Just curious, seeming how most people would just say "buy the carrier unlocked version". I don't know jack about development and all that, and I don't mean any disrespect in this, but I'm just curious if anyone out there is going to be trying to root the carrier models of the v30.
I hope so. Only reason I'll ever buy a samsung again is cause the dev community is so so much better vs LG following. Honestly really love my g6 and my v30 but if Verizon never gets root and I never get exposed modules I'll be very very much more likely to buy a gs9 or galaxy X in a year or two
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I hope so. Only reason I'll ever buy a samsung again is cause the dev community is so so much better vs LG following. Honestly really love my g6 and my v30 but if Verizon never gets root and I never get exposed modules I'll be very very much more likely to buy a gs9 or galaxy X in a year or two
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Yep, the GS8 forums are always buzzing it seems. Problem for me is that this phone is going to have to get me through the next 3-4 years (I got my current Nexus 5 in July of 2014, unlocked). I would probably get the s8 if it wasn't for the godawful fingerprint reader placement, and I prefer the camera setup that LG has been offering. I hope the v30 is a hit for LG, it truly is a beautiful phone.
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Yep, the GS8 forums are always buzzing it seems. Problem for me is that this phone is going to have to get me through the next 3-4 years (I got my current Nexus 5 in July of 2014, unlocked). I would probably get the s8 if it wasn't for the godawful fingerprint reader placement, and I prefer the camera setup that LG has been offering. I hope the v30 is a hit for LG, it truly is a beautiful phone.
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I love my g6 and now my v30, truly can't wait for root mostly for exposed modules truly. Not at all custom roms. But yeah my nexus did well 2 years before bootlooped. My lg g3 was amazing and had devs. Behind it very much so I hope v30 fans follow.
Well it's been six months since LG G6 was released, and even with T-Mobile version having a so-called unlocked bootloader (but with all ADB flash commands removed) there's 23 pages of people still pledging money and begging for root. At this point the T-mobile LG G6 root thread is dead as a lost cause.
Sure, a dev could come up with magic tomorrow. But who can predict that?
Whereas the LG G6 official carrier unlocked versions have two pages of root, kernels, ROMs. < Go look at all those ROMS! That's where the dev community is... The LG V30 (carrier unlocked versions) will have all that and more.
Here's an open door, here's a brick wall. Which is easier? Of course, the wild card would be exploits devs may find... But with official carrier unlocked versions available, devs don't need to look for exploits.
Root may eventually come to the LG V30 carrier branded versions, but how long are you willing to wait for an exploit that is unknown at this time? With the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254, it took a full year after release for Sunshine team to find an exploit. Meanwhile, all the other Moto Quark sibling phones (Moto XT1250, Moto XT1225) had root from almost Day 1. We had kernels, ROMs, TWRP recovery... While the Droid Turbo owners looked on in envy. They eventually got to join the party, but before then many users sold their phones and bought something else.
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Lag has been a minor nuisance since I've had the phone.
But it seems to have stopped all of a sudden either yesterday or today.
This happen to anyone else? Anyone know why?
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I was about to post a follow up on the tweaks and ART runtime (that had been working almost flawlessly on my device for almost 24 hours straight now) and saw this thread.
Even though the improvements given by ART and some RAM/Display/Scrolling tweaks were phenomenal, they still had moments of minor stuttering once or twice in an hour's time.
Today however, I noticed my device charging faster, not getting as hot, etc.
Is anyone aware of something that could have caused this?
2 of my close friends have the VZW G3 as well, on the latest firmware. I'm going to send them a text and see if they noticed anything different today.
I'll report back.
I am on 10b firmware, which the phone came with. I did not know there we're any other firmwears for the Verizon LG G3.
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I am on 10b firmware, which the phone came with. I did not know there we're any other firmwears for the Verizon LG G3.
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Nope. Verizon hasn't updated the phone since launch
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Nope. Verizon hasn't updated the phone since launch
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Is there suppose to be an update that they're working on?
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Is there suppose to be an update that they're working on?
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They are suppose to be working with LG continuously to make sure all the firmware improvements LG makes in response to the many issues us users/beta-testers have found and reported are updated onto our phones asap.
Particularly since unlike T-Mobile they have required our Verizon G3s be locked down so we cannot update them ourselves...
In reality, Verizon is happy with whatever shipped initially on the phones since everyone who got one is stuck with it for about two years and there is no revenue from updated firmware, so why should they give a damn ?
