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Hey guys, I've rooted, installed CWM Recovery, Unlocked Bootloader, and installed CyanogenMod on another phone before.
The thing is, I've had this phone for about 6 months and wanted to do the same. However, after browsing through the forums, man are there a lot of scary sh*t going down. I would like the request the procedure to install CyanogenMod safely, without losing any Keys/IMEI/XReality/DRMkeys/Etcetera.
I dont know if the method given by FXP is supposed to be this straight forward, but I too like others, do not want to risk losing important stuff if it can be avoided (Keys/IMEI/XReality/DRMkeys/Etcetera).
HOWTO
Install instructions:
first time
- power off the phone:
- hold vol+ and plug usb to boot into fastboot (blu led)
- fastboot flash boot boot.img (from cm10 zip)
- fastboot reboot
- enter recovery, on boot led will be violet for 3'', during this period press vol+
- flash rom zip
- flash gapps zip
- wipe
- reboot
for update just flash rom zip from recovery
Google Apps are not included in this ROM. You'll need to find those yourself if you want them.
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Frankly speaking, the forums is pretty much jumbled up, and the existing [Guide] Threads are either incomplete (Lacking important steps), or Unclear (Non-Specific steps).
Perhaps someone could do me a favour by using the template that I have below to help me, and possibly others, to install CM 10.2 on our beast of a phone.
Template:
1. Backup TA and DRMkeys and stuff: http://forum-xda-developers-com/backup
2. Root: http://forum-xda-developers-com/root
3. Recovery : http://forum-xda-developers-com/recovery
4: Unlock Bootloader: http://forum-xda-developers-com/ulbl
5: Install FXP's CM 10.2 :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461286
Something like that would suffice I think, as long as no important steps are missing that would cause me to lose stuff unique to my phone, that cannot be recovered if I didn't back it up.
P.S. My version is 14.1.B.2.257
P.P.S. Thank you in advance.
1. Root
2. Backup TA (VERY IMPORTANT)
3. Install Recovery and unlock the bootloader, or the other way around. Both ways work.
4. Install ROM by following the "guide" that you quoted above.
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I'm on 14.1.B.2.257, I believe reverting to the previous version causes data to be lost unless you back it up right. *Sighs* How troublesome.
Xenogenics said:
I'm on 14.1.B.2.257, I believe reverting to the previous version causes data to be lost unless you back it up right. *Sighs* How troublesome.
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you will have to back up the data anyways. I think unlocking the bootloader does a factory reset, as well one is needed going from stock to CM if i unforget correctly
I am also wondering about this. I'm currently running firmware .257.
I understand that I need to back up the TA partition first (though I'm not exactly sure on what I will loose if I don't). I also understand that to do this I need to root the stock rom. I understand that in order to root, I'll need to first downgrade to an earlier firmware using flashtool. However, after that I'm not so sure what I need to do. As far as I can see, the only method of gaining root currently is to use vRoot, which is currently under investigation for IMEI mining.
How else can I root the device? I was thinking of maybe using the recovery for locked bootloaders here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
Following by flashing SuperSU from recovery as per usual.
Will this work, keeping the TA partition intact so that I can back it up before flashing CM? Assuming so, would I even need to downgrade from the .257 firmware at all?
Thanks,
i have CWM now so can flash custom roms like i did on other phones right?
what does unlocking the bootloader give me? unless i'm wrong and i have to unlock to flash?
all i've done so far is do a backup is all. (did a TA backup a while back though)
stiggy2012 said:
I am also wondering about this. I'm currently running firmware .257.
I understand that I need to back up the TA partition first (though I'm not exactly sure on what I will loose if I don't). I also understand that to do this I need to root the stock rom. I understand that in order to root, I'll need to first downgrade to an earlier firmware using flashtool. However, after that I'm not so sure what I need to do. As far as I can see, the only method of gaining root currently is to use vRoot, which is currently under investigation for IMEI mining.
How else can I root the device? I was thinking of maybe using the recovery for locked bootloaders here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
Following by flashing SuperSU from recovery as per usual.
Will this work, keeping the TA partition intact so that I can back it up before flashing CM? Assuming so, would I even need to downgrade from the .257 firmware at all?
Thanks,
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OK, so looking into this further, you already need to have root to be able to flash the "CWM for locked bootloader" rocovery. So as far as I can see, the only way to get root in order to back up the TA partition is to give your IMEI to the Chinese via vRoot?
Thank god the stock rom is so good.
tommo123 said:
i have CWM now so can flash custom roms like i did on other phones right?
what does unlocking the bootloader give me? unless i'm wrong and i have to unlock to flash?
all i've done so far is do a backup is all. (did a TA backup a while back though)
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You have to unlock the bootloader to flash custom ROMs. You can flash stock ROMs without unlocking it, but you have to unlock it if you want CM, PAC, PA etc.
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really, so what would happen if i tried to flash an aosp rom now? would the system partition essentially be read only?
sorry for the Qs but haven't had a locked bootloader since the htc desire (although the s-off for that one was to remap the partitions to allow more room for data) and the reasons for unlocking don't seem to be the same.
tommo123 said:
really, so what would happen if i tried to flash an aosp rom now? would the system partition essentially be read only?
sorry for the Qs but haven't had a locked bootloader since the htc desire (although the s-off for that one was to remap the partitions to allow more room for data) and the reasons for unlocking don't seem to be the same.
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Nothing will happen if you try it now. You can easily unlock the bootloader by going to Sony's Dev site, request your key and use Flashtool to unlock it. It takes a couple of minutes once you have Flashtool and the drivers installed. It's also perfectly safe to unlock it and you will lose your warranty. BUT you can easily relock it again if something happens to your ZU and the warrenty will be back.
