10
4. LeEcco Le Max 2
5. Huawei P9
6. LG G5
7. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
8. Huawei Mate 8
9. Huawei Nexus 6P
10. LG Nexus 5X
11. Samsung Note 5
12. Apple iPhone 6s+
And probably some more, but these are the most recent. Does that make me qualified to make a review... Maybe. It does make me an idiot that likes new phones, though. I am always looking for something that meets my needs but also is a good phone. Currently with TMobile but have been with ATT, Verizon & Sprint at some point over 20 years of using cell phones.
MY NEEDS
I drive about 40 miles everyday to work (yes, my work week is currently 7 days a week with a few occasional days off). So, with this in mind and where I drive, I need the minimum requirements:
1. Can Stream Music
2. Bluetooth is fully compatible with my 2016 vehicle
3. An equalizer of some sort since I have only switch out my new cars speakers for better ones and don't plan on changing or adding a better sound system.
4. Decent pictures when needed
5. As a nerd, I like to "mesmerize" people with a pay with your phone app like Apple Pay or Android Pay
6. Works with my Huawei Watch
7. Relatively not laggy - will sometimes do some ROM-ing or some customization but since I tend to get rid of the phones quickly I try not to void warranties or make it too non-stock
THE COMPARISON
I am looking at my experience with the OnePlus 3 and the Axon 7 under/around these requirements and some normal stuff like battery, screen, snappiness, heat, speakers, etc. Here goes:
SOUND OVERALL
There is not too many times when I do a review comparison where 1 phone just crushes the other... and I don't mean like crushing an empty aluminum beer can in your hand crushing... I mean like BigFoot crushing late model junk cars at the end of a Monster Truck Rally Crushin'.... 'Mericaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Sorry got carried away there a second. Honestly, how phone manufacturers cannot include a system-wide sound equalizer with all the other STUPID GUI tweaks and bastardizations they do to Android especially is beyond me in 2016. Most people are transitioning to bluetooth headphones or have bluetooth in their cars and for the most part use streaming services to/for music. Yes, there is the occasional dude with the $1000 plug-in headphones that also plugs into a in-line $2000 DAC that only listens to download Loseless Quality Music with the Music App that came with the phone.... with a show of hands, how many fall into this category??? Then why pray tell is this the only music equalization most manufacturers are catering too on their phones (Apple included)? I don't know just wanted to rant a little. With that said though, the inclusion of Dolby ATMOS without having to root on the Axon 7 plus its dual stereo forward facing speakers makes this a non-competition. Yes, you could add ViperATMOSBeatsDon'tcare Mod.zip to a rooted TWRP OnePlus 3... but why should I have to? Why can't some system-wide equalizer be included Mr. FlagShip Killer? Look at their own Community Forum and its one of the most active requests since the OnePlus 3 came out (along with actually using all the RAM the phone has)... Good Work ZTE!!! I'm sure for all you headphone people too that the AXON 7 would dominate even though I have zero to judge that on since I have never taken either the OnePlus 3's headphones nor the AXON 7's headphones out of the box.
WINNER: AXON 7 BigFoot- Crushing OnePlus 3 Grave Digger.
BATTERY
People get bent out of shape nowadays about the "wall hugger" syndrome... this is the need to re-charge your phone more than once, twice, 3-times etc. per day and being attached to a charger constantly. Well, we only have ourselves and technology to blame. Battery technology has yet to progress to a point that adequately matches all the other advances cell phones have made... I can remember in the 90's getting my first Li-ion Battery Cell Phone and was like "WOW!!! I can charge this anytime I want, days of battery life, no need to discharge the whole phone before recharging and no need for extra batteries..." Fast forward almost 30 years... AND its the same type of battery... So no phone truly wins here until technology gets better. This too along with our need for skinny things... women, cocktails, bank account, soda, etc. have phones getting increasingly skinnier without ever considering what it has do with the battery is disturbing. If only we could get back to the simpler times of a bagphone, then the battery could be as big as you want it... AHHH, the simpler times. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Really though, the batteries on both phones perform very similar in my use. The place where they differ the most is the charging. For OnePlus 3, you have to use their proprietary DASH Charge as oppose to QuickCharge 3.0. This means you can only buy OnePlus 3 chargers (or some not trustworthy knock offs) to take advantage of feature... it's not so bad now that they made the car charger available again on their website and the phone comes with a wall plug with the feature... it's just a departure from the standard many others are using and requires new accessory purchases... basically a OnePlus Money Grab.... DASH Charge is slightly faster but not enough for anyone but a battery loving neophyte to really take notice.
WINNER: AXON 7 - Sorry QuickCharge 3.0 Industry Standard beats proprietary DASH Charge even though DASH Charge is slightly faster.
HEAT
Not going to spend much time here. Both phones run Snapdragon 820's. Both phones are metal... guess what... they get hot under stress... so no winners here, only losers. Neither had to be powered off for getting too hot though, like my S7 needed to when I was doing its initial setup... so there's that. :good:
WINNER: Both or None... They get hot under processor stress and in the dreaded "At an event and have your camera constantly on then stick it in your pocket only to have 3rd degree burns on your thighs or butt" Test
SNAPPINESS
Neither phone I have taken the time to Mod or root or stare at compassionately... but both perform really well like they should. Now, let the 6GB vs. 4GB debates begin!!! First, it is well known that even after 2 updates, the OnePlus 3's RAM management is still wonky and does not fully utilize all that RAM. No matter. I can't see an advantage yet. Yes you could AnTuTu-whogivesapoop test them all day. I rather just talked about how using the phone feels. Neither have extensive bastardizations over stock android so neither grinds the phone to a halt like TouchWizCement does. I run the BETA of Sense 8 Launcher for All Android Phones on both. Both phones perform well with it. I have played Pokemon GO! on both along with Clash Royale... both run fine. GPS works good on both and locks in fairly quickly. It isn't the best I have seen but not the LG Worst either [emoji14] Until there's another processor to look at, I think most manufacturers are taking full advantage of the limits of the 820. Throwing RAM at it doesn't dramatically do anything either. I guess it good to always have it in your back pocket if needed.