We might get a Kit Kat update to 4.4.4 maybe about the time L is released, and if Verizon is feeling unusually benevolent, eventually, an L update maybe 6 months later. Or not.
Verizon does not care at all about Android customers, even though we are the majority of their users. You can be sure they will be all over the iPhone6 phones when they release in a couple of weeks though.
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They are suppose to be working with LG continuously to make sure all the firmware improvements LG makes in response to the many issues us users/beta-testers have found and reported are updated onto our phones asap.
Particularly since unlike T-Mobile they have required our Verizon G3s be locked down so we cannot update them ourselves...
In reality, Verizon is happy with whatever shipped initially on the phones since everyone who got one is stuck with it for about two years and there is no revenue from updated firmware, so why should they give a damn ?
We might get a Kit Kat update to 4.4.4 maybe about the time L is released, and if Verizon is feeling unusually benevolent, eventually, an L update maybe 6 months later. Or not.
Verizon does not care at all about Android customers, even though we are the majority of their users. You can be sure they will be all over the iPhone6 phones when they release in s couple of weeks though.
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100% agree with everything you said but comparing it to iOS is kind of unfair. Those updates comes straight from Apple. Although the majority of Verizon phones are Android, they sell more iPhones than any other device by far, even Sammy flagships. That gives Apple the leveraging power to be able to give straight updates and have no branding on their phones.
Apple produces updates and tests them for the various iPhone models, ok. Do they then send them out to Verizon and ATT and every other cell company that allows the use of iPhones for review and pre-OTA testing for "network compatibility" ? I don't think so, I think they update from their own servers directly to user's phones, but I am not sure.
For Android hardware vendors, though, if they even create updates for Verizon models, they have to, for some reason, go through Verizon to reach their own customers. LG cannot send OTA updates to LG customers, because Verizon won't let them ? Instead we have situations like with the LG G3, where T-Mobile and ATT and European users have updated firmware up to v10j while we are lingering with 10b still. The South Koreans even have 10k I think.
There are some significant improvements in these updates, but Verizon LG customers may never see them, because of Verizon. That is very annoying, to me, and the minute they take away my unlimited data I am gone never to return.
The Verizon LG G3 works with 4gLTE on Cricket here, and H, and Edge. That's on ATT towers. I am using that now. It also works on T-Mobile, though I am unclear about what connection types are supported. I heard LTE works there too. If I leave Verizon, I'll just stick a pre-paid SIM in and that will be fine.
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100% agree with everything you said but comparing it to iOS is kind of unfair. Those updates comes straight from Apple. Although the majority of Verizon phones are Android, they sell more iPhones than any other device by far, even Sammy flagships. That gives Apple the leveraging power to be able to give straight updates and have no branding on their phones.
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I see you're still lurking around the G3 forum... You getting one??
It is a bummer to not have have the options we had on our S4s but I still love this phone with Root and xposed and I'm quite happy.
Our G3 devs are still saying they're going to be able to unlock these things which is cool... Anyways just wanted to say what up!
- Tapatalked from the G3
I tested my Verizon G3 with my T-Mobile prepaid sim and got better 4gLTE download and upload and ping than I got native on Verizon here.
So, both AT&T and T-Mobile LTE work on this phone.
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I see you're still lurking around the G3 forum... You getting one??
It is a bummer to not have have the options we had on our S4s but I still love this phone with Root and xposed and I'm quite happy.
Our G3 devs are still saying they're going to be able to unlock these things which is cool... Anyways just wanted to say what up!
- Tapatalked from the G3
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Right now, it's looking like the G3. I'm still waiting to see the Note 4 tomorrow and the Moto X+1 on Thursday because hey why not. I doubt the Note 4 will be tempting enough to actually accept running stock TW or even hoping for a Hashcode disciple to get Safestrap on there, then I'm still really limited. The Moto X+1 probably won't have a removable battery, which is a problem. It's very annoying to use my One Max with it's embedded battery compared to S4 where I never think about it.
The ZL battery for the G3 just came out and it's looking like good days are coming in the bootloader situation, so I'll probably be pulling the trigger soon enough.
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The ZL battery for the G3 just came out and it's looking like good days are coming in the bootloader situation, so I'll probably be pulling the trigger soon enough.
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What ZL battery are you talking about? Zero Lemon just announced another delay a couple days ago.
