I've had a Note 2 then 4 since @ 2012-2013. I just bought a used Note 8 and have had it for @ 3 days. I really don't like it very much. I remember feeling like going from the the 2 -> 4 was unnecessary, but don't think I disliked the 4 when I first used it. I'm wondering if I just need to acclimate to it & tweak it to my preferences.
The camera seems awesome, I like the water resistance, I love having more RAM, fingerprint is great, otherwise:
-it feels more difficult to use
-it feels less intuitive opening multi window, using the settings menu, it feels like everything requires an extra 2-3 steps
-it doesn't feel noticeably faster to me in everyday use. Apps seem to take @ the same time to transition open, screen swiping feels about the same. Maybe it's noticeable under heavy use.
-it still takes 1:45 to charge
-the width feels much better in my hand, but I don't like the screen ratio. When using it as GPS in the car, it feels, at best, equal to the Note 4 (I think the 4's width is an advantage). It's really irritating that the top/bottom edges of videos get cut off when fullscreen. The screen color is nice.
-menu/back buttons are a wash. sometimes annoying, sometimes nice.
-i hate the s-pen pop out so far
I use my Note 4 mainly for:
-music + video playback over bluetooth earphones & connected to the car's head unit
-web browsing and/or youtube split screen
-S-Pen gets used almost daily (Note 7 stylus tips are awesome in the 4's pen!)
-GPS, I don't have many GPS problems or complaints about the receiver
-camera
I use the exclusive Note 4 features-
-swapping batteries (OEM + 2 Ankers/wall charger)
-IR transmitter @ 2-3x/week
I like that the Note 8 has-
-Awesome camera
-fingerprint sensor that you don't have to swipe
-more RAM. I haven't put it through the wringer with tons of open apps etc. Honestly I could just focus on shutting stuff down & clearing the phone more often, it's just a convenience.
-I really like pulling out the S-Pen and instantly writing on the lock screen. But pulling out the S-Pen is such a PITA compared to the 4, I think I would hate it for daily use.
-feels better in hand, I don't like the height so far.
-the curved front/back is a positive and negative
-the speaker sounds.. different. louder- i'm not sure if it's 'better'
I'm planning on reselling the 8 after 1-2 weeks. Any tips or suggestions before I do? I think I'll keep using the 4 for another few years. I've seen good reviews of the Pixel XL 2's speediness; but I have a 256gb microSD in my Note 4. I wish I could shave a couple mm's off the 4's bezels & give it some more powerful hardware. Thanks for any advice
Almost all your problems are solved in settings itself. Try to explore.
pfdeadpool said:
I've had a Note 2 then 4 since @ 2012-2013. I just bought a used Note 8 and have had it for @ 3 days. I really don't like it very much. I remember feeling like going from the the 2 -> 4 was unnecessary, but don't think I disliked the 4 when I first used it. I'm wondering if I just need to acclimate to it & tweak it to my preferences.
The camera seems awesome, I like the water resistance, I love having more RAM, fingerprint is great, otherwise:
-it feels more difficult to use
-it feels less intuitive opening multi window, using the settings menu, it feels like everything requires an extra 2-3 steps
-it doesn't feel noticeably faster to me in everyday use. Apps seem to take @ the same time to transition open, screen swiping feels about the same. Maybe it's noticeable under heavy use.
-it still takes 1:45 to charge
-the width feels much better in my hand, but I don't like the screen ratio. When using it as GPS in the car, it feels, at best, equal to the Note 4 (I think the 4's width is an advantage). It's really irritating that the top/bottom edges of videos get cut off when fullscreen. The screen color is nice.
-menu/back buttons are a wash. sometimes annoying, sometimes nice.
-i hate the s-pen pop out so far
I use my Note 4 mainly for:
-music + video playback over bluetooth earphones & connected to the car's head unit
-web browsing and/or youtube split screen
-S-Pen gets used almost daily (Note 7 stylus tips are awesome in the 4's pen!)
-GPS, I don't have many GPS problems or complaints about the receiver
-camera
I use the exclusive Note 4 features-
-swapping batteries (OEM + 2 Ankers/wall charger)
-IR transmitter @ 2-3x/week
I like that the Note 8 has-
-Awesome camera
-fingerprint sensor that you don't have to swipe
-more RAM. I haven't put it through the wringer with tons of open apps etc. Honestly I could just focus on shutting stuff down & clearing the phone more often, it's just a convenience.
-I really like pulling out the S-Pen and instantly writing on the lock screen. But pulling out the S-Pen is such a PITA compared to the 4, I think I would hate it for daily use.
-feels better in hand, I don't like the height so far.
-the curved front/back is a positive and negative
-the speaker sounds.. different. louder- i'm not sure if it's 'better'
I'm planning on reselling the 8 after 1-2 weeks. Any tips or suggestions before I do? I think I'll keep using the 4 for another few years. I've seen good reviews of the Pixel XL 2's speediness; but I have a 256gb microSD in my Note 4. I wish I could shave a couple mm's off the 4's bezels & give it some more powerful hardware. Thanks for any advice
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"I wish I could shave a couple mm's off the 4's bezels & give it some more powerful hardware." How about use the Note 8! And go into the developer menu and speed up the animation! This thing flies!
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA
If you don't like the Note 8 & it's not for you, go ahead & sell it as planned. Everyone is different, no one here should convince you otherwise, they shouldn't have too, no point in asking our opinions, it's your preference. I went from Note 2 to Note 5. I'm not the type to upgrade every single year, not worth it IMO. Note 8 was a nice upgrade from the Note 5. I'm loving the Note 8, my favorite phone to date, but I'm also rooted with custom recovery so I can configure as I please, I can't live with out those features.
pfdeadpool said:
I've had a Note 2 then 4 since @ 2012-2013. I just bought a used Note 8 and have had it for @ 3 days. I really don't like it very much. I remember feeling like going from the the 2 -> 4 was unnecessary, but don't think I disliked the 4 when I first used it. I'm wondering if I just need to acclimate to it & tweak it to my preferences.
The camera seems awesome, I like the water resistance, I love having more RAM, fingerprint is great, otherwise:
-it feels more difficult to use
-it feels less intuitive opening multi window, using the settings menu, it feels like everything requires an extra 2-3 steps
-it doesn't feel noticeably faster to me in everyday use. Apps seem to take @ the same time to transition open, screen swiping feels about the same. Maybe it's noticeable under heavy use.
-it still takes 1:45 to charge
-the width feels much better in my hand, but I don't like the screen ratio. When using it as GPS in the car, it feels, at best, equal to the Note 4 (I think the 4's width is an advantage). It's really irritating that the top/bottom edges of videos get cut off when fullscreen. The screen color is nice.