WINNER: ONEPLUS 3 - Simply because it has more RAM, no real-world experience proves it faster. Fanboy Benchmarkers withstanding
DISPLAY
Not much to mention here either. Both have good displays. On paper, the AXON 7's is better. I would say that the average person not knowing that one has higher resolution than the other would have a hard time calling it out. Color reproduction is about the same on both as well. Neither have a "always-on" feature which would have been nice. Both have LED's for notifications. Here's where once again you just have to stick with the stats and say....
WINNER: AXON 7 - higher stats mean better screen right!!!!???
PHONE DESIGN
Wow! a bit to talk about here. Let's start on both phones exterior features and design. Both are designed well. Definitely not ugly by any stretch of the imagination. The AXON 7 was designed with help from BMW and significantly improves on the previous generation iteration, like having actual speakers in both of the speaker grill looking forward facing top and bottom of screen. I do have the gold AXON 7... the color isn't the greatest but I wasn't going to wait for the gray one to come out to test it... I might return the gold for a gray if they become available in my return window. The OnePlus 3 is a pretty phone too. It doesn't have a firm like BMW attached to it, but one feels they did a good job of improving on the OnePlus 2 design without getting away from their bread and butter core design elements. With that, I love the alert slider... call me an isheep but I feel to this day that it is the single greatest design advantage the iPhone has had over any Android phone for years now. Although not as perfectly functional as Apples is, the OnePlus 3 is a great feature. Both have excellent fingerprint readers. Very fast. For my use case, a front facing fingerprint reader is better. That's my use case, in a cradle, in my car, that I get in and out of while sometime leaving my phone in the cradle, makes the front facing reader slightly more convenient. NFC chip and camera placement good on both as well. AXON 7 does have one design characteristic that I found annoying and I noticed while playing Clash Royale.... the power button is on the right side of the phone near the center. While playing and trying to drag drop to the top of the screen, you can easily inadvertently toggle the on/off button, this might be the button is overly sensitive or just my clumsiness. OnePlus 3 scores some extras too with swapstyle cases... Why can't other phone manufacturers take notes here. I think it is great that I can get relatively cheap exclusively designed nice looking cases for my OnePlus 3... for the AXON 7, I'm stuck with Chinese knock off cheesy poop designed cases with TPU raining from skies... I need a case and sure the first thing that comes to mind when I get a nice looking professionally designed by BMW phone is to put it into a TPU trashcan of a case because 0.0 (zero point zero) cases by ZTE are available or even look worthy of residing on the phone.... yep, I so love it. AXON 7 does step it up with one thing, SD card compatibility. More storage... sure I can use that anytime...
WINNER: TIED - OnePlus 3 would have won here, but not having SD Card capability is just dumb... especially since you used the space for a dual SIM.
CAMERA
I have done a couple of these reviews and every time I point out that I am not a big fan of cameras on phones. I went to school for photography and movie making back when film was still used. Have seen lenses that cost more than my current house and have seen Ansel Adams original prints first hand. So, it makes me a camera snob... thus, my opinion of on phone cameras is that they are all Bantha PooDoo. However, improvements are made with every new phone and even though innovations have seem to slow in favor of the pixel wars... one day they might be great.
Looking at both and later I will put up some similar shots from both, each phone have decent cameras. The OnePlus performs better in low light especially however I would not count the AXON 7 out in the cold as I feel that the AXON 7's low light difficulties might be able to be corrected with feature updates. The AXON 7 does have it's ripoff version of a "live photo" that works pretty decent plus some decent scenario modes that just work better for pictures I may take. The OnePlus 3's camera software is just basic with good custom manual settings. The AXON 7 has manual mode as well. Like I said, I will upload some similar shots from each and you can decide.
WINNER: TBD
CONCLUSION
So, what can I conclude? Both phones are awesome... Both have plus and minuses. I don't think there's a clear hands down winner and would not want to argue that point. I can only tell you that beyond everything else that the lack of a system-wide equalizer for sound just annoys little brown stinkies out of me. My commute to work is a big part of my day sometimes 7 days a week. I want to listen to Sirius XM app and Google Play Music so it sound great in my car. I want to set some equalization that make it sound awesome then forget it is even there. Not constant resetting of bass boost, tweaking sound to have it all reset again and again. Why provide a basic equalizer in Google Play Music on the OnePlus 3 that always has the bass setting reset when a call comes in, you switch to a new app or the crappy RAM Management software kicks it out of memory even though you locked it into memory on the all apps screen? That just pains me... If OnePlus does listen to their customer base, maybe just maybe they will add one in a future OTA update. Who knows. Having had the original AXON, I have to say that this phone is definitely an improvement and is worth checking out if you liked the original. I am still a little off-put by the fact that ZTE has done very little to support this phone with accessories like cases and stuff making me hit Aliexpress for the Oscar the Grouch specials that they have there. Could you survive with either one of these phones as your next new phone... of course! Hopefully, this little review will help you out in that decision. Lastly and as always, this is just Some Guys Opinion...