Remember to backup your TA before you unlock your bootloader. It contains a lot if device info and your unique DRM keys. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe the system partition, but you will still have root, photos, music etc. (But do a backup of those just in case).
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i think that's where i got confused with drivers - unlocking.
i have already done a backup of my TA part so that side of it is ok. i'll leave unlocking until there's a rom i want to try. possibly a complete 4.4 or something.
cheers LM
tommo123 said:
i think that's where i got confused with drivers - unlocking.
i have already done a backup of my TA part so that side of it is ok. i'll leave unlocking until there's a rom i want to try. possibly a complete 4.4 or something.
cheers LM
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If you've already backed up your TA, it means that you have the drivers installed, so job done All you have to do is to install Flashtool and get your key from Sony (which you will get on your email straight away). Either way, just ask here if/when you want to unlock it so we can guide you through it (it's very easy though).
ran flashtool but gave me driver errors - missing. unable to install the drivers included (i guess due to windows 8 driver signing)
ok so please be gentle here, coming back here after 7 years, from old Windows Mobile days!
I am a newbie to Android and want to root my Z5 compact. The only reason I want to root it is to enable some apps like Greenify and GSam battery monitor to work with all their features enabled. I do not want to flash a new ROM. I am happy with Sony's stock ROM.
Is it possible to get root access without installing / flashing a new ROM?
I have searched the internet but people talk about flashing every time I read about rooting. Then I also saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/development/root-automatic-repack-stock-kernel-dm-t3301605
Lots of geeky stuff there which is fine, but again, it seems to talk about flashing the ROM, which I really do not want to do or do not see the need (yet).
Unlock boot loader:
I see that Sony lets me unlock the boot loader from their dev site. I am willing to unlock the boot loader. (Not sure if I want to do that first. Maybe unlocking BL is all I need?)
rajdude said:
ok so please be gentle here, coming back here after 7 years, from old Windows Mobile days!
I am a newbie to Android and want to root my Z5 compact. The only reason I want to root it is to enable some apps like Greenify and GSam battery monitor to work with all their features enabled. I do not want to flash a new ROM. I am happy with Sony's stock ROM.
Is it possible to get root access without installing / flashing a new ROM?
I have searched the internet but people talk about flashing every time I read about rooting. Then I also saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/development/root-automatic-repack-stock-kernel-dm-t3301605
Lots of geeky stuff there which is fine, but again, it seems to talk about flashing the ROM, which I really do not want to do or do not see the need (yet).
Unlock boot loader:
I see that Sony lets me unlock the boot loader from their dev site. I am willing to unlock the boot loader. (Not sure if I want to do that first. Maybe unlocking BL is all I need?)
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The only reason to use that guide is to backup ta keys for whatever reason you'd want to do that.
If you're after root on stock ROM the single easiest way is to unlock bootloader, flash twrp 3.0.2, flash xpower 3.0, and that's it. Solid marshmallow with root goodies. Xpower has everything and is deodexed and ready for xposed framework.
just a little more clarification please?
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.....easiest way is to unlock bootloader, flash twrp 3.0.2, flash xpower 3.0, and that's it. ......
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Ok thanks.....that sounds straight forward.....but isn't TWRP a ROM? (sorry, the moment I hear flashing...I think ROM)
And I am looking up xpower...not sure what that is (yet) and why do I need it
I do want xposed framework though.
I wish there was a simple straightforward answer
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Ok thanks.....that sounds straight forward.....but isn't TWRP a ROM? (sorry, the moment I hear flashing...I think ROM)
And I am looking up xpower...not sure what that is (yet) and why do I need it
I do want xposed framework though.
I wish there was a simple straightforward answer
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Twrp is your recovery,you flash through fastboot, xpower 3.0 is the ROM, just a pre-modded stock ROM with options of xperia x addons. Use lite and stock kernel for xpower and you'll be set.
still a little confused
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Twrp is your recovery,you flash through fastboot, xpower 3.0 is the ROM, just a pre-modded stock ROM with options of xperia x addons. Use lite and stock kernel for xpower and you'll be set.
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Ok thanks! So my understanding (so far) is :
We "must" flash a ROM in order to root a phone. Did I get that correct?
Since I said I like the stock Sony ROM, you recommended the xpower 3.0 ROM.........but the point is.....I still have to flash ROM.
A little confused here...
I am a systems engineer (my day job). In Linux or Windows OS, if we want root access (to run some software or a low level command, like partitioning a disk etc), we either run SU command and put root's password OR right click and run as administrator......
We never have to install a brand new Operating System to get root access.
Just a total newbie question.....Why do we have do install a whole new OS (flash new ROM) on our Android phones to get root access?
rajdude said:
Ok thanks! So my understanding (so far) is :
We "must" flash a ROM in order to root a phone. Did I get that correct?
Since I said I like the stock Sony ROM, you recommended the xpower 3.0 ROM.........but the point is.....I still have to flash ROM.
A little confused here...
I am a systems engineer (my d Linux or Windows OS, if we want root access (to run some software or a low level command, like partitioning a disk etc), we either run SU command and put root's password OR right click and run as administrator......
We never have to install a brand new Operating System to get root access.
Just a total newbie question.....Why do we have do install a whole new OS (flash new ROM) on our Android phones to get root access?
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Android is Linux, to gain root in the ROM you have on your phone currently all you need is an unlocked bootloader to run SU, but then you'll be left with a phone that still needs a customized kernel to keep root and a DRM fix for the camera. Xpower 3.0 is that package.
