Weak Headphone Audio - Mate 10 Pro - Huawei Mate 10 Questions & Answers

Just got a mate 10 Pro to compare to my u11+ and found that every dongle used with the Mate 10 Pro sounds so quiet. The U11+ is so much louder but even the OP3T and S8 seem louder. Has anyone else found this to be the case? I've used the stock dongle, Google's and Razerphone and they are LOUD on S8 and U11+ but extremely quiet on Mate 10 Pro

Have you tried playing around with the sound option? Specifically the Huawei Histen Sound Effects option.

amonrei said:
Have you tried playing around with the sound option? Specifically the Huawei Histen Sound Effects option.
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Yeah and it makes things sound different, it's basically just an EQ right. Doesn't do anything in terms of making sound louder and boosting everything via EQ for loudness is simply a no go. Via Bluetooth it's fine because my P7s built in amp is used. My wired headsets sound horrible through the Mate 10 Pro though.

Galactus said:
Yeah and it makes things sound different, it's basically just an EQ right. Doesn't do anything in terms of making sound louder and boosting everything via EQ for loudness is simply a no go. Via Bluetooth it's fine because my P7s built in amp is used. My wired headsets sound horrible through the Mate 10 Pro though.
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Same here.
Sound could be better honestly.
With dongle or with Bluetooth headset, sound is just ok...

Audio capabilities of this phone are a big disappointment in my opinion. If someone can help to make things better please let us know.

Same issue. Mate and 10 lite

No issue whatsoever. I bought the fabulous sony-wh-1000xm2 and live is seriously good. Streaming high res flacs over 990 kbs LDAC

With Mate 10, even with cheap Philips in-ear headset (Philips-SHE3595BK) sound is very clear and loud.
I can't even imagine with a good quality headset.

Using some mdr-1a and the USB c headphones from htc bolt/10 Evo. Both sound very very good, clear and Loud.
I have rooted my phone and can try to find out if there is a way to boost audio via USB c headphones / the adapter
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Sound is good but imo, not enough high with headsets

Yes, the max output level is quite low for the dongle. Over BT it's the same as other sources in output level since that's not set by the phone.

Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?

john.6 said:
Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
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Asia model here. Again: it's only playback through the dongle, not Bluetooth.

john.6 said:
Is this on European phones only ? could it be the EU volume limit as seen on many mp3 players etc ?
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I think so.
It was always like that with all devices I had before.
Need root to increase level sadly

@Galactus so I got the u11 today and tried the dongle on the huawei. and man! it IS SO MUCH LOUDER and everything sounds better too!

With my IE80 the sound is loud enough... But the impedance is also only 16Ohms...
Since there isn't a headphone jack anyways, you can buy the Good Pixel USB Dac, heard it's quite good, at "iPhone" level.

Luinwethion said:
With my IE80 the sound is loud enough... But the impedance is also only 16Ohms...
Since there isn't a headphone jack anyways, you can buy the Good Pixel USB Dac, heard it's quite good, at "iPhone" level.
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I did the audio tweak now, and it is much louder with original dongle and audio is good too
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On my Mate 10 non pro bt audio is not as loud as my mate 9 but wired is good.

DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
@Galactus so I got the u11 today and tried the dongle on the huawei. and man! it IS SO MUCH LOUDER and everything sounds better too!
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Indeed it is and yet the U11+ is even louder
Not that it is necessary but the extra voltage and lower volume brings out more of the sound etc.
The best dongle I have used is the Razerphone dongle followed by the Pixel 2 dongle. The HTC dongle is actually the worst, but still better than what Huawei bundled with the Mate 10 Pro

Galactus said:
Indeed it is and yet the U11+ is even louder
Not that it is necessary but the extra voltage and lower volume brings out more of the sound etc.
The best dongle I have used is the Razerphone dongle followed by the Pixel 2 dongle. The HTC dongle is actually the worst, but still better than what Huawei bundled with the Mate 10 Pro
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oh crazy, then I gonna order it, if it is available in germany

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Poor headphone amp on phone?