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Thanks but no thanks... You actually didn't influence my thoughts. More like 1 step forward, 1 step backward, your pros fit both phones matched your cons
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Thanks for your comparison! Not sure why people are so arrogant or condescending. Appreciate your effort writing this up so some of us can make a better decision.
ashburton said:
Thanks but no thanks... You actually didn't influence my thoughts. More like 1 step forward, 1 step backward, your pros fit both phones matched your cons
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That's the whole point. Too many so called "real" reviews online do not give an honest opinion and are influenced by the author getting free stuff, free phone, etc. My point is to not make you say "hey I need to go get one of these phones now" but rather "I did know that and didn't know this... now I do." Thanks for reading!
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Thanks for your comparison! Not sure why people are so arrogant or condescending. Appreciate your effort writing this up so some of us can make a better decision.
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Yep!! You got the point exactly. I'm not here to "influence" anyone into making a decision. I'm not a ZTE or OP3 salesperson. Just laying out real world facts as I see them (Thus the title of the post). Too many blog reviews make phones out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread or the bottom layer of poop in an unattended bird cage (like the stuff stuck to newspaper on the bottom). The fact of the matter is that these people tend to be influenced in other ways (monetarily, free stuff, etc.) to make or break a review. Just because I posted in the AXON 7 forum, does not mean that the AXON 7 wins every category automatically. The AXON 7 is a good phone but not without some flaws, same with the OP3. It's knowing what flaws you can live with and which ones you can't that should influence your decision rather than Some Guys Opinion hahahahahaha :highfive:
Post some stats of battery life comparison. I highly doubt the A7 gets better battery than the OP3.
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Nope I meant to call you "bra" and spell check had my back. Bruh is for my bruhs. "Bra" is for someone exactly like you because since you must wear them since you're a little biatch... Trolling flaming gnome. Go get in line for Harry Potter and have a nice day BRA
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I'm an American and am embarrassed to read what you wrote.
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I'm an American and am embarrassed to read what you wrote.
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You are an American?
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I'm an American and am embarrassed to read what you wrote.
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I am too but he stopped commenting so there's that. Sorry I know it was very lame
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Post some stats of battery life comparison. I highly doubt the A7 gets better battery than the OP3.
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Didn't say it did actually.... I said it performed similarly. I also said that the OP3 actually charges faster. Why did I pick the AXON 7 then.... well, that's the question isn't?
Oh wait... it's right there in the Battery paragraph if you only took time to read thoroughly... thanks!
I guess, that the snappiness of the OnePlus 3 isn't only because of more Ram, but also because of the much slimmer Oxygen OS.
I didn't receive my OnePlus 3 so far, but even when it's faster, I think I can't live without those awesome speakers of the ZTE Axon 7.
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Didn't say it did actually.... I said it performed similarly. I also said that the OP3 actually charges faster. Why did I pick the AXON 7 then.... well, that's the question isn't?
Oh wait... it's right there in the Battery paragraph if you only took time to read thoroughly... thanks!
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Your review was kind of big b.s that's why no time to waste on reading all of it. Do a better job next time. Thanks!
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Cypher_01 said:
I guess, that the snappiness of the OnePlus 3 isn't only because of more Ram, but also because of the much slimmer Oxygen OS.
I didn't receive my OnePlus 3 so far, but even when it's faster, I think I can't live without those awesome speakers of the ZTE Axon 7.
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Yep. I wish I could get past the sound thing. Unfortunately it consumes about an hour of my day everyday if not longer. You'll enjoy the OP3. Great phone!!
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Your review was kind of big b.s that's why no time to waste on reading all of it. Do a better job next time. Thanks!
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Why is it a bs review? Explain
I have had a Nexus 6P since August 2016 and originally I loved the phone, beautiful display, snappy performance, stock Android, and a terrific camera. But over the months I've started to dislike it more and more. Bulky, heavy brick with a battery that would drop 1% every minute and wouldn't hold charge well even when on airplane mode powered down. And when I did charge it up, it would overheat like a ***** and if I really needed to use the phone while charging, it would lag the phone so hard despite running "one of the smoothest Android experiences on the market." And somedays the phone would just be blazing hot (not fast ) and I would have to throw it in the freezer to cool off. (and gaming was even worse so I stopped, so great waste of 64GB storage)
Moving on from battery and charging; I loved the stereo speakers for blasting videos but taking phone calls, I could barely hear anyone and would have to press phone super close to my ear drum to hear, and when I had iPhone there was no problem like that.
The screen was great, bright vivid but drained battery so I used black wallpaper and srgb mode. I got tired of the onscreen key nav buttons and there was no immersive mode. I was surprised there was no dark theme nor night mode for this phone. Yes the screen was solid and didn't take any scratches or cracks from falls nor from laying next to my keys. And the brightness settings were so fake. Yes you had a toggle from low to high, but the screen was literally the same brightness no matter what option you selected, only the battery saver option would actually dim the screen which is ridiculous. And talking about dim screens -- impossible to see anything on it even at "max brightness" outdoors, even shaded areas I would have to squint so much to make out "oh missed call from mom."
Not everything was bad, I did love the Google Feed and the Data Saver option when I had to watch my data usage but doesn't apply when I have an unlimited data plan. I was actually shocked by the lack of customizability with this phone. You couldn't do much with it. Yay you can move apps wherever and leave hugs gaps on screen and add some widgets but that was about it. Again no dark themes, little choice for wallpaper, no options for multi gesture other than 2-press power button to quick launch camera... But that camera was beautiful but was a nightmare when trying to pics outdoors, b.c you can't see whats on the screen.... And that super laggy HDR tho. Froze my phone several times as well. Snapchat lags everyday with phone as well.
