Wide colour support - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

Hello,
I've tested the screen with the Display Tester app and it comes with the result that the S9+ screen does not support wide colour gamut.
On Display Mate screen review, they specifically said it does. And I would expect that from a 2018 flagship which is supposed to have the best smartphone display...
Anyone else getting this result from Display Tester? Is this a classic Samsung screw up with firmware or an actual hardware defect?

th.android said:
Hello,
I've tested the screen with the Display Tester app and it comes with the result that the S9+ screen does not support wide colour gamut.
On Display Mate screen review, they specifically said it does. And I would expect that from a 2018 flagship which is supposed to have the best smartphone display...
Anyone else getting this result from Display Tester? Is this a classic Samsung screw up with firmware or an actual hardware defect?
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I noticed some odd behavior as well. Various P3 color gamut test images fail when viewed inside Chrome and the Samsung Internet browsers. BUT, if you actually download the image and then view it in Gallery or something, the image is displayed correctly. So the screen seems to be P3 but the software is not written correctly to display the full gamut in most apps. Hopefully somebody else has a better idea what the deal is and posts back here.
On a side-note, I find the colors on the S9 to be dull and muted. I much prefer the vibrancy of the S8 even if they are less accurate. Played with the display settings but there seems to be no way to activate the full color vibrancy the S8 had on the S9. Oh well.
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Another thing I noticed which is much more serious is video playback.
Dark scenes have black crush and loose a lot of detail.
For example, trailers on YouTube like Black Panther are practically unwatchable. Especially if you're in a dim lit room.
I've mentioned this in another thread...
I'll try to upload later a side by side comparison with my Galaxy S8 for reference.
I pray it's an actual defect with my display because I heard some rumours that it's an Oreo problem. And if that's the case we might wait forever for an update.

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I think those pictures show the problem.
Top photo is GS9+, bottom GS8.
The colours on S9+ are muted but on top of this the loss of detail in the dark areas of the scene is very apparent.
The photos have been taken in my living room which has dimmed lighting.
If I watch the video on bright light the problem is less pronounced but it's still there.

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I think those pictures show the problem.
Top photo is GS9+, bottom GS8.
The colours on S9+ are muted but on top of this the loss of detail in the dark areas of the scene is very apparent.
The photos have been taken in my living room which has dimmed lighting.
If I watch the video on bright light the problem is less pronounced but it's still there.
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Exact same issue here. Pretty sure it won't be fixed anytime soon. If you want more vibrant colours you could just enable video enhancer.

th.android said:
Another thing I noticed which is much more serious is video playback.
Dark scenes have black crush and loose a lot of detail.
For example, trailers on YouTube like Black Panther are practically unwatchable. Especially if you're in a dim lit room.
I've mentioned this in another thread...
I'll try to upload later a side by side comparison with my Galaxy S8 for reference.
I pray it's an actual defect with my display because I heard some rumours that it's an Oreo problem. And if that's the case we might wait forever for an update.
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The YouTube has a communication problem with the S9. Expect an update.

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Screen color temps between units

Here's a side-by-side of two ATT GS2s on auto brightness showing the same application. The one on the left has a bluish/greenish tinge to the display, while the one on the right looks...I dunno...pinkish? Almost dirty by comparison, at least to my eyes, as it's much harder to read in low light settings. I thought at first it was the Helvetica vs stock font, but it's clearly the panel's lighting characteristics.
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Here are the same phones again running the 'dead pixel test' from the Market, set to max brightness on the white screen color test.
The one on the right doesn't seem to be able to produce a true white.
Now, I get that there are different screen suppliers, and manufacturing variances among panel batches, but this whole thing has me a little disappointed at Samsung's QC. I would love to know what qualifies as a successful screen test, because the one on the right is a huge disappointment to my eyes. Just for the hell of it I compared both screens to my old Captivate, and to my surprise that had the most accurate color reproduction of the three.
How bout you guys - true whites on your screen? (try the gmail app, for example) Maybe I just got a bad batch?
The screen on my SGS2 has no colot tinge whatsoever. It's white and bright. I did however notice a bluish tint on my Infuse; which drove me crazy. I actually exchanged 3 Infuses because of a flaw in market where I got the "unable to download, insufficient memory on device". Each Infuse had a different tint, or brightness to the display. I switched to thw SGS2 and haven't looked back since.
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Wow... big difference.... what the hell...
I thought this too about my SGSII when comparing it side-by-side with store units... Turned out for me the brightness was the same but another setting (adjust screen to save battery or something like that) was checked on my phone, making the screen look like crap on some colors, including making white look gray and yellow look bluish. Once I uchecked that box the display looked fine.
yeah I am anal about colors too. Being a photographer.
So I was looking for ways to improve the displays on my SGS2(now returned).
I have a Gretag i1-Pro spectrophotometer that I use for calibration and also matching color swatches. So I 'calibrated' my screen to the best of the available software. There is a program call 'Screen Adjuster' you guys can use to alter the RGB values. However gama will be off, and you can only calibrate EITHER high bias RGB or low bias RGB. There is no way to calibrate both.
Have you tried Supercurio screen tune? He just started making it but can probably help you out with colors and such.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313652
QC and screen temperature were both big issues with the ISGS2 when it launched. There's a 100 page thread that's been talking about it since May. Five ISGS2's side-by-side all had from slight to wild differences in color temperature. Some of the ROMs also alter color temperature which makes it even more confusing. Cool/blue is what's intended to be normal and warm/yellow is the exception. The phone on the right in the pic looks like it has a warmer screen. I'd guess they changed either the screen or manufacturing process for the ASGS2 or you guys would have been freaking out by now.
P.S. - Samsung manufactures all their own displays and they all come from the same factories. So if there are differences it's QC or allowable deviation.

