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Hey guys, my girlfriend is planning on buying a new phone, so I've been doing some research for her and looked at Xperia J, P and Sola. It seems many people have problems related to the wifi, battery and touchscreen (mostly wifi though). It seems they all agree that after updating to ICS, the problems occur. Otherwise, it's fine on GB.
My question is, are these problems fixed in the latest stock rom or in any of the custom roms? If not, I should probably stay away from it because my girlfriend isn't tech savy like I am, so she wouldn't know what to do or even want to bother with flashing kernels or mods or fixes etc.
You could say that she could just get something easy to use, like an iPhone or something, but that's expensive and out of the question.
Anyway I would appreciate if you guys could share your problems and feedback, thanks.
I would say none of these phones, she would be unhappy with all I think lol, get a HTC or Samsung
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Well, that goes without saying, of course I would get those if I could, but they're expensive and I'm looking for budget mid range phones like these.
She likes the look and style of Sony phones, so please just focus on the question thanks.
chaoscreater said:
Well, that goes without saying, of course I would get those if I could, but they're expensive and I'm looking for budget mid range phones like these.
She likes the look and style of Sony phones, so please just focus on the question thanks.
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Get her to shop and let her choose. Every phone on market has some kind of problems, so question is what is acceptable.
Personally i would go with P, awesone camera, great phone, nice sound and plenty of roms and kernels to choose. And it got cheaper... oh yea and us receiving JB now...
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i prefer to P :laugh:
i think its time to send a clear loud message about the camera issue with z ultra, and ask sony for a clarification of whether this issue with the camera is a software issue or a hardware issue, can someone please take the lead to roll this petition to the attention of sony
Or you guys could just return it and get the Z1? Why do people care about the camera which aren't even what the phone is about?
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Or you guys could just return it and get the Z1? Why do people care about the camera which aren't even what the phone is about?
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I don't know.. Last time i used the camera was in september.. and before that when i used my Note i would maybe take 20 photos a year. People who bought the ZU and thought that the camera would be great, didn't do enough research. BUT still, the camera is fantastically bad, and Sony should correct this so it's possible to use it without being shocked every time we use it. It's currently on the same level as my old Game Boy camera. Fine, it's not but it's close.
And about the "petition". Forget about it. It's the least effective thing in the world. Contact them directly and talk to a human being. It works much better, and you'll know that your message has been received. If possible, try to get transfered to the dev section.
When I bought this phone, I knew I was getting a dismal camera. I don't know anyone that bought the phone thinking this was something that they were going to use a lot. It was the screen size...
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hykhleif said:
i think its time to send a clear loud message about the camera issue with z ultra, and ask sony for a clarification of whether this issue with the camera is a software issue or a hardware issue, can someone please take the lead to roll this petition to the attention of sony
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I like where your heads at... however Lord is right. Partitions don't do anything.
- What is it now 700,000 about not getting GTA5 on PC? LOL... I'm sure the 500,000,000 dollars they would lose not releasing it for PC would be worth a smile on 700,000 faces.
email/ messages/ written can be look and moved on.
Voice and calling is more personal and will get more attention. I don't mind the camera for quick snaps. My DSLR will always win in a shoot off..
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When I first got my device, I called my mobile provider to enable 3G connectivity, and had to quote my IMEI number. The guy at the end of the phone didn't have a clue what device it was. He did a google, and almost sh*t himself. How did you get that? I've never seen it before... I want it!..
Suffice to say I had to do it myself.
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When I bought this phone, I knew I was getting a dismal camera. I don't know anyone that bought the phone thinking this was something that they were going to use a lot. It was the screen size...
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Precisely. The camera I knew was average having done my due diligence before purchase. The rest of the phone is by far the best I've ever had for screen size, light weight and battery life among the other features. If you buy phones to take pictures then this isn't meant for you.
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ota screen protector is suckS!!! I just take off my aftermarket one to replace with new one....cleaned my screen and I saw my fingerprint coating coming away !! can you F believe it !!! second device guys...not funny
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ota screen protector is suckS!!! I just take off my aftermarket one to replace with new one....cleaned my screen and I saw my fingerprint coating coming away !! can you F believe it !!! second device guys...not funny
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sorry mate. I did have a chuckle, but only because I've now been 7 days without my Ultra.