And then the nail in the coffin was the Boot Loop of Death. I was on my way to Yankee Stadium, meeting up with a few friends when it happened. Phone in pocket and I go pull it out to make a call to figure what Gate we are all meeting up at and I see the Google logo. So I think to myself how weird, maybe my slim jeans (i don't wear skinny) were too tight and turned the phone off? So i try turning it on and yep you know what the loop of death is. Made my phone blazing hot and unusable. And my electronic ticket for the game was on there as well.... (luckily I made the game b.c of someone's reliable iPhone) Then the support to get this issue resolved was a nightmare. Google refused since it wasn't bought from their online store; Best Buy refused unless I payed $140; and so I shipped to Huawei and it took then 4 WEEKS to repair it (including a WHOLE WEEK to send me a shipping label THRU EMAIL!!!!) Ridiculous!!!
So overall a shocking terrible experience despite what everyone (esp. major tech vloggers on Youtube said). Never again am I purchasing a google phone. Utterly and purely disgusting. Oh hang, you may say it get timely updates! Um ok, so I say to you why get get updates as soon as they launch when you know there may be problems with that update as well which will make your phone unstable. (Forgot which update it was which made the SIM card not readable...)
Wow so um this kinda turned out to be a rant, but my question is: Is it worth upgrading from the Nexus 6P in 2017?
And if so which phone would you choose ($500 max price range -> unless there is a deal with a flagship phone)
Is the OnePLus 5 a good choice to upgrade too?
No IMHO. Most of the things that you described that you hate seem to be from Bad apps or something reacting badly with your phone. Battery wise also replace the battery and it's good to go for another year. Find out the culprit that is heating up your phone and get rid of it and you should be good to go again. I've had absolutely no issues with my phone and when I did it was because of an app not because of the phone.
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No IMHO. Most of the things that you described that you hate seem to be from Bad apps or something reacting badly with your phone. Battery wise also replace the battery and it's good to go for another year. Find out the culprit that is heating up your phone and get rid of it and you should be good to go again. I've had absolutely no issues with my phone and when I did it was because of an app not because of the phone.
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How do I even replace the battery, I'm not breaking the phone. This doesn't have a removable back. Also even when I got the phone shipped back to me from Huawei it would heat up like a pancake and all I had were the stock apps that were downloaded with the phone. If you seem to have no problem with yours, I'll gladly trade my phone for yours since as you said "the phone is good to go."
Also how is waking up to a phone that actually gave me burns ok? And the phone was off....
Can I get a professional opinion?
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How do I even replace the battery, I'm not breaking the phone. This doesn't have a removable back. Also even when I got the phone shipped back to me from Huawei it would heat up like a pancake and all I had were the stock apps that were downloaded with the phone. If you seem to have no problem with yours, I'll gladly trade my phone for yours since as you said "the phone is good to go."
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I said MY phone is good to go. Also just stating my opinion as per the IMHO.
i dont seem to have the problems you described however the snapdragon 810 is known for being warm, like my Xperia Z3+ 810 was heating up like crazy, i could cooked a whole egg on it. But that phone was a complete mess.. closed sourced phone.. all we could do is temper with the kernel , underclock etc..
Nr 1, dont use original facebook/messenger/cancer app, use a lite version etc..
2. Debloat your phone
3. Dont play games
4Mess around with diffrent kernels and find what suits you.
Also if youre a owner of the nexus line phones, then you need to flash custom roms/kernels. Thats almost the only reason ive gotten my self a 6p (big screen , good sound, awsome camera)
if u want a close "google stock rom" experience try Cortex Rom.
The fact that the phone does not have a removable back will not prevent you from replacing the battery, plenty of teardowns available everywhere.
If your phone came back from Huawei in such bad conditions, you should contact them again.
I have mine since April 2016 and I replaced my battery last week, now it's running great again. I managed to replace the battery cuz I don't see any reasonable phone to replace my N6P, I'm putting my hope on Pixel 2 (despite the price) - might be an option.
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i dont seem to have the problems you described however the snapdragon 810 is known for being warm, like my Xperia Z3+ 810 was heating up like crazy, i could cooked a whole egg on it. But that phone was a complete mess.. closed sourced phone.. all we could do is temper with the kernel , underclock etc..
Nr 1, dont use original facebook/messenger/cancer app, use a lite version etc..
2. Debloat your phone
3. Dont play games
4Mess around with diffrent kernels and find what suits you.
Also if youre a owner of the nexus line phones, then you need to flash custom roms/kernels. Thats almost the only reason ive gotten my self a 6p (big screen , good sound, awsome camera)
if u want a close "google stock rom" experience try Cortex Rom.
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How do I debloat my phone? I barely have anything on it anyway. And yes I don't use Facebook messenger nor the app. And when I buy a phone expect the software to have basic features included which is why I got Nexus 6P with the stock Android since I was coming from a line of iPhones ever since 3GS. That's why the OnePlus interests me, it's has the software and the customizability already there.
Yep that's why I got the 6P as well, big screen; loud stereo; and good camera. But other than that atrocious. It makes me want to cry. (And the on screen keys take up too much space)
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The fact that the phone does not have a removable back will not prevent you from replacing the battery, plenty of teardowns available everywhere.
If your phone came back from Huawei in such bad conditions, you should contact them again.
I have mine since April 2016 and I replaced my battery last week, now it's running great again. I managed to replace the battery cuz I don't see any reasonable phone to replace my N6P, I'm putting my hope on Pixel 2 (despite the price) - might be an option.
