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Why has Google ignored nexus 9, I bought this tablet so that it would be first to get updates but it's the opposite? Why Google why?
Chill out! Its not even been a week since announcement!!!
Google has identified another memory leak in 5.1, maybe they fix it before the rollout.
simmac said:
Google has identified another memory leak in 5.1...
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Ugh, are you serious! That makes it 4 releases in a row they've given us faulty software (5.0,5.01,5.02,5.1). Are they even trying?
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Yeah, it's only a small problem compared to 5.0.1, but it still exists... :/
enriquejones666 said:
Ugh, are you serious! That makes it 4 releases in a row they've given us faulty software (5.0,5.01,5.02,5.1). Are they even trying?
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Why don't you try to code
JCUK89 said:
Chill out! Its not even been a week since announcement!!!
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Considering this is the first device that shipped with 5.0 and two+ year old devices are getting major updates first... Yeah people should be pissed
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Considering this is the first device that shipped with 5.0 and two+ year old devices are getting major updates first... Yeah people should be pissed
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64-bit must be giving the developers trouble compared to the other Nexus devices, or maybe there's something else about the K1.
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Yes, I want to know myself. Google suposed to be giving nexus devices upgrades for 2 years and the nexus 9 is still a new device and no update to version 5.1 yet. Stock images is still 5.0.1 version. I tryied updating to the pure AOSP 5.1 from the dev section from this forum but it had errors so bad it was unusable.
We already know that 5.1 still has memory leaks. At this point, I would prefer to wait another couple weeks and have them release 5.1.1
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well.. it has been almost 1 month since 5.1 images released... And still nothing.. the funny thing is that they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1 and yet they released 3 versions of 5.1 for nexus 6, and 2 versions for nexus 5. All versions with the memory leak. The most funny thing will be nexus 9 to receive 5.1 with 1 month delay and not 5.1.1 with the memory leak fix... :laugh:
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well.. it has been almost 1 month since 5.1 images released... And still nothing.. the funny thing is that they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1 and yet they released 3 versions of 5.1 for nexus 6, and 2 versions for nexus 5. All versions with the memory leak. The most funny thing will be nexus 9 to receive 5.1 with 1 month delay and not 5.1.1 with the memory leak fix... :laugh:
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The Nexus 9 doesn't seem to be a priority for Google. Even the Nexus 7 2013/2012 have received 5.1 despite being much older than the N9, they should at least give a release window for the 9 even if they are unable to provide immediate updates. Although, I think the user base for the Nexus 9 might be small, so perhaps Google doesn't think it's necessary to cater to N9 users at this time.
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The Nexus 9 doesn't seem to be a priority for Google. Even the Nexus 7 2013/2012 have received 5.1 despite being much older than the N9, they should at least give a release window for the 9 even if they are unable to provide immediate updates. Although, I think the user base for the Nexus 9 might be small, so perhaps Google doesn't think it's necessary to cater to N9 users at this time.
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I believe this too, due to the extremely low "nexus market share" this device has. Anyway, eventually it will be released.. Let's hope that it will be a final version. There will always be bugs, this is how software development works.
The SoC is a catastrophic choice. No other devices use it, I think, and development will be less than nothing from Nvidia.
Ace42 said:
The Nexus 9 doesn't seem to be a priority for Google. Even the Nexus 7 2013/2012 have received 5.1 despite being much older than the N9, they should at least give a release window for the 9 even if they are unable to provide immediate updates. Although, I think the user base for the Nexus 9 might be small, so perhaps Google doesn't think it's necessary to cater to N9 users at this time.
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Umm, my Nexus 7 (2013 variant) still hasn't got 5.1 either....
petkyrk said:
well.. it has been almost 1 month since 5.1 images released... And still nothing.. the funny thing is that they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1 and yet they released 3 versions of 5.1 for nexus 6, and 2 versions for nexus 5. All versions with the memory leak. The most funny thing will be nexus 9 to receive 5.1 with 1 month delay and not 5.1.1 with the memory leak fix... :laugh:
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Reports of "memory leak" from morons who don't even know what a memory leak *is* are meaningless. Your assumption that "they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1" is without merit.
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Reports of "memory leak" from morons who don't even know what a memory leak *is* are meaningless. Your assumption that "they realized that there is a memory leak in 5.1" is without merit.