Apparently reports are in about removing the OEM protector, and replacing with your own one improves display and colour quality.
But the pain and time to do it is quite intensive. If mine does this, I think I will remove it.
LordManhattan said:
And about the "petition". Forget about it. It's the least effective thing in the world. Contact them directly and talk to a human being. It works much better, and you'll know that your message has been received. If possible, try to get transfered to the dev section.
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Pal, we aren't getting any Software improvements. Chromatic aberrations shows clearly the use of a very simple and compact.camera module with reduced optical compounds to fit into less-than-six millimeter space (6.4mm less the fit case support) but we didnt get the xzu expecting stunning camera performance, as long as Sony never promised onit. Right? There is much far other cool stuff on the device..
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sorry mate. I did have a chuckle, but only because I've now been 7 days without my Ultra.
Apparently reports are in about removing the OEM protector, and replacing with your own one improves display and colour quality.
But the pain and time to do it is quite intensive. If mine does this, I think I will remove it.
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Dude, the day I HAVE to remove my protector, I'll... burn something down.. I don't want to spend a weekend removing a stupid protector
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hykhleif said:
i think its time to send a clear loud message about the camera issue with z ultra, and ask Sony for a clarification of whether this issue with the camera is a software issue or a hardware issue, can someone please take the lead to roll this petition to the attention of Sony
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I totally agree that the camera of the XZU is a waste (especially the low light performance) but whilst I sort of knew this from the review and the fact that it has no flash, my reasons for buying this phone are totally different-it is my 1st true Phablet.
Is a Petition needed to bring this to the attention of Sony, I think so considering how much money we have all paid or are paying through our contract deals via our network providers. of all the things annoying is why not put a bloody flash of some sort into this beast, you idiotic product designers in Sony. At least they should have the guts to learn from budget Chinese brands like Oppo, HDC, Zopo and UMI.
I have heard that a kickstarter project by the name of IBlazr is soon to launch an 4X Led embedded external flash unit for Mobile Phones and I will get this when it is released but why should we rely on external accessories to complete a faulty design.
To help you all make the best of your camera app, I strongly urge everyone to download the leaked Camera app of the Nexus 5/Android Kitkat 4.4, I installed this and I see that it makes a real difference. Hope the mods will customize it for better usability on the XZU as when I use it the controls of the camera appear to be partially hidden behind the Navigation Buttons of the XZU, whilst this is annoying, the app is very useful and can be used as the daily camera app replacement and to those that want to praise all other replacement apps, I tried all and if you want near stock experience, this is currently our best hope.
Here is the link;
http://www.mediafire.com/download/g3i3i9skdh8s6xl/GoogleCamera.apk
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To those that will complain that I should buy an Ipants or switch to another phone, don't waste your breath, I like my phone and I want it to be better.
LordManhattan said:
Dude, the day I HAVE to remove my protector, I'll... burn something down.. I don't want to spend a weekend removing a stupid protector
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guys please lets not start creating a false xperia z ultra fan boy base like iPhone fan boys that cheer anything apple does even if its crap.
Anyone who does not agree on a petition or find a better way to solve this, or at least find a way to get us the knowledge if its hardware or software issue, then please get out of this thread. This thread is for creating a petition to voice our voices loud to sony to solve this problem if it is a software issue, if its hardware related then we must learn how to cope with this crap camera
AWFRONT said:
I totally agree that the camera of the XZU is a waste (especially the low light performance) but whilst I sort of knew this from the review and the fact that it has no flash, my reasons for buying this phone are totally different-it is my 1st true Phablet.
Is a Petition needed to bring this to the attention of Sony, I think so considering how much money we have all paid or are paying through our contract deals via our network providers. of all the things annoying is why not put a bloody flash of some sort into this beast, you idiotic product designers in Sony. At least they should have the guts to learn from budget Chinese brands like Oppo, HDC, Zopo and UMI.
I have heard that a kickstarter project by the name of IBlazr is soon to launch an 4X Led embedded external flash unit for Mobile Phones and I will get this when it is released but why should we rely on external accessories to complete a faulty design.
