Any working 3rd party USB-C Dacs? - Razer Phone Accessories

Has anyone found a better USB-C dac dongle that works? I bought an Ultrasone Naos dac which was slightly bigger than the Razer one but better sound and power. However I found that it drops the connection randomly when the screen is off. I tried using UAPP, Neutron and Poweramp.
Also, tried the SMSL Idea but that kept making a buzzing noise and I couldn't get it to work ever.

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V-Moda headphones not recognised

My friend has an iPhone and he uses V-Moda headphones and when I bought this phone, he wanted to see the output and connected the headphones to XPS and it doesn't recognize the headphones even though its 3.5mm and on the top the music plays through the speaker in the back.
I have checked the headphones with several other phones like HTC and Nokia they are working fine.
Does anyone know why and how to use these on XPS?
If there are any good headphones for XPS, please suggest.
The ones provided are cheap and sound is poor.
Well i have some kind of 'issue' with this too.
When i connect any headphones other than the stock ones that came with it, it doesn't show up in the notification bar (no headphone icon is appearing).
However, the headphones are working perfectly fine.
The problem i have isn't such a big deal, because they are working anyway.
I reckon any 3.5mm headphones should work, i have no idea what could possibly cause your problem.
I use skullcandy's on it btw, but they are just cheap headphones with bad sound quality