Lumia 800 Photography

Thought people might be interested in knowing I've started a Flickr group for the Lumia 800.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/
Would love to see what others have been able to capture with the nifty little camera on our phones
I just joined the group... will try to upload photos taken by my lumia 800...
Anyone has red tint on photo taken using Lumia 800?
Mine has it when the ambient light is not strong...
i have tinted photos as well. the auto color balance is horrible. all pictures are sepia-ish
like that, i will join you too
Thanks!!
Just joined group but haven't posted yet. I've had my Lumia a whopping 48 hours at this point and haven't had a chance to really wring out the camera yet.
Hope to rectify that this weekend.
Don't see what all the complaints are about. Has more settings than my HD7 did - and all the additions are useful (I love the exposure setting). Shutter response is identical to any smartphone camera I've had before.
As far as photo color - maybe I'm jaded, but I don't think ANY smartphone camera is all that great. The HD7 surprised me because being mediocre in almost all other respects, the camera was pretty good. To me, these cameras will never replace a decent 35mm; they're a step above a Kodak Instamatic or typical 35mm disposable in my opinion. I think it's pretty much mandatory with phone cameras to have something like PicturesLab or Thumba to tart up the pictures a bit and have them looking decent.
Cheers,
Maybe after altering a few settings like white balance, you can make it behave well. But out of the box at default settings the Lumia800 is not surprisingly good.
just a reminder of 4 years ago where the Nokia N95 could deliver images comparable to a reasonably good point and shoot camera
My first real photo on the Lumia.. no editing..
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I did a test in ambient light this evening.
I have the following preliminary conclusions:
A. Picture quality seems okay looking at the results on the phone itself
B. Contrast and saturation settings together are so agressive that you need these set to default in order to get a decent picture
C. Yes, the red burn on photos is clearly there.
D. Auto white balance is a disaster as well as the manual settings. These are way too agressive too. If these would be applied at fifty percent would be much better.
picture of apollo15rover shows the agressive auto settings. Very high contrast as shades are very dark, the grass seems too dark green, and the bright is overburnt. that it is done by the camera settings..I recognize this too in my own photos taken with the lumia.
htc12345 said:
I did a test in ambient light this evening.
I have the following preliminary conclusions:
A. Picture quality seems okay looking at the results on the phone itself
B. Contrast and saturation settings together are so agressive that you need these set to default in order to get a decent picture
C. Yes, the red burn on photos is clearly there.
D. Auto white balance is a disaster as well as the manual settings. These are way too agressive too. If these would be applied at fifty percent would be much better.
picture of apollo15rover shows the agressive auto settings. Very high contrast as shades are very dark, the grass seems too dark green, and the bright is overburnt. that it is done by the camera settings..I recognize this too in my own photos taken with the lumia.
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I agree with all.. but still pretty happy the way this turned out.. Clarity and detail aren't lacking. I took with Macro focus (had not discovered macro scene yet)
I did try to take a couple with one notch up on saturation and it might as well have been solarized!
On a positive note I found something that has not been on any smartphone I have had in the past: Macro Scene PLUS Macro Focus - so I can now take low depth of field shots!
Here's another unedited photo..
All settings normal/auto except I lowered Contrast and Saturation 1 notch to "Low" each.. To me it's a bit washed out, but more easy to correct in photo program than trying to go the other way..
htc12345 said:
I did a test in ambient light this evening.
I have the following preliminary conclusions:
C. Yes, the red burn on photos is clearly there.
D .
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Recently tried to shoot some lighter color subjects and now also noticing the red burn in the middle.. Anyone discover the trick of getting rid of it?
Edit.. Must be in the white balance. Doesn't appear on outdoor photos. Also, I re-shot the interior photo with the burn using flash, and the burn was completely eliminated. Not too happy being a fan of natural light photography..
USA is a beautiful country
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USA is a beautiful country
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Why, cause we're not covered in ice right now?
You have an interesting shape of the surface
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My first real photo on the Lumia.. no editing..
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For a phone that's out of this world. For a point and shoot its perfect.
A small test-image i took with the default settings (apart from the mode [set to macro] and the flash [i had to disable it]). The focus should be on the third black key.

