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Looks like, so far, Three are the only network not to have announced they are stocking the Nexus 6P.
I for one am hoping they are just delaying their announcement!
If anyone has any information regarding this matter, please post here.
Don't think three stocked the Nexus 6 at release did they?
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Three did not stock the N6 so very doubtful they will do the 6P
I think a few places never stocked the 6. This time however, everyone except Three are stocking the 6P.
They can't be the only people not to negotiate a contract to sell the 6P, surely!
Seems that way. No plans as yet to sell it, and as such I'd imagine it won't work with VoLTE on Three either.
Annoying as I've ordered one and am on Three.
jonmorris said:
Seems that way. No plans as yet to sell it, and as such I'd imagine it won't work with VoLTE on Three either.
Annoying as I've ordered one and am on Three.
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Not good, any more news on this??
No. I guess we can safely say VoLTE won't be possible on the 6P with Three. That is unless we get the ability to manually enter the relevant IMS settings (like APNs for data), in which case it should be possible.
I have heard rumours that the inTouch app may be updated to allow you to make calls over the app, just like you can use it for calling over Wi-Fi without 'proper' Voice over Wi-Fi support.
In this way, Three will then (apparently) give you access to the 800MHz LTE network (which is available in areas where there's no 3G to fall back to for voice) once you're registered and signed in.
That too could solve the problem, but it's a bit of a bodge and by no means going to happen for definite.
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No. I guess we can safely say VoLTE won't be possible on the 6P with Three. That is unless we get the ability to manually enter the relevant IMS settings (like APNs for data), in which case it should be possible.
I have heard rumours that the inTouch app may be updated to allow you to make calls over the app, just like you can use it for calling over Wi-Fi without 'proper' Voice over Wi-Fi support.
In this way, Three will then (apparently) give you access to the 800MHz LTE network (which is available in areas where there's no 3G to fall back to for voice) once you're registered and signed in.
That too could solve the problem, but it's a bit of a bodge and by no means going to happen for definite.
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When I first ordered the 6P i went into a three store and asked about the VoLTE and they said they should support it.
Remember they dont brand/lock the phones they sell anymore. Can't remember if they put extra software on though.
brichardson1991 said:
When I first ordered the 6P i went into a three store and asked about the VoLTE and they said they should support it.
Remember they dont brand/lock the phones they sell anymore. Can't remember if they put extra software on though.
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They don't lock but they do brand. It isn't like the old days, with custom ring tones, colours, loads of extra apps (free trials of aps, or whatever) installed but it's still a custom ROM with settings unique to them, from APNs to the IMS settings needed for VoLTE (and Wi-Fi calling).
If you want to use VoLTE on Three today, or SuperVoice as they call it, you need to flash the Three ROM on your Galaxy S5, LG G4 or the other few devices given access - and requiring a software update.
Apple is the exception. These are never branded and the carrier settings are the same on EVERY single phone. I do wish Google would do something similar with regards to carrier settings, as then every phone on any network could be made to work properly with all the available features.
Given this is Xda, it's worth noting that there are sometimes other ways to get a generic phone to work with VoLTE but it's not something Joe Public would be able to do, or even know they could do. And Three stores have been saying some phones are able to work that can't (and never will, unless they do this inTouch update) as well as saying 4G 800 is a high priority, when the reality is that it's the lowest and you'll only ever use it when 3G isn't available.
There's a dedicated UK thread here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/uk-nexus-6p-t3213767
Please continue this there. :good:
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Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
Like you, I tried the mixed bag of techniques posted across forums to get VoWIFI going on my US998. I have also crawled hidden apps using Shortcut Master. Although there were glimmers of hope, none of the methods gave positive results.
I do have a pair of identical V30's and have thought about doing a side-by-side comparison to see if I can find the difference. One might be the Settings app itself. The bottomline is that I just don't have the time anylong to go down these rabbit holes and my will to battle with LG is attenuating rapidly. I do not need VoWiFi but HotSpot is a must so I am mostly content using the stock US998 Oreo rom.
BTW, if you want unthrottled hotspot bandwidth on Verizon, go into the APN settings on the phone and switch both APN Protocal and APN Roaming Protocol to ipv4. Then switch the ttl from 64 to 65 on any computer or device that will connect to the hotspot.
Windza said:
Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
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Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Windza said:
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
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Aaaaaand... the result is unsurprising. I know some folks were reporting anecdotal improvements after flashing the VS996 modem into US998 but I'm not seeing notable difference from where I was already at.
I was on US998 20e and flashed modem from VS996 20f but no luck... last resort is to try US998 20h and VS996 20k but I'm not holding my breath.
No matter what I override in the background, the consistent element on the US998 is the two switches in the attached s/shot are grayed out and unable to be toggled on (even though their equivalents in the background are on).
As soon as I flash a VS996 ROM, these switches can be toggled to get things working.
I will be of no help... But I'm definitely interested in this!
I've got US998 running vs996 stock pie with full functionality of Hotspot and vowifi. One thing I noticed when debloating my install was that removal of the Verizon phone app would cause the phone to not boot, so my guess is their app is one of the pieces of the vowifi puzzle.
Has anyone tried running Verizon phone app on a US998 Rom?
I am in the exact same boat.
Currently running US998 on Verizon VS996 only for hotspot. I also tried to get VoLTE running via https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500/post76613814#post76613814 but no luck. Was able to get the Verizon app to run but it didn't help with VoLTE. Possibly because I'm on a corporate plan so I don't have many options available in the app. Also missing RCS messaging features which I had on VS996 ROM, but maybe I need to try the "beta versions of Messenger" trick.
I also tried copying the HotspotProvision.apk and odex from US998 to VS996 rom but no luck there either.
Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
Windza said:
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM,
* (Unauthorized Verizon) Hotspot works flawlessly
* but (Verizon) VoWiFi does not
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have
* (Verizon) VoWiFi working but
* Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message. (Because you're not paying for that Verizon hotspot service)
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
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See my parenthetical comments.
That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
Whereas on US998, Verizon has no control over how you use your data. You get "free" tethering feature on US998 firmware.
But on US998 Verizon still has control over whether to grant Wi-Fi calling to devices on their network, and they decline to do that. Control freak Verizon makes you be on Verizon firmware for Wi-Fi calling to "encourage" you to buy their hardware (even though you didn't).
T-Mobile doesn't care and grants Wi-Fi calling on US998. So, it's not "Wi-Fi calling" issue -- it's a Verizon issue.
The difference between the two "ROMs" is one is based on firmware certified by Verizon and the other is not.