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Not even the OnePlus 5?
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Not even the OnePlus 5?
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I must say that I don't know much about this phone. Is it stock / easy to tweak as Nexus is? If yes, I might consider it as well.
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I must say that I don't know much about this phone. Is it stock / easy to tweak as Nexus is? If yes, I might consider it as well.
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Yes it's stock Android with a light skin over which gives even more useful features like dark mode and etc.
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Yes it's stock Android with a light skin over which gives even more useful features like dark mode and etc.
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I saw some pictures of it and I'm not that impressed, I still have faith on Pixel XL 2 - S8+ is a very decent phone too, but the screen proportion they adopted now made me sad
I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but I'm waiting to see the Pixel XL 2. Unless it adds significant features that the 6P is lacking like water resistance, dual cameras, and smaller bezels, I might wait for the Pixel 3 or OnePlus 6/5T.
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I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but I'm waiting to see the Pixel XL 2. Unless it adds significant features that the 6P is lacking like water resistance, dual cameras, and smaller bezels, I might wait for the Pixel 3 or OnePlus 6/5T.
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Man all you guys (n gals) seem to love the Nexus 6P...
But why??? I don't understand. It's such a heavy piece of hot garage.
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Man all you guys (n gals) seem to love the Nexus 6P...
But why??? I don't understand. It's such a heavy piece of hot garage.
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Not if you run a good ROM and kernel, I only have heat issues when compiling substratum themes
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Man all you guys (n gals) seem to love the Nexus 6P...
But why??? I don't understand. It's such a heavy piece of hot garage.
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I've had nothing but a great experience with my 6P. No complaints whatsoever. If someone else is having issues, that's them, not me.
If your car has been running flawless for 10 years but your neighbor with the same car has broken down countless time, does that mean your car is garbage?
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I've had nothing but a great experience with my 6P. No complaints whatsoever. If someone else is having issues, that's them, not me.
If your car has been running flawless for 10 years but your neighbor with the same car has broken down countless time, does that mean your car is garbage?
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Ridiculous how it has to be a luck of a draw when you purchase a device....
Disappointing. Anyways got a lawsuit against Google and Huawei already in motion.
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Ridiculous how it has to be a luck of a draw when you purchase a device....
Disappointing. Anyways got a lawsuit against Google and Huawei already in motion.
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Unfortunately, it occurs with all devices. I've seen every device I've owned since the OG Droid have their share of complaints. Some companies offer a return policy in the event you don't like the device and offer warranty for defects.
I've seen people complain about device defects but refuse to get a warranty exchange? Others complain about not being able to get an exchange past the warranty expiration.
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Just get an iphone. You seem to have drunk their marketing juice, and you will always complain until you get an iphone.
Just get an iphone, and enjoy Apples "reliability"
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Just get an iphone. You seem to have drunk their marketing juice, and you will always complain until you get an iphone.
Just get an iphone, and enjoy Apples "reliability"
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Why is this the go to for everyone on here? Do we need to be die hard on either or side and make fun of peoples preferences?
Reminds me of the pathetic Dodge vs. ford people and it's pretty sad.
I just sold my iPhone tbh
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Why is this the go to for everyone on here? Do we need to be die hard on either or side and make fun of peoples preferences?
Reminds me of the pathetic Dodge vs. ford people and it's pretty sad.
I just sold my iPhone tbh
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I dont mind people supporting the brands they like, but I prefer arguments. I know what iphones are like. I have seen the 4s first hand. And not only was I not impressed, I was shocked at the amount of overhead in simply transfering files.
Then I was shocked at how Apple nickle and dimed everything.
Even if the device was perfect, I would refuse to support Apple becuase of their greed and anti-consumer decisions.
They could be using standard technology, but they use propietary one, and as a result make every gadget expensive.
They dont support headphone jacks.
Their devices are obscenely expensive for what they offer.
They force people to use itunes.
You cant install third-party stores, unlike in android.
The interesting part is that other OEMs copy apple, from their design to their hardware decisions.
Apple makes the OS 64bit, others follow!
Apple introduces fingerprint scanner, OEMs follow!
Apple removes headpohone jack, OEMs follow!
Motorola, HTC, OPPO, Huawei,Xiaomi, Samsung, LG
All of them copy apple.
They are the "champion" of the smartphone business.
If apple decided tomorow to offer smartphones without screeens, you can bet your kidneys they will copy Apple.
So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
Better get over it, non-removable batteries seem to be the norm now.
they still make those?
i have not used a phone with a removeable battery in ages! i didnt even know phones were still being made with hot swappable/removable batteries...
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i have not used a phone with a removeable battery in ages! i didnt even know phones were still being made with hot swappable/removable batteries...
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LG V20 had a removable battery, that is the phone I got to replace my Note7.
I just read that the LG V30 doesn't.
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So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
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U sound delusional.. Sorry had to tell you homie..
I think your comments are on point. I came from the note 4 and have exactly the same complaints.
asmd6230 said:
So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
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Not being disrespectful, but since the Note 5 (sealed battery) and Note 7 (non flat screen) we have known that Samsung have changed the design path for the Note series. They only change was to add back SD card storage after the Note 5. Frankly, given that drop in prices of the Note 5, it may be a better option for Note 4 users who don't like the edge screen design. The screen quality of my Note 5 is amazing.
jah said:
Not being disrespectful, but since the Note 5 (sealed battery) and Note 7 (non flat screen) we have known that Samsung have changed the design path for the Note series.
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The original poster has known it but doesn't like it.
Seems reasonable to me.