-menu/back buttons are a wash. sometimes annoying, sometimes nice.
-i hate the s-pen pop out so far
I use my Note 4 mainly for:
-music + video playback over bluetooth earphones & connected to the car's head unit
-web browsing and/or youtube split screen
-S-Pen gets used almost daily (Note 7 stylus tips are awesome in the 4's pen!)
-GPS, I don't have many GPS problems or complaints about the receiver
-camera
I use the exclusive Note 4 features-
-swapping batteries (OEM + 2 Ankers/wall charger)
-IR transmitter @ 2-3x/week
I like that the Note 8 has-
-Awesome camera
-fingerprint sensor that you don't have to swipe
-more RAM. I haven't put it through the wringer with tons of open apps etc. Honestly I could just focus on shutting stuff down & clearing the phone more often, it's just a convenience.
-I really like pulling out the S-Pen and instantly writing on the lock screen. But pulling out the S-Pen is such a PITA compared to the 4, I think I would hate it for daily use.
-feels better in hand, I don't like the height so far.
-the curved front/back is a positive and negative
-the speaker sounds.. different. louder- i'm not sure if it's 'better'
I'm planning on reselling the 8 after 1-2 weeks. Any tips or suggestions before I do? I think I'll keep using the 4 for another few years. I've seen good reviews of the Pixel XL 2's speediness; but I have a 256gb microSD in my Note 4. I wish I could shave a couple mm's off the 4's bezels & give it some more powerful hardware. Thanks for any advice
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Don't worry, you'll get used to it.
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what I miss the most from the note 4 is the leathery back and the paint on the bezel that wasn't as likely to scratch or chip.
what I definitely do not miss is the 1 year life expectancy of the motherboard.
mine died from motherboard failure after about a year, it got repaired under warranty, and a year after I got it back it died from the exact same motherboard failure.
the note 8 feels more fragile on the outside, but I definitely wouldn't ever want to go back to the note 4.
I got the 8 and used it for a month or so. I them went back to the 4 for a couple of days thinking there wouldn't be much difference but in reality the 8 is so much better.
Although I wasn't a fan of the 18:9 display initially I do prefer it now and the 4 was also noticeably slower. Even with a new Anker battery the 8 out lasts the 4 by some margin.
I still have my Note 4 as a backup but definitely no going back for me.
A side from not having the user removable battery. I actually like the Note 8 more than I expected. It is fast, the design and features are very good. Just wished that Samsung Notes and S Note had the OCR function from the Note 8.
I had the Note, Note3, LG G4 (worst decision I've ever made) and now the Note8. When I got the Note3 I thought it was the best phone ever created, with so many good features that I liked. Now, having the Note8, I feel like this is the greatest phone ever made. There's nothing about the Note8 that I don't like.
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I had the Note, Note3, LG G4 (worst decision I've ever made) and now the Note8. When I got the Note3 I thought it was the best phone ever created, with so many good features that I liked. Now, having the Note8, I feel like this is the greatest phone ever phone. There's nothing about the Note8 that I don't like.
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Ditto
- R. Kruse Ludington
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Max_Terrible said:
I had the Note, Note3, LG G4 (worst decision I've ever made) and now the Note8. When I got the Note3 I thought it was the best phone ever created, with so many good features that I liked. Now, having the Note8, I feel like this is the greatest phone ever made. There's nothing about the Note8 that I don't like.
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Same as above, except for me I tried the LG V10 hated it.
Note 4 was my favorite so far. Obviously not withstanding technology advancement etc compared to the Note 8.
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This is my 1st Note. I remember one of my colleagues had a note some years ago and I thought it was a monstrosity at the time. But he loved the thing and he would pull that S pen out and looked like he was having a ball. Now that I have one I understand that gleam in his eye. This device is just a great big beast of functionaliy and fun and hands down one of the best devices I've owned. Almost a year after purchase and it's running as smoothly as the day it was unboxed. I'm still on Nougat and Oreo has been sitting in the cue for weeks now. My phone runs great as it is now and I don't see anything that O has to offer that compels me to risk all of the problems others have had after upgrading. Anyone else?
I Have a note 3, a note 4, a note 7 and a note 8, the note 8 is obviously the best in every aspect, only thing I sometimes miss a little is the IR blaster, and of course the removable batt, but the water resistant feature gives you peace of mind, so, it is a ttade off, my note 4 has a a very annoying echo in calls, that would be my only complaint got tired trying to eliminate it
Limeybastard said:
Same as above, except for me I tried the LG V10 hated it.
Note 4 was my favorite so far. Obviously not withstanding technology advancement etc compared to the Note 8.
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I wanted the V10, but it wasn't available in South Africa. The reason I went for the G4 and not the Note5, at the time, is because I wanted a slightly cheaper phone and the Note5 didn't have the SD Card storage feature, which was a deal-breaker for me.
I see a lot of people saying the Note4 is or was their favourite. I have a friend that still has a Note4 and an S8 and she says she still loves the Note4 very much. More than the S8. She basically just uses the S8 for Whatsapp and the Note4 for everything else.
Max_Terrible said:
I wanted the V10, but it wasn't available in South Africa. The reason I went for the G4 and not the Note5, at the time, is because I wanted a slightly cheaper phone and the Note5 didn't have the SD Card storage feature, which was a deal-breaker for me.
I see a lot of people saying the Note4 is or was their favourite. I have a friend that still has a Note4 and an S8 and she says she still loves the Note4 very much. More than the S8. She basically just uses the S8 for Whatsapp and the Note4 for everything else.
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Yep, Note 4 was lovely. Skipped the Note 5 for the same reason you did. Not being finiky, but I'd like to see some sort of future Note model without the curved edges. I don't think the curved edges have any purpose currently.
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Medevac1 said:
My phone runs great as it is now and I don't see anything that O has to offer that compels me to risk all of the problems others have had after upgrading. Anyone else?
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That's great you like it as it is but the big argument for upgrading is the security patches...
You might find a few little extra's included that need searching for too as they aren't paraded around or listed in the changelog...
Not saying you have to but I have never had any problem with upgrades - using a non-rooted Exynos 950F.
Sometimes the pay-off is worth the risk and sometimes not, I'll leave it in your hands to decide what to do with your toy...