You could really benefit from reading more. Google up on dm-verity and Sony Ric, and fastboot/adb for a little better understanding of what you're getting into without a pre compiled ROM. Messing around with any Android you'll have the majority of the same steps, unlock bootloader with fastboot, flash Supersu, customized kernel.. Etc
Why use a stable compiled ROM?
Let me list down and explain to you why it's best to use a stable compiled ROM. But first you need to understand these few things before you decide to unlock your bootloader and root.
Before Sony Z models kicked in, every rooted Sony device are still able to retain all the features that came together with the phone before it was rooted. When Sony introduce the first Z model, they start to create these things called DRM keys. DRM keys are unique algorithm (i guess i should put it that way) which is attached to every phone the same way an IMEI number is attached to every phone. In short, my DRM keys cannot be used on your phone and vice versa.
DRM key: It's a unique algorithm that holds all the unique features that an unrooted Sony phone boast such as camera quality, X-reality, High Res Audio etc etc.
The moment you unlock your bootloader, that's the moment your DRM keys will be lost. But don't panic, the wonderful devs on XDA have prepared a tool to backup your TA partition (a partition that contains your DRM key) for your own convenience if you want to relock your bootloader.
Then recently Sony/Android come up with new features called Sony RIC and dm-verity. (You may Google what these are all about but to my understanding it is placing limitations to people who root their phones to meddle around with the system settings of thier phone)
With all these "hurdles", it have taken some time for devs here to find a work around and like every fairytale ending, they manage to find a way.
Now you're wondering if you can actually root without flashing another rom. Good news for you: you can! There's a guide that will teach you how to actually root and apply the work around after unlocking your bootloader and rooting.
.. But ask yourself what's the point of going through the hassle of rooting and your phone is not tweaked for performance or for theming purposes?
That's when people flash roms and in Z5 compact's case, XPower is the best rom there is. It gives you all the performance tweak you need to make your phone lag free, it has a lite version that removes all the unnecessary system apps you can't delete without root, it gives you an option to add themes and framework from Xperia X with all those work around in place.
For your second question: why is there a need to install TWRP?
TWRP is a recovery tool which is a need for all rooted phone. It's also a tool for you to backup and restore your current rom so that you can rollback to the last working configuration if your phone went into a bootloop etc. Plus i believe all these guides require you to actually use TWRP to flash the SuperSU to successfully root your phone.
I hope this explains your doubts.
Thanks a lot but...
firdyRAY, thanks a lot for the comprehensive reply to my questions. And yes, it has shed a LOT of light on my doubts.
I googled Sony RIC and dm-verity:
I could not get find much on ric
Dm-verity seems to me a way to check if the boot image has been modified from the last boot, and if it has, stop from booting. Sounds like a good idea until we understand that to flash a ROM dm-verity needs to be bypassed/turned off.
So to compile what I have understood so far:
By unlocking bootloader, you lose DRM keys. There is a way to backup DRM keys which are in the TA partition, but this is to be done BEFORE you unlock bootloader. Good that I have not done anything to my X5c yet.
The next steps for me would be to look into XPower 3 ROM…which I did and here is what I found out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/development/rom-xpower-v1-0-aroma-debloat-custom-t3371100
First, what's up with the scary looking warning in RED right at the top of the first thread. I did read the OP and the second post, I did not see anything in there which IF I missed will cause my phone to explode! That is probably posted to make noobs read all instructions, right?
Second, I do not see any step in there to backup the DRM / TA partition. I guess the dev is assuming the phone already has lost the DRM, right? So I gotta find instructions on how to backup DRM / TA
Then I searched for problems in this ROM and seems to me that the fingerprint sensor is reported by many to be not working and/or buggy. I rely on the fingerprint sensor day and night. I have many apps which rely on that, like lastpass. That would be a major deal breaker for me.
So going back to stock ROM option…I remember you said "There's a guide that will teach you how to actually root and apply the work around after unlocking your bootloader and rooting."
Could you please post a link to that?
Thanks again!
I think this is a pretty great thread rajdude. It's getting people to spell out a lot of information to noobs like us that it seems most posters have taken for granted over time.
I'm a complete novice at all of this. Sort of gleaning information as I go along, but I used this guide: http://twigstechtips.blogspot.hk/2016/04/sony-z5-compact-root-without-losing-ta.html?m=0
Along with this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/guide-rooting-unlocking-bootloader-t3354307
The first guide is pretty basic step-by-step instructions. It unfortunately occasionally kind of skips over a couple very small things (that will be clear as you go along), or occasionally words things in such a way that might not be completely intuitive, but maybe that's cause I need things explained to me like I'm five sometimes. Any time I might have had a question about something in the the first guide, I went to the other and found the answer. It didn't take me long to get the gist of the whole thing though, and overall, it wasn't as scary as I thought it was going to be. It'd be fantastic if someone created a video walkthrough, but so far as I know, no one has done that yet.
The guide will help you back up your TA Partition where your DRM keys are stored, unlock your bootloader, root your device, and then restore your DRM keys. In order to do this you need to downgrade to Lollipop (if you're not already on it), and then upgrade back up to Marshmallow. It will also install TWRP (which I had no clue was installed until I went into "recovery mode" by pressing UP when I saw the LED flash yellow during boot). There may be an easier way to go about this whole process, but this is the process I used.
Before jumping into anything, I'd hold off until you heard more from firdyRAY or someone more experienced. They may look at the guide I linked and be horrified.