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- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
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This bit I don't understand.
The fact your N4 suffered a charging failure doesn't really support your argument
But you genuinely believe N4 > N8 build quality?
I went from N4 to N7 and was blown away by the improvement. Am still waiting for my pre-ordered N8...
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- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
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Yeah this took a little getting used to. And in my case, having spent the previous four years taking the p*ss out of iPhone owning friends for their not being able to replace batteries, it was humble pie time.
Fast charge really helps soften the blow.
im going along for the ride with this non removable battery thing.
This is my first and probably last. plonking down 1k for phone with obsolesce built it is crazy... i believe the removable battery/sd/user configurable phone will make a come back.
I wanted the best tech of the time... camera etc, but at the same time i also appreciate the value of my dollar. Samsung says the N8 battery will still hold 97% charge after 2 years.. new tech? i dont know and i find this hard to believe. time will tell. Phone is great, the non removable battery thing is what it is.
I would still be using my note 4, its plenty nice enough to do what i need it to do save poor camera performance in low light... and of course its never going to be as snappy as new tech, but it works just fine otherwise. but after several units failed on me, thought id upgrade to the latest and greatest. as i said, N8 is an awesome phone and has improved on the N4. faster performance, better cameras.... supposed to be better everything, not a front camera that takes a narrower picture than the previous one.
stylus on a curved screen makes no sense, Samsung should come out with one with a flat screen for power pen users.
and nobody has mentioned the field of view of the front camera is less than the Note 4. (i went from note 2 to 4 to 8, so i cant comment on the FOV of the front camera of the N5... maybe somebody here with a N5 can chime in?) its a small gripe for most, but for me... i loved the fact i could do a group selfie with my Note 4. am sure i will get used tot he n8... i just cant fathom why Samsung did this.
I-devices never worked for me. coming from Windows CE (how i loved those ipaqs and dopods... ), Android simply worked. shame MS killed of windows CE. MS phones werent all that either... been there and that.
now waiting for a device that will run full win 10 with a stylus and really great cameras!!
Non removable battery, was a trade for waterproofing, my note 5 is still going good, and s7e runs like a champ. Both have non removable batteries.
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"Non removable battery, was a trade for waterproofing, my note 5 is still going good, and s7e runs like a champ. Both have non removable batteries. "
that is good to know. def reassuring.
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now waiting for a device that will run full win 10 with a stylus and really great cameras!!
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Hear, hear.
After the way Samsung UK dealt with the N7 recall, I'm just waiting to jump from samsung to any large phone with integrated stylus.
I haven't swapped batteries even in all of the S and Note series devices I've had since the Galaxy S3, even though I had the option. I could care less about swappable batteries.
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Hear, hear.
After the way Samsung UK dealt with the N7 recall, I'm just waiting to jump from samsung to any large phone with integrated stylus.
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Does this exist?
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Does this exist?
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Not that I know of.
asmd6230 said:
So,
I'm coming from a Note 4, the N8 does bear some getting used to.
It's a lot of pluses, so im going to only point out the negatives that have irked me.
- the front camera has a smaller field of view than the Note 4... that makes no sense, i would have expected to be wider if anything to take group selfies, unless theres a mode somewhere im not seeing.
- build. honestly, the Note 4 is build better, rear plastic door and all. My Note 4 suffered a charging failure and yet i was able to go on using it by simply swapping batteries.
- i may regret buying a phone without a replaceable battery. *EEK!!*
- having to write ona screen with a curved edge makes no sense. especially when utilizing the whole screen. it may get some taking used to but definitely makes no sense. would prefer a flat screen.
these are my gripes so far... especially the camera, i just dont get that one.
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You can go into the camera settings and change the front camera resolution to 16:9 6.0 m. You'll have a wider view, and same goes for the back camera.
Another option while in selfie mode, swipe the screen left to right. Here you have a mode called wide selfie, and others.
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After the v30 opting for non removable battery, the removable battery at a flagship level is dead.
Theres a youtube video of someone showing how to replace the battery. I have done what that guy did on many phones. Never had a problem. Very easy.
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Nope.
I've had Notes since the #2 and am getting the Note 8. In my opinion, it's by far the best phone but from a company that has treated its UK customers with contempt.
Hoping this time next year to see some competition that will mean I don't buy the Note 9...
Replaceable batteries is a thing of the past.
These are sealed devices essentially.
I like it personally. No more detachable backs!
That was one thing that always stood out when it came to iphone build quality feel vs. android.
The latter always felt cheap and creaky. The Note4 was the exception. It did feel solid for having a removable back.
If there is one gripe I have is the omission of the IR Blaster! Loved that feature.
Now, it would appear the only way that will come back is if Apple brings it to their lineup!
The UV sensor on the Note4 was neat too even if it wasn't very accurate.
I don't expect the (Note 8) to be the jump over the S8+ that the Note 7 was over the S7E. But we'll see.
Note 9 was announce today and all the leaks were right it will be a clone of the Note 8 what's small little cheap upgrades like little bit bigger battery S-Pen take pictures and crap. The biggest disappointment was the finger print scaner that they have ready but decided to say screw you to Note customers. Samsung is trying to pull a Apple on us. Big big disappointment and Samsung wonders why the S9 was a flop why? Because you made the S9 just like the S8 to save money. Then you do the same mistake again with the Note9? Samsung you want to sell a lot of phones... Every year pack the new phones with as much new tech and change the design it's that easy. Samsung knew the S9 was a flop and why it was a flop and yall still put out this clone Note 9? I am sticking with my Note 8. Might see what other companies are doing since Samsung stuck us with this crap. Good way to loose customers. Are yall going to be suckered into the Note 9 or sticking with the Note8
I m surprised that there is no UK promotion... In the US you get free headphones worth 300usd and in the UK nothing at all...