The curved and TV-remote type of body is definitely lame and unnecessary for a gadget that is supposed to have notes taking as its strong point. Why not leave those for the Galaxy S family ? The inability to change/remove battery is a combination of planned obsolescence and surveillance dystopia. The absence of AOSP/Lineage/Resurrection ROMs is the price we have to pay for Exynos. Battery and standby time are mediocre but at least it charges fast and the camera is good enough. The stylus is as crap/cheap as ever.
The problem is that, with Note 4, you want to go with performance/Exynos; then you basically have an unsupported/abandoned mobile, even though LineageOS has been resurrected lately in XDA by @dl12345 (original work by @bonuzzz). And the damn thing typically runs too hot and often throttles. RAM is low too.
Note 5 was a downgrade in every regard.
Note 3 was my favourite and probably the best, at least regarding popularity/support/market impact. But no OIS, terrible camera performance by today's standards (especially if you got rid of Samsung ROMs in order to make sense for having it), and the phone's built quality leaves a lot to be desired (Note 4 was an improvement).
A Note 7/FE with removable battery and a better built stylus would have been the ideal phone for me but designers/marketers/managers at Samsung never have a clue.
My Note 4 died a view months ago so I bought a Note 8. Although it has more power and all I still miss my Note 4. I hate the round edges of my Note 8. It's a pain in the a.. to use it with remote desktop. Those edges are good for nothing. I also hate the fact that I can't replace the battery anymore. Now I have to carry a power bank with me, while before I just had a fully charged replacement battery with me.
Screen and power is very good, but the old screen was better as it has not had this silly aspect ratio. I want to show my pictures with my phone, but due to the silly aspect ratio, I have huge black borders left and right and the actual area feels smaller than on my Note 4.
So yes, I liked my Note 4 more, but the Note 8 is not a bad phone at all.
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I'm trying to decide if price is playing a huge factor between these two phones. I will also do another post in the Verizon Note 2 forum and see if adding a sd card slot and removable battery to the DNA would get people to change their minds.
I much prefer HTC over Samsung. IMHO, everything from the radios to build quality is better. Having said that, if I hadn't liked what HTC came out with this fall, I would have bought a GS3.
For me it comes down to storage, the Droid DNA only has a 16gb model and no Micro SD, it writes the device off no matter how good it is.
If it had a Micro SD slot at least then both devices are pretty much equal and it all comes down to which one you like the look of and if an extra 0.5 inch matters to you in a screen. Tbh nothing makes the GN2 stutter so I don't care about specs at this point, though the Droid DNA is more powerful on paper. Cameras are about the same, speakers are the same, mics are the same. I personally prefer TouchWiz, Samsung add so many good features standard Android doesn't have and I feel like everyone is playing catch up to Samsung. I mean the Pen has great features like being able to pull it out mid call and write a phone number down, which is a feature I've always wanted, it makes it so seamless. I love the Picture in Picture TouchWiz has and I love the multiple Windows you can have open in the GN2.
You ain't gonna complain with either device tbh...
GN2 has a removable battery, 0.5 inch extra screen size, pen, large storage + Micro SD
Droid DNA has the latest specs but only 16GB and no Micro SD
Really when it comes to screen quality, you wont complain with either, I don't buy into the PPI hype, you don't notice any difference above 250PPI when held from a normal distance.
I would go for note 2 because of the battery... DNA lasts for just 5 hrs
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I would still get the DNA: Not a fan of SAmoled screens, Note II would be too large, love HTCs phones and Sense.
yajur1995 said:
I would go for note 2 because of the battery... DNA lasts for just 5 hrs
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Not completely true. It depends on usage.
Playing 5 hours straight or 1080p video will definitely kill the battery. But then again that's 5 hours of 1080p video, can't complain there.
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I vote Note 2.
The S-pen on the Note 2 is incredibly useful compared to the Note 1.
The Note 2 has true multi-window multitasking, you can watch a video, open up the browser and surf the web while looking at photos in the gallery. All on the same screen. It's actually quite awesome the first time you use it.
Note 2 has flash support in the browser.
The battery life on he Note 2 is hailed as probably the best in the business, lasts about twice as long as the DNA on a single charge.
removable battery is a plus on the Note 2 also.
expandable storage is another great feature of the Note 2. Slap in a 64GB card and you got 80GB of combined storage.
The screen on the Note 2 is quite beautiful, it is non-pentile so it is extra sharp and clear. Honestly I don't think you will be able to tell much difference between the two screens when using it day to day. Like someone said, it's hard to tell after 250ppi.
The Note 2's resolution should be much more compatible with more apps and games in the playstore. The 1080p on the DNA already has issues running many apps and games according to a few reviewers.
The DNA has a bettery cpu/gpu combo but it's pushing a lot more pixels, so I think that any performance advantage is cancelled out.
So it seems like the Note 2 is the much better device.
Everything is awesome about DNA except the battery. I'm a hardcore user i play lots of games. I don't understand HTC.. they didn't learn anything from One X. On the other hand Note 2 is very good but i don't like the Exynos cpu and 267 ppi pixel density is too low. So folks please help me what to choose. I'm driving myself insane.
This is the way I see it. Both phones doing extremely well on benchmarks so I wont comment about speed.
Note II Pros:
- Spen
- Multiwindow
- Battery life + removable
- MicroSD
- Bigger screen
- Available on all carriers
Note II Cons:
- too big, not comfy to hold
- looks ridiculous when held up for phone calls
- slippery plastic build quality
- amoled screen
- cell radio
DNA Pros:
- build quality
- excellent size, same width as SGS3 so its easy to hold
- 1080p screen + SLCD3
- wide angle front camera (pics with wife + video chat, very useful to me)
- best camera software
- waterproof rating is good (i've dropped 2 phones in the water)
DNA Cons:
- no microsd
- 16gb internal storage
- sense + verizon bloat (can both be fixed by roms and disabling)
- Verizon exclusive, works on some other GSM but no HSPA+ afaik
- battery not removable
For me personally I choose DNA. I've decided that the 16gb will do just fine for me since my current phone only has 8gb and is barely full. The rest of the Cons don't bother me at all as everything software side can be customized or fixed through roms. The battery is more than sufficient, especially if its better than SGS3 battery which most reviews seem to be saying.
The Note II is a great phone but the build quality, size, slippery feel and cell radio are things that cannot be changed. I sure as hell would not add a case to make it even bigger. I also would feel like an idiot holding that thing up to my face. Just my opinion though, I'm sure its a great phone for the right person, Lebron James.
Well its difficult to compare a phone and a phablet. Since DNA is almost the same size as S3 it would be like comparing S3 with Note 2.
That said. I dont know but everyone misses out on the Beats functionality in DNA. I have tried One X in ATT with beats headphones and my Nexus with beats head phones and for me the difference was huge.