And yeah, I haven't installed xpower yet for the same reasons you haven't. Sounds like there's even an xpower 4.0 that was released recently, but still seems kinda buggy. Being rooted with stock I've been able to give Greenify access to root. Install Adaway (which was worth getting root to begin with). Install sound/music mods like DiVA-X, Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos. Install Titanium Backup. And make a few other minor tweaks (that I've since reversed). I still don't know much about custom ROMs and all that jazz, so I'm holding off until I get more understanding. I'd love to install the xpower ROM (when the bugs are worked out), and maybe some sort of sound ROM. I also need to get more understanding on some of the other vernacular like what exactly a "dirty flash" is.
rajdude said:
firdyRAY, thanks a lot for the comprehensive reply to my questions. And yes, it has shed a LOT of light on my doubts.
I googled Sony RIC and dm-verity:
I could not get find much on ric
Dm-verity seems to me a way to check if the boot image has been modified from the last boot, and if it has, stop from booting. Sounds like a good idea until we understand that to flash a ROM dm-verity needs to be bypassed/turned off.
So to compile what I have understood so far:
By unlocking bootloader, you lose DRM keys. There is a way to backup DRM keys which are in the TA partition, but this is to be done BEFORE you unlock bootloader. Good that I have not done anything to my X5c yet.
The next steps for me would be to look into XPower 3 ROM…which I did and here is what I found out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/development/rom-xpower-v1-0-aroma-debloat-custom-t3371100
First, what's up with the scary looking warning in RED right at the top of the first thread. I did read the OP and the second post, I did not see anything in there which IF I missed will cause my phone to explode! That is probably posted to make noobs read all instructions, right?
Second, I do not see any step in there to backup the DRM / TA partition. I guess the dev is assuming the phone already has lost the DRM, right? So I gotta find instructions on how to backup DRM / TA
Then I searched for problems in this ROM and seems to me that the fingerprint sensor is reported by many to be not working and/or buggy. I rely on the fingerprint sensor day and night. I have many apps which rely on that, like lastpass. That would be a major deal breaker for me.
So going back to stock ROM option…I remember you said "There's a guide that will teach you how to actually root and apply the work around after unlocking your bootloader and rooting."
Could you please post a link to that?
Thanks again!
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sony ric is a layer of security for sony roms so that they can protect nfc and fingerprint stuff. samsung and htc have there own variants as well.
yes lol the big red lettering is there to make you read, although hes not far off on the melting your phone part, the s810 is ridiculously hot.
the xpower thread doesnt not include the drm backup instructions because: 1) you need bootloader unlocked to flash it. and 2) because it includes the drm fix in it so you dont have to backup your ta keys.
the fingerprint sensor bug is on any bootloader unlocked phone, the hardware fails after x amount of hours and requires a reboot to work again. xpower is a stock rom, the only thing different is its pre-rooted, de-bloated, and deodexed for xposed to work. we have a separate thread for the fingerprint sensor bug and its been solved.
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firdyRAY, thanks a lot for the comprehensive reply to my questions. And yes, it has shed a LOT of light on my doubts.
I googled Sony RIC and dm-verity:
I could not get find much on ric
Dm-verity seems to me a way to check if the boot image has been modified from the last boot, and if it has, stop from booting. Sounds like a good idea until we understand that to flash a ROM dm-verity needs to be bypassed/turned off.
So to compile what I have understood so far:
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Sony RIC main function is to disable /system write even you got root permission(you still able to do /system write but after a reboot will restore to original). There is a workaround but very trouble, TWRP recovery file manager can bypass Sony RIC(it works in the old day for me, not sure about now). BTW, all 3rd kernel should be disabled RIC nowadays. For any regular computer, there is no hardware or software lock to prevent you gain root access in linux but there are many such trouble stuffs in the android world... lol
I'm running XPower 3.0 Full as a daily driver since June and been very happy. Battery life, stability and speed is good.
Please note, that you MAY lose your warranty when you lose your DRM keys. That's why I didn't unlocked my phone before there was a way to backup TA partition. Now I'm after warranty repair, and before it I was able to fully restore stock ROM with DRM and all features fully functional. In my country, there is only one Sony approved repair center and they check DRM keys before repairing anything - even if it's mechanical fault.
When I had Z1c in KitKat days, it didn't had dm-verity and Sony RIC. It was possible to gain permanent root with bootloader locked, so I was happily using stock ROM and kernel. In Z5c case, first thing I tried was to do the same and it was possible (just backup TA, unlock bootloader, and flash TWRP with patched kernel (dm-verity and Sony RIC disabled) to begin with), but going XPower way was much more confident - I didn't had to think about removing every bloat app. I just flashed lite version in June and I'm using it till this day without any problems at all
Another thing is that you lose OTA (Over-The-Air Update) functionality when you unlock bootloader and disable Sony RIC and dm-verity. Updating to newer versions of firmware, even on stock ROM is problematic when you modify it.
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Another thing is that you lose OTA (Over-The-Air Update) functionality when you unlock bootloader and disable Sony RIC and dm-verity. Updating to newer versions of firmware, even on stock ROM is problematic when you modify it.
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It's simply not possible. If you are rooted you can't apply OTA updates and neither should you.
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It's simply not possible. If you are rooted you can't apply OTA updates and neither should you.
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That's just what I wrote - just put it in another words
Hi All,
I am looking for a tutorial that explains how to root the cellphone build under 32.2.a.0.305 running with Marshmallow. I haven't found any topic that state someone succeeded to root this one. Any chance someone can give me some guidance. On some other website it is mentionned that we cannot root it for the moment. So I was thinking maybe downgrade it and go back to Lollipop? But even for that I need some guidance.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.
francisci said:
Hi All,
I am looking for a tutorial that explains how to root the cellphone build under 32.2.a.0.305 running with Marshmallow. I haven't found any topic that state someone succeeded to root this one. Any chance someone can give me some guidance. On some other website it is mentionned that we cannot root it for the moment. So I was thinking maybe downgrade it and go back to Lollipop? But even for that I need some guidance.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.