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ellomdian said:
Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
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Get a V30. Heck, get a V30+! You can have tethering, maps, phone calls on US998. What you cannot have on US998 firmware with Verizon SIM card is Verizon Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile allows it, but Verizon doesn't. But you still get phone calls.
My sister and brother-in-law are both on US998 firmware (former LS998 V30+) on Verizon and they both get VoLTE.
$110 for mint US998 V30+.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99830a000704-kdz-t3952256
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That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
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ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
Windza said:
ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
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To add to the confusion -- this is from the Verizon Pie TWRP-flashable zip ROM thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...lg-v30-joan-vs996-verizon-30c-t3974139/page13
Teldin2 said:
Has anyone had any luck provisioning the hotspot on the stock image? I've tried several methods with no success.
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PerCompLLC said:
No issues at all with me. I use it every day! Worked out of the box.
Sent from my VS996 using Tapatalk
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EDIT: Never mind. He has unlimited data.
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Windza said:
a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked)
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My brother-in-law (who could sell snow to Eskimos) and my sister recently switched from AT&T to Verizon with two former LS998 V30+ converted to US998 V30+. NOT bootloader unlocked. Just stock phones.
Yes, "US998" with Oreo 20h are carrier unlocked phones (with CDMA and LTE band 13), but I know you need an already-activated Verizon SIM card. Verizon is NOT going to activate a SIM card on former Sprint LS998 V30+...
But my brother-in-law found a store rep willing to help. The guy said, "They will tell you this phone doesn't work on Verizon, but it does." He activated two SIM cards for them, let them go drive to their neighborhood and test them out. They are switching to Verizon because the upscale neighborhood they are moving to has an AT&T black hole. Only Verizon works there. (Even AT&T microcell doesn't work well, because of size of the house and thick walls. And they don't get AT&T Wi-Fi calling because it's not AT&T branded hardware.)
Any great Verizon signal. Not sure if the rep provisioned VoLTE or not, as I haven't touched the phones recently. But they are very happy. The guy told them, "If something happens and you need help, come to the store and ONLY SEE ME. Don't tell anyone else what I've done."
Nice to find someone like that, but my brother-in-law is GREAT about finding people like that. He's a very successful salesperson and knows how to make people WANT to help him. What's really scary is when he turns his skill set against other salespeople. You should see him when shopping for a car.
"What color are you looking for, sir?"
"Doesn't matter, it's just all sheet metal to me. Color isn't important."
When he really has his eye on that cobalt blue SUV or whatever...
"Oh, that one? I guess I could drive that if you've got nothing better."
When he gets finished, it's like they've been hypnotized.
He walks out with exactly what he came to get, and at fantastic price.
My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
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My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
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If you are using Verizon on US998 firmware, then you don't have access to VoLTE (which is phone calls over LTE, Voice over LTE). LTE started out as a data-only service but for actual phone calls, carriers were still using 3G HSPA or CDMA (Verizon, Sprint). When making a phone call, phones temporarily bump down to 3G, and then jump back to LTE after the phone call is over.
With the VoLTE protocol, that finally allowed phone calls with LTE. It added VOICE capability to LTE.
However, different carriers treat VoLTE differently. T-mobile allows VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling for US998 phones, while AT&T and Verizon are more stingy. They reserve VoLTE mostly for their branded phones running their carrier firmware.
I'm an AT&T customer and I've never had VoLTE because I've never used a branded AT&T phone. For me, on AT&T, when I make a phone call I am bumped down temporarily to AT&T HSPA. Then, after the phone call, it jumps back to LTE.
If I were to flash the AT&T TWRP flashable zip, possibly I could enable that. But it's not just firmware, it's also a setting on the carrier side that has to be enabled.
Bottom line, what's happening is you are seeing you STRONG LTE signal. But when you make a phone call, you are being temporarily bumped down to Verizon CDMA. However, Verizon is in the process of dismantling all their CDMA towers. That's why your CDMA signal is so weak. Verizon plans to shutdown CDMA entirely by end of 2020. After that, you will need VoLTE to make phone calls on Verizon.
Since you have an actual VS996, you can flash the VS996 TWRP-flashable zip. Once on that firmware, see if VoLTE is enabled on your account (carrier side setting) and see if when you make phone calls you stay on LTE and are not bumped down to CDMA?
Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Yes, especially if you see strong LTE signal before making the phone call. Control freak Verizon (mostly) only allows VoLTE on Verizon firmware with Verizon branded phones. There may be exceptions (maybe Pixel phones?) and I know the ZTE Axon 7 (not a branded Verizon phone) somehow got VoLTE not only on ZTE stock firmware but also on LOS ROM -- but I believe ZTE paid Verizon to allow that. It's the exception that proves the rule.
Here's a a more in depth article about Verizon CDMA being shut down end of this year.
https://grantcountyreview.com/content/verizon-wireless-postpones-its-shutdown-3g-cdma networks
when Verizon closes its 2G and 3G networks at the end of 2020, 3G phones will become obsolete and non-VoLTE LTE phones will not be able to make or receive calls.
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You DO have a Verizon VoLTE capable phone -- a Verizon VS996 -- but for V30 only on Verizon firmware. If you were using T-mobile with US998 firmware, you would have no problems with VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile is more open than Verizon about such perks.
I don't get VoLTE with AT&T on US998 firmware, but AT&T has no plans to end 3G HSPA anytime soon.
Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength. Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
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Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength.
Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
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Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal -- not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
ChazzMatt said:
Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
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I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
ldeveraux said:
I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
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Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs. So, although it's equivalent to US998 20h, it's a higher letter.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
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Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
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I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
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I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
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I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
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Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
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Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
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I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
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I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
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Seems like, yes.
I had to do a few steps to manually activate HD/VOLTE on my VS996 phone when I was on VZ. I documented the steps somewhere here (using ShortcutMasterLite). I know at least one other member here used the same steps on his phone. I'm thinking you'll be fine once you're on VS996.
I have not switched to Pie... still running Oreo. I have heard too many issues with Pie, so I have no desire to bother. I can't imagine VZ's Pie release is any better than Pie US998. VZ is too lazy to do anything else right, so why would they bother fixing what's wrong on US998.
Just want to quickly update this thread. I dirty flashed the VS99620K.zip in TWRP, then immediately flashed the latest Magisk zip. Everything updated perfectly, installed about 10 VZ apps, and I now have VOWIFI (and can send/receive texts!), though haven't been able to check VOLTE as I'm currently in a dead zone.
I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
Also, independent of this upgrade, my motion GIFs in any text app don't move. I thought it might have something to do with the non-VZ specific kernel, but after flashing, still just shows a static picture.