[Q] Black Fragmentation color on display - is it just mine?

So I am seeing some color issues with my SII
Not sure if it's just the way it is (because I am coming from the LG G2x which had the most amazing display you can ever imagine), or is it just my phone.
The funny thing is that even though I am attaching a screnshot, obviously YOU will not be able to see the issue (since of course, the pic itself is fine, and it is the display that makes it wavey...)
I am not even sure I am explaining myself the right way.
Wavy colorts, uneaven, almost cartoonish-like, smeary.
It is most apparent with darker shades
(U can't see it here)
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Samsung's Super AMOLED Plus displays exaggerate colors and shades, and that is it's key feature. Not sure about your phone, but if you think something's wrong with your phone, go check with your service provider.
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Samsung's Super AMOLED Plus displays exaggerate colors and shades, and that is it's key feature. Not sure about your phone, but if you think something's wrong with your phone, go check with your service provider.
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Thank you!!!
Found some info here, i wonder if mine is one of these....
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-screen-problems-trouble-in-paradise
I hope more members will have something to say, perhaps they have experienced this as well.
I was also thinking whether this can (hopefully) be a kernel issue or color calibration issue? I know that some kernels has effect on the colors, but I am out of my field here and completely wrong
The weird thing is that light colors are perfect. When GRAY or BLACK, it just looks bad.
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The weird thing is that light colors are perfect. When GRAY or BLACK, it just looks bad.
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I've got something similar to that.
It's not noticeable in a well lit environment but if I'm in a dark room and have a black screen on my sgs2, some blotches seem darker than the rest of the screen.
I wouldn't be too bothered about this if it was just one or two but there's one large one and a bunch of smaller ones scattered around the screen.
Thanks!
I wish I could upload a photo to show it, but (funny enough), my only camera is my phone's camera (a single student - what r u gonna do?!)
This is especially noticeable when I take a picture or when I use the Music app (pictured above), where there is huge smears of color going from the dark to the lighter.
I hate to even imagine it, but I think I will have to depart from my SII if this is something that isn't fixable. If no one else experience this, I will get a new SII
(i don't know anyone that has the SII so I have no one to compare it to)
Managed to take some pics
Hope U can see it:
Look at the bottom discoloration:
All menus with shades of grey and black present this issue (kernel problem maybe?)
NOTICE POWER WIDGET!!!!

S9 screen with red or pink tint?

Does anyone else see reddish or pink on their screen? I see it when I tilt the screen. I noticed it a few days ago on my S9+ and now can't unsee it. Straight on it looks OK but at an angle the screen looks pink, like when scrolling through GMail or web page when my phone is on a table at an angle to me. Not sure if I should exchange and risk getting other issues. Otherwise my device has been fine. I went to the AT&T store near me to compare their display models and mine shows some pink compared to the store.
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Mine show slight blue tint when tilted
The left one has a slight green tint. No AMOLED is going to be 100% perfect. Actually I think you have one of the better panels. It looks brighter and the white looks thicker compared to the display model.
Based on the number of screwy AMOLED panels I've seen, that one would probably be OK to me. My panel is yellower along the top quarter and I also consider that a keeper you can do so much worse in my opinion. In ten years they may finally nail the technology till then it's lottery.
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Mine also turns a little pink if angled... i can't remember if my previous S8 also did so...
Mine turns ever so slightly blue when tilted. It's MUCH better then my Note 8 was, which turned pink at even the slightest angle.
Try factory reset, when I got mine and turned it on I saw from the boot animation that the display was white. When it finished booting it looked like it was stuck with the blue filter on. I factory reset and the display has been normal since
This can be adjusted, at least this is what I did on my S8. Go to settings, Display, Screen mode and fine tune it there.
So my wife and I each have a US T-Mobile model. Her's definitely has the pink screen issue. Duplicating the settings between the phones and the issue persists. I will be contacting T-Mobile for an exchange.
FYI - wound up not being a hardware issue for our phones. I found out that the native Android Night Light setting transfers between phones. Was able to delete,and use Samsung blue light filter settings, using Nova and the instructions here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS9/comments/85blz5/psa_night_light_and_blue_light_filter_overlap/
anyone else experiencing this on their s9+? when i tilt my device, right before the blue shift, i can se a pink/reddish hue go across the display. do you have the same thing? should i be worried? it's kind of annoying, every slight tilt and i can notice it.
I think now that I checked it seems like mine also has a very slight pink touch on it... But i dont really care and I haven't really ever noticed it.
I use black everywhere possible. Dark theme, dark wallpaper, KIWI browser with AMOLED dark turned on, so this way I save my battery, i save my screen, and black is way better on the eye