DNA all the way for me. I've always been a fan of HTC, mainly because of their higher build quality and better radios. In this case, the screen is also better than the Note II, and for me that's among the most important pieces of the puzzle, since that's what you look at and poke with your fingers.
Guys you might want to see this: http://www.starkinsider.com/2012/11/oh-no-htc-droid-dna-battery-lasts-only-425-hours-in-test.html
Vadrieldur said:
Guys you might want to see this: http://www.starkinsider.com/2012/11/oh-no-htc-droid-dna-battery-lasts-only-425-hours-in-test.html
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That is nothing new, he was going off the info from The Verge's review. Doing that same test the SGS3 got around 20min LESS than the DNA.
pottersam said:
This is the way I see it. Both phones doing extremely well on benchmarks so I wont comment about speed.
Note II Pros:
- Spen
- Multiwindow
- Battery life + removable
- MicroSD
- Bigger screen
- Available on all carriers
Note II Cons:
- too big, not comfy to hold
- looks ridiculous when held up for phone calls
- slippery plastic build quality
- amoled screen
- cell radio
DNA Pros:
- build quality
- excellent size, same width as SGS3 so its easy to hold
- 1080p screen + SLCD3
- wide angle front camera (pics with wife + video chat, very useful to me)
- best camera software
- waterproof rating is good (i've dropped 2 phones in the water)
DNA Cons:
- no microsd
- 16gb internal storage
- sense + verizon bloat (can both be fixed by roms and disabling)
- Verizon exclusive, works on some other GSM but no HSPA+ afaik
- battery not removable
For me personally I choose DNA. I've decided that the 16gb will do just fine for me since my current phone only has 8gb and is barely full. The rest of the Cons don't bother me at all as everything software side can be customized or fixed through roms. The battery is more than sufficient, especially if its better than SGS3 battery which most reviews seem to be saying.
The Note II is a great phone but the build quality, size, slippery feel and cell radio are things that cannot be changed. I sure as hell would not add a case to make it even bigger. I also would feel like an idiot holding that thing up to my face. Just my opinion though, I'm sure its a great phone for the right person, Lebron James.
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I have to agree with you HTC's phones all have amazing build quality and that is a major factor for me when buying a phone, unfortunately I hate sense. The S-pen and multiwindow is what does it for me, as for screens I can't really say until I can test both of them, I honestly can't tell the difference between a retina display and my Droid Incredible's Amoled screen (unless I hold it within an uncomfortable range of my eyes).
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That is nothing new, he was going off the info from The Verge's review. Doing that same test the SGS3 got around 20min LESS than the DNA.
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That's a relief.. I'm sticking with DNA then.
pottersam said:
This is the way I see it. Both phones doing extremely well on benchmarks so I wont comment about speed.
Note II Pros:
- Spen
- Multiwindow
- Battery life + removable
- MicroSD
- Bigger screen
- Available on all carriers
Note II Cons:
- too big, not comfy to hold
- looks ridiculous when held up for phone calls
- slippery plastic build quality
- amoled screen
- cell radio
DNA Pros:
- build quality
- excellent size, same width as SGS3 so its easy to hold
- 1080p screen + SLCD3
- wide angle front camera (pics with wife + video chat, very useful to me)
- best camera software
- waterproof rating is good (i've dropped 2 phones in the water)
DNA Cons:
- no microsd
- 16gb internal storage
- sense + verizon bloat (can both be fixed by roms and disabling)
- Verizon exclusive, works on some other GSM but no HSPA+ afaik
- battery not removable
For me personally I choose DNA. I've decided that the 16gb will do just fine for me since my current phone only has 8gb and is barely full. The rest of the Cons don't bother me at all as everything software side can be customized or fixed through roms. The battery is more than sufficient, especially if its better than SGS3 battery which most reviews seem to be saying.
The Note II is a great phone but the build quality, size, slippery feel and cell radio are things that cannot be changed. I sure as hell would not add a case to make it even bigger. I also would feel like an idiot holding that thing up to my face. Just my opinion though, I'm sure its a great phone for the right person, Lebron James.
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Just how many of you who really used note 2? Many of the cons you listed are not valid.
Note II Cons:[/B]
- too big, not comfy to hold : now this is subjective call. But I rarely see note 2 user who complaint about the phone being too big after using it for a couple if days. Testing the phone on the store won't do it justice, unless you really hate big phone.
- looks ridiculous when held up for phone calls : since I used note 1 last year, there is only a few people who told me how big my phone is. Of course it will be different on each neighbourhood. But big phones are common nowadays. You won't be looked ridiculous when you use note 2 for phone calls. Using 7 inches tablet however is a different story
- slippery plastic build quality : I very much agree on this. But for me personally, I'd take removable battery and micro sd over superior build quality any day of the week
- amoled screen : past amoled screens have burn ins and black crush. not with note 2. Check the poll results in note 2 thread.
- cell radio : no comment on this. I don't have this problem
That said, I never used DNA yet. So I might change my mind when i get my hands in it.
Judging from the reviews, it looks to me that DNA is One X with superior speeds.
I got a Note 2 because Samsung's software advancements. Plus I sold my tablet, the multi tasking caught my eye. I hwen't used a Samsung phone since the first Epic. Touchwiz is smooth for once compared to sense.
I upgraded from a HTC One S, even-though Sense is elegant it does not have as many productive settings to make your life easier like the S 3 or Note 2 I Find myself doing less steps to complete simple task than I did with my One S. Like making a phone call. Zooming in and out with motion. Sure I look like a fool moving my phone around in the air but it is simple.
The AMOLED burn-in issue is what worries me the most about this phone.
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Note 2 is a great phone and I have nothing against it, had it been 5 inches and same dimensions as dna I would hands down get it. It is just simply too big for my hands I have held one and I wanted to put it down right away.
Now people talking about htc sense, sense has come a long was from being a system hog, it is no longer the same sense it used to be and much more efficient.
Although HTC has absolutely failed when it comes to multitasking, I mean can we please have some features similar to samsung or even LG, seems like HTC has settled in on sense and focused more on hardware design totally forgot about innovation on software side. I hope they are working on improving their multitasking.
It seems like HTC is learning a lesson when it comes to updating sense. They used to never update the sense version on the older phones and you used to have to get new htc phones to get improvements of sense interface, but it seems that they have learned a lesson and all the one series are being updated to sense 4+, its about time they learned from samsung that you cant just update the OS version and leave the new sense version out because that really doesn't count towards a great user experience.
azhurvadal said:
Just how many of you who really used note 2? Many of the cons you listed are not valid.