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There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
Will not get it, if you have a Note 8, it's barely a decent upgrade and not worth wasting your money.
I might get the next large iPhone X that comes out or the Pixel 3, but if they don't interest me, I'll keep my Note 8 for another year, its been a great phone!
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There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
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Huawei is coming out with a phone with a 6.9 in screen super slim and it has 8gb ram and 4,000mah battery. The only thing I am impressed about on the Note 9 is 8gb of ram 512GB I barely use my 64 gigabytes on this phone and if I need more I have a 256gb card in my phone too. This will flop just like the S9 did all they had to do is put that damn finger print scaner in the display and this Note9 would've been their best selling phone by far Apple fans wouldve bought one. But no they screwed us and held back. 1,257 dollars ha ha for that it better have the finger print scaner in the display and I want the whole phone redesigned. People want a fresh new phone every year. Look at the Note 7 and the Note 8 that's the kinda of change people want those 2 phone don't look alike
Not getting it. The fact that it is releasing with Android Oreo is a killer for me. I'm tired of being the last to receive updates. Essential already has a Pie firmware out for their device, many other manufacturers were part of the Pie beta using the GSIs and Samsung held back. Now this amazing phone with over the top specs and a price to match is releasing with a year old OS and their roadmap for their other phones is targeting 8.1. No thanks, Samsung is still living in the past.
Edit: also, I don't want a purple phone or a bright yellow s-pen. The color options available today are horrendous.
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Note 9 was announce today and all the leaks were right it will be a clone of the Note 8 what's small little cheap upgrades like little bit bigger battery S-Pen take pictures and crap. The biggest disappointment was the finger print scaner that they have ready but decided to say screw you to Note customers. Samsung is trying to pull a Apple on us. Big big disappointment and Samsung wonders why the S9 was a flop why? Because you made the S9 just like the S8 to save money. Then you do the same mistake again with the Note9? Samsung you want to sell a lot of phones... Every year pack the new phones with as much new tech and change the design it's that easy. Samsung knew the S9 was a flop and why it was a flop and yall still put out this clone Note 9? I am sticking with my Note 8. Might see what other companies are doing since Samsung stuck us with this crap. Good way to loose customers. Are yall going to be suckered into the Note 9 or sticking with the Note8
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What is wrong with the fingerprint scanner that you're so upset about? You wanted an in-display reader? You have some awfully high expectations. It takes a very long time to design, prototype, test and create these devices. They've likely been working on creating the Note9 before the S9 was released. It's not just a one or two month process. Whatever it is you think that flopped the S9, they couldn't have known that would be an issue by the time they started designing the Note9. What exactly is the "same mistake" they made with the Note9 that they made with the S9 also, anyway?
Regarding your question: I'm not going to get the Note9, because I'm on a 2-year contract and I got the Note8 only about 4 months ago. I'm going to have to wait for the Note10.
Nope. For two reasons:
1. I see only the battery as noticeable change (Stylus also, but for now I don't think I will use the BT functionality);
2. I am not so rich to swap phones like this.
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Not getting it. The fact that it is releasing with Android Oreo is a killer for me. I'm tired of being the last to receive updates. Essential already has a Pie firmware out for their device, many other manufacturers were part of the Pie beta using the GSIs and Samsung held back. Now this amazing phone with over the top specs and a price to match is releasing with a year old OS and their roadmap for their other phones is targeting 8.1. No thanks, Samsung is still living in the past.
Edit: also, I don't want a purple phone or a bright yellow s-pen. The color options available today are horrendous.
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Samsung upgrades their android only once at beginning of the year.
For example The S10 Will come with Android P Then Note 9 will receive it. Expect it in May 2019
Yeah this is bad. The large issue with Note 9 that their is no UX Difference and selfie camera is the same, so yeah you get an extra shutter button on s pen and a 20%
battery increase for 1200$. At this point I would just pay 300$ to get a 512 gb sd on my 64 gb note 8 if I need that kind of storage.
Weren't we promised with crown ux or samsung ditched it for the s10?
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Samsung upgrades their android only once at beginning of the year.
For example The S10 Will come with Android P Then Note 9 will receive it. Expect it in May 2019
Yeah this is bad. The large issue with Note 9 that their is no UX Difference and selfie camera is the same, so yeah you get an extra shutter button on s pen and a 20%
battery increase for 1200$. At this point I would just pay 300$ to get a 512 gb sd on my 64 gb note 8 if I need that kind of storage.
Weren't we promised with crown ux or samsung ditched it for the s10?
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Ive never found space to be an issue with 64gb so while nice, the added storage is not driving my
desire for a new phone. The battery increase is nice. I'm definitely looking for a phone with at minimum 4000mah. I use my s-pen for sketching wood shop projects, and the occasional note and that's really all. So the enhancements there are lost on me.
You're absolutely right about the upgrade schedule. It made sense before project treble when creating the new system images took way more effort. And this isn't just directed at Samsung. I am looking for an "upgrade" to my note 8. But I won't be buying any phone that doesn't come with Android P out of the box or available through GSI. I have no problem flashing a rom to get it. It's why I love the Android platform. And maybe just because my note 8 is such a fantastic phone already, now's the time to use another manufacturers device. I was particularly fond of the Razer phone I played with at the Microsoft store and if the ROG phone ever gets released maybe that will provide me the experience I want. I'm not getting rid of my note 8, and I think it's a great phone to fall back on, but I don't see the note 9 in my future.