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What ZL battery are you talking about? Zero Lemon just announced another delay a couple days ago.
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yeah i looked that up after i posted that lol, I remembered 8/30 being the release date, that's the second delay already. It's a shame they're tripping up like this. I hope it at least means a better product in the end.
The Note 4 is pretty enticing right now, I need to let the newness wear down lol.
So which Verizon app was causing the art shutdown. Also did anyone find a way to fix the almost unreadable text when thin and small
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Has LG in the past granted the carrier promos to buyers of the carrier unlocked models? I really don't want the silver color + 64g is kinda small.
Are there typically a lot of DEV stuff going on for the last few carrier unlocked versions?
Going all the way back to the vzw Droid 1, rooting has always had it's advantages. Mainly being getting the OS updates quicker. That was the biggest selling point.. not waiting for your carrier to package the latest OTA update. But I look around these days, and in order to root it seems you have to be on a very old build, and it just never gets updated? Not only that but it seems to bring on major issues like no text or data, or can't dial out, etc. I mean wow these are kinda show stoppers. I stopped flashing ROMs because there were so many that just dragged and dropped files/apps from other phones. It's like they were frankenstein builds pieced together with apps from new phones, with varying CPU/GPU packages. All ROMs I've read about seem to say 'Optimized', 'Tweaked' etc, but never.. I mean never lay out any technical specifics of what they coded , changed, or added. Are there any ROM makers around these days that take a piece of a phones code and modify it? Maybe I should try to find a stock rom with ability to change kernels, and no show stopping bugs.
My issue is I tossed my lame iPhone work gave me in a drawer, so I use my personal unlimited plan for both corporate and personal. So I can't be missing a call or text/email. Also I really like LGs skin, most say it's the worst of the bunch but I've always thought it was the best. I couldn't live without that quick memo app.
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Are there typically a lot of DEV stuff going on for the last few carrier unlocked versions?
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YES. I've posted plenty of links to carrier unlocked version dev work for both LG G6 and LG V20. But here you go:
LG V20 - 4 pages of ROMs, kernels, recovery, etc.
LG G6 - 2 pages of ROMs, kernels, recovery, etc.
The LG G6 is impressive only because it wasn't added to the bootloader unlock list until practically July (June 29). So, in like 3 months time look at all the dev work it has! The LG V30 will be that and MORE -- because it has much better specs than the LG G6, which had
"last year's Snapadragon",
had only 32GB internal storage in the U.S. and European models)
only some model had Quad DAC (which U.S. and European models didn't have),
only U.S. model had Qi wireless charging.
The LG V30 is the phone the LG G6 should have been.
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Has LG in the past granted the carrier promos to buyers of the carrier unlocked models?
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No, LG isn't going to honor carrier promos. Why would they? The carrier is trying to get your monthly service charge, LG is just selling you a carrier unlocked version of the phone. Take it or leave it. They're not trying to compete with the carriers, they are business partners. They're not trying to steal sales from the carriers. That's why they wait a few weeks AFTER launch to even sell the carrier unlocked version.
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I really don't want the silver color + 64g is kinda small.
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Remember it's internal storage + microSD card. It's not like iPhone or Pixel crap.
Plus, we don't know what the carrier unlocked models will have yet. They haven't been announced or released. We only know they are coming because LG always does it and B&H photo already has a webpage devoted to the US998. THAT webpage says 64GB.
Whether LG will sell a 128GB model directly on the LG website we can only hope.
So does anyone know if LG is affected by the newest cpu bugs?
Qualcomm will use that A75 core for its Snapdragon 845, while other Snapdragon lines list the A53 and A72, which are only vulnerable to the two Spectre variants. As we said, Qualcomm uses a mix of custom and off-the-shelf cores; they are probably affected by Spectre, and maybe Meltdown
https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update
Spectre can be a hope for all of us ....
TARGET: GAIN ROOT on Bootloader locked devices too
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Do either of these bugs give elevated privileges or just siphon off cache information for passwords and stuff?
It gives access to everything
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Do either of these bugs give elevated privileges or just siphon off cache information for passwords and stuff?
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The vulnerabilities give malicious code access to anything stored within the kernel memory which includes passwords/privileges. They could also easily inject code into kernel memory space which could do just about anything without anybody knowing about it.
January 2018 security updates blocks the vulnerability but at this time, it's only available on Google devices.