Note II Cons:[/B]
- too big, not comfy to hold : now this is subjective call. But I rarely see note 2 user who complaint about the phone being too big after using it for a couple if days. Testing the phone on the store won't do it justice, unless you really hate big phone.
- looks ridiculous when held up for phone calls : since I used note 1 last year, there is only a few people who told me how big my phone is. Of course it will be different on each neighbourhood. But big phones are common nowadays. You won't be looked ridiculous when you use note 2 for phone calls. Using 7 inches tablet however is a different story
- slippery plastic build quality : I very much agree on this. But for me personally, I'd take removable battery and micro sd over superior build quality any day of the week
- amoled screen : past amoled screens have burn ins and black crush. not with note 2. Check the poll results in note 2 thread.
- cell radio : no comment on this. I don't have this problem
That said, I never used DNA yet. So I might change my mind when i get my hands in it.
Judging from the reviews, it looks to me that DNA is One X with superior speeds.
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Yep, like I said in my post, It's all my personal opinion. I could get used to using a Note II for calls just like I can get used to using a Nexus 7 for calls, but it doesn't necessarily mean I want to. In my experience with using a Note II I could feel my hand straining a bit while I griped it, while the S3, One X and GNex felt nice. I would say I have average size hands, 6ft tall and can 1-hand grip a basketball.
I don't mean to sound offensive, but a phone nearly the size of a tablet does look a little interesting during calls. Here's a few examples:
Example 1
Example 2
Example 3
But again, just my opinion, maybe its because I'm in california where most people have iphones.
And regarding the amoled screen, as a photographer my main beef with it is color accuracy. If I didn't care as much about using the phone as a mobile portfolio, it wouldnt matter as much. I'm sure the colors could be tweaked, but afaik SLCD3 > Amoled
They're 2 completely different devices.
I don't know why people insist on comparing the DNA to the Note. The DNA is the phone, its not even 5mm taller than the S3. Compare it to that. Compare it to the Optimus G, the Nexus 4, etc.
Just cause it hit some magical 5in screen size its now a direct competitor to the Note? If the DNA were 4.9in would these threads even exist? When Samsung starts with their 5in phones will people be comparing the S4 to the Note? I'm guessing not, since by then it'll be common place.
The DNA is a phone, not a 'phablet', there is no direct competition to the Note at this moment, besides that LG thing.. Which isn't much competition.
I've had my phone for two days so far. After spending six months on a Galaxy S6 parts of me are very happy to be home with the Nexus line again.. mainly pure Android and the development sure to come. However, I've noticed two things so far with which I'm not terribly happy.
First, those bezels. Christ, there has to be damn near 1 1/2 inches of bezel on this phone. I thought phones were moving towards a smaller and smaller bezel these days. Apparently Google and Huawei didn't get the memo.
Second, no matter how much they tried to sell it, the camera is just not anywhere near the level of (at least) Samsung's. This camera doesn't even belong in the same sentence as the word Samsung. It doesn't have the ability to snap a clear shot of anything moving, even of my small dog walking. Any motion equals blurry pics. The camera is actually why I tried the S6. It's also why I loved it. Of course, I hated just about everything else on the S6 (even the international unlocked version I bought).
I guess we'll see whether the camera, which is the most important part of the phone for me (kids, animals) ends up being bad enough to seek another phone with a better one.
Your thoughts after using it for a few days?
Don't have mine yet. (Thanks huawei) but hopefully some Google updates can make this a better experience for you. I know the nexus 5 had some updates that improved the camera a bit.
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Is this problem with moving subjects with hdr on?
Because if I'm not mistaken, Google camera has some cool but heavy post processing on photos taken with hdr+ and even the capture itself seems a bit slow at times.
This on my Nexus 5 and from what I've seen in videos it's the same pretty much with the 6p. It gives awesome results once you learn how to use it, I've taken some epic shots with my N5 and the camera is crappy.
Just don't use it for moving scenes.
I ended up writing too much xD
So, is this issue with regular hrd off shots also?
Yeah, definitely check HDR is off for motion. That and lots of light. Even with the bigger pixel size, these camera sensors are tiny and have no chance with motion in low light.
I'm actually curious about more opinions on this. I just listed my Note 5 because I had a Nexus 5 before and I want to go back to Nexus with the 6P. The camera doesn't matter that much to me because I use a DSLR for any pictures I actually care about. I'm sure it's still a massive improvement over the Nexus 5 camera I had for years, hah.
I had the s6 and note 5. I will agree that the note 5 is the better of the two, however it's not miles ahead of the 6p. If I graded them on a scale 1 to 100, the note 5 would be 95 and the nexus 6p would be an 90
Got one today. My impression is by far best nexus phone. Only thing i wish thr power button was more stiff its too light.
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I had the s6 and note 5. I will agree that the note 5 is the better of the two, however it's not miles ahead of the 6p. If I graded them on a scale 1 to 100, the note 5 would be 95 and the nexus 6p would be an 90
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That's kind of how I feel. The Note 5 is very likely the best phone on the market right now, but it's still not a Nexus. And while I like the Exynos hardware, you're stuck with the lack of software. I feel like the screen is by far the best part of the Note though, so I was quite surprised to hear the same screen on the 6P or else I might have waited in the first place.
I'm in love with mine. Just arrived today. Screen is beautiful. Signal/radio is far superior to Samsung....even better than my Busted G3, and I haven't had service this good since I used HTC. Size is bigger than I would have liked. But I knew it was big going in. G3 was about my limit...and this is a tad larger. I'll get used to it. Love the bigger screen but it's just a tad to big for one hand all the time. Fingerprint sensor is flawless for me. Camera seems fine so far for me, but my complaint is the higher resolution photos are only 4:3, not 16:9. Battery life will take a few days to test. I thought I might have to root and rom because I hate the menu set up on my Nexus 7 (2013) but this is ok for me. No complaints.
BTW to the OP...the top and bottom bezels are for the speakers. No bottom speaker, than I would bet smaller bezel.
The Note 5 certainly does have the best hardware. As for the best phone that is subjective. The nexus P is certainly a great contender and at it's price point it is a superior device. No, it isn't the "best" in every category. Neither is the Note 5 or any device for that matter. All depends on what you're looking for. If you don't care about updates, development and the issues that plague samsung phones (memory management for one) then by all means get one. It is a solid device. One of the best out there.
What kept me from buying Samsung is development sucks for them, they lock down devices on the two best carriers in the USA and I'm tired of the Touchwiz bloat. Oh and its almost twice the price. If those were not true I'd gladly give Samsung my money again.