Hello! Last Friday I noticed when I started to listen music with Sony's XBA-H3 using viper4android for fine tuning. When I tried to get a lot bass out with these headphones, music becomes very compressed. There was a lot less problems with galaxy s5 supplying enough power for these.
Who has bang and Olufsen, can they test out how much more headphone power they can get out of their phones? I mean If it isn't that much better than stock, then I prefer external battery powered DAC but another thing to carry :/.
Thanks!
saletan said:
Hello! Last Friday I noticed when I started to listen music with Sony's XBA-H3 using viper4android for fine tuning. When I tried to get a lot bass out with these headphones, music becomes very compressed. There was a lot less problems with galaxy s5 supplying enough power for these.
Who has bang and Olufsen, can they test out how much more headphone power they can get out of their phones? I mean If it isn't that much better than stock, then I prefer external battery powered DAC but another thing to carry :/.
Thanks!
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I agree with you. I've already got HTC ONE M7 and audio quality and specially amplified sound is much better than my new G5. I think this model simply just have it and that's reason why thy released audio module [emoji6]
zedyo said:
I agree with you. I've already got HTC ONE M7 and audio quality and specially amplified sound is much better than my new G5. I think this model simply just have it and that's reason why thy released audio module [emoji6]
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Yeah and it won't help that xba h3 is really, I mean really power hungry for earbuds.. :'D even my PC internal headphone amp has problem to power this properly and I think it's a better amp. And even my mixer has some problems (not anymore if I use viper4android + mixer) to power this and play loud with bass but 3.5 mm to 6.3 adapter is faulty or this is not compatible with it because this cable on my xba h3 has extra analog channels for the volume control and playback so it has to be very loosened up to work with both channels

Xiaomi Type C Noise Cancellation Headset

Will this headset works with our device?
40$ for ANC headset seems cheap
https://www.gearbest.com/earbud-headphones/pp_636900.html
Any info..!
It works with RR ROM (I haven't tested with other ROMs), but it isn't recognized as a headset, so you can listen to music, but you can't use it for phone calls.
If anybody knows a workaround to get it to work, it would be great.
What about noice cancellation? Is it working? Thats what make this headset different..!
ANC is a functionality that is provided by the headset, not the phone. To answer your question, yes it works. I have no comparable headphones, but it works quite great when I use the bus or train.
I see some reviews saying ANC is working only from mi music app thats why I asked whether its working in our phone or not.
How are you turning on ANC from headset? Is there a key for that?
There is a little switch placed on the remote. When it's activated, a tiny blue led lights up.
ANC isn't restricted to an application. You can plug in the earphone, activate ANC and it works, without opening an app, or play music.
Good..Thank you..!
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Good..Thank you..!
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I'm thinking of buying one. Did it work out for you? I'm using Lineage OS also, have you tried on a custom ROM as well? Thanks!!!
I am thinking of getting one too but I want an assurance that it would work when I get it. Also, I read reviews online about the sound quality but am still quite sceptical about the sound. So if anyone has tested it out and tried few eq's on them such as Viper4Android, please your opinion would be very useful. Thank u.
I finally got one for my leeco le max 2!!!!! It's good but my equalizer (Viper4Android) doesn't work for it and that's a little disappointing. But with apps such as Poweramp you can get better sound quality. I can say the headphones sounds better than the stock cdla headphones and yes the anc(active noise cancellation) works!!!. Drains a little more battery but I guess it functions like cdla(I mean similar power consumption)... In my own review it's quite good.
Same problem here with viperfx, I think it's because the earphones aren't recognized as usb input. Randomly DolbyAtmos workes for me as an equalizer, but not all the time and I don't know what affects this.
V/S the leeco Cdla
andrew0070 said:
I finally got one for my leeco le max 2!!!!! It's good but my equalizer (Viper4Android) doesn't work for it and that's a little disappointing. But with apps such as Poweramp you can get better sound quality. I can say the headphones sounds better than the stock cdla headphones and yes the anc(active noise cancellation) works!!!. Drains a little more battery but I guess it functions like cdla(I mean similar power consumption)... In my own review it's quite good.
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Looks like you have both How much better is it when compared to the leeco cdla?
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Looks like you have both How much better is it when compared to the leeco cdla?
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Well audio clarity is most definitely obvious on the Xiaomi noise cancelling earbuds also durability in terms of the cable is quite good ANC(active noise cancellation is not as great as I hoped especially when compared to a different pair of ANC earbud i used to have in about the same price range) however the sound in general that is, the bass especially the bass, the mid and highs are ok on the cdla earphones, but durability is terrible. MY cdla earphones cord ripped to shreds that's how bad the cables are.
BAD NEWS: My Xiaomi earbuds fell on the floor and the left ear just died(only very faint sound could be heard) but the right ears were okay, so am not so sure of its durability. And I just recently got the earbuds