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There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
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And you'll buy it, put it side by side next to your Note 8 and wonder why on earth you bothered spending so much money when you got essentially, a slightly bigger battery and a marginally bigger phone......That's it.
The reason the Note 9 has a bigger battery is because it's constantly charging the cap in the BLE S-Pen, real world, it won't be any better than what you already have except for the BLE gimmicks you won't use.
Very poor value for money if you're coming from a Note 8 already.
I totally agree.
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And you'll buy it, put it side by side next to your Note 8 and wonder why on earth you bothered spending so much money when you got essentially, a slightly bigger battery and a marginally bigger phone......That's it.
The reason the Note 9 has a bigger battery is because it's constantly charging the cap in the BLE S-Pen, real world, it won't be any better than what you already have except for the BLE gimmicks you won't use.
Very poor value for money if you're coming from a Note 8 already.
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I don't think it is poor value for money in my opinion. We all have reasons why we think we would get it or not. It may not be your impression but it feels to me as if saying Yes means you have made a wrong choice. Each to his own but for me, I will trade my note 8 for the note 9.
Storage, Battery size chiefly swayed me. Like many others, I am disappointed by Samsung for not doing more. But I think the Note 9 for me personally is worthy of the upgrade.
@Alex---1, Do you have any source that the battery is bigger because it is constantly charging the S-Pen? I don't the phone will be constantly changing the S-Pen but even if so, I really don't think the S-Pen would draw that much power. But of course, it is my humble opinion and would be happy to be corrected. You may be right but I think it is too early to draw that conclusion.
I really appreciate the comments I have read so far about the reasons why people will go for it or not. I can't wait to read that of others.
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I don't think it is poor value for money in my opinion. We all have reasons why we think we would get it or not. It may not be your impression but it feels to me as if saying Yes means you have made a wrong choice. Each to his own but for me, I will trade my note 8 for the note 9.
Storage, Battery size chiefly swayed me. Like many others, I am disappointed by Samsung for not doing more. But I think the Note 9 for me personally is worthy of the upgrade.
@Alex---1, Do you have any source that the battery is bigger because it is constantly charging the S-Pen? I don't the phone will be constantly changing the S-Pen but even if so, I really don't think the S-Pen would draw that much power. But of course, it is my humble opinion and would be happy to be corrected. You may be right but I think it is too early to draw that conclusion.
I really appreciate the comments I have read so far about the reasons why people will go for it or not. I can't wait to read that of others.
Cheers,
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Each to their own on what they spend their money on but it really is quite the waste if you've got a Note 8.
I don't need a source for the S-Pen charging, I'm an electronics engineer, I design these things for a living. The S-Pen will not have a battery, it'll have a small super capacitor inside that'll get a burst of induction current from the phones battery, which will then gradually deplete over a few minutes till the phone has to give it another burst of current.
Depending on how often you use the BLE stuff throughout a day you'll likely see battery life no better than the Note 8. It's only another 700mA of juice. 5-6 gulps from the S-Pen throughout the day and you'll see very little to no difference between the 2 devices.
No, I will be sticking with my Note 8. I'm more than happy with the 8 and see no valid reason for spending another $1000.00 on a phone that I mainly use for reading and listening to audio. It really isn't worth the expense to "upgrade" from a perfectly good working phone that exceeds my needs. Besides that I'm still paying for mine and will be for the foreseeable future.
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Depending on how often you use the BLE stuff throughout a day you'll likely see battery life no better than the Note 8. It's only another 700mA of juice. 5-6 gulps from the S-Pen throughout the day and you'll see very little to no difference between the 2 devices.
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You are spot on with this.
700 Mah is 20% increase and your display have higher ppi [that you won't notice] will drain that mah any way.
I also want to warn exynos users the exynos processor in 2018 is terrible at battery life [see s9 for refrence]
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700 Mah is 20% increase and your display have higher ppi [that you won't notice] will drain that mah any way.
I also want to warn exynos users the exynos processor in 2018 is terrible at battery life [see s9 for refrence]
Cool Person said:
700 Mah is 20% increase and your display have higher ppi [that you won't notice] will drain that mah any way.
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Actually the Note 9 has a slightly lower PPI than the Note 8...larger screen, but same resolution. The very negligible difference in PPI won't really affect real-world battery life either way though.
Using the Note 8 with a locked bootloader next to the OnePlus 6.
Note 9 is just expensive. Locked bootloader in the U.S. and cannot afford the phone upfront so would have to go with a carrier. The promotion of the Samsung Gifts for pre-order is just plain bad. I remember I got a free Google Home with the Lg G6 that was only $700.
People need to stop fueling Samsung. I am feeling forced just to go trade-in my phone for an iPhone X which I would probably not enjoy just because I am mad at Samsung.
Only two colors available are purple and blue/yellow. Neither are for me.
Great Info
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Each to their own on what they spend their money on but it really is quite the waste if you've got a Note 8.
I don't need a source for the S-Pen charging, I'm an electronics engineer, I design these things for a living. The S-Pen will not have a battery, it'll have a small super capacitor inside that'll get a burst of induction current from the phones battery, which will then gradually deplete over a few minutes till the phone has to give it another burst of current.
Depending on how often you use the BLE stuff throughout a day you'll likely see battery life no better than the Note 8. It's only another 700mA of juice. 5-6 gulps from the S-Pen throughout the day and you'll see very little to no difference between the 2 devices.
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I see your point and I thank you for it though, honestly. I am still getting the note 9 though.
Thanks all.