The Nexus P is a very well built device with a display that is very close to the Note 5, a very good camera, great battery life, excellent performance and you are guaranteed to have excellent development here and updates from Google.
Pick which one is more important to you.
I'm the same as the OP in the sense I came to the 6p after 6 frustrating months with the s6.
The screen, camera size and design of the s6 is pretty amazing. Excellent in all regards. But the software... Awful. Multitasking was impossible and touchwiz just annoyed me.
The 6p software is pure and fast. Excellent.
But I agree the camera and screen aren't in the same league as the s6 really.
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That's kind of how I feel. The Note 5 is very likely the best phone on the market right now, but it's still not a Nexus. And while I like the Exynos hardware, you're stuck with the lack of software. I feel like the screen is by far the best part of the Note though, so I was quite surprised to hear the same screen on the 6P or else I might have waited in the first place.
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exactly, the note5 is a great phone however if you want stock, are sick of waiting for updates, AND are stuck with one that can't be rooted depending on your carrier you'll move to the 6p like i did.
If you guys got a good pair of headphones then you'll notice the quality of the stock tuning is amazing. Wow in impressed from stock. Not bad google not bad
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Also coming from an S6..
The S6 screen, form factor and stock e-mail app (Exchange still sucks on Gmail) are the only things I'll miss (Maybe the Camera but I really haven't used the 6P Camera much to make that judgement).
The positives though outweigh the negatives.. much stronger latch on to wifi and mobile signal compared to the S6. Places where I would drop out of wifi completly on the s6 still give me 3-4 bars on the 6p. Software.. so much smoother than touchwiz (I'd forgotten how buttery stock android really is). Everything about the device feels faster as a result of the software even though specs wise the S6 out-guns the 6p. Battery life is awesome compared to the S6 - no more mid-day charge required.
I still dream of another Samsung Nexus...
The only bother I have is the screen has a rainbow reflection and I can't read it in my car or in the sun
The only thing that's bugging the hell out of me is the bezels but that's just because the Nexus 6 bezels were so small other than that I'm loving it
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Praises:
Faster/smoother experience vs. my S6
Screen is nearly identical to S6
Stereo speakers are great
Complaints:
Headphone volume seems extra low
FuMMoD said:
If you guys got a good pair of headphones then you'll notice the quality of the stock tuning is amazing. Wow in impressed from stock. Not bad google not bad
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I was also vary impressed of the sound quality from just out of the box. I’ve all was prefer stock android but one of the main reasons that I root my phones was to use Viper but now I have been thinking that I’ll won't have to.
BTW:
Headphone - Bose
Bluetooth Earbuds - JayBird X
Only complaint so far is the volume and power buttons being in the middle. the first thing I did was unlock decrypt and root . Plugging in and unplugging the cable I would always hit the power button which sucked when I was in bootloader mode and I plug my cable in and damn the phone is booting because my hand touched the power button. other than that this phone is ace . I need my other cases to come in. I had two verus cases but they weren't cut right so I sending them back for a return.
I'm coming from a oneplus one so I'm sure the camera will be better when mine arrives lol
I`m using this as my work phone, probably the best built Android Device I have ever used. I mainly use iOS devices, but this Nexus 6p is maybe the first Android device I could see my self using as a daily driver assuming I did not use iOS for personal use. Great Device, I had the LG G4 and the S6 edge earlier this yr and enjoy the build quality on this far more, but I will say the s6 has the best phone I used all year on a phone in comparison to the g4, 6p and the 6s+ I use as a personal phone.
As we know it, the Nexus 6P just got released and there are some big questions out there. I have the Note 4 and the iPhone 6 Plus. Some questions that other people ask as well as I is what makes you want to buy the Nexus 6P or use the Nexus 6P over a phone like the Note 4, Note5, or iPhone 6S/6S Plus? Any thoughts or discussions?
Price. Pure android. Thats about it.
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Nexus for the WIN!!
Pure android, good camera, good battery life, and so many options to select rom / kernel. Came from note 5 and now I am happy with my device.
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As we know it, the Nexus 6P just got released and there are some big questions out there. I have the Note 4 and the iPhone 6 Plus. Some questions that other people ask as well as I is what makes you want to buy the Nexus 6P or use the Nexus 6P over a phone like the Note 4, Note5, or iPhone 6S/6S Plus? Any thoughts or discussions?
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reeeeally not trying to be an arse, but the device has been out long enough now that there are countless posts, threads and articles on this exact topic
I also had all 3 and this phone hands down is better then the other 2.. I really think my Note 4 was a lemon because it lagged really bad right from the beginning and after numerous hard resets I sold it and just got a 6+ until this came out. Wont ever look back and wished I hadnt
^good choice!
I've had the G4, iPhone 6s, and Note 5 this past year. The 6P is by far the best phone out of all of them with the lowest number of compromises. After using the Nexus, I never want to use an OEM-skinned phone again on an ancient OS!
I'm surprised to see I can't even record video in 1080P at 60fps with the Nexus 6P. I use that mode all the time for video.
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this is the Google’s Finest Android Phone Yet
Here is my feedback on it..
Nexus 6P: absolutely stunning design, feels good in the hand, one of the fastest and stable phones to date, beautiful camera quality, and yes pure androird.
Now the bad, BATTERY!!, for the size of the battery, i would not get over 4.5hrs of sot, this is crazy having most of the stuff and services i did not need turned off. Display very very low, no facebook app to drain, timed syns, it has to honestly be one of the worst batteries i have had. I actually sold it due to the battery.
I then went to a note 4 on kit kat. And my sot streaming netflix, facebook, over 2.5 hrs of calls, everything on 4glte no wifi what do ever since im on the road, i get from 6 to 7.5 sot, even though the note 4 isnt as fast, i cant see myself investing 500$+ for a phone whose battery wont last.
And the note 4 has the good old removable battery and sd card.
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Here is my feedback on it..
Nexus 6P: absolutely stunning design, feels good in the hand, one of the fastest and stable phones to date, beautiful camera quality, and yes pure androird.
Now the bad, BATTERY!!, for the size of the battery, i would not get over 4.5hrs of sot, this is crazy having most of the stuff and services i did not need turned off. Display very very low, no facebook app to drain, timed syns, it has to honestly be one of the worst batteries i have had. I actually sold it due to the battery.
I then went to a note 4 on kit kat. And my sot streaming netflix, facebook, over 2.5 hrs of calls, everything on 4glte no wifi what do ever since im on the road, i get from 6 to 7.5 sot, even though the note 4 isnt as fast, i cant see myself investing 500$+ for a phone whose battery wont last.