To help you all make the best of your camera app, I strongly urge everyone to download the leaked Camera app of the Nexus 5/Android Kitkat 4.4, I installed this and I see that it makes a real difference. Hope the mods will customize it for better usability on the XZU as when I use it the controls of the camera appear to be partially hidden behind the Navigation Buttons of the XZU, whilst this is annoying, the app is very useful and can be used as the daily camera app replacement and to those that want to praise all other replacement apps, I tried all and if you want near stock experience, this is currently our best hope.
Here is the link;
To those that will complain that I should buy an Ipants or switch to another phone, don't waste your breath, I like my phone and I want it to be better.
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better stick with the stock 4.3 camera, same quality but can do photosphere ( 4.4 crash when combine photosphere)
Its a hardware issue. Period.
3rd party app helps but marginal. If camera is really a big issue, I would suggest getting a Z1 or wait out for XZU2.
The XZU is marketed as having a good camera.
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Stunning shots in any light — 8 MP camera with Exmor RS™ for mobile
The 8 megapixel camera is built with the same modules as leading Sony cameras. Exmor RS™ for mobile is an evolution of our Sony image sensor technology, with a next-generation BSI light sensor. By adopting the technology of luminance and colour noise reduction, we’ve created a camera that snaps highly detailed shots with low noise – even in challenging lighting conditions. You’re now also able to reproduce objects in more vivid colours and capture night images and faces in stunning clarity.
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source: sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z-ultra/features/#camera
I bought this XZU because I thought that aside from it being big and fast, it has a good "stunning" camera. The image quality is crap!
Sony should resolve the camera issue, otherwise, it is DECEPTIVE advertising.
hykhleif said:
guys please lets not start creating a false xperia z ultra fan boy base like iPhone fan boys that cheer anything apple does even if its crap.
Anyone who does not agree on a petition or find a better way to solve this, or at least find a way to get us the knowledge if its hardware or software issue, then please get out of this thread. This thread is for creating a petition to voice our voices loud to sony to solve this problem if it is a software issue, if its hardware related then we must learn how to cope with this crap camera
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Have fun with your pointless petition, do you honestly think Sony will do anything when the Z1 is out?
If the camera is that important there is an easy solution.
SweFox said:
Have fun with your pointless petition, do you honestly think Sony will do anything when the Z1 is out?
If the camera is that important there is an easy solution.
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what is with all these people who seem think its ok the camera is this bad? and giving Sony a free pass...
the device is marketed as having an amazing camera yet its about as bad as phones 3-4 years old.
that is not an excuse.
its not average, its crap.
and it needs to be fixed.
cenkaetaya said:
what is with all these people who seem think its ok the camera is this bad? and giving Sony a free pass...
the device is marketed as having an amazing camera yet its about as bad as phones 3-4 years old.
that is not an excuse.
its not average, its crap.
and it needs to be fixed.
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Maybe because those people didn't buy it for the camera because who would? Some people apparently.
Still makes me wonder why people went with Z Ultra if it matters so much?
Yes, the phone is large and nice but come on, use some common sense. If the camera is that important that you need it then the Ultra is clearly not for you? I took some photos, they were watchable.
Have you guys even tried other camera apps? I just tried this and the pictures aren't bad at all :s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415860
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Maybe because those people didn't buy it for the camera because who would? Some people apparently.
Still makes me wonder why people went with Z Ultra if it matters so much?
Yes, the phone is large and nice but come on, use some common sense. If the camera is that important that you need it then the Ultra is clearly not for you? I took some photos, they were watchable.
Have you guys even tried other camera apps? I just tried this and the pictures aren't bad at all :s.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415860
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comments like this honestly irritate the hell out of me please leave this thread go to another thread for cheering called cheering sony fan boy thread
hykhleif said:
comments like this honestly irritate the hell out of me please leave this thread go to another thread for cheering called cheering sony fan boy thread
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No.
I'm trying to understand but I'm just thinking you're rather pathetic.
I don't even give a crap about the camera, I just think this is interesting.
Soooo, why do you still have your Ultra? Why aren't you complaining about the lack of flash as well? You could always glue one on.