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So does anyone know if LG is affected by the newest cpu bugs?
Qualcomm will use that A75 core for its Snapdragon 845, while other Snapdragon lines list the A53 and A72, which are only vulnerable to the two Spectre variants. As we said, Qualcomm uses a mix of custom and off-the-shelf cores; they are probably affected by Spectre, and maybe Meltdown
https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update
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Yes, all Snapdragon processors are currently affected by this.. It's an interesting concept to utilize an exploit to gain root access. I could also see this being applied to jailbreak an iPhone and potentially port Android over to it.
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The vulnerabilities give malicious code access to anything stored within the kernel memory which includes passwords/privileges. They could also easily inject code into kernel memory space which could do just about anything without anybody knowing about it.
January 2018 security updates blocks the vulnerability but at this time, it's only available on Google devices.
Yes, all Snapdragon processors are currently affected by this... It's an interesting concept to utilize an exploit to gain root access.
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Then we don't necessarily want it blocked until we use it for our own needs, i.e. root.
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The theoretical explanation of how each exploit is performed is outlined on this page: https://meltdownattack.com/
Maybe one of the ROM/Mod developers would know more about being able to achieve this but it's past my pay grade.
the problem with bugs like this is the limitation that /init gives to exploited root shells. dm-verity is also an issue as it blocks the su binary from being dropped into the correct location, so a persistent root is pretty much out of the question. the only thing i could see coming from something like this is a "tethered" root which would be run on a computer every time a user wanted root access. i no longer own LG devices so would not be able to test on my own but would still be interested in working on this with others!
Adding Spectre to the list pointing to a nine to twelve month wait to buy this phone:
1. Spectre, Krack (Jan 2018 Security patch level, will take at least six months to reach V30 factory installed OS, probably Oreo).
2. Bootloader unlock for US998, TWRP and root with "bugs" ironed out.
3. Display problems, may see improvements over the first year of production.
4. Substantial price drops, probably after nine months or when the V40 is about to launch.
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Adding Spectre to the list pointing to a nine to twelve month wait to buy this phone:
1. Spectre, Krack (Jan 2018 Security patch level, will take at least six months to reach V30 factory installed OS, probably Oreo).
2. Bootloader unlock for US998, TWRP and root with "bugs" ironed out.
3. Display problems, may see improvements over the first year of production.
4. Substantial price drops, probably after nine months or when the V40 is about to launch.
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Your list is mostly bogus, with all due respect.
3) I own three of these phones and there are no display problems in my daily use.
4) I paid average $597.33 for two V30 and one V30+ -- both official "open market" US998 from B&H Photo. Less than $600 each. Yes, I used $400 LG Gift card rebate, and B&H Photo gave me partial refund AFTER the sale on the V30+. A friend sold me her extra LG V30 at her "gift card" price of $600. She bought two just to get the gift card discount and split the cost with me. But that's three bootloader unlock eligible (will be) V30/V30+ for less than $600.
I just helped a friend buy a new Verizon LG V30 for $675 on eBay. Still brand new in the box. That was even before the recent price reduction from B&H Photo. There's even better deals on eBay, but that one was totally new, never been used -- and she needed Verizon branded, not open market.
Current price is $675/$775 at B&H Photo for the North America open market 64GB V30/128GB V30+. (I paid less due to gift card rebate.) But not sure how much less price you expect a phone that competes with the Samsung Note 8 to be?
What is your acceptable price for a phone with these specs/features?
2) The LG G6 got bootloader unlock by end of June and had TWRP, root, ROMs by July. The eligible European LG V30/V30 already have bootloader unlock, TWRP and one ROM. North America "open market" LG V30/V30+ will soon join the party. After that, the pace will really pick up.
The variants on the official LG Bootloader Unlock list are the only ones guaranteed root, which we've said since September. It's that way with the LG G6 and is that way with the LG V30. While ways are being investigated for North America carrier-branded variants, and there's always dev magic, there's no need to wait a year to buy this phone.
1) All security patches can be installed by devs on custom ROMs, just like they always are. This is XDA.
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Your list is mostly bogus, with all due respect.
3) I own three of these phones and there are no display problems in my daily use.
4) I paid average $597.33 for two V30 and one V30+ -- both official "open market" US998 from B&H Photo. Less than $600 each. Yes, I used $400 LG Gift card rebate, and B&H Photo gave me partial refund AFTER the sale on the V30+. A friend sold me her extra LG V30 at her "gift card" price of $600. She bought two just to get the gift card discount and split the cost with me. But that's three bootloader unlock eligible (will be) V30/V30+ for less than $600.