And the note 4 has the good old removable battery and sd card.
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7.5 hours SOT? Wow. Never needed that much SOT.
Fast updates (my Samsung is still on 5.0.1)
Pure android
Good camera
Good battery life
Easy to root
Stereo speakers
Fast fingerprint reader
I change my note 5 for nexus 6p. For me is better, more fluid, more roms, more updates, no lags.
Best phone I ve used in years.. Keep up the good work google!!! Pure stock is flawless, no need to root!
Only down side is the too sensible power button
I also find the power button to be very sensible- very sensible, indeed...
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I also find the power button to be very sensible- very sensible, indeed...
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Haha, makes more sense than a coin change machine...
Guys
You write a lot regarding comparison to Note5/S6E+ and similar.
Currently i own Note4 and here are main factors which stops me from going to 6P.
- camera (OIS and overall quality)
- on screen buttons (making in fact screen smaller during daily activities , not movies or gaming)
At the moment i can't imagine phone smaller than 5,7 and use my Note for photo and movie watching.
DO You think this particular experience might be better on Note5/S6E+
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Guys
You write a lot regarding comparison to Note5/S6E+ and similar.
Currently i own Note4 and here are main factors which stops me from going to 6P.
- camera (OIS and overall quality)
- on screen buttons (making in fact screen smaller during daily activities , not movies or gaming)
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I think for the majority of users, images taken without OIS are good enough for what they actually take pictures for: social media sharing, sending to friends and family, putting on their blog, keeping in photo albums, etc. I'd imagine most folks in those audiences can't tell the difference between an image shot with OIS hardware and the same image shot without, especially considering the 6p has a fantastic camera to begin with. See some examples of images shot from both devices and judge for yourself.
Aesthetically, you can hide the on-screen buttons much like you hide the taskbar in Windows, if you need to reclaim your screen real estate. You can even run a full swipe-gesture navigation setup (or something like PIE) if you really don't like persistent on-screen nav buttons. I also think the Nexus 6p looks much sleeker without hardware buttons on the front. There's nothing to accidentally press either when storing or transporting the device.
The dual, front facing stereo speakers on the 6p sound wonderful, and I can't emphasize this point enough. Coming from a mono speaker like an iPhone or a Note, you really can tell the difference. Add Viper on top of that to tune the sound, and you've got a clear and rich soundstage produced from your phone. Mono speakers just can't hold a candle to the 6p's.
Just a little Nexus apologetics from a recent convert.
Hey All,
Firstly, thanks in advance for the wisdom, advice, and support.
I need some advice. I am a historic Galaxy Note user - from the Note 2 through the Note 5, I've had and loved them all. I recently switched to the V30 last week after my Note 5 just wasn't making it anymore. The V30 appealed to me as a multimedia powerhouse with the unique 10 bit camera, cine log, etc. (I create multimedia - video/photos/social media on the daily for my job - the have since given me a iPhone 7+, but I still prefer creating on my android). The Note 8 appeals because it seems to be more comforting considering my history, is a powerhouse as well in so many ways, and a telephoto lens, among other things.
After returning my first Verizon V30 for terrible screen banding, I got another one that has a pretty good screen with the exception of brightness uniformity issues and crushed blacks in low light. I've read, watched, and researched as much as I can, and I can't decide what to do. I'd love your input and advice on what to do. Here's my pro/con list in no particular order:
V30:
+ DAC
+ Cine Log
+ Size in hand
+ $200 card + daydream VR
- Screen in low light (uniformity + crushed blacks)
- Wide angle cam
- 4gb ram
Note 8:
+ S pen
+ Samsung Pay
+ Telephoto camera
+6gb Ram
+ $150 credit (best buy promotion)
- Size
- Fingerprint location
Advice is much appreciated!
Thank you!
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Hey All,
Firstly, thanks in advance for the wisdom, advice, and support.
I need some advice. I am a historic Galaxy Note user - from the Note 2 through the Note 5, I've had and loved them all. I recently switched to the V30 last week after my Note 5 just wasn't making it anymore. The V30 appealed to me as a multimedia powerhouse with the unique 10 bit camera, cine log, etc. (I create multimedia - video/photos/social media on the daily for my job - the have since given me a iPhone 7+, but I still prefer creating on my android). The Note 8 appeals because it seems to be more comforting considering my history, is a powerhouse as well in so many ways, and a telephoto lens, among other things.
After returning my first Verizon V30 for terrible screen banding, I got another one that has a pretty good screen with the exception of brightness uniformity issues and crushed blacks in low light. I've read, watched, and researched as much as I can, and I can't decide what to do. I'd love your input and advice on what to do. Here's my pro/con list in no particular order:
V30:
+ DAC
+ Cine Log
+ Size in hand
+ $200 card + daydream VR
- Screen in low light (uniformity + crushed blacks)
- Wide angle cam
- 4gb ram
Note 8:
+ S pen
+ Samsung Pay
+ Telephoto camera
+6gb Ram
+ $150 credit (best buy promotion)
- Size
- Fingerprint location
Advice is much appreciated!
Thank you!
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I think if you can answer the question what do you miss from your current V30 is there a feature that is really USEFUL for you you wish it would have had? Specs aside real use for your specific needs
Etemchin said:
Hey All,
Firstly, thanks in advance for the wisdom, advice, and support.
I need some advice. I am a historic Galaxy Note user - from the Note 2 through the Note 5, I've had and loved them all. I recently switched to the V30 last week after my Note 5 just wasn't making it anymore. The V30 appealed to me as a multimedia powerhouse with the unique 10 bit camera, cine log, etc. (I create multimedia - video/photos/social media on the daily for my job - the have since given me a iPhone 7+, but I still prefer creating on my android). The Note 8 appeals because it seems to be more comforting considering my history, is a powerhouse as well in so many ways, and a telephoto lens, among other things.
After returning my first Verizon V30 for terrible screen banding, I got another one that has a pretty good screen with the exception of brightness uniformity issues and crushed blacks in low light. I've read, watched, and researched as much as I can, and I can't decide what to do. I'd love your input and advice on what to do. Here's my pro/con list in no particular order:
V30:
+ DAC
+ Cine Log
+ Size in hand
+ $200 card + daydream VR
- Screen in low light (uniformity + crushed blacks)
- Wide angle cam
- 4gb ram
Note 8:
+ S pen
+ Samsung Pay
+ Telephoto camera
+6gb Ram
+ $150 credit (best buy promotion)
- Size
- Fingerprint location
Advice is much appreciated!