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I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
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Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what Verizon video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, it would seem you don't need it. But you do make sure you have voice over LTE (VoLTE, called "HD calling" Verzion) --before end of this year.
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Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, you don't need it. But you do need to get voice over LTE.
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I am the only user on this account, so definitely the account holder. After more wasted chats with VZ, they said that since my phone is not VZ branded, it's not eligible for Video Calling, which apparently is exactly as you described; Facetime for non-iphone Verizon users. I don't need that, as you said all my other platforms work fine.
How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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I think if you have Vo-WiFi that means your VoLTE is also activated. They seem to be packaged together.
If you make a call in a good signal area, see if the "4GLTE" icon stays on when you make the call. It may even change to VoLTE icon? or HD calling icon? A Verizon user can probably tell you better. But the key is to see if there are any status bar icon changes and what they are. Also see if there is any information in the dialer GUI during the call, where you click on the dialer timer.
Yeah, don't talk to VZ. They're too stupid to help and downright liars. Your phone will work fine on their network even if it's not VZ branded (I've used US998 and H931 phones on VZ without issue).
On my phone, I did have to do some setting changes in SML (ShortcutMasterLite) to get VOLTE working. I don't think most people have to do that, but I did... and I agree, I think that got VOWIFI working as well. I'm guessing you have both, too... just need to try it. If not, you can force-activate it as I documented earlier (via SML).
Hi all,
Thanks to all you guys who make these devices perform far and beyond, and then hold a dumbass's hand such as myself and walk me through the steps to do the same.
I have a V30 I am working on. I had a previous one but my little boy slobbered into the charge port as well as dropped it 1000 times and the touch screen finally quit. So I am working on a new one while I use the old Turbo back up.
Here is my dilemma.
I have a grandfathered VZ unlimited data plan that I pay 153 bucks a month for. Depending on the month, I may exceed 30-50 GB on my Hotspot, but it really doesn't happen very often.
With my previous V30, I was running US998. Native tethering with 998 works great but of course there is no Volte, and from what I understand I am going to have to be on VS996 by December because of the network changes. The only problem is on VS996, my hotspot doesn't pass VZ's subscription check.
Has anyone out there gotten Hotspot capabilities on VS996? I have tried every trick I can find on the forums to get it to work, to no avail. I think my situation is growing ever more unique because most people are on a newer plan and don't have to worry about the sub check. I am not going to pay VZ another 30 bucks a month for the sub, (and I have never had to thanks to you all).
So my options are:
Keep my current plan and use PDA net for computer internet and throw my sim in my old Turbo when I need to Roku, etc.
Keep my current plan and roll with US998 until Dec and then maybe try a different phone with native tethering capabilities?
Change my VZ plan. I really don't think I need the true unlimited plan anymore. I would solve my V30 hotspot issues as well as save myself about 100 dollars a month.... But dammit it's kind of the principle of the matter. I like having the ENDLESS data capacity at my disposal!
Thank you for any and all suggestions!
I understand your dilemma. Couple of choices I can think of:
1) Switch to an MVNO such as Red Pocket that will give you what you need at a better price, and which works with US998. If you really need Unlimited everything, there is the following for $60/month using either AT&T (GSMA), Sprint (CDMAS) or Verizon (CDMA) as your carrier. (These are just their names for the networks, since they're not allowed to name the carriers.)
https://www.redpocket.com/plans/add/M060
I use them (although much more meager $60/year plan) with US998 on GSMA, which works great, not throttled, tethering, VoLTE. Their plans include WiFi Calling too, but I haven't been able to make it work on GSMA unless I flash a H931 ROM. There may be a way, I'm still experimenting.
2) Get a much slimmer plan that includes only what you need on the phone, such as 3GB at $19/month or $8GB at $30/month, available on the same networks. Links below:
https://www.redpocket.com/plans/add/M020
https://www.redpocket.com/plans/add/M030
Then complement that with a separate Data Only plan for your Turbo, such as $40 for 20GB/month, although only available on GSMA (AT&T).
https://www.redpocket.com/gsma/add/b040
3) Stay on Verizon with the above plans using CDMA as network. They give you VoLTE and WiFi Calling, as long as your phone supports it, but require a VZ IMEI to activate. I would *expect* that you can get at least VoLTE and tethering working on US998, although I haven't tried on VZ. But they ARE officially included in the plans.
4) Deep dive into IMS settings on US998 (through the hidden menu) and see if you can't get VoLTE working. It doesn't show up in the Network menu, but you can enable an icon in the statusbar to confirm when it's working. See my post linked below (and the following discussion) for what I did to make it work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...tock-firmware-los-based-t4138223/post83155603
5) Get a VS996 (or Frankenstein a US998) for your phone needs and complement it with a separate Data Only plan in your Turbo instead of tethering.
In other words various combinations I could think of. The only thing I cannot tell you is if GSMA (AT&T, which I have) has good reception in your home. And if CDMA (Red Pocket on VZ) provides the same speed you're used to on VZ postpaid.
V30 remains an awesome phone for the price, but newer models may be more compatible as the carriers switch over their networks.
For what you're currently paying at VZ, you could buy another V30 every month
You might want to see if the old hack to disable the subscription check works on the VZW rom.
* Open "build.prop" in the system folder.
* Look for or add at the bottom
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
* Reboot and see if you can enable hotspot/tether without a subscription check.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have tried the build.prop edit on VS99630b with no luck. I know another user @schwinn8 has had success with this trick on Oreo 20k I believe. It's looking more and more like I'm just going to give up my plan for a cheaper one. My wife and I are saving for a house and every little bit would help! Unfortunately where I live (rural Montana) Verizon is far and wide the best carrier to go through due to their coverage so looks like I'm stuck with them for now!
I may try going back to 20k and see if the build prop trick works on it because I'll hate myself if I don't at least try
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Unfortunately where I live (rural Montana) Verizon is far and wide the best carrier to go through due to their coverage so looks like I'm stuck with them for now!
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You're NOT stuck with Verizon as far as your plan, even if they have the only network where you live. One of the points I was trying to make is that most of Red Pocket's plans are available on any of the four big networks, including Verizon.
So you could get a $60 Unlimited Everything plan using the same network you now have. That's $90 saved every month. Or you may be able to save more if you don't need 30-40GB every month, by combining a lower allotment cell plan with a Data Only plan for your WiFi/tethering needs.
If you're willing to lock in a rate for 12 months, there are annual plans which provide further savings. They're often on sale if you have patience to watch them for a while.