I just helped a friend buy a new Verizon LG V30 for $675 on eBay. Still brand new in the box. That was even before the recent price reduction from B&H Photo. There's even better deals on eBay, but that one was totally new, never been used -- and she needed Verizon branded, not open market.
Current price is $675/$775 at B&H Photo for the North America open market 64GB V30/128GB V30+. (I paid less due to gift card rebate.) But not sure how much less price you expect a phone that competes with the Samsung Note 8 to be?
What is your acceptable price for a phone with these specs/features?
2) The LG G6 got bootloader unlock by end of June and had TWRP, root, ROMs by July. The eligible European LG V30/V30 already have bootloader unlock, TWRP and one ROM. North America "open market" LG V30/V30+ will soon join the party. After that, the pace will really pick up.
The variants on the official LG Bootloader Unlock list are the only ones guaranteed root, which we've said since September. It's that way with the LG G6 and is that way with the LG V30. While ways are being investigated for North America carrier-branded variants, and there's always dev magic, there's no need to wait a year for
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Good information.
But:
The evidence from the multitude of users suggests a problem with the display. Unlikely that that one user's 3 units are representative of the population, the distribution of attributes is most likely not random or uniform with this. The burn in (by whatever term) is real, I saw it on units in three T-Mobile stores. That may be related to extended full-bright operation, but the problem is being worked to reduce severity, results likely in months or year (s).
The price drops should eventually reach nearly 40%, toward the one year point. Regarding the $400 off a second LG device required buying a second device, that is not a true discount but rather a loss-leader promotion to move unsold inventory piling up. Ebay is a fleamarket with distinct drawbacks and risks for the buyer, compared to Amazon or B&H. No, the true substantial discounts without gotchas and catches are still 9-12 months away.
There is no bootloader unlock for US998. Period. Who knows when, if ever, that may be released. And no guarantee of root after that, either. We've been reading predictions in this forum, of bootloader unlock a few weeks after US998 release and root a week after that, but the US998 has been shipping for over a month now and no bootloader unlock. Given that Oreo is coming, it may be that bootloader unlock is on hold until Oreo is shipping on factory units, who knows. And on that point, another reason to wait to buy: TWRP and root for N will not work for O, that will require a whole new TWRP and root.
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There is no bootloader unlock for US998. Period. Who knows when, if ever, that may be released.
And no guarantee of root after that, either. .
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There will be bootloader unlocked for the US998. Period.
Yes, there will be guarantee of root after bootloader unlock for the US998. Saying otherwise shows you really don't know what you are talking about. Maybe you don't understand WHY it's called the LG Developer Bootloader unlock list? As I said, your list is mostly bogus.
(The LG G6 took six weeks after release before bootloader unlock. A "month" is nothing to LG apparently. They can't walk and chew gum at the same time.)
You still didn't answer what you think is YOUR acceptable price for a premium device with these specs? Apparently you think it should be priced less than OnePlus crap with no QHD, no Qi wireless, no IP rating? Sure, I'm all for lower price -- give it to me for $1 and I won't complain --
but $675/$775 current pricing is quite fair for brand new "open market" V30/V30+ which will be eligible for bootloader unlock. Or you didn't know about those prices?
By the way, the gift card thing was BEFORE the open market variants were even released. The deadline to buy was December 2. So, it wasn't to move inventory piling up, at least for those "better" models. It was merely the holiday incentives other manufacturers were also giving for Black Friday/Christmas sales. I only qualified because I PRE-ORDERED and paid full price. (B&H Photo also shipped on December 1, before the official December 5 release date, just to make sure. Very nice of them. But it was my preorder "purchase" that still would have qualified me.)
And no a multitude of users don't have problems with the display. The LG V30 display has intensely low brightness, compared to even the LG Pixel 2 XL display -- because Google made their minimum brightness much higher. Some V30 displays at extremely low brightness have cloudiness, but most users do not use that kind of setting. I don't. Pixel 2 XL doesn't because Google won't let the display have that same low brightness. So, go bash Pixel, it's the exact same display. Other OEMs pull the same tricks with OLED displays (setting minimum brightness higher), but LG doesn't. And it's only some displays, while others have super clear very low brightness. For colors to pop you need brightness set higher anyways.