BIG PROBLEM...terrible Noise USB Docking audio/charging out

Has anyone noticed terrible noise when using an S3 docking system or cable to output both Audio and Charging?
- extreme hiss and random noise, machine processor noise, crackle etc. (only if charger is plugged in as well)
- after 2 seconds of no sound, you can hear what resembles to be an AUDIO gate...that kicks in and mutes the noise until you trigger your next button sound.
- Even if you listen to a song, and think it doesn't happen while listening to a song...IT'S still there...fighting the song and causing degradation in Audio quality.
- not too mention, phone calls will NOT route through the USB jack, and music and navigation type stuff.
- if you unplug the charger, the sound cleans right up and sounds fine. It's the combination of having the audio and charging outputs all in one.
- ground loop isolators do not help
I have a background as an audio technician and some electronics skills and I did hours of testing and modding...unfortunately! All failed. I own an Ibolt car cradle (which I did most of my testing with), a KiDiGi desktop docking cradle, and I even hand made a cable that could trigger docking mode. All three of these scenarios FAILED with the NOISE factor.
I have resigned to thinking it is a hardware design bug with the S3. I have modified my Ibolt so that it sends out audio from an extra cable that plugs into the Headphone Jack...which as a bonus, as sends Dialer audio.
(I just realized that this is the i9300 thread, and I have a i747m but maybe this thread could help all the same)
I've had three S3's and used USB audio out to my car stereo via 3.5mm. None ever generated any additional noise.
CZ Eddie said:
I've had three S3's and used USB audio out to my car stereo via 3.5mm. None ever generated any additional noise.
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Eddie...can you confirm these points:
1) You have a usb cable or dock that comes out the bottom of your S3, and it splits into USB for charging....and 3.5mm for audio? (NOT THE HEADPHONE OUT)
Is it a cable or dock and would you mind tell me the name of it?
2) What do you plug the audio into?
- stock car audio input
- front aux input on a car deck stereo system (stock/aftermarket)
- rear aux inputs to aftermarket stereo
- other?
3) with the steareo turned up fairly loud, but no music playing, do you hear any noise when you click buttons (assuming you have audio enabled for button clicks in Android settings) When pausing between loud music, do you hear any white noise, machine noise, hiss etc.?
4) What is your S3 model? (i9300?) and what OS version.
themadproducer said:
1) You have a usb cable or dock that comes out the bottom of your S3, and it splits into USB for charging....and 3.5mm for audio? (NOT THE HEADPHONE OUT)
Is it a cable or dock and would you mind tell me the name of it?
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I've used the Samsung Infuse and also iBolt docks. Both have the split USB cable for charging & 3.mm audio.
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2) What do you plug the audio into?
- stock car audio input
- front aux input on a car deck stereo system (stock/aftermarket)
- rear aux inputs to aftermarket stereo
- other?
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I use the front AUX input on my JVC car stereo.
themadproducer said:
3) with the steareo turned up fairly loud, but no music playing, do you hear any noise when you click buttons (assuming you have audio enabled for button clicks in Android settings) When pausing between loud music, do you hear any white noise, machine noise, hiss etc.?
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I don't remember any noise when clicking buttons?
But we're talking about AUX input which is analog, so when you turn the volume up with no music playing, you'll always hear some "soft" occasional clicks & hiss.
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4) What is your S3 model? (i9300?) and what OS version.
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AT&T GS3 with various ICS ROM's. I don't use AUX anymore because my favorite ROM (AOKP) doesn't have audio out capability when docked.
CZ Eddie said:
I've used the Samsung Infuse and also iBolt docks. Both have the split USB cable for charging & 3.mm audio.
I use the front AUX input on my JVC car stereo.
I don't remember any noise when clicking buttons?
But we're talking about AUX input which is analog, so when you turn the volume up with no music playing, you'll always hear some "soft" occasional clicks & hiss.
AT&T GS3 with various ICS ROM's. I don't use AUX anymore because my favorite ROM (AOKP) doesn't have audio out capability when docked.
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Thanks for replying Eddie. I am so sick of this troubleshooting this crap sometimes. I am very happy with the S3. It is a giant leap forward from my HD2...in most ways...but not all. I am suspecting the USB audio out on my S3 has a defect.
Right now, in the car, I have resigned to using the USB for power and the Headphone jack for audio send to the AUX input of my Sony car stereo on a custom wired Ibolt docking cradle. I still get some PROCESSOR noise when pressing the buttons but it is about 5% of the intensity of using the stock wired Ibolt, or KiDiGi desktop dock...or my hand wired Ycable. Without the USB charging wired up, there is NO NOISE whatsoever with either method.
Digital Output
Reading many threads last night, I discovered that with some roms/kernels, it is also possible to output pure DIGITAL audio from the S3 USB port into a select number of little affordable boutique like amps which decode and amplify the audio and power spkrs and headphones.
My first S3 had some weird noise when using bluetooth. So I drove over to my local corporate AT&T store and let them know. They walked out to my car with a demo S3 and we tested it and it didn't have any noise at all. So they swapped out my phone for a new one and I've been happy ever since.
Maybe you could try that?
Regarding boutique amps... this guy in one of my threads was talking about that. I didn't understand half of what he said.
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum...h-compatible-car-stereo-deck.html#post1674875
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My first S3 had some weird noise when using bluetooth. So I drove over to my local corporate AT&T store and let them know. They walked out to my car with a demo S3 and we tested it and it didn't have any noise at all. So they swapped out my phone for a new one and I've been happy ever since.
Maybe you could try that?
Regarding boutique amps... this guy in one of my threads was talking about that. I didn't understand half of what he said.
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum...h-compatible-car-stereo-deck.html#post1674875
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Yup that's it. There are a few examples on youtube. Interesting how it's this TRADE SECRET feature. I mean, I have not seen this advertised anywhere and the places on the net where I found examples....the guys talk about it as if it's this common well known feature. Apparently, next to having one of these setups, the Iphone4 has the the best rating for sound/volume/curve output...almost neck to neck with a dedicated DAC...I think they call it!
I bet if I spent another $100+ bucks for one of these amps, and ran it in my car through a power Inverter (12v to 110v inverter), that I could run the Digital signal out without the interference of my USB analogue out issue. But, I am past that now.
Thanks for your input Eddie!
DAC direct solved this problem for me with Siyah Kernel.
This also happens when you are charged with a car charger and using the line out.
Sent from my GT-I9300
Arkanius said:
DAC direct solved this problem for me with Siyah Kernel.
This also happens when you are charged with a car charger and using the line out.
Sent from my GT-I9300
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Arkanius...are you saying...
1) You had the same terrible noise when charging in a car.... with usb audio analogue into aux input of car stereo?
2) and that you hooked up a DAC to resolve the car noise issue? If yes, would you mind sharing the DAC model with us and the cable used?
Although I may be digging up an old thread, it may be worth looking into (Currently majoring in Electrical Engineering and having completed two signal analysis classes).
themadproducer, were you able to get a spectrum output of the noise? If it just a set of static frequencies, a cascading array of notch filters may work out
EDIT: reading your mention of the USB charging, its quite possible that if the voltage converter is of cheap quality, the transistors involved in the voltage conversion from 12.0-14.0 Volts DC down to ~5.0 Volts DC may be giving off Radio Frequency noise, with the noise being picked by the audio cable due to physical proximity, akin to cross-talking in network cables ( a form of mutual inductance)