Question MIUI 12.5 Update: Screen looks worse

Hello, I am a Mi 11 Lite 5G user (bought in Spain, from Orange). I have a Tianma Screen and since I updated to MIUI 12.5 (yesterday) the screen looks even worse than before. Instead of dark tones I see big green pixels using my device in dark mode or watching series and movies during night. I have this issue in all color modes (including P3).
I just wanted to open this thread to report it and to know if there more users with this problem. I know at least 3 more users with this problem here in Spain
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Another example watching movies:
The smartphone on the top is the Mi 11 Lite 5G, on the middle Poco F3 and on the bottom Oneplus 8
Green tint issues are among OLED screen for a long time, here as reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/green-tint-on-screen.4262217/
Maybe Tianma has it even worse. Magnitude may be different between devices and screen.
If it's obvious, can try refund or replacement. Check your country Xiaomi warranty policy though. Sometimes after submitting replacement, even if you didn't get your replaced device, you will not be able to make refund.
@polfmarti I also have pixel clusters where there should normally be black shades. But I already had this problem with Miui 12. I thought it was a software issue, but maybe it's not? Btw i have Tianma display too....
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@polfmarti I also have pixel clusters where there should normally be black shades. But I already had this problem with Miui 12. I thought it was a software issue, but maybe it's not? Btw i have Tianma display too....
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I also had this issue with Miui 12 but with Miui 12.5 I see it more exaggerated. I don't know if it can be solved
This will be the last Xiaomi for me.... I am really disappointed with this phone
Is the same for me. Tianma screen here too. I have the same issue but I don't know if this started with 12.5 update... I think this problem was here before tbh.
Is not only the green tint issue but also a "pixelation" (square artifacts) on dark scenes. They can be seen in movies, images, or even the UI.
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Is the same for me. Tianma screen here too. I have the same issue but I don't know if this started with 12.5 update... I think this problem was here before tbh.
Is not only the green tint issue but also a "pixelation" (square artifacts) on dark scenes. They can be seen in movies, images, or even the UI.
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It is not pixelation but in line with Black Crush problem that plagued Samsung S9.
I have Tianma panel too and had said black crush problems. But 12.5 seems to have fixed it.
I haven't done a throughout test but LG OLED test on Youtube does not show any symptoms unlike before.
And story continues. WTF Xiaomi, making bad things worse with software? They of course know about the issue and now trying to sort out **** display with software updates. No chance!
I'm in touch with them and answer was kind of "yeah, we know displays are meh" but not straighforward of course. Trying to change mine in UK for device with Huaxing. Will let know if will be succesful.
It's disgraceful to put those displays in Lite version of flaghip phone...!
How i can check the panel type?
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How i can check the panel type?
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Here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4270203/post-85122223
and then here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4270203/post-85145841
Another new thing since the 12.5 update: Blacks are no longer black. They are clearly grey, deep blacks don't exist anymore (except during HDR Youtube videos, which proves that it's a bug again....)
Wtf Xiaomi ?
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Another new thing since the 12.5 update: Blacks are no longer black. They are clearly grey, deep blacks don't exist anymore (except during HDR Youtube videos, which proves that it's a bug again....)
Wtf Xiaomi ?
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I fixed this by changing the color profile to p3, I had the exact same issue before.
Its under display settings and I attached screenshots.
Thanks @vomez, it's working... The more time passes, the more I think I'm going to sell this phone
I have about 2 months with a MI 11 Lite 5G, I do not use it yet as a main phone since I have a MI 9 Lite that works excellent, however when comparing the screens side by side, I notice that the screen of the MI 11 Lite 5g in the Backgrounds or contents with whites look yellowish, look in settings, change the color temperature to cool on all of them and it still shows yellowish white colors. Yesterday I received a MI 11 Lite 5g NE and when comparing them side by side the screen of the Mi 11 Lite 5g NE correctly shows the whites, no yellowish, do any of you have the same problem on your Mi 11 Lite 5G?

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