Really, I'm not a salesman for these guys, just a user on a low budget. My wife too
As I mentioned, TW is the winner for me - uses VZ towers and is low cost (my wife and I have unlimited calling, and 30GB "fast" data (after that it's like 1x speed or something, so it's technically unlimited, but useless at those speeds). We don't use that much, and we pay about $60 for our two lines.
As for the build.prop change, interestingly enough, I tried running hotspot on my wife's phone, and it just worked... I checked her build.prop and she does NOT have the noprovision in there anywhere. As I mentioned in PM, I didn't have it before, and when I tried to use hotspot it originally told me I had to activate that... clearly that is no longer the case. (TW allows tethering now, but they didn't originally).
Like others suggest, I say switch carriers and be happy - you'll be on VZ towers, and save cost. And not have to deal with the liars at VZ (who will likely tell you your V30 can't be used on their network, even though it can). Win-win.
Thanks again for the input. I guess ive never really researched any providers outside verizon but i know for a fact that ATT doesnt work well here but obviously we are talking other carriers that use VZ towers. Will start looking into this...
I agree verizon is a bunch of crooks.
I am now currently using the V30 with Micromods debloated VS996 pie Rom. No hot spot of course but everything is working butter smooth. Its so much faster than the Turbo its laughable but hey, that old girl gave me 5 years of solid service!
Has anyone ever tried the A.I.S ir A.I.X roms ? Where does a guy even download or acquire these? I did some brief searching but couldnt find but a few references to Telegram, which I joined and briefly tried to find where to download either one but I'm fairly tech incompetent and ran out of time... Would A.I.X be worth looking into and where would i find it?
kfa670 said:
I am now currently using the V30 with Micromods debloated VS996 pie Rom. No hot spot of course but everything is working butter smooth. Its so much faster than the Turbo its laughable but hey, that old girl gave me 5 years of solid service!
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I LOVED the 2014 Moto Quark. Droid Turbo was the Verizon variant, but I had three of the "international" Moto Maxx (also sold as Moto Turbo) XT1225 which had more LTE bands (including all of AT&T's LTE bands), no CDMA bands, and all had 64GB internal memory. Some of the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 had 64GB, but most people in 2014 bought the 32GB version from Verizon.
Used it daily for 3 years before I got the V30. I researched for a year to find a worthy replacement and the 2017 V30 (especially the 128GB V30+) seemed to be the spiritual successor to the Moto Quark (Droid Turbo, Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo). The V30 Joan series is something the Motorola of 2014 would have made if they hadn't been sold to and cannibalized by Lenovo.
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Thanks again for the input. I guess ive never really researched any providers outside verizon but i know for a fact that ATT doesnt work well here but obviously we are talking other carriers that use VZ towers. Will start looking into this...
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Right. You would still be using Verizon while not directly paying Verizon.
MVNOs (Mobile Virtual Network Operators) use the major carriers towers but offer their own branded service. They are paying AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile (and now Sprint) wholesale prices, then packaging it for you. Some are carrier specific -- like T-mobile or Verizon only. Others use all 4 (now 3) major carriers.
All are not alike.
Some MVNOs try to hide the underlying carrier, as if it makes no difference (but it does, due to geographical differences). 2 years ago my mother's Net10 flip phone stopped receiving texts. (Don't freak, I know it was her phone not the service.) But rather than replace the phone, their customer service script entailed sending a new SIM card. OK... But I told them, it HAS to be an AT&T tower SIM card like she has now. They sent a T-mobile SIM card. She can't get T-mobile where she lives. Then, their replacement to the replacement never arrived. Tired of Net10's crap, I gave her one of my spare US998 V30 phones, and put her on my AT&T Prepaid account. (Lot less money than "regular" AT&T postpaid, if you already own your phone. It seems to be a well-kept secret. Just stay away from AT&T Prepaid "unlimited" plans. Explained below.)
My point, which I almost buried, is there are good MVNOs and bad ones. Some of the bad ones don't tell you clearly WHICH major carrier you are using. The good ones do and let you choose. Some that use Verizon towers may make you use Verizon branded phones (with Verizon IMEI) if you get their "Verizon" SIM card. Others don't care and will let you use Verizon as long as your phone is compatible. Like say, a Sprint LS998 V30+ Frankensteined to a US998. Or LS998 V30+ Frankensteined to a VS996.
If you have a native VS996 V30, then that requisite won't matter. But many Verizon customers bought LS998 V30+ (128GB) and converted them to US998 or bought them off eBay already converted to US998. (Those will never have Verizon-eligible IMEI.) BUT with an already-activated Verizon SIM card -- like switched over from Droid Turbo -- until now that didn't matter. :silly: (I am not sure whether your current phone is native VS996 or one just flashed to VS996 firmware?)
Since Verizon 3G CDMA is shutting down, those people are facing a choice by end of 2020:
* Run stock VS996 firmware on their non-Verizon branded V30 to get VoLTE with their Verizon SIM cards.
OR
* go to an "Verizon" MVNO which will still give them both Verizon service and VoLTE, especially if the "Verizon" MVNO allows non-Verizon branded phones.
OR
* go to another major carrier or carrier MVNO if geography allows.
Total Wireless recommended by @schwinn8 for example allows carrier unlocked phones for their Verizon SIM card and some plans have hotspot.
REVIEW (05/2020)- Total Wireless Review: Cheap Cell Phone Plans on Verizon’s Network
https://clark.com/technology/total-wireless-review/
Plans and Pricing
Total Wireless recently added an “unlimited plan” that provides 25GB of high-speed data for $50 a month.
This budget carrier also offers a number of single and family data plans. I chose the unlimited talk, text and 5GB of data plan that costs $35 a month or $33.20 with auto-refill, plus taxes and fees.
One of the volunteers at Team Clark’s Consumer Action Center made the switch from Verizon to Total Wireless. He told me that he lowered his bill for two lines of service from $130 to $60 a month — an annual savings of $840!
For those who use Wi-Fi at home and work, the 5GB data plan is probably the best choice. Customers can also buy 5GB of add-on data for $10 that rolls over from month-to-month.
All Total Wireless plans include unlimited talk and text, and some plans now support mobile hotspot.
Total Wireless supports Wi-Fi Calling on some devices, but my carrier unlocked Moto G6 didn’t allow me to test this feature.
However, I was able to try its Enhanced 4G LTE Mode, which appears to be another name for VoLTE (Voice over LTE). Once enabled, I could talk on the phone and use data at the same time.
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RedPocket recommended by @TheDannemand is an excellent MVNO for AT&T (using the GSMA SIM card. The A means AT&T). Great "annual plans" for Red Pocket -- for ALL MAJOR CARRIERS -- on ebay. See this note about VoLTE on Red Pocket "Verizon". ("CDMA SIM" is their code word for "Verizon".)