Low Headphone Volume

Hey guys!
So i just bought a P20 lite, switched from Iphone 6 to this new phone and I love it.
But i figured out the headphones volume (with the same headphones) is just really really really low, i tought something is wrong with my Phone, but i've tried out a few in the Retail Store, and they are the same low volume as mine. Is there any way to make it louder without Rooting? I saw a few videos on YouTube that you can go into an EngineeringMode, but it only works with the MediaTek phones.
Any ideas?
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Hey guys!
So i just bought a P20 lite, switched from Iphone 6 to this new phone and I love it.
But i figured out the headphones volume (with the same headphones) is just really really really low, i tought something is wrong with my Phone, but i've tried out a few in the Retail Store, and they are the same low volume as mine. Is there any way to make it louder without Rooting? I saw a few videos on YouTube that you can go into an EngineeringMode, but it only works with the MediaTek phones.
Any ideas?
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Don't call me names, but have you tried the obvious of choosing "Yes" when a prompt saying "Raise volume above..." When increasing the sound via volume buttons?
Grazmeister said:
Don't call me names, but have you tried the obvious of choosing "Yes" when a prompt saying "Raise volume above..." When increasing the sound via volume buttons?
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Yeah of course, it seems to be a software limitation i think. But its kinda stupid.
Where did you buy the phone?
I've been using mine and the sound outputs perfectly, even with the headphones provided. I'm able to listen to music while commuting and hearing properly while driving with my windows down
Grazmeister said:
Where did you buy the phone?
I've been using mine and the sound outputs perfectly, even with the headphones provided. I'm able to listen to music while commuting and hearing properly while driving with my windows down
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Well i bought at UPC Hungary (ISP) so its coming from a verified supplier, with Huawei warranty, now i went to huawei to fix my phone, becuase i bought a BT headphone, and it was lagging while listening to music (Music was stoping for 1-2 sec, then it was playing fast forward for a few) so right now im just waiting
clawlancer said:
Well i bought at UPC Hungary (ISP) so its coming from a verified supplier, with Huawei warranty, now i went to huawei to fix my phone, becuase i bought a BT headphone, and it was lagging while listening to music (Music was stoping for 1-2 sec, then it was playing fast forward for a few) so right now im just waiting
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Let's hope for the best .
Hi,
I have the same "issue" with mine. Also switched from i6 and I've used OnePlus 3T as well and both of them were louder and the quality was much better than P20 lite.
Do you have any solution? (bought it from Vodafone Hungary)
You are comparing a mid-range phone with an apple flagship phone definitely the p20 lite will be a bit lower than the iphone even with high end earphones its not gonna sound like a flagship one
it has software limitation...i can increase sound by 200 and maybe 300% (did it in P8) but my phone not rooted, and i listing music through bt headsets
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You are comparing a mid-range phone with an apple flagship phone definitely the p20 lite will be a bit lower than the iphone even with high end earphones its not gonna sound like a flagship one
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Iphone 6 is not even close to a flagship phone, really old, so the comparison is i think not one sided.
I to was not happy with the volume on the P20 lite, but as pointed out, it is at a Perfect Pitch to enable you to Still listen to what is going on around you(well done Huawei), which is a very good safety precaution. The quality of the sound is very good, I can only put it down to the type and make of headphones you are using, travelling on the London tube where there is a lot of noise I prefer the Denon exercise freak in-ear (wireless), these headphones also have their own volume that block out everything, including the tube, perfect for the surroundings. But for normal everyday use I prefer wired overhead B&O h6 headphones for the quality, and being able to hear surrounding sounds is for me a must(safety is a hi feature in my life). Try Currys PC World they have a good range of headphones that are set up for testing and I'm sure you will find a set that meet your needs.