Low volume for headphones solution

Some of you may agree but some may disagree. The audio output of the 3.5mm headphone jack is far to quiet.
A cheap and easy solution to this is I bought the USB-C to 3.5mm DAC from HTC. Join the HTC club and it was £5.95 with free next day delivery.
Much louder and very good quality. Can't find any specification on what BIT the DAC is and I don't have the tools to measure it but its far better than the build in 3.5mm jack.
http://shop.eu.htc.com/store/htcemea/en_GB/pd/productID.5093216900/parentCategoryID.70508500/
I've got tinnitus in my right ear from constantly having a headphone in it for a number of years. I used to always listen on the loudest volume. With the xperia xz you can have active noise cancelling headphones, I can warmly recommend the nc31em in ear, I bought a pair for 15 bucks and it uses the processor of the phone so you don't have to carry a big dongle. Now I can listen at half volume and still hear everything better than I did before!
I received a Griffin iTrip Clip Bluetooth headphone adapter so I could be wire free from my phone and found this improved the loudness and remained good quality audio. You may get a bit of breakage occasionally if multitasking but for £14 from Amazon, it's a cracking piece of kit!
Fantastic solution
I have followed the steps of signing up for HTC Club, and ordering the adapter straight away. It really came next day with no extra charge for delivery. And oh boy, the sound is amazing! I am bit of geek when it comes to headphones, so i have a multiple different types. The difference between using the audio jack output of the phone and using the usb c adapter is NIGHT and DAY. Not only loudness is incomparable higher, the pure quality of the sound is improved in every way. I do not believe that there is DAC hidden in the adapter, as it is quite small and low priced. What makes difference in my opinion is the additional power phone can send to the headphones by using the USB C out. Difference is so big, that this workaround can be seen as hidden features to extent, as Sony has not said a thing about using your USB C out for audio. Now I truly understand why the removal of headphone jack make sense as even phones with not the best DAC and AMP can produce great sound thanks to power of USB C.
In case of Sony Xperia XZ however, it looks as DAC is of a top- notch quality(it officially supports Hi-Res codecs after all) but the AMP is criminally under-powered and so combined with Sony obeying EU regulations for safe listening volume converts to quality sound but on quiet side. But thanks to this adapter the DAC is no longer tied to volume level set by headphone jack.
Everyone who owns this phone must buy this, especially considering the low price of the adapter. You need hear it to believe it.
jms.flynn said:
Some of you may agree but some may disagree. The audio output of the 3.5mm headphone jack is far to quiet.
A cheap and easy solution to this is I bought the USB-C to 3.5mm DAC from HTC. Join the HTC club and it was £5.95 with free next day delivery.
Much louder and very good quality. Can't find any specification on what BIT the DAC is and I don't have the tools to measure it but its far better than the build in 3.5mm jack.
http://shop.eu.htc.com/store/htcemea/en_GB/pd/productID.5093216900/parentCategoryID.70508500/
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I was on another trip recently and one scheduled for next week. Indeed the sound out of the headphone jack is extremely low so I ordered one of these gadgets and will arrive on Friday. The success from others is what I expect to gain and will report back
USB Type C to 3.5mm Earphone Headphone Cable Adapter USB-C to 3.5mm Jack Aux Cable for Letv 2 2pro max2 Pro 3 Xiaomi 6
http://s.aliexpress.com/UnmURNbM
(from AliExpress Android)
Efe64 said:
USB Type C to 3.5mm Earphone Headphone Cable Adapter USB-C to 3.5mm Jack Aux Cable for Letv 2 2pro max2 Pro 3 Xiaomi 6
http://s.aliexpress.com/UnmURNbM
(from AliExpress Android)
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Hello i bought thi product but isn't working for me do i need to do something else or just plugging in ??
RedJHoN said:
Hello i bought thi product but isn't working for me do i need to do something else or just plugging in ??
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Its not working for me too...using the xaomi dongle
Just asking is they a way of updating the dongle without having a htc device I've installed the audio usb jack toolkit from htc but nothing seems to happen
Thanks
Thank you so much for this. The low earphone volume was driving me mad. So after reading this, I bought the same thing from HTC and it works fantastically and sounds amazing now.
Is is working also on oreo latest update?
triggaz said:
Is is working also on oreo latest update?
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Yes works fine with Oreo.
Two kinds of USBC to 3.5mm Adapters, beware.
Just so folks know, there are two types of USB-C 3.5mm adapters out there - Digital and Analog.
All decent phones should support the Digital adapters, since they are just USB Audio Class devices made small. You could also plug them into a PC. Because they contain the DAC and amplifier, they will be spendy.
However, the $2 Passive adapters have no DAC in them. They trigger a special mode of the phone that basically puts the USB-C jack into an analog 3.5mm mode and the rest is just plastic and metal. The DAC is in the phone. The phone has to specifically support this mode, and will likely indicate USB-C Analog Accessory Mode in their specifications. Xperia XZ Premium does NOT support this mode, and never will - it has to be built into the hardware.
Just sayin.
FirmwareGuy said:
Just so folks know, there are two types of USB-C 3.5mm adapters out there - Digital and Analog.
All decent phones should support the Digital adapters, since they are just USB Audio Class devices made small. You could also plug them into a PC. Because they contain the DAC and amplifier, they will be spendy.
However, the $2 Passive adapters have no DAC in them. They trigger a special mode of the phone that basically puts the USB-C jack into an analog 3.5mm mode and the rest is just plastic and metal. The DAC is in the phone. The phone has to specifically support this mode, and will likely indicate USB-C Analog Accessory Mode in their specifications. Xperia XZ Premium does NOT support this mode, and never will - it has to be built into the hardware.
Just sayin.
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how come some people heard a huge difference in audio quality?
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jms.flynn said:
Some of you may agree but some may disagree. The audio output of the 3.5mm headphone jack is far to quiet.
A cheap and easy solution to this is I bought the USB-C to 3.5mm DAC from HTC. Join the HTC club and it was £5.95 with free next day delivery.
Much louder and very good quality. Can't find any specification on what BIT the DAC is and I don't have the tools to measure it but its far better than the build in 3.5mm jack.
http://shop.eu.htc.com/store/htcemea/en_GB/pd/productID.5093216900/parentCategoryID.70508500/
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htc website doesnt ship to my region
where else can I buy it from?
madshark2009 said:
how come some people heard a huge difference in audio quality?
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Because people are trying different USB Audio headphones. Sony is not in control of their quality or amplification since the DAC and amp are in the headphones. For those using different 3.5mm headsets, their quality varies greatly. Sony expects folks to buy theirs, preferably with their active noise canceling that they wrote software for. It works well but as stated, they are not very loud.
-FG
FirmwareGuy said:
Because people are trying different USB Audio headphones. Sony is not in control of their quality or amplification since the DAC and amp are in the headphones. For those using different 3.5mm headsets, their quality varies greatly. Sony expects folks to buy theirs, preferably with their active noise canceling that they wrote software for. It works well but as stated, they are not very loud.
-FG
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ok so I have an audio system in my car, and volume in headphones gets super low compared to CD (I know CD quality is the best you can get i think) but still its VERY very low compared to it, in aux on 13db I get same loudness as 7db in CD, which means I have to turn it on almost twice as much as a cd to hear same loudness, (why dont I simply turn my audio more than usual on a cd?) because I like listening to very loud music and I some times get to 23db on a cd and its very loud and on aux i must reach at least 40db to get close to being as loud but my audio system only supports up to 30db so I am getting aux loudness of 15-16db compared to CD.
will the usb 3.0 to AUX DAC help me get louder volume?