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I ve had memory leak on my nexus 6 with its latest 5.1 version 3. I ve seen it with my eyes. Also the same problem on my girlfriend's nexus 5. And trust me, I know that I am looking at
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I ve had memory leak on my nexus 6 with its latest 5.1 version 3. I ve seen it with my eyes. Also the same problem on my girlfriend's nexus 5. And trust me, I know that I am looking at
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lol. So does "everybody" who doesn't understand Android memory management.
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lol. So does "everybody" who doesn't understand Android memory management.
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Right, u know better... There is memory leak , its there. Whether u like it or not. The only thing that u have been doing is being acting like a smartas* , next time try to explain if u will.
petkyrk said:
Right, u know better... There is memory leak , its there. Whether u like it or not. The only thing that u have been doing is being acting like a smartas* , next time try to explain if u will.
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Whatever pal. Believe whatever you like.
But the fact that neither you nor anyone else has actually *demonstrated* a memory leak really says a lot about how well (or rather poorly) you understand.
In fact, first thing I would do is challenge you to explain (without looking it up) what a memory leak *ACTUALLY IS*, as well as *prove* that there is one in play.
Verizon Z2 getting system update.
It's a fifty-something megabyte security update. :crying::crying:
Lol, I thought the same thing, good to have e the security update tho! ..... In February ?
What's bad about receiving a security update?
Well, a few things are disappointing about receiving a December security update in February.
December patch does not include protection for the Spectre vulverability.
Android Oreo has been available to OEMs for 6 months now and the Z2 Play - Motorola's second in line phone - is still waiting to receive an update.
... My watch just got updated to Oreo today. Did you hear that Lenovo? My watch! :silly:
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Well, a few things are disappointing about receiving a December security update in February.
December patch does not include protection for the Spectre vulverability.
Android Oreo has been available to OEMs for 6 months now and the Z2 Play - Motorola's second in line phone - is still waiting to receive an update.
... My watch just got updated to Oreo today. Did you hear that Lenovo? My watch! :silly:
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Your watch runs Android Wear, not Android. There is a huge difference in the code required to be modified, doubly so because Android Wear watches are all essentially running one of two processors, have the same RAM and ROM, and have similar screens.
Phones have more options, between screen types and resolutions, RAM and ROM sizes (and types and manufacturers), CPUs and modems, and there is significant difference in software.
The fact it's February and December is just being released (even my unlocked Z2 play just received December security patch) is disappointing, but Oreo is being actively worked on and a speak test was already released. Six months isn't terrible for a major OS update, though in reality it's closer to a year and change (very early code is sent to manufacturers with P being out last September).
If producing cell phones were easy you'd be doing it yourself and the hundreds of crowd sourced companies would have been able to do it.
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December patch does not include protection for the Spectre vulverability.
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The arm A53 of the snapdragon 626 used into the moto z2 play is not affected by either of the two bugs and the related patches are useless!
Source: https://developer.arm.com/support/security-update: "Only affected cores are listed,*all other Arm cores are NOT affected." The arm A53 is not listed.
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Your watch runs Android Wear, not Android. There is a huge difference in the code required to be modified, doubly so because Android Wear watches are all essentially running one of two processors, have the same RAM and ROM, and have similar screens.
Phones have more options, between screen types and resolutions, RAM and ROM sizes (and types and manufacturers), CPUs and modems, and there is significant difference in software.
The fact it's February and December is just being released (even my unlocked Z2 play just received December security patch) is disappointing, but Oreo is being actively worked on and a speak test was already released. Six months isn't terrible for a major OS update, though in reality it's closer to a year and change (very early code is sent to manufacturers with P being out last September).
If producing cell phones were easy you'd be doing it yourself and the hundreds of crowd sourced companies would have been able to do it.
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While some of what you say about watches is true (similar processors and other hardware) they definitely run Android at their base. The version of android that Wear devices run may be pared down, but it is still Android. Android Wear is an app, effectively a skin/launcher for Android.
Saying they don't run Android is like saying my Nexus Player doesn't run Android because the Leanback Launcher looks different from the launcher on your phone.
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While some of what you say about watches is true (similar processors and other hardware) they definitely run Android at their base. The version of android that Wear devices run may be pared down, but it is still Android. Android Wear is an app, effectively a skin/launcher for Android.
Saying they don't run Android is like saying my Nexus Player doesn't run Android because the Leanback Launcher looks different from the launcher on your phone.
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It would be closer to saying Android != FireOS except fireOS and Android are closer the Android and Android Wear.
A lot of code is removed in Android Wear vs Android (~950MB for pixel update, 350MB for Watch Sport).