Now, I'm not talking about obvious flaws in OLED panels that slip through. IF you can see banding even at 20, 25%, then something is wrong.
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There will be bootloader unlocked for the US998. Period.
Yes, there will be guarantee of root after bootloader unlock for the US998. Saying otherwise shows you really don't know what you are talking about. As I said, your list is bogus.
(The LG G6 took six weeks after release before bootloader unlock. A "month" is nothing to LG apparently. They can't walk and chew gum at the same time.)
You still didn't answer what you think is YOUR acceptable price for a premium device with these specs. Apparently you think it should be priced less than OnePlus crap with no QHD, no Qi wireless, no IP rating? Sure, I'm all for lower price, but $675/$775 current pricing is quite fair for brand new open market V30/V30+ which will be eligible for bootloader unlock. Or you didn't know about those prices?
By the way, the gift card thing was BEFORE the open market variants were even released. The deadline to buy was December 2. So, it wasn't to move inventory piling up. It was merely the holiday incentives other manufacturers were also giving for Black Friday/Christmas sales. I only qualified because I PRE-ORDERED.
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There is an old saying: "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".
There is no guarantee of bootloader unlock. Even if it comes eventually, no guarantee of root. (The Samsung S8 SD vs. Exynos thing is a perfect illustration.)
Back to the original post: The Spectre fix is months away for V30, at the soonest, most likely.
Everything else is just talk. Another old saying: " Talk is cheap ".
"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".
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the problem with bugs like this is the limitation that /init gives to exploited root shells. dm-verity is also an issue as it blocks the su binary from being dropped into the correct location, so a persistent root is pretty much out of the question. the only thing i could see coming from something like this is a "tethered" root which would be run on a computer every time a user wanted root access. i no longer own LG devices so would not be able to test on my own but would still be interested in working on this with others!
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I'd be willing to work with you, I can definitely test, as far as doing the creation of it, I really want to get into it but don't know where to start. Think we could get in touch?
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the problem with bugs like this is the limitation that /init gives to exploited root shells. dm-verity is also an issue as it blocks the su binary from being dropped into the correct location, so a persistent root is pretty much out of the question. the only thing i could see coming from something like this is a "tethered" root which would be run on a computer every time a user wanted root access. i no longer own LG devices so would not be able to test on my own but would still be interested in working on this with others!
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please, give us tethered root too !
This can be a Great thing for us
I'm here too with my device if need for test, tell me where to meet us
I'm a new owner of my very own V30 as of yesterday. For 8 years, I've been the proud owner of nexus devices, starting from the galaxy nexus, then nexus 4, 5, 6p. I've never owned a "common folk" phone such as the v30. But, with Google going off the face of the planet with deleting the 3.5mm jack I just couldn't buy another Google phone (sigh)
So a question : when LG places the v30 on the dev bootloader unlock whitelist, like the v20, will the warranty still be voided if the bootloader is unlocked?
I liked my Lineage aka cyanogenmod, root apps, xposed, tasker. But frankly the v30 is more than good enough stock for me to use day to day (my phone is an oauth key, calendar, media player, web browser, and IOT remote controller, none of which get much benefit from root). Still, it'd be nice to know what to expect from LG.. Reaally for the fact that ad block root was so good.
There used to be a time when oem android was so bad that it was unusable without flashing with your own stuff... And that's very different now. Just wondering.
Agreed about Google removing headphone jack, especially after making fun of Apple doing it a year ago. Hypocrisy much?
What V30 variant did you get? Is yours eligible for bootloader unlock? Either open market LG US998 or H930 are the two V30 eligible for bootloader unlock with full flash commands available. (The T-Mobile variant has "fake" bootloader unlock, with most flash commands stripped out.)
Yes, warranty is voided with that bootloader unlock. You get an unlock code in exchange for agreeing to void warranty, from the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list website.
You can either have warranty or own your phone...
Motorola does the same thing, for their phones which are eligible for bootloader unlock.
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
Depending which version you have it may not get unlocked at all. I've got the H930DS and there's a good chance it will never be unlocked.
Also regarding warranty it depends a lot on which country you are in, if it is the US then yea, you will probably lose warranty completely. In a lot of other countries they cannot legally void the hardware warranty for software modifications. It also matters which distributor is providing the warranty service or whether it is LG themselves, not all distributors are the same.