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Theres a perfectly detailed guide in general section , you should downgrade to lolipop so you can use the temp root tool to back up drm keys before unlocking the bootloader , but if you dont care about drm keys , you can in fact just skip to the boorloader unlock part and root. Its so simple , but i would suggest going through the whole proccess and back up your drm keys cuz once lost , forever lost so ... Yah
madshark2009 said:
Theres a perfectly detailed guide in general section , you should downgrade to lolipop so you can use the temp root tool to back up drm keys before unlocking the bootloader , but if you dont care about drm keys , you can in fact just skip to the boorloader unlock part and root. Its so simple , but i would suggest going through the whole proccess and back up your drm keys cuz once lost , forever lost so ... Yah
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Hi Madshark
Thanks for your prompt reply. Appreciate it.
I'm at rookie level in terms or rooting smartphone, so I don't know even the basics. Can you send me the link of the "detailed guide" and also explain me what does the "drm keys" stand for?
francisci said:
Hi Madshark
Thanks for your prompt reply. Appreciate it.
I'm at rookie level in terms or rooting smartphone, so I don't know even the basics. Can you send me the link of the "detailed guide" and also explain me what does the "drm keys" stand for?
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this is the link to the post that I used and followed its instructions to root my phone personally.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/how-to-backup-restore-ta-partition-root-t3479532
if you lose DRM keys (and that happens when unlocking the bootloader) then some functions in the device will stop working like Bravia engine, Track ID, etc and on our z5 compact some say even stock camera stops from working, and when you lose those keys you can NEVER get them back because each device has its OWN TA partition that includes its OWN DRM keys and no other device has the same so thats why each and every one who owns an Xperia device must perform this TA backup in case they ever wanted to get back to stock (unroot and relock bootloader) they can restore these keys and functions to factory functionality. if you dont back them up and unlocked the boot loader then you will never get some functions to get back to working properly if you ever wanted to get back to stock and relock your boot loader!
However; there is some thing that is called DRM fix in certain roms that when you install these roms, you will not feel like you lost your functions because they already include a fix that behaves like the DRM keys.
still, losing your DRM keys will cause your device to lose its warranty and if you didnt back them up then you will never get it back even if you relocked your bootloader. so I personally backed them up because my device has a 2 year warranty and I dont want to waste them if any thing goes wrong I would restore them and send it to get fixed.
yet the only problem is warranty to me so if you have no warranty or dont care about it you can skip the back up process but yet again I dont like taking chances so just back them up its a 2 minute thing.
and I say again, all stock based roms in this Z5 compact forum have drm fix...
and to give you my personal opinion I dont like the Xperia z5 compact rooted because as I saw, there is so little roms and so little kernel variations and all the stable roms are based on stock MM firmware and CM roms arent fully stable yet , (they are but they have bugs that I hate having) and I only rooted so i can increase the volume of my phone speakers and headset and increase the strength of the torch but it all turns out to be that all sound mods have bugs and torch mod only work properly on any thing but STOCK ftf but any thing besides stock ftf isnt fully stable so I dont see any point in rooting this device I so regret buying it I should have checked how little the modifications are that can be made on it I owned Z2 and HTC devices in the past and boy! if I wanted to try different things every day for the past 2 years I wouldnt have finished by now there is sooo much to test and so much to try and to customize ...
the only rom that can be customized and can be enjoyed as much that we have is Kryptonian - the rom of awesomeness!
I hope I was helpful
madshark2009 said:
this is the link to the post that I used and followed its instructions to root my phone personally.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/how-to-backup-restore-ta-partition-root-t3479532
if you lose DRM keys (and that happens when unlocking the bootloader) then some functions in the device will stop working like Bravia engine, Track ID, etc and on our z5 compact some say even stock camera stops from working, and when you lose those keys you can NEVER get them back because each device has its OWN TA partition that includes its OWN DRM keys and no other device has the same so thats why each and every one who owns an Xperia device must perform this TA backup in case they ever wanted to get back to stock (unroot and relock bootloader) they can restore these keys and functions to factory functionality. if you dont back them up and unlocked the boot loader then you will never get some functions to get back to working properly if you ever wanted to get back to stock and relock your boot loader!
However; there is some thing that is called DRM fix in certain roms that when you install these roms, you will not feel like you lost your functions because they already include a fix that behaves like the DRM keys.
still, losing your DRM keys will cause your device to lose its warranty and if you didnt back them up then you will never get it back even if you relocked your bootloader. so I personally backed them up because my device has a 2 year warranty and I dont want to waste them if any thing goes wrong I would restore them and send it to get fixed.
yet the only problem is warranty to me so if you have no warranty or dont care about it you can skip the back up process but yet again I dont like taking chances so just back them up its a 2 minute thing.
and I say again, all stock based roms in this Z5 compact forum have drm fix...
and to give you my personal opinion I dont like the Xperia z5 compact rooted because as I saw, there is so little roms and so little kernel variations and all the stable roms are based on stock MM firmware and CM roms arent fully stable yet , (they are but they have bugs that I hate having) and I only rooted so i can increase the volume of my phone speakers and headset and increase the strength of the torch but it all turns out to be that all sound mods have bugs and torch mod only work properly on any thing but STOCK ftf but any thing besides stock ftf isnt fully stable so I dont see any point in rooting this device I so regret buying it I should have checked how little the modifications are that can be made on it I owned Z2 and HTC devices in the past and boy! if I wanted to try different things every day for the past 2 years I wouldnt have finished by now there is sooo much to test and so much to try and to customize ...
the only rom that can be customized and can be enjoyed as much that we have is Kryptonian - the rom of awesomeness!