Hi I have z2. After upgrading to Lollipop, I started observing frame drops when recording video in the auto mode. I was hoping that the later firmware upgrades
would fix it, but the problem is still there. I am on Build 23.4.A.1.232 . The frame drops are in the actual recording (not the viewfinder only). Any ideas? Though I like Sony, I am really
upset with this problem, considering switching my phone.
Try to downgrade to kk and then upgrade back to LP. Do a full wipe during that operation.
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Luckily not from an iPhone = Yesterdays technology at tomorrows prices
That's very convinient,do we need to disassemble and reassamble the phone too, just to be on the safe side you know. No wonder Sony has no traction in US, I really regret buying this phone.
arifd said:
That's very convinient,do we need to disassemble and reassamble the phone too, just to be on the safe side you know. No wonder Sony has no traction in US, I really regret buying this phone.
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What are you doing here when you can't create a backup and flash an ftf? Things like this happen. It can happen with every device.
I really don't know why Sony has no traction in US, but I also don't care. In my class there are 8-9 people with Sony phones, so they have a pretty good traction here.
P.S. Sorry if this sounds rude. I am just being direct with you. I am also sick of hearing how Sony doesn't have a traction in US. Remember- this is not their priority. They don't even do advertisement there.
Yup, the Z3v is actually getting 5.1.1! The Z2 Tablet is as well. I never thought I'd see the day, but I'm happy for you guys! I personally have a Z1s on T-Mobile that I am still hoping gets 5.1, but I very much doubt it at this point.
Link to Droid-Life article: http://www.droid-life.com/2016/02/23/verizons-xperia-z3v-and-xperia-z2-tablet-both-get-lollipop/
Link to actual Verizon support page about the update: http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
It looks like this update is going to start rolling tomorrow according to some of the support pages saying February 24th.
Just read that article! Make sure to read the actual info from Verizon in the sources at the bottom.
Holy smokes! That article is funny. Woof indeed.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
WOW, IT'S REAL!
Now I hope this enables us to be able to access 5.1.1 mods from other Xperias.
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Just read that article! Make sure to read the actual info from Verizon in the sources at the bottom.
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Interesting
Verizon has the date of the update as of tomorrow(2/24) here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/software-updates/
and the update described here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
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Interesting
Verizon has the date of the update as of tomorrow(2/24) here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/software-updates/
and the update described here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
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Beat you to it.
GigaSPX said:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/support/sony-xperia-z3v-update/
WOW, IT'S REAL!
Now I hope this enables us to be able to access 5.1.1 mods from other Xperias.
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Do you think you'll be able to get a pre-rooted version of this? I'm in a quandary cause I have a replacement Z3V coming tomorrow. If this is released tomorrow maybe I'll just use stock until a root solution for 5.1.1 comes out. Advice?
I loved being proven wrong sometimes...this is one of those times.
The possibility exists they have patched the root exploits finally and that is why they are releasing it. I have a z2 Verizon tablet and at the moment there is no root for lollipop
Pleasantly surprised! Thought for sure this phone was done getting updates and i was stuck on nonrooted 5.0.2. I flashed it before rooting like an idiot
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Do you think you'll be able to get a pre-rooted version of this? I'm in a quandary cause I have a replacement Z3V coming tomorrow. If this is released tomorrow maybe I'll just use stock until a root solution for 5.1.1 comes out. Advice?
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I'm willing to give it a shot to preroot it once I get my hands on the FTF.
Thanks, GigaSPX. An you give a few examples?
Now that I have a second z3V I'm opened to testing some things, so long as there is a somewhat reasonable main of error against "embrickment". I might require more paience than most because of where I'm at on the learning curve.
BTW, this update pretty much fulfills both Sony and Verizon's obligations to the z3V stepchild as Iunderstand it, so most likely no Marshmallow just because this is coming, correct?
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Thanks, GigaSPX. An you give a few examples?
Now that I have a second z3V I'm opened to testing some things, so long as there is a somewhat reasonable main of error against "embrickment". I might require more paience than most because of where I'm at on the learning curve.