Headphones sound issue. (white noise)

So i got brand new S21 ten days ago, Exynos model, and i right away got type-c to 3.5mm adapter for my headphones (not original Samsung), i immediately noticed white noise when playing any media in any app.
Now i just bought AKG oem Samsung headphones with type-c connector thinking this will solve the problem and the noise is even worse, 10x stronger.. these headphones are unusable. EDIT: tried on A71, works fine.
Anyone else having the same problem?
What's strange is that when for example in YT video is complete silence noise disappears, but when there's sound noise appears.. noise is switching off and on in silent and loud scenes.
On my Xiaomi BT Earphones sound is perfect, so it has to be due to audio port on the phone.
I have only used true wireless Earbuds so I can't offer experience with the type C port. All I can say is that all of my Bluetooth audio is free of hiss.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
So i got brand new S21 ten days ago, Exynos model, and i right away got type-c to 3.5mm adapter for my headphones (not original Samsung), i immediately noticed white noise when playing any media in any app.
Now i just bought AKG oem Samsung headphones with type-c connector thinking this will solve the problem and the noise is even worse, 10x stronger.. these headphones are unusable. EDIT: tried on A71, works fine.
Anyone else having the same problem?
What's strange is that when for example in YT video is complete silence noise disappears, but when there's sound noise appears.. noise is switching off and on in silent and loud scenes.
On my Xiaomi BT Earphones sound is perfect, so it has to be due to audio port on the phone.
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You need an adapter with a built-in DAC like this one.
Andro Uno said:
You need an adapter with a built-in DAC like this one.
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Thanks, will try to find one locally, lots of stuff on amazon is not available, or way too expensive for adapter..