The core is based on the same code, but it's not the same thing.
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Caldair said:
Well, a few things are disappointing about receiving a December security update in February.
December patch does not include protection for the Spectre vulverability.
Android Oreo has been available to OEMs for 6 months now and the Z2 Play - Motorola's second in line phone - is still waiting to receive an update.
... My watch just got updated to Oreo today. Did you hear that Lenovo? My watch! :silly:
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So, sell it on swappa and get something that you'd be more satisfied with.
Slow updates from Motorola is no secret.
Hey XDA! I just wanted to ask if the s3 will get android P? Oreo will be ready in summer for it. Samsung release 2 major android version for their tablets.
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Hey XDA! I just wanted to ask if the s3 will get android P? Oreo will be ready in summer for it. Samsung release 2 major android version for their tablets.
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The Tab S got Lollipop and Marshmallow, the Tab Pro didn't get a single update and got stuck on Kitkat.
In short: I don't think anybody has the answer to your question.
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Hey XDA! I just wanted to ask if the s3 will get android P? Oreo will be ready in summer for it. Samsung release 2 major android version for their tablets.
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See the guides, news, and discussion sub forum. Seems it's coming.
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Well, considering that we are still waiting for Oreo, if the S3 does get Android P, it would likely only arrive around mid 2019.
Would you be happy to wait that long? I wouldn't.
Having had my S3 since June 2017, I will most likely have moved on to another tablet by that time. (due to battery and performance issues that are likely to crop up as the tablet ages)
I'm keeping an eye on the tablet market as it seems likely that we will see a high-end Chrome tablet sometime in 2018, which in my opinion would likely be a better alternative to an Android P tablet.
I dont think so...
Google is ditching support for tablets from android P and up so if we get a update most likely we will get a Chrome OS update or a very very slim chance of Tizen but most likly samsung will just leave it as it is. Sometimes i wish samsung did not use Android anymore it is causing then sooooo many problems
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Google is ditching support for tablets from android P and up so if we get a update most likely we will get a Chrome OS update or a very very slim chance of Tizen but most likly samsung will just leave it as it is. Sometimes i wish samsung did not use Android anymore it is causing then sooooo many problems
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Google is ditching its tablets not support for tablets.
Incorrect info.
No reason why Samsung won't continue to produce tablets and update the software for them as long as there is profit in the market. Probably even more so now Google have dropped its own tablets
Google only provide the base source code of each OS, it's up to the OEM's to tailor it to their needs.
Also just to note, historically higher end Samsung devices get 2 major updates.
Seeing as this device was released with Nougat, it's quite likely to receive one more update to Andoid P after receiving Oreo.
Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
Treasarion said:
Hey,
i asked myself a question. I was informed a few days ago from Oneplus Community Forum, that Oneplus rolls out the Updates in a 3 Month Circle. Dont know that before, just thinked this phone get fast Updates like my old Samsung Note 9 wich is, by the way, on January 2020 Security Patch. Oneplus is on November 2019.
So 2 Questions.
Im right, that OxygenOS is very near to Stock/Vanilla Android with just e few optimations etc ? So nothing overloaded like OneUi from Sammy ?
And is it rihgt, that the OP7TPro is a fully Project Treble supportet Phone ?
If these 2 Things are right, im very courious why they have such a bad Update politic. I mean not general Updates..my 7t Pro runs so far so good without any Bugs or else. I mean the Google Security Updates wich fill critical Security issues, along with the Google OS itself. Oh and i heard in the Communityforum, that Oneplus does this Job better back in the Days with OP6 Series for example. Is that right ?
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Yes almost stock
No idea on the 2nd question
And there not the best for updates seems to be every 6 weeks or so
OnePlus are... Weird.
They run by this every 2 month update policy but here's the thing.
Lest take this as an example. It's end of January now, and February patch is a week or two away at tops, but they still release an update with January patch, instead of waiting that week or two and be fully in line with security patches.
OnePlus is probably closest to stock Except pixel phone. But I feel they are slowly drifting away form it, in my opinion, the implementation of OxygenOS is really poor.
And yes, this phone is 100% treble supported. (Which one would think would make updates fasters, but I guess not).
Could someone explain to me why the security updates are so important for some? What do they change for everyday user? (I'm asking seriously now, no hard feelings).