Q: Is this change limited to Red Pocket Mobile?
A: No. This change effects all MVNOs using the same underlying carrier as the Red Pocket CDMA network (i.e. Verizon).
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So, seems like this will affect all "Verizon" MVNOs?
AT&T Prepaid (sold and serviced in AT&T stores) is another excellent source for AT&T. The only caveat is their "unlimited" plans are capped to lower LTE speeds, while their 8GB plan and lower is completely uncapped (70 - 90 Mbps).
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Has anyone ever tried the A.I.S ir A.I.X roms ? Where does a guy even download or acquire these? I did some brief searching but couldnt find but a few references to Telegram, which I joined and briefly tried to find where to download either one but I'm fairly tech incompetent and ran out of time... Would A.I.X be worth looking into and where would i find it?
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A.I.X. -- based on stock LG V30 Pie -- is found on the V30 Telegram thread. It's like stock on steroids. A.I.S. was the Oreo based version. You have to ask for permission to access the specific A.I.X. thread, maintained by the dev. You have to follow the installation instructions completely. To be honest, it's not for beginners. For instance, he replaces Google Play app with a modified one and as a result you can't accept Google Play app updates until he makes a newer one. If you have any problems with the ROM, don't complain. Make sure you've read all the documentation. If you complain, the dev will ban you.
A few things I would add about Red Pocket:
1) They are not ALLOWED to name the carriers whose networks they use. I presume because the carriers consider their brands so precious, they don't want MVNOs to use them in their marketing (as in "we provide service on the Verizon network").
2) While they are indeed pretty great on AT&T (GSMA) I think their T-Mobile service (GSMT) is an even better choice for US998 users as the phone fully and easily supports VoLTE and VoWiFi (WiFi Calling) on the TMO network, with proper Network settings menus and all. On GSMA (and I presume other networks too) you have to rely on the hidden menu to configure it. Unfortunately T-Mobile has become more protective of their service and is currently not available on all Red Pocket plans.
3) I can confirm what ChazzMatt posted that you need a Verizon IMEI to activate Verizon service on Red Pocket (CDMA). I tried a few months ago to switch my plan from GSMA to CDMA using my US998 (converted from LS998) but the system refused based on the IMEI. The agent quietly confirmed that I would need to activate on a VZW phone, then move the SIM over. I wish I had made that switch last year before before their policy changed, but back then I had H932, which doesn't support CDMA. While AT&T has decent reception in my home (better than TMO) it is not as good as it was two years ago. I would expect VZW to be better.
4) When I first got my US998 early this year, I checked its IMEI on their website, and it was compatible with GSMA (AT&T), GSMT (TMO) and CDMAS (Sprint). The Device Compatibility Check is no longer on their website, so I cannot confirm it now.
5) You can switch between the different carriers available on your plan, as long as your phone supports it. You do this through their Customer Service Chat, preferably on the last day of the plan month, since you lose the remaining days of that month. You need an unused SIM card for the carrier you want to switch to. If you don't have one from a starter kit, you'll have to order it from their website ($5 free shipping). Note that old SIM cards can NOT be re-used, so if you need to switch back, make sure you have an unused SIM card.
6) VoLTE is officially provided on all networks. See this. VoWiFi (WiFi Calling) is officially provided on GSMA (AT&T), GSMT (TMO) and CDMAS (Sprint), but NOT CDMA (Verizon). See this. Of course it has to be supported by the phone on the chosen network, but Red Pocket does NOT restrict access to these features. You simply ask them to enable them on your account. GSMA (AT&T) VoLTE works on my US998, but NOT on my wife's H932 (at least not easily). I have not been able to make VoWiFi work on US998 ROM, but it DOES work when flashing H931 ROM on the same phone. Others have confirmed that both VoLTE and VoWiFi work with US998 on TMO. I would definitely try a switch to CDMA (Red Pocket Verizon) with my US998 if I had a VZW IMEI on which to activate. It might work right out of the box (again, since Red Pocket DOES provide it). Otherwise I have enough experience now messing with IMS settings that I think I might be able to make it work.
7) Tethering with US998 works on GSMA by adding "dun" to the APN type. Others have confirmed that it works on genuine Verizon, and we can assume it will work on CDMA, CDMAS and GSMT as well.
8) One benefit I haven't mentioned in previous posts is that international calling is not only supported but FREE on all their plans: As long as you have minutes, you can call most of the world on those minutes at no extra cost. OTOH, sending international SMS has always been unreliable, for some reason.
9) Starting earlier this year Red Pocket began pushing iPhone sales, and downplaying BYOD, which I find annoying. I wonder if the carriers are squeezing them and they're looking for alternate revenue sources.
Alright, there's my Red Pocket write-up. All I can think of
I am on Verizon 's unlimited data plan with my v30 vs996 Frankensteined to us998. So, I will have to permanently go to the vs996 at the end of the year, as you are. Right now we (my wife and I) use her phone as our hot spot paid thru Verizon. We do not have a router for internet services. We pay Verizon for that service. When we first subscribed to it, it was $10.00 a month (not sure what it is now). We also use my phone as a Hotspot for free until the end of the year. I will then check to see if I can subscribe my phone as a hot spot, too, hopefully for the $10.0 per month.
My unlimited plan is thru a business/government plan, though. I don't know if that is why we pay only $10/month or not.
It would be nice if we could keep it the way it is now, but it doesn't appear so.
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I am on Verizon 's unlimited data plan with my v30 vs996 Frankensteined to us998. So, I will have to permanently go to the vs996 at the end of the year, as you are. Right now we (my wife and I) use her phone as our hot spot paid thru Verizon. We do not have a router for internet services. We pay Verizon for that service. When we first subscribed to it, it was $10.00 a month (not sure what it is now). We also use my phone as a Hotspot for free until the end of the year. I will then check to see if I can subscribe my phone as a hot spot, too, hopefully for the $10.0 per month.
My unlimited plan is thru a business/government plan, though. I don't know if that is why we pay only $10/month or not.
It would be nice if we could keep it the way it is now, but it doesn't appear so.
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If you have "genuine" Verizon with official hotspot, couldn't you just use the VS996 ROM and stay that way? It should give you VoLTE, WiFi Calling (I presume), and official hotspot. Something I am missing here?