I hope I was helpful
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Very helpful ! Thanks v much - I'll let you know if I succeed!
Ok, 2 more things.
Probably the most important: warranty has nothing to do with DRM keys, unlocked bootloader or what more. Sony is not/never gonna repair smartphones when there're problems caused by custom ROM or kernel, they're not gonna fix a bootloop caused by a bad flashing procedure and so on. But it's not true that you're automatically losing warranty by unlocking bootloader or getting root access.
Next to that, you don't have to go through that process of backing up your own TA, if you don't want. It's much easier to root and flash a kernel with DRM keys patched. Procedure to root is really simple. Flash new rom, unlock bootloader, fastboot to flash compatible twrp , flash supersu, flash modded kernel, done. There're already quite some tutorials to guide you through this proces.
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Ok, 2 more things.
Probably the most important: warranty has nothing to do with DRM keys, unlocked bootloader or what more. Sony is not/never gonna repair smartphones when there're problems caused by custom ROM or kernel, they're not gonna fix a bootloop caused by a bad flashing procedure and so on. But it's not true that you're automatically losing warranty by unlocking bootloader or getting root access.
Next to that, you don't have to go through that process of backing up your own TA, if you don't want. It's much easier to root and flash a kernel with DRM keys patched. Procedure to root is really simple. Flash new rom, unlock bootloader, fastboot to flash compatible twrp , flash supersu, flash modded kernel, done. There're already quite some tutorials to guide you through this proces.
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Yah well if the bootloader is unlocked and the system has modification on it , they have every right to refuse fixing it for you because its hard to prove that what bricked the device isnt some modification that you made... Unless they have a really good heart , i had a z2 before and it was rooted but the ftf on it was custom but was on it for like 7 months and all the mods were working properly untill all of the sudden it wont turn on so they told me that what i.did caused it but i didnt do anything wrong i know they lying but can u prove it!? No..
Hi guys,
How do I flash the boot.img using cmd and fastboot ?
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Hi guys,
How do I flash the boot.img using cmd and fastboot ?
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first you gotta download ADB folder
you can find it here if im not wrong : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
then place the adb folder in C:\
I think it automatically place it there when installing so no need to do that if so
2. go to cmd (start - type in CMD) and once it launches direct it to where the adb folder is "cd c:\adb" without the quotes of course
3. to flash boot type in "fastboot flash boot boot.img" without quotes and one space step between words only.
4. to flash recovert just type is "fastboot flash recovery "recovery name".img wihtout the quotes and copy recovery name exactly the way it is.
that it
keep in mind that any time you want to flash any thing , that thing must be inside the adb folder for example ,boot.img file must be there in the adb folder with all the other files when installing adb, and also recovery and every other thing you want to flash using fastboot.
hope this is helpful.
Hi madshark, thanks again for your help. I have been able to flash the boot img and then rename twrp into recovery and flash it as well.
Now I'm stuck the device cannot reboot so I cannot transfert the SuperSU files in to the device...
And when I type adb devices in cmd, it do not mention the device ! Seems that I'm facing an issue.
francisci said:
Hi madshark, thanks again for your help. I have been able to flash the boot img and then rename twrp into recovery and flash it as well.
Now I'm stuck the device cannot reboot so I cannot transfert the SuperSU files in to the device...
And when I type adb devices in cmd, it do not mention the device ! Seems that I'm facing an issue.
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well youre new, mistakes like these happen Ive been there, sorry for the late reply XDA isnt giving me notification
any way, make sure after backup TA (which is on lolipop firmware) you gotta get back to original .305 firmware (MM) the process of you getting back to lolipop in the first place is so you can use Ivoyroot tool for temporary root so you can backup your TA partition, once that is done you must get back to .305 because you are flashing a kernel (boot.img) that is for build .305 I guess the guide guy didnt mention this?
second when I said copy recovery name as it is I meant what recovery name you have for example
fastboot flash recovery twrp-3.0.2-0-E5823-20160417.img
thats my recovery name the one that I downloaded, yours might say some thing else its OK I meant copy YOUR recovery name to CMD the way it is exactly in the ADB folder
and now your stuck, if your bootloader is already unlocked, just flash .305 firmware with flashtool the same way you flashed the lolipop firmware, once that is done, do the first boot settings and once device is launched into the software , just flash boot again
make sure you follow instructions to the POINT, so you gotta turn of your phone, press the volume up button keep it pressed while connecting your phone to the PC and flash boot and recovery and thats it
and after youre done with this process , then you turn on your phone connect it to your PC and place the superSU zip file in it and then go to recovery and flash it
adb isnt recognizing your device?
thats weird if you just connect your device nothing will happen, so you turn off your phone and press the volume up button and connect it, (thats how you enter fastboot mode) and if still doesnt recognize then do what I told you to do already and see what happens next
keep me updated and if its urgent just send me a PM because I dont see notification otherwise...
Thanks Madshark for your help, it has finally worked!
My Xperia X has the oreo update (latest) and now my notification sounds only work when the phone is plugged in. Among other bull**** I'm sick of with Oreo, and the lack of fingerprint reader, I've decided to go with lineage OS. However, I'm trying to backup my TA partition first, and I can't seem to flash the MM ROM on my phone.
I've downloaded and installed the Fastboot drivers, Flashtool, and Xperifirm. I've downloaded the "Internal - Commercial and Journalist 34.0.A.1.264/R2A" files from xperifirm, opened flash tool and created an FTF bundle from that.
However, when I put the xperia X in flashmode and begin flashing, it won't flash. It ends with the error, "For flashtool, unknown sources and debugging must be checked in phone settings."