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I'm a new owner of my very own V30 as of yesterday. For 8 years, I've been the proud owner of nexus devices, starting from the galaxy nexus, then nexus 4, 5, 6p. I've never owned a "common folk" phone such as the v30. But, with Google going off the face of the planet with deleting the 3.5mm jack I just couldn't buy another Google phone (sigh)
So a question : when LG places the v30 on the dev bootloader unlock whitelist, like the v20, will the warranty still be voided if the bootloader is unlocked?
I liked my Lineage aka cyanogenmod, root apps, xposed, tasker. But frankly the v30 is more than good enough stock for me to use day to day (my phone is an oauth key, calendar, media player, web browser, and IOT remote controller, none of which get much benefit from root). Still, it'd be nice to know what to expect from LG.. Reaally for the fact that ad block root was so good.
There used to be a time when oem android was so bad that it was unusable without flashing with your own stuff... And that's very different now. Just wondering.
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see ChazzMatts posts in various threads... his info is tight.
this phone is great out of the box, but man is it WAY better when it's got root and the right ROM... speaking for myself. so, depending on which variant you have, the old days may be possible for you.
i was a flashaholic somewhat, but on this phone US998 unlocked, i got lucky that the first ROM I've flashed will [hopefully] be my last. exactly what i wanted. and with the tweaks it flies, fastest phone I've ever used. the audio is SPECTACULAR... talking about the WETA rom, the one mentioned above. really super happy over here. i am honestly surprised how everything fell into place on this new phone project. now to sell my HTC10. the audio (and display) on the V30 is light years ahead of the HTC if that's saying anything.
ChazzMatt said:
Agreed about Google removing headphone jack, especially after making fun of Apple doing it a year ago. Hypocrisy much?
What V30 variant did you get? Is yours eligible for bootloader unlock? Either open market LG US998 or H930 are the two V30 eligible for bootloader unlock with full flash commands available. (The T-Mobile variant has "fake" bootloader unlock, with most flash commands stripped out.)
Yes, warranty is voided with that bootloader unlock. You get an unlock code in exchange for agreeing to void warranty, from the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list website.
You can either have warranty or own your phone...
Motorola does the same thing, for their phones which are eligible for bootloader unlock.
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
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Unfortunately I have a h932 (tmo version). So that's how it is... Meh I'm not in too big a need for the unlock especially since it's a newish released phone and there's always a chance there's a recall. I was just curious if LG typically opens up their older product line for a potential unlock in the future.
Thanks for the info!
The only way the Tmo version gets a Bootloader unlock is either Engineering Bootstack being released in the wild or someone cracks the security. Unfortunately the likelihood of any of that happening is slim to none. Either replace it with a US998/H930 or be happy with never getting root/unlocked.
With that being said, there really isn't much dev going on for this phone unfortunately and I doubt that will really change much. LG has a lot of negativity from previous failures and accountability so most devs have merely over looked this phone or written LG off completely. Kinda like the failure that is happening over at HTC.
Fortunately there are some sharp and tenacious devs working on the T-Mo models. In the post linked below, @runningnak3d expressed a more optimistic prognosis for the H932. Given his work and skills, and the efforts being made by him and others in that thread, that makes me optimistic too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75678105
And there are other tireless devs and users working on it in the H932 root thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3690577
Velrix said:
LG has a lot of negativity from previous failures and accountability so most devs have merely over looked this phone or written LG off completely.
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If that's true, that's a shame. Lot of devs were working on the LG G6 open market models and the V30 is much better. LG really has a winner with this phone.
I think part of the problem is LG still hasn't officially added the US998 V30 to the LG Bootloader Unlock list (only the H930 and H930G). While waiting for the official announcement, and waiting and waiting... @gwillmer found out by accident the US998 V30 bootloader could be unlocked. How long had all those IMEI codes been in the database? And LG didn't tell us? And the V30+ US998 still can't be unlocked (which is the more desirable model). (I own both.) I think if that had happened (getting bootloader unlock for both) back in November/December, devs would be all over this phone.
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Fortunately there are some sharp and tenacious devs working on the T-Mo models. In the post linked below, @runningnak3d expressed a more optimistic prognosis for the H932. Given his work and skills, and the efforts being made by him and others in that thread, that makes me optimistic too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75678105
And there are other tireless devs and users working on it in the H932 root thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3690577
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I highly doubt without a engineering bootstack or some other hack they will ever get root on that phone. Even if they do, its doubtful it will be much more than that. They have yet to do it on the G6 model so don't expect it here anytime soon.