Yes, I guess I could. But, it does not give me the hot spot at no cost. There is a charge for using the hot spot. ($10.00 last I looked). My wife's phone is an iPhone. Her phone does have the official Hotspot from Verizon at a cost of $10.00 per month. I have not checked the pricing, etc., in a couple of years, but my options at the time were:
1. get my internet thru another carrier at a cost, using a router (I originally had internet thru Qwest-, but, had problems with them and their support, which upset me - - another story, so discontinued them and went totally with Verizon).
2. get Verizon's hot spot device at a cost of $40 per month + a charge for the device itself ($200.00 + it seems?).
3. Use either my phone and/or my wife's phone as the hot spot. ($10.00 per month per phone).
We went with option 3. Use my wife's phone as a hot spot. That way, she always has the option to take/use it anywhere with her iPhone. I also have that option on us998 at no cost.
There are pros and cons with this option, but it's the least expensive for me right now. I do have 4 lines on my plan and pay over $240. a month for my plan.
I do not know how Verizon will work when it changes. I suppose I can have my phone as a hot spot as along with my wife's for the same charge, but have not checked. Or not. But, then if she travels and I stay home, I would be unable to connect another device to the internet (new computer or iPad).
Again, I am on a business/government plan. Which does have its perks.
Sorry for the long winded post.
I understand now. That bit about $240/month was the missing context :laugh:
Why not get a hotspot device from Verizon for $40/month to provide WiFi for the house, then get MUCH cheaper plans on Total Wireless or Red Pocket for the four phones, including only the allotments you actually need. Unless you need Unlimited Everything on all four lines, you'll still save money AND have the convenience of permanent WiFi.
Edit: Of course for the WiFi you could also get a Data Only plan on Red Pocket or TW, using a US998 or other device for the tethering.
Well, I've been on this plan for a few years now. I'm not real sure how that would work, since we have the government account. I just haven't checked. That would also affect the two other lines (not at home here).
Except for on here, I have never heard of the Red Pocket option.
And, last, but not least, I have to have the OK of my wife :>(=). She already does not trust me and my "hacked" phone. She won't let me touch our brand new computer, yet. I want to "clean" it up. (do away with bloat and advertisements, etc.).
So....
I will check into it, but, everything has to be cleared (for Verizon's part) thru our government contract person.
Anyway, I'm sorry, did not mean to hijack the thread from the OP. I thought he might check the option of using his phone as a hotspot for a minimal charge?
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And, last, but not least, I have to have the OK of my wife :>(=). She already does not trust me and my "hacked" phone.
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Ha!
As you know, your "hacked" phone gives you free hotspot (at least for now).
With my wife, it's when it's something she needs. Then she asks for my help. "I know you can figure it how to do this..."
Until then she pretends my hobbies are a waste of time.
VoLTE should work on Verizon if you have the US998...
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VoLTE should work on Verizon if you have the US998...
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VoLTE works for T-Mobile on US998. No one has been able to do it on Verizon with a US998 V30 that was not originally a Verizon branded VS996. Have you?
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VoLTE works for T-Mobile on US998. No one has been able to do it on Verizon with a US998 V30 that was not originally a Verizon branded VS996. Have you?
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I am on a Verizon MVNO and VoLTE has been working on my US998. I have read others who are direct Verizon customers saying the same thing. Just to be clear, I am talking about a true US998 and not a phone crossflashed to US998...
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I am on a Verizon MVNO and VoLTE has been working on my US998. I have read others who are direct Verizon customers saying the same thing. Just to be clear, I am talking about a true US998 and not a phone crossflashed to US998...
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Interesting.
Yes, direct Verizon customer on native US998 and still on US998 firmware is what we're talking about.
I am on red pocket service. I just received an email stating I do not have VOLTE enabled and may lose service. Supposedly, I should be able to enable VOLTE. I reached out to customer service in the past and they stated it is active on their side. Their website says I should be able to see it under settings -> mobile network; but I see not options for VOLTE. I have had **** service the past few months, with texts not being sent despite it showing bars or texts incoming taking a while; I wonder if this is related. Can anyone please help me?
I am on Android 8.0.0
Kernel 4.4.78
Version: US99820h
If it helps, VoLTE plus app says VOLTE is enabled. Do I need to be concerned? Is there any reason my service seems to run like crap? It's red pocket GSM-T. Had many people tell me calling me goes straight to voicemail, I get texts late, for confirmation texts I often have to restart the phone to get the texts to come through... Any fix to this? Should I switch to a different image and go onto a different set of towers/service?
Many V30 phones require the carrier's ROM to operate VOLTE. For example, when I was on Verizon, I had to have VS996 to get VOLTE to work. I also used it on Total Wireless (which is a VZ MVNO) for the same reason.
I'm guessing your GSM-T means you're on TMo, so you may need a TMo ROM to get VOLTE to work. US998 is a world-phone ROM, so it's not carrier specific, which may be why it doesn't work.
As for the general operation, you should be fine on US998 for all other functions... so if you're having issues then there may be something else going on.
You might also just need some updates - 20h is nougat level, which is ancient. You may need to move to Oreo... which worked great for me on my V30 in the past.
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Many V30 phones require the carrier's ROM to operate VOLTE. For example, when I was on Verizon, I had to have VS996 to get VOLTE to work. I also used it on Total Wireless (which is a VZ MVNO) for the same reason.
I'm guessing your GSM-T means you're on TMo, so you may need a TMo ROM to get VOLTE to work. US998 is a world-phone ROM, so it's not carrier specific, which may be why it doesn't work.
As for the general operation, you should be fine on US998 for all other functions... so if you're having issues then there may be something else going on.
You might also just need some updates - 20h is nougat level, which is ancient. You may need to move to Oreo... which worked great for me on my V30 in the past.
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So, do you think I would need switch to a newer ROM, specifically for tmobile? I have been on us998 since buying it, always had some issues with texts coming in late and connectivity (although not as bad as when I had a S5 on Ting's t-mobile network). I had called and been told VOLTE is active with red pocket twice in the past, but despite always being on wifi I've still had people tell me I do not always come in clear when talking on the phone.
Can you point me to a newer ROM you used? I can try updating and messing with the phone later this month.
You can't use my ROM (VS996), as it was for Verizon. I doubt that will work for you. You need to find the proper on for your carrier (TMobile most likely) and see if that fixes the issues. All my ROMs I sourced from this website/forum, so you just need to search the V30 section here.
Note, when switching ROMs, you will need to wipe it so be prepared with backups for your data.
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So, do you think I would need switch to a newer ROM, specifically for tmobile? I have been on us998 since buying it, always had some issues with texts coming in late and connectivity (although not as bad as when I had a S5 on Ting's t-mobile network). I had called and been told VOLTE is active with red pocket twice in the past, but despite always being on wifi I've still had people tell me I do not always come in clear when talking on the phone.