And those settings are, indeed, checked. So what am I missing here?
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I finally got MM downgraded. There's so many conflicting guides and videos out there the misinformation needs to be set straight.
I *HAD* to use the Flashtool that comes with xperifirm. After you open and use the flashtool with xperifim and it downloads the files, there's additional scripts that get run. This does not happen with the 3rd party flashtool.
Now I need some assistance gettin root. I can't seem to find any articles that allow me to root without unlocking my bootloader, which as I understand it will wipe the DRM keys I'm trying to backup.
First thing, don't ask this type of doubts in this section. This section is for roms and kernels. We have Q & A section specifically for these kind of queries. Now coming to your point, there's no way you can root your mobile without unlocking the bootloader.
Here is one guide you might want to read : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...122-android-n-34-2-2-47-t3594502/post71989987
hhjadeja007 said:
First thing, don't ask this type of doubts in this section. This section is for roms and kernels. We have Q & A section specifically for these kind of queries. Now coming to your point, there's no way you can root your mobile without unlocking the bootloader.
Here is one guide you might want to read : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...122-android-n-34-2-2-47-t3594502/post71989987
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Oh snap, thanks! I apologize. I thought I was in the Q&A section. I had so many tabs open from so many guides I was following.
I would recommend Omnirom for this device. It is officially supported and you get OTA updates every Sunday. Oshmoun is doing a great job to keep the device up. There are no official Lineage builds for Suzu.
You can also spend 50€ and give SailfishOS a try, which is a great alternative to Android. This is also officially supported, although you will also lose your warranty, because you have to unlock your bootloader.
But I think, all of them are better than that bloated stock firmware.
I use Omnirom with Microg, rooted with Magisk and F-droid as app store. No Google apps. And I am happy with this.
But I am watching the development of SailfishOS and flash it from time to time. There are still some features missing, that are a must for me. But the development is going on.
Hello! I can't seem to make TWRP Official app (from Google Playstore) and Magisk root to work.... so hacking game is still a distant possibility here. I downloaded both app, but couldn't get them to work, so now uninstalled both.
My phone is: Moto G7-Power with Android 9 (Pie), my questions are:
1. Which of these two should I install first on android without PC? Magisk or TWRP? Seem to get conflicting instruction from those tutorials on Youtube.
2. After downloaded "TWRP Official app" from Google Playstore, chose my phone from the list and downloaded the version for my phone. It said downloaded successful, but I can't flash TWRP, can't open it in recovery mode (hardreset), it wouldn't do anything!
3. As for Magisk apk... one of the two files won't install, the zip files.... it said "failed"... so what do I do then?
Can anyone please help me fix all these problems? Very frustrating right now.
Morky001 said:
Hello! I can't seem to make TWRP Official app (from Google Playstore) and Magisk root to work.... so hacking game is still a distant possibility here. I downloaded both app, but couldn't get them to work, so now uninstalled both.
My phone is: Moto G7-Power with Android 9 (Pie), my questions are:
1. Which of these two should I install first on android without PC? Magisk or TWRP? Seem to get conflicting instruction from those tutorials on Youtube.
2. After downloaded "TWRP Official app" from Google Playstore, chose my phone from the list and downloaded the version for my phone. It said downloaded successful, but I can't flash TWRP, can't open it in recovery mode (hardreset), it wouldn't do anything!
3. As for Magisk apk... one of the two files won't install, the zip files.... it said "failed"... so what do I do then?
Can anyone please help me fix all these problems? Very frustrating right now.
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Hello, Morky.
I am afraid I don't understand what you really mean by your question above. You have not used a PC yet but tried to flash TWRP. Please give me more insight on what you are trying to do.
x.ak**** said:
Hello, Morky.
I am afraid I don't understand what you really mean by your question above. You have not used a PC yet but tried to flash TWRP. Please give me more insight on what you are trying to do.
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Thank you, Kumar for your response. First of, I'm NOT a techie like you. I just followed these tutorials on YouTube....
With TWRP app this is what happened (or not happened):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtvI2C9VrOY
Started having problem at the 3:00 min mark here as well... even with hardreset
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEHChHcpZEI
I couldn't do what this guy did at the 3:00 min mark....
With Magisk Manager app.... what happened was just like at the 3:00 min mark on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvlLy42UtGg
I thought explaining what'd happened by referencing what I was doing per these tutorials would better answer your questions, since I don't know how else to say it, again not a techie person.
<Morky>
You have to unlock your bootloader first. It requires that you read out a encrypted code from the phone, via the USB port using ADB/Fastboot. The code is entered into a web page at Motorola, and if your phone can be unlocked, they will send you a unlock code. Then you fastboot the unlock code. then fastboot twrp. then flash magisk.
you may consider going to the forum page for your phone, it will have all the details.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-power
look under the guides section
hope that helps
Nivead said:
You have to unlock your bootloader first. It requires that you read out a encrypted code from the phone, via the USB port using ADB/Fastboot. The code is entered into a web page at Motorola, and if your phone can be unlocked, they will send you a unlock code. Then you fastboot the unlock code. then fastboot twrp. then flash magisk.
you may consider going to the forum page for your phone, it will have all the details.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-power
look under the guides section
hope that helps
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Nivead, I did unlocked the OEM before downloading that though, but still didn't work. The phone is an unlocked phone.
And, thank you for your help.
Morky001 said:
Kumar, I did unlocked the OEM before downloading that though, but still didn't work.
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And.. thank you.
Morky001 said:
Thank you, Kumar for your response. First of, I'm NOT a techie like you. I just followed these tutorials on YouTube....