The only thing that needs fixing/updating asap for me is Horizon light, and this should be done much sooner. Apart from this everything is working fine, so I rather hesitate to update to not break something else, unless security update fixes the bugs, makes it more functional, faster or more battery friendly
Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
December OTA is stopped due to connecting network issues
2WildFirE said:
December OTA is stopped due to connecting network issues
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Do you have a source for this please? Thanks.
HtcDesire2 said:
Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
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Google is not struggling with the P6. It is the same thing every year with a new OS and new devices.
Curious to why you want Android 12L, it is geared towards Android tablets.
vandyman said:
Google is not struggling with the P6. It is the same thing every year with a new OS and new devices.
Curious to why you want Android 12L, it is geared towards Android tablets.
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I think they do, Pixel 6 Dec patch was released 1 week after old devices (Which has not yet reached to mass - Source: https://9to5google.com/2021/12/20/does-your-pixel-6-have-the-december-2021-update-yet-poll/ ).
Android 12L beta 1 was released 2 days after the Dec patch for older devices, on Dec 8. And todays is 22nd Dec (more than a week after "so called" Dec patch release) but no sign of any 12L beta.
No comms or news about 12L beta as well, from google, for Pixel 6 series (apart from "Coming Soon" tag).
Regarding your curiosity: I bought pixel 6 just for regular updates and early access to newer version.
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Do you have a source for this please? Thanks.
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I have downloaded the december release over OTA after searching for updates. Then rolled back to november because of the problems with calls and now the december release is not offered any loger (if i search for updates).
I even think they have stopped it.
If the beta isn't today, I doubt we'll get it. Maybe we have to wait until beta 2.
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If the beta isn't today, I doubt we'll get it. Maybe we have to wait until beta 2.
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No sign so far.. and most frustrating part is no official communication at all.
Another beta released and yet nothing for pixel 6 series.
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Another beta released and yet nothing for pixel 6 series.
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google have messed up big time with the pixel 6 / 6 pro
last time i ever buy a google phone
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google have messed up big time with the pixel 6 / 6 pro
last time i ever buy a google phone
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I personally don't consider it as a mess up. Been getting Google phones since the Nexus 6 with the exception of the Pixel 4. I would only guess that there is going to be a few bumps in the road with something like 6 being that it is a whole new "phone" in sorts if you would call it that. Consider a new type of chip (not been tested much if at all), new fingerprint scanner (For Google its new and it SUCKS), a little larger phone AND I think a large portion of it is consider supply and demand with supplies with building a phone. Google has always aimed for the NEXT best thing, a sort of pioneer. I had the Pixel 5 and it was great for about 6 months then nothing but problems for me. My wife loves her 5 and doesn't like the 6. Although she can handle the little things that drive me nuts with the 5 and she can't stand the trade off for the 6, being larger and the finger print scanner that is limited to 5 unlocks a day before charging (due to the time it takes to get the hamster run fast enough on his wheel). This is just my 2 cents worth and not even worth that most of the time.
If you know of another phone manufacturer, that offers monthly updates (95%) of the time for a min of 2 years, Is vanilla android, and gets new Android versions 1st not to mention unlockable bootloaders for those who have to tinker, don't be greedy! I am sure there is a few of us that would consider trying another phone line up just to try if nothing else. Darn that is another nickels worth . OK I shut up now..
I will be happy to try beta 12L for my android tv devices. Most Android tv boxes are using out dated software.
But for the P6 it is a no for me. I just do not see any benefits for the P6.
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Seems Google is struggling with pixel 6 series.
First the critical Dec release was delayed/not yet reached to many ppl.
Secondly, no sign of 12L beta on pixel 6.
All is not well with 6 series.
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me neither, friend inside says the ongoing issues shouldn't have any impact or be any reason for 12L's delay for us! idk
Good news today
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Good news today
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You installed it?
Following
ATM not, maybe at this weekend.
Please write here if anyone install it. I have no WiFi for a third day, so I am thinking if installing 12L. Just want to be sure it's OK for a daily use. Main topics - how's WIFI, how's camera, how's battery life compare to regular 12 build. Thanks in advance!
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Please write here if anyone install it. I have no WiFi for a third day, so I am thinking if installing 12L. Just want to be sure it's OK for a daily use. Main topics - how's WIFI, how's camera, how's battery life compare to regular 12 build. Thanks in advance!
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I dont have those issues , if i had any i would allready installed it.
Maybe google is paying so much attention developping 12l that they forget to release stable android 12 updates...
I have already installed Android 12L. So fat Wi-Fi is working fine. Will give feedback after few days how's everything else.