Can you point me to a newer ROM you used? I can try updating and messing with the phone later this month.
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Just be careful NOT to flash H932 ROM on your device, it will brick your phone.
You could try updating to us998 Pie ROM and see if it helps.
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Just be careful NOT to flash H932 ROM on your device, it will brick your phone.
You could try updating to us998 Pie ROM and see if it helps.
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Do you have a us998 pie rom you recommend for me to try?
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Just be careful NOT to flash H932 ROM on your device, it will brick your phone.
You could try updating to us998 Pie ROM and see if it helps.
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I saw chazzmatt mention in another thread that when t mobile and sprint merged, VoLTE/VoWiFi calling on US998 firmware phones may have been lost. He suggested that changing to verizon version is a way to fix this. Is this something I may have to do? And is there a guide on how to do it? I only see switching to us998.
And this would this be the rom to flash to for android 9?
[US998][STOCK][PIE]LG V30 US998 US99830b_00_0902.KDZ
RECOVERY TIPS if you get stuck on logo while updating to this wonky US998 Pie. < Please stop asking in Telegram thread or creating new XDA threads when it's right here. We will just direct you back here. OK? ____________ * Do NOT update to Pie...
forum.xda-developers.com
@ChazzMatt is the resident expert, so you can certainly take his advice. I saw that post as well.
Converting to VS996 just means you will use LGUP to flash that ROM over your current one. The end of the WTF post/thread talks about this process as well (be sure to read that post on a computer, as phones often cut-off the bottom).
Note that this will erase your data, so backup/etc as necessary before doing that. My recommendation is to use the last Oreo version of the ROM, as Pie on VS996 had issues last time I had heard... that's the last ROM I used before switching to my other phone.
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I saw chazzmatt mention in another thread that when t mobile and sprint merged, VoLTE/VoWiFi calling on US998 firmware phones may have been lost. He suggested that changing to verizon version is a way to fix this. Is this something I may have to do? And is there a guide on how to do it? I only see switching to us998.
And this would this be the rom to flash to for android 9?
[US998][STOCK][PIE]LG V30 US998 US99830b_00_0902.KDZ
RECOVERY TIPS if you get stuck on logo while updating to this wonky US998 Pie. < Please stop asking in Telegram thread or creating new XDA threads when it's right here. We will just direct you back here. OK? ____________ * Do NOT update to Pie...
forum.xda-developers.com
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And in doing so, they still need an already-activated Verizon SIM card or Verizon MVNO SIM card. Verizon won't activate a SIM card with a phone that doesn't have native Verizon IMEI. But you can stick in an already activated SIM card into a v30 with VS996 firmware and it's fine. So whoever does this needs to also have an old Verizon phone for that purpose. Buy some cracked screen Verizon phone off eBay, activate Verizon or Verizon MVNO SIM card, THEN put that SIM card into Frankenstein'ed phone flashed with VS9996 (Verizon) firmware.
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And in doing so, they still need an already-activated Verizon SIM card or Verizon MVNO SIM card. Verizon won't activate a SIM card with a phone that doesn't have native Verizon IMEI. But you can stick in an already activated SIM card into a v30 with VS996 firmware and it's fine. So whoever does this needs to also have an old Verizon phone for that purpose. Buy some cracked screen Verizon phone off eBay, activate Verizon or Verizon MVNO SIM card, THEN put that SIM card into Frankenstein'ed phone flashed with VS9996 (Verizon) firmware.
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Are phone numbers attached to the sim? So I would have to: obtain verizon sim card, transfer my phone # while activating a plan on it using another phone, then place it into my current phone after flashing it into VS9996 and upgrading it to 9.0?
Yes, the phone number is attached to the SIM card.
Yes, your steps are correct - activate SIM on some other phone, then put it into the VS996.
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Yes, the phone number is attached to the SIM card.
Yes, your steps are correct - activate SIM on some other phone, then put it into the VS996.
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Hmmm, perhaps before I spend money to switch to verizon I should try upgrading from US99820h to US99830b using that thread I posted above? Maybe that will fix things for me. I thought I had fixed something when I updated my redpocket APN point, but I still get random loss of service where I live and work at (despite constant wifi). According to redpocket customer service, being locked into 240 MNC sim card does not change anything compared to 280 MNC.
Perusing the us99830b thread, I saw if I have TWRP installed then I must use johnfawk's image to flash. I cannot "upgrade" and keep all my data using the firmware off LG's website with LGUP. Am I understanding that part correctly? And the TWRP image for me to download is this link? Mirror Link
First, my recommendation is to stay at Oreo (20-series) ROMs. Last I recall, the V30 Pie rom had issues that were never fixed.
Secondly, yes, I don't believe you can upgrade the ROM... you will need to flash the full ROM which would erase things. That being said, since you're already converting between ROMs you will need to wipe the phone anyway, so do all the updates/upgrade BEFORE you install anything else on your phone. And, of course, backup everything you need before doing that...
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First, my recommendation is to stay at Oreo (20-series) ROMs. Last I recall, the V30 Pie rom had issues that were never fixed.
Secondly, yes, I don't believe you can upgrade the ROM... you will need to flash the full ROM which would erase things. That being said, since you're already converting between ROMs you will need to wipe the phone anyway, so do all the updates/upgrade BEFORE you install anything else on your phone. And, of course, backup everything you need before doing that...
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You mentioned before that 20h is nougat level, but my android version says 8.0.0, isn't that oreo already?
Looking at this site: https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-us998-firmwares/
I am already at the latest Oreo software. So, several questions:
1. I could back up all my stuff and risk missing something, but I can also just create a current TWRP image and go back to where I am presently in terms of all my stuff?
2. Should I be trying a https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-vs996-firmwares/ VS99620k version? When I reboot my phone it says it is a LG V30+ThinQ and I vaguely remember the box it came with said LS998 crossed off, with it booting as a US998 phone.
3. I have an old CDMA Galaxy S3 (best phone I've had). Assuming I am able to boot it up, can I buy a verizon MVNO sim card (let's say off of TING), switch my phone # to that and pop it in the S3? Or can I bum someone else' verizon phone and do this, then give the phone back instantly?
4. If a friend has an old verizon sim card, can I use that to utilize either red pocket or ting services?
5. Then, flash this US99820h to VS99620k, swap the sim card out of the S3 into the newly flashed V30?
6. Assuming I do all this and I still see no menu for VOLTE, assuming I still have the same issues of service dropping constantly, any suggestions for moving to a new phone, or what to use to find a new phone? Many new phones seem to have lots of stuff I do not care for (fancy cameras...) and no 3.5mm jack; but I really crave a phone that is functional.