With TWRP app this is what happened (or not happened):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtvI2C9VrOY
Started having problem at the 3:00 min mark here as well... even with hardreset
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEHChHcpZEI
I couldn't do what this guy did at the 3:00 min mark....
With Magisk Manager app.... what happened was just like at the 3:00 min mark on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvlLy42UtGg
I thought explaining what'd happened by referencing what I was doing per these tutorials would better answer your questions, since I don't know how else to say it, again not a techie person.
<Morky>
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Hello, Morky.
I do not understand how one can flash any image directly from the device without rooting it. Now, in order to root your device you will need either TWRP or flash SUPERSU or Magisk using fastboot. If you wish to root your device and install TWRP on it, you will require access to a computer.
The phone has to be BOOTLOADER unlocked in order to install TWRP and Magisk. Turning on OEM unlock, is a step in unlocking the phone - but it does not unlock the bootloader.
When you are saying the phone is unlocked, I believe you mean the phone is unlocked so it will run on any cell phone carrier - a way the phone is sold. But its not bootloader unlocked.
Bootloader unlocked is different - Most phones are sold with the bootloader locked and because of that, you cannot modify the operating system. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to modify the the android operating system.
You will have to install Motorola USB drivers on your computer. Go to the Motorola page at: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a and read about unlocking the bootloader. You will have to create a Motorola account to get an unlock code, if the bootloader can be unlocked. The pages will also have a link to obtain the Motorola USB drivers (MotorolaDeviceManager_2.5.4.exe).
You will need to install Minimal ADB Fastboot, a terminal program that allows you to push data/commands back and forth between the computer and your phone via the USB port. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 You will use the FASTBOOT command to obtain the encrypted unlock code from the phone. You will also use FASTBOOT to install the unlock code that Motorola will send you,
After the bootloader is unlocked, you will use FASTBOOT to install TWRP into your phones recovery partition. TWRP info at https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-install-twrp/ TWRP is a backup and recovery program that is used to install programs, etc,
After you install TWRP, you can install MAGISK, which will ROOT the phone. Magisk info at https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk.
Please go to the forum I told you about and under the guides section you will find documentation that explains how to root the phone and install custom ROMs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-power A guide will give you the finer details for your phone model.
Before you do any of the above, I advise you strongly to have a backup. Using FASTBOOT there is a command called "getvar all", it will return a long printout of info and it will include a readout of the original firmware installed on the phone. You will want to know this in case you brick the phone. Having this info will allow you to obtain the original firmware and be able to restore it via FASTBOOT. Firmwares at https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ .l After installing TWRP, you should backup the phone to your SD card and then move the backup to your computer for future needs.
Good luck.
Nivead said:
The phone has to be BOOTLOADER unlocked in order to install TWRP and Magisk. Turning on OEM unlock, is a step in unlocking the phone - but it does not unlock the bootloader.
When you are saying the phone is unlocked, I believe you mean the phone is unlocked so it will run on any cell phone carrier - a way the phone is sold. But its not bootloader unlocked.
Bootloader unlocked is different - Most phones are sold with the bootloader locked and because of that, you cannot modify the operating system. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to modify the the android operating system.
You will have to install Motorola USB drivers on your computer. Go to the Motorola page at: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a and read about unlocking the bootloader. You will have to create a Motorola account to get an unlock code, if the bootloader can be unlocked. The pages will also have a link to obtain the Motorola USB drivers (MotorolaDeviceManager_2.5.4.exe).
You will need to install Minimal ADB Fastboot, a terminal program that allows you to push data/commands back and forth between the computer and your phone via the USB port. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 You will use the FASTBOOT command to obtain the encrypted unlock code from the phone. You will also use FASTBOOT to install the unlock code that Motorola will send you,
After the bootloader is unlocked, you will use FASTBOOT to install TWRP into your phones recovery partition. TWRP info at https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-install-twrp/ TWRP is a backup and recovery program that is used to install programs, etc,
After you install TWRP, you can install MAGISK, which will ROOT the phone. Magisk info at https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk.
Please go to the forum I told you about and under the guides section you will find documentation that explains how to root the phone and install custom ROMs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-power A guide will give you the finer details for your phone model.
Before you do any of the above, I advise you strongly to have a backup. Using FASTBOOT there is a command called "getvar all", it will return a long printout of info and it will include a readout of the original firmware installed on the phone. You will want to know this in case you brick the phone. Having this info will allow you to obtain the original firmware and be able to restore it via FASTBOOT. Firmwares at https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ .l After installing TWRP, you should backup the phone to your SD card and then move the backup to your computer for future needs.
Good luck.
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Deae Nivead,
..Oy! That sounds painful!! Guess, I have no business be doing this lock/unlock/rooting thing, huh?! Not a techie at all, this is very foreign to me! And those guys on YouTube... they lied then, said I could do all these without PC... Yeah, right! Turned out, it wasn't as easy as they were showing on videos. (((sigh))) Would be easier if I just send my phone to you?!?!!!
Thank yoooouuu soooo much for taking the time to write/tell me all this, truly appreciate your help and replies.
<Morky>
x.ak**** said:
Hello, Morky.
I do not understand how one can flash any image directly from the device without rooting it. Now, in order to root your device you will need either TWRP or flash SUPERSU or Magisk using fastboot. If you wish to root your device and install TWRP on it, you will require access to a computer.
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Kumar,
I guess those YouTube tutorials omitted left out a lot of steps and not as easy nor simple as they made it to be.... "without PC" as they claimed. How would someone with no background in computer programing, nor a "techie" like you here at xda... like me would know that?! If you "don't understand how....." I wouldn't understand either!! More so than you. One thing I've learnt now, all those tutorials about rooting and TWRP. on YouTube... are crap.