Solution: Poor quality audio and low volume usb-c to 3.5mm output

When i got the P20 Pro in October i was astonished at how BAD the audio quality and volume output was. That was using the supplied official usb-c to 3.5mm cable of course.
I found the same using the P30 Pro using the same cable.
Then i discovered there is cables out there with much better DAC's in the cables - as its digital to analogue cable. Bottom line problem solved....deep bass, clear mids, and sweet treble.
This is the cable i got https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KW3XYQX
simba2585 said:
When i got the P20 Pro in October i was astonished at how BAD the audio quality and volume output was. That was using the supplied official usb-c to 3.5mm cable of course.
I found the same using the P30 Pro using the same cable.
Then i discovered there is cables out there with much better DAC's in the cables - as its digital to analogue cable. Bottom line problem solved....deep bass, clear mids, and sweet treble.
This is the cable i got https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KW3XYQX
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Great info. What headphones are u using? I might give it a try with the AKG S9+ headphones from my older device
SilviuO said:
Great info. What headphones are u using? I might give it a try with the AKG S9+ headphones from my older device
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To be honest i havent tried with headphones - i use the phone mainly in the car for music using the AUX input to the sound system. It was really bad quality before i got the new cable. Transformed the sound completely, like buying a new hifi lol.
The headphones i do use tend to require an amp to get the most out of them, AKG K550 and Sennheiser HD590......
I am surprised that none of the reviews picked up on this cable short coming, particularly in the P20 Pro reviews since it comes with a cable.....
simba2585 said:
To be honest i havent tried with headphones - i use the phone mainly in the car for music using the AUX input to the sound system. It was really bad quality before i got the new cable. Transformed the sound completely, like buying a new hifi lol.
The headphones i do use tend to require an amp to get the most out of them, AKG K550 and Sennheiser HD590......
I am surprised that none of the reviews picked up on this cable short coming, particularly in the P20 Pro reviews since it comes with a cable.....
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I have their wireless headphones, Freelace, but it's annoying because when using on my P30 Pro the sound vs video is delayed (1-2 seconds). Tryed in dev option to change codec, but still an issue. I hoped that in EMUI 10 they will sort it out, but is the same. And seeing your post made me remember of my AKG from Samsung headphones, to give them a chance since they are never used
Yeah, strange. Maybe no one had any interests in promoting this cable or no one ever care
Gonna give it a try (when back in stock).
Thanks again
SilviuO said:
I have their wireless headphones, Freelace, but it's annoying because when using on my P30 Pro the sound vs video is delayed (1-2 seconds). Tryed in dev option to change codec, but still an issue. I hoped that in EMUI 10 they will sort it out, but is the same. And seeing your post made me remember of my AKG from Samsung headphones, to give them a chance since they are never used
Yeah, strange. Maybe no one had any interests in promoting this cable or no one ever care
Gonna give it a try (when back in stock).
Thanks again
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there are several other cables you could try also which feature the same thing. for reference mine was priced around £8-9. I have seen some price around £30. When i ordered i thought hmmm no way the cheaper cable will work but it did.
simba2585 said:
there are several other cables you could try also which feature the same thing. for reference mine was priced around £8-9. I have seen some price around £30. When i ordered i thought hmmm no way the cheaper cable will work but it did.
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Thanks again, gonna do an Amazon search later for other ones