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If that's true, that's a shame. Lot of devs were working on the LG G6 open market models and the V30 is much better. LG really has a winner with this phone.
I think part of the problem is LG still hasn't officially added the US998 V30 to the LG Bootloader Unlock list (only the H930 and H930G). While waiting for the official announcement, and waiting and waiting... @gwillmer found out by accident the US998 V30 bootloader could be unlocked. How long had all those IMEI codes been in the database? And LG didn't tell us? And the V30+ US998 still can't be unlocked (which is the more desirable model). (I own both.) I think if that had happened (getting bootloader unlock for both) back in November/December, devs would be all over this phone.
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That's the problem, people (devs/enthusiast) just lost hope/trust in the company in general and this just puts the nail in the coffin. Now we have a new device being released later this year when most people just got their unlocked phones a few months back. LG did great with the V30 but they are being extremely anti developer with their actions, and honestly why wouldn't they be. Their money is in the average consumer which will never care about root/bootloader unlocking.
I really hope this changes for the good and they allow the + to be unlocked but until then, this platform may not have a ton of dev support.
When was the G6+ (US997U) released? It's still not on the bootloader unlock list, either... and wouldn't it have come out well before the V30? I can't seem to find an exact date that it was first listed for sale, but how long would we expect them to wait to add any new phone to the list? There's the Prime-Exclusive version that categorically will NOT get a bootloader unlock, but B&H and BestBuy both sell a factory-unlocked version too.
I'm having doubts that the V30+ will be added to the bootloader unlock list. If they really do it "for developers" then they really only need to support the base model V30, as the PLUS and the ThinQ just add more storage space and the rest of the hardware is identical.
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THANK YOU
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Not sure what you are thanking about. This thread from February 2018 now has a lot of outdated information. We no longer need the LG's approval for bootloader unlock.
This is the 2nd post post where you have just said thank you for information that's not really that helpful any more (outdated). Seems you are padding your post count?
EDIT: YES, NOW WE KNOW. Padding post count so he could spam with ads once he had enough posts. Now he's been banned...
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We can't all go back and edit old posts with newer information, which is why there's always a danger to "dig up" old threads like this. What I said 6 months ago may conflict with what I'm saying right now, but that's because of newer information, newer developments. Just this week, H932 T-Mobile V30/V30+ got ROOT. You will find tons of posts where we say that's NOT possible. Well, it wasn't THEN. It is NOW.
Same with bootloader unlock for non-Open Market V30. We thought we needed LG approval. In mid-May we found we don't, thanks to @TxanMoe.
I am currently a customer with Cricket Wireless. All of their phones come with the bootloader locked, which I didnt know when I bought my E5 Supra a couple of years ago. Last week I plugged it up and it started smoking randomly. It's fried. I did a good bit of research and decided for under 220, the Moto G7 Power used off Ebay unlocked was my best bet. I made sure it was rootable, I thought.
The seller had it listed as "Motorola G7 Power Unlocked ATT/Cricket". What came in was a Verizon variant (XT1955-6) that had not only a constant error that I wasnt using a verizon sim but had a locked bootloader. The error thing, I could live with or fix. I was on the phone with both Motorola and Verizon with the hopes I could sweet talk them into something, explaining I was an app developer.
Well, im sending the G7 Power back. I was going to get the XT1955-5 which could be unlocked through Motorola or the international version and just flash whatever bands were needed. But at this point, I think I want to steer clear of Motorola altogether. Everyone in the G7 forums is constantly bricking, some hard bricking and actually sending them back.
Models Im Considering
One Plus 5T
LG G7 ThinQ
Samsung Galaxy A50
Samsung Galaxy S8-S9 (whichever I can find for that price range)
Samsung Galaxy Note 7 or 8 (whicheveer I can find for that price range)
Sorry for the background but, does anyone have any advice or recommendations on what a good phone with an unlockable bootloader for under $220 would be? (used is fine) I dont even really require it be sim unlocked, so long as it doesnt have a locked bootloader. I see the Pixel guys ran into issues with bootloaders being locked so that ruled that out. Im not too concerned with camera or anything like that. Mostly freedom to do with it as I please and a smooth processor lol. Thanks in advance!!