Sorry for lots of questions. But each day this phone is pissing me off more and more and reminding me to do something about it - been busy and have stuff I do not want to risk losing.
I didn't say 20-series was nougat... I said it was Oreo?
1) TWRP will backup everything, so you could use this as a way to "keep safe" what you have now, and maybe you can break into the ZIP and extract things here and there as needed, but I don't think you can use this as a way to restore just your programs/data... it's a whole-image that you need to restore, which includes the OS and such. But if you're already on Oreo, I don't think you need to do any of that?
2) Yes, you can apply VS99620k. I believe that's what I had on my V30 before I left it. I wouldn't pay much attention to the splash screens on bootup... they change between versions but don't really mean/do anything from what I could see. My phone started as US998 (without the "ThinQ" branding) and I believe it showed the ThinQ branding when I was on VS996.
3) Yes, you'll need an activated SIM on VZ to transfer. Yes this is one way to do it. I did something similar with my Droid Turbo. VZ won't activate anything unless the IMEI matches THEIR phone, so this is one way to get that to happen. The trick, today, is that VZ may not activate the old phone because it's not VOLTE capable, so they'll say it's not supported, so that's a risk you should be aware of. For that matter, a newer SIM also may not work on the older phone... I don't know if that's a thing or not.
4) I don't know if MVNOs will let you use VZ SIM cards. Technically, they should be able to, but my guess is they will require their "own" SIM. You'd have to ask the MVNO.
I moved to the Galaxy S10+, which is a similar size phone, has a headphone jack, and is older so it's lower cost (I think I paid $300 about a year or two ago). A few other V30 faithfuls have followed this path as well. I think ChazzMatt went to a Note because that's what ATT gave him to help him transition to a VOLTE-capable phone. I believe he's still using his V30 though.
Newer Galaxy phones lost the headphone jack. I would recommend getting yourself ready for this eventuality... it may mean just getting a dongle, which isn't convenient, or getting bluetooth adapters... but my point is that it's going away whether you like it or not, so start preparing now.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, the S10 is not rootable (at least with Snapdragon). Exynos can be rooted, but I don't know how usable those are in the USA. That's another thing you may need to get used to - not being able to root/ROM. IMO, it's not necessary anymore, and I have given up on it on my phones... and I haven't missed it AT ALL. But I know some have gotten into heated arguments with me over that... one I recall was particularly nonsensical, but whatever. If I could root, I would do that... but I don't see it as a requirement anymore.
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Hmmm, perhaps before I spend money to switch to verizon I should try upgrading from US99820h to US99830b using that thread I posted above? Maybe that will fix things for me. I thought I had fixed something when I updated my redpocket APN point, but I still get random loss of service where I live and work at (despite constant wifi). According to redpocket customer service, being locked into 240 MNC sim card does not change anything compared to 280 MNC.
Perusing the us99830b thread, I saw if I have TWRP installed then I must use johnfawk's image to flash. I cannot "upgrade" and keep all my data using the firmware off LG's website with LGUP. Am I understanding that part correctly? And the TWRP image for me to download is this link? Mirror Link
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As @schwinn8 recommends staying on Oreo, I also concur.
1) If you have TWRP, just flash the Verizon last Oreo by John Fawkes. See link below.
LG V30 Verizon VS996-20k ROM
Working downlink mirror: VS996 20K Verizon TWRP-flashable ZIP
2) If you don't have TWRP installed -- for people who are not bootloader unlocked -- then you would flash full stock ROM VS996 20K "KDZ" file from US998. See top post in this thread. (For those who are still bootloader locked, the stock Verizon ROMs and US998 ROMs are the only ones for North America variants which are safely fully cross flashable without first having to go through the "Frankentein" conversion "Nougat" stage.)
As for spending money on Verizon to get VOLTE, there are several Verizon MVNOs that are less expensive than Verizon proper and will still do the trick. Both Visible and Total Wireless are even owned by Verizon, like Cricket is owned by AT&T.
RedPocket also offers Verizon-network SIM cards. They are also a Verizon MVNO. Which carrier service are you using with your RedPocket? They offer choice of AT&T (most common), T-Mobile and Verizon. I searched your posts in this thread and you don't say which you have -- so I assume the AT&T-linked SIM card? If you flash the last Oreo TWRP-flashable zip for Verizon, and you want to keep RedPocket, just have them ship you the Verizon-linked SIM card. You should then have VoLTE.
NOTE: You would still need to use an old Verizon phone to activate that SIM card, but then you could put it into your "VS996". I'm only suggesting a way to not have to actually switch to Verizon, you can still use Redpocket but have them send you a Verizon linked SIM once you are on Verizon firmware.
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As for spending money on Verizon to get VOLTE, there are several Verizon MVNOs that are less expensive than Verizon proper and will still do the trick. Both Visible and Total Wireless are even owned by Verizon, like Cricket is owned by AT&T.
RedPocket also offers Verizon-network SIM cards. They are also a Verizon MVNO. Which carrier service are you using with your RedPocket? They offer choice of AT&T (most common), T-Mobile and Verizon. I searched your posts in this thread and you don't say which you have -- so I assume the AT&T-linked SIM card? If you flash the last Oreo TWRP-flashable zip for Verizon, and you want to keep RedPocket, just have them ship you the Verizon-linked SIM card. You should then have VoLTE.
NOTE: You would still need to use an old Verizon phone to activate that SIM card, but then you could put it into your "VS996". I'm only suggesting a way to not have to actually switch to Verizon, you can still use Redpocket but have them send you a Verizon linked SIM once you are on Verizon firmware.
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Got it, if flashing is all I have to do, this will be simple.
I was not clear, I did mean verizon MVNOs, meant more verizon in broader sense: CDMA. I am currently on red pocket T mobile. I was previously on Ting. Had similar issues on both with randomly losing service. It was bearable, but since 3G shutdown timeframe, this became a larger and more frequent issue. Currently, if I turn on data, I get Edge service (I read this is 2g?), otherwise when I am having a texting conversation, I am regularly losing service completely and do not have strong service in places where other Tmobile users have regular service.
On another note, I am looking to swap from red pocket; I spoke to customer service about call records, was told several times they would be sent to me, never received anything. Red pocket prices are hard to beat though.
I impulse bought a pixel 7 unlocked too (there were some incentives that were hard to resist). So, I will probably swap to that phone while holding onto this one and tinkering to see if it was a phone issue, US998 issue, SIM issue, service issue... then give the phone to family in a year or so.