Question Bluetooth sound quality is horrible

Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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One plus Nord 2 is a budget phone yet not cheaper than other budget phones, yet they give a low-quality device like this. Try listening in a different Bluetooth headset.
No issue here, I have samsung galaxy buds+ TWS (aac mode) and a Marshall Mid (aptx mode) and bluetooth quality is perfect in both cases.
And for the lack of Dirac support in bluetooth mode I use the app "Poweramp Equalizer" to get some more bass in my headset
For music you can try jethdaudio player. It is extremely good.
I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
majloft said:
So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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Maybe a faulty piece really should just visit a service centre with all those headsets and see if it can be fixed if possible test out some more headsets by asking from your friends. Also check the settings of the music app you are using it's unlikely but still possible that it's set on low
Can't get it replaced.. Cracked the screen 5 minutes after I took the phone out of the box
Most folks dont know this, but bluetooth is a modern NAME for 'A' software version of hardware based tech capable of transmitting 240v AC through the air.
Tunguska anyone? That was the test, and the origional copywright is owned by TESLA.
Bluetooth, was designed to do the same, it's designed for AC current, explaining why bluetooth digital audio is the WORST sound ever invented.
Blutooth sounds so crap due to the following:
1: The inventors of digital audio decided to remove EVERY frequency the human ear cant hear. (according to who?)
2: They are now removing the lower base frequencies that we COULD hear, if we had say speaker's like my set of BW speaker's used by the BBC in the 60's and 70's, which can produce EVERY frequency. To make these speakers today is £14.000 PER speaker.
3: By removing all lower frequencies, they removed what is known in music, as the BODY of sound. They started this with digital techno, aka goa trance. I stopped buying musical digital instruments just because of this. If you take a 90's version of say 'Rising High's Church of Extacy' ( The tune that officially killed rock and roll due to it's pure analogue sound quality, hardness, and the deepest bass ) then play it through bluetooth, all you hear is tsstsstsstss, because the tweaters you think are great sounding speakers literally cant play anything under the highhat, without ECHO to fake the BASS.
If it's audio QUALITY you want, DROP bluetooth. Simple.
Another note:
As a dj of over 40 years in the undergound dance music scene, the one thing I cant understand is why I now have no CHOICE but to buy headphones for djing with a bluetooth mic built in! This allows whoever is spying on what we SAY to record my tune or live mix before I leave the gig, and claim it as their own. Try buying decent ANALOGUE headfones for djing.
Final note.
Nfc: the modern day verion of blutooth. Interfere's with bluetooth audio in that the AC current also has it's own magnetic field, which can, like binaural beats, interfere with bluetooth. Most fones use bluetooth AND Nfc. nae luck.
I personnaly know the best hacker in Scotland. 12 letters after his name in computer sciences...! He wrote the bluetooth app the gov called tap n trace, and he sold it to them for £30.000, they added Nfc (Near field Communication) and got most people in the world to install it in their fone. NIce one Gi88's!
Bluetooth... did you bite?
majloft said:
So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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I am using my Sony WH-1000XM3 and it supports LDAC. The audio quality is great with support for equaliser. The only way to get LDAC was change the mode from connection stability to sound quality mode in sony headphone app. By default, it supports SBC. Pls check your headphone's app and also check if your headphone supports relevant codec.hope this helps.
I had a similar issue with my Nord 2 and my Libratone Too BT speaker, sound was horrible, like an old cassette player. The speaker only supports the SBC codec, I think.
I was able to fix the sound quality by enabling developer options and switching to AVRCP 1.6 and MAP 1.4 there.
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
the problem is just with the freebuds 4i, but I don't understand why..
LeClair said:
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
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