Question Any compatible wired earbuds (hands free)with S23 ultra (s23 series)?

I bought Huawei CM33 Earbuds Handsfree USB-C white, but the phone didn't recognise the hands free earbuds. I'm looking for a good compatible hands free set with loud bass and clear sound. Any suggestions?
Jabra elite 85t work
alilou.bm said:
Jabra elite 85t work
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These are Bluetooth headset I think. I prefer wired ones
Samsung GH59-15198A, as provided with Note 10+ (and S20 series). I still use it with S23U. It can still be purchased online.
Galaxy Buds 2 (SM-R177NZKAXAC) working great.
I just use the google usb c headphone adapter
You need a USB-C to 3.5mm jack adapter that HAS A DAC. The reason why your Huawei headphones didn't work is because Huawei phones have the DAC built in.
I have both the S23ULTRA and an old Mate20Pro, plus a Huawei adapter (not working) and headphones (also not working).
Bought a 32 bit/192kHz DAC from AliExpress (overkill for my ears) and it sounds excellent.
I use a wired Sony MDR-EX650AP (stereo + mic) in-ear headphones with an iNassen USB-C to 3.5mm jack audio adapter, the latter bought initially for my e-book reader so I can still use wired headphones connected to its USB-C port.
I doubt this adapter has any DAC apart from what it is required for filtering noise and converting signal itself, however for months on this phone it's been working fine. Even at lowest levels sound is sufficiently loud, clear and the adapter is very thin and not bulky so feels like an extension to the 3.5mm cable. Of course, especially since the phone is frequently in my pockets, in moments the USB-C cable can "get disconnected" software-wise (physically it always stays connected) when moving or when the phone hits different parts of the belt or the pockets - S23U is massive, but this has nothing to do with the quality of both the adapter and the headphones. I bought the adapter on Amazon some years ago, although you may try something similar of another brand - just watch for highest possible bit/kHz ratio on specs and it should work straight away - the S23 Ultra is powerful enough to run (without DAC) any non-professional low-impedance headphones connected. Not certain about audio and mic though since the mic on the above Sony's stopped working for me after having this out in a rain last year. But it could, I see no reason why not.
Menergy said:
I use a wired Sony MDR-EX650AP (stereo + mic) in-ear headphones with an iNassen USB-C to 3.5mm jack audio adapter, the latter bought initially for my e-book reader so I can still use wired headphones connected to its USB-C port.
I doubt this adapter has any DAC apart from what it is required for filtering noise and converting signal itself, however for months on this phone it's been working fine. Even at lowest levels sound is sufficiently loud, clear and the adapter is very thin and not bulky so feels like an extension to the 3.5mm cable. Of course, especially since the phone is frequently in my pockets, in moments the USB-C cable can "get disconnected" software-wise (physically it always stays connected) when moving or when the phone hits different parts of the belt or the pockets - S23U is massive, but this has nothing to do with the quality of both the adapter and the headphones. I bought the adapter on Amazon some years ago, although you may try something similar of another brand - just watch for highest possible bit/kHz ratio on specs and it should work straight away - the S23 Ultra is powerful enough to run (without DAC) any non-professional low-impedance headphones connected. Not certain about audio and mic though since the mic on the above Sony's stopped working for me after having this out in a rain last year. But it could, I see no reason why not.
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You may doubt your usb c adapter has a DAC, but the S23U does NOT provide analogue music output to the USB C port. Without a DAC in the chain (in adapter, in headset, separate DAC) no audible music.
gpap2004 said:
I bought Huawei CM33 Earbuds Handsfree USB-C white, but the phone didn't recognise the hands free earbuds. I'm looking for a good compatible hands free set with loud bass and clear sound. Any suggestions?
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Soundmagic e10 or e11
i use this.
2.3 usd.
support s23 ultra dan laptop type c.
gpap2004 said:
I bought Huawei CM33 Earbuds Handsfree USB-C white, but the phone didn't recognise the hands free earbuds. I'm looking for a good compatible hands free set with loud bass and clear sound. Any suggestions?
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Good bass, no adapter required, ebay has the lowest prices.
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Better overall but you’ll need an adapter.

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