BTW, this update pretty much fulfills both Sony and Verizon's obligations to the z3V stepchild as Iunderstand it, so most likely no Marshmallow just because this is coming, correct?
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Well the future seems pretty bleak between Sony and Verizon over this phone because Sony is really just done trying to work with Verizon over these update issues. One thing I can definitely let you guys know though is there is a high likely chance the bootloader unlock is about to become a real thing.
Other than that, the Z series is finished now. No plans for the Z6 as Sony has transitioned their portfolio for the new X series. I somewhat knew that because of the X Performance specs, that has to be their latest flagship. Your guys' thoughts?
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Well the future seems pretty bleak between Sony and Verizon over this phone because Sony is really just done trying to work with Verizon over these update issues. One thing I can definitely let you guys know though is there is a high likely chance the bootloader unlock is about to become a real thing.
Other than that, the Z series is finished now. No plans for the Z6 as Sony has transitioned their portfolio for the new X series. I somewhat knew that because of the X Performance specs, that has to be their latest flagship. Your guys' thoughts?
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Do you have any info on if the Z1s bootloader is about to be able to be unlocked as well? That would be amazing and make the wait for my next phone sometime this year a lot easier.
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Anyone get it yet?
Z3v Software Update
Software Version: 23.4.B.0.319
and the surprise; i had an update message via sony bridge for like 2 month ago but i keep getting : error 1100 consult technical support … "when i try to upgrade"
Well what do you know there is an update, wonders never cease, will reserve further comments until it is actually confirmed rolling out.
Haven't gotten it yet here in Texas.
I guess the natives got to restless with the pitchforks and all.
Now just have to decide if I want the S5 or keep the Z3v, seeing this will more than likely be the last update this phone gets and the S5 will get Marshmallow for sure. And Advanced Calling 2.0 is right around the corner (Wi-Fi calling) and 5g.
If the bootloader gets unlocked then I would keep the Z3v, but the S5 has custom ROMs right now, root and bootstrap working.
Just got complicated.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...ver-the-air-bump-from-android-5-0-2-to-5-1-1/
Only article that says it will come in batches. I have both. I actually have to have my sim in my z2 tablet to even search for an update.
And of course I just sold mine, as in the last 10hrs
Why the presumption of the bootloader unlock possibility? How does the fact (yet to be proved) that they'll update to lollipop increase the odds that the bootloader will be unlocked?
Hi everyone,
As title i'm planning to buy this phone soon (after seeing if oneplus 6t is worth it) and reading around i see there are few problems I should be wary of after buying one.
As for now I know some have touch latency issues and screen bleeding. There is something else i should note after getting mine so i don't have to return it when i already transfered all my stuff in it?
Thanks
BakaPhoenix said:
Hi everyone,
As title i'm planning to buy this phone soon (after seeing if oneplus 6t is worth it) and reading around i see there are few problems I should be wary of after buying one.
As for now I know some have touch latency issues and screen bleeding. There is something else i should note after getting mine so i don't have to return it when i already transfered all my stuff in it?
Thanks
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Like another user said to a potential buyer like u, Don't read posts on forum.
On a more serious note, some phones do have unacceptable screen bleed and if u r one of those few unlucky ones be prepared to fight for replacement. Touch issue has been solved to a great extent in the new beta today. Latency might be there but doesn't bother in daily use and I can't comment really as i am not a gamer.
Lemme be of some assistance as I come from OnePlus 3t and was in a dilemma same as u. It's been 5 days now with the phone and all I can say is it is amazing. It has the best SOT, processor and has 4g+ coz of which my Jio Volte works blazingly fast. Camera maybe a bit downgrade from Onplus 6t but can take beautiful shots in daylight. Face unlock has ir so work in night time. I love the theming options on this phone. GCAM works without magisk. Gesture control is awesome and easy to learn although takes a bit of a time. And MIUI 10 in beta stage is good . Haven't tested all apps but Ola crashes and had to download Twitter alpha build from apkmirror. Attaching a pic which I took in AI Mode.
Thanks for the reply, i'm not really looking for reason to buy it since i'm already decided to but looking for what are the possible defect i can find so i can keep the one i receive or send it back before i start using it.