Thank you!
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I am not sure what exactly you are asking....
I can tell you that I had the Note 8 for 2 weeks and took it back. It's BIG. HEAVY and I didn't use the S-Pen after the first couple of days. The Camera was phenomenal. I returned it and used a flip phone for two days, then bought the V30 on release day at AT&T. I did it that way so I could return it for the Note 8 if I didn't like it.
So far, so good. My screen is good. The brightness is weird, sometimes it seems brighter than others, but as of yet it has not been a big deal. It is NOWHERE near as bright as the Note 8, but no phone is. I do miss that about the 8. I do not miss the zoom lens. It was a gimmick. It helped some with macro photos, but the digital zoom on the V30 is AMAZING.
Battery life is about the same, and the LG charges faster then the Note. The LG fits in pockets better and seems right in my hand, whereas the Note seemed way too long. You really notice that the LG is nearly 40 grams lighter, but it does not feel cheap. Also, the manual mode on the LG Camera is so much better than the Note. It has much better tactile control on it's slider. That makes all the difference in the world. And the sound, whether through a cord or bluetooth is MUCH better in my car!
I have until Thursday to make up my mind about trading, but I think I'm going to be very happy with the LG.
I hope that helps
the note 8 is better. smoother has bettet screen , feel more premium. owning both right now the note 8 is going back and is just because of how tall and heavy it is. the v30 is just much more comfortbale devices. Botj phone are awesome.
Thank you all for the opinions!
I appreciate your feedback and and still conflicted although am leaning toward keeping the V30. One of the original reasons I chose was the size and it sounds like the 8 is just too huge. Just wish the V30 had Samsung Pay and a better screen experience, but I think the V30 checks all the right boxes.
Thanks again!
Etemchin said:
Thank you all for the opinions!
I appreciate your feedback and and still conflicted although am leaning toward keeping the V30. One of the original reasons I chose was the size and it sounds like the 8 is just too huge. Just wish the V30 had Samsung Pay and a better screen experience, but I think the V30 checks all the right boxes.
Thanks again!
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I was debating between those two also and had to go with v30 I've owned note phones before but never used the spen but cant deny note8 looks beautiful but I'm a music guys and prefer the camera set up of the v30 and so far no issue with the v30 screen loving it
If the op is concern about size then the v30 is the right choice. I am also a note user, dating back from the original phablet note. The note 8 feels Right at home, if anything the note 8 is actually easier to hold vs note 5 and back. Starting with the note 7 which was quiet nice to hold also. I suggest the op go play with the note 8. If the v30 screen is not your cup of tea, the note 8 has the best screen right now.
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Etemchin said:
Thank you all for the opinions!
Just wish the V30 had Samsung Pay and a better screen experience, but I think the V30 checks all the right boxes.
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Why the preference for Samsung Pay? (I use Android Pay but have never used the other.)
Nay Tyzon said:
Why the preference for Samsung Pay? (I use Android Pay but have never used the other.)
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unlike android pay. samsung pay work anywhere u are able to swipe ur card, even if it doesnt take electronic payment. it sents a magnetic signal to the credit swipe machine just like if u are physically swiping ur credit/debit card register in the app. works 100% of the time. unlike other electronic payment like apple or android pay.
I have the Note 8 but have tested out the V30 as well.
Pros for the Note 8:
-Brighter screen with more saturated colors
-6 GB RAM helps with app management
-Better looking UI. Though both can be themed.
-Feels more substantial
-Conventional power button placement
-Headphone jack on the bottom instead of top
Pros for the V30:
-Smaller form factor, more comfortable to hold
-Audio optimization
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I have the Note 8 but have tested out the V30 as well.
Pros for the Note 8:
-Brighter screen with more saturated colors
-6 GB RAM helps with app management
-Better looking UI. Though both can be themed.
-Feels more substantial
-Conventional power button placement
-Headphone jack on the bottom instead of top
Pros for the V30:
-Smaller form factor, more comfortable to hold
-Audio optimization
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ad to the v30.
better fingerprint location
up there with the best,faster more acurrate fingerprint around
face unlock with screen off
better battery life
phone still super cool doesnt matter what u do. note 8 doesnt get has hot like s8. but cannot compare to the v30 coolness
i had both but decided to keep the v30 just because the hifi dac, wide angle lens, the size which is 100% more comfortable and 6" of usuable screen. hated the curve screen.
For me the Note 8 was just too heavy. The curved screen registered way too many accidental touches. I don't use the S-Pen on my Note 3, so I doubt I'd use it on the Note 8. The screen on the V30 is bright bright enough for me. The camera is fine. The audio quality with headphones is amazing on the V30 too.
Overall, for me, the V30 worked out great. Now to get my first VR headset. They said I'm approved for the promotion and it'll be here in 6-8 weeks. Two year warranty was a nice added bonus as well.
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Sheldor1967 said:
I am not sure what exactly you are asking....
I can tell you that I had the Note 8 for 2 weeks and took it back. It's BIG. HEAVY and I didn't use the S-Pen after the first couple of days. The Camera was phenomenal. I returned it and used a flip phone for two days, then bought the V30 on release day at AT&T. I did it that way so I could return it for the Note 8 if I didn't like it.
So far, so good. My screen is good. The brightness is weird, sometimes it seems brighter than others, but as of yet it has not been a big deal. It is NOWHERE near as bright as the Note 8, but no phone is. I do miss that about the 8. I do not miss the zoom lens. It was a gimmick. It helped some with macro photos, but the digital zoom on the V30 is AMAZING.
Battery life is about the same, and the LG charges faster then the Note. The LG fits in pockets better and seems right in my hand, whereas the Note seemed way too long. You really notice that the LG is nearly 40 grams lighter, but it does not feel cheap. Also, the manual mode on the LG Camera is so much better than the Note. It has much better tactile control on it's slider. That makes all the difference in the world. And the sound, whether through a cord or bluetooth is MUCH better in my car!
I have until Thursday to make up my mind about trading, but I think I'm going to be very happy with the LG.
I hope that helps
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I just got home from work. I have the note 8 since Friday so basically 2 days. I love the phone except that it's too big and heavy like you said. If if was 6 inches itwp ups be the perfect device. But damn it's so big. So now I'm thinking about returning it and grabbing either an S8, V30 or Z2 even.
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barondebxl said:
I just got home from work. I have the note 8 since Friday so basically 2 days. I love the phone except that it's too big and heavy like you said. If if was 6 inches itwp ups be the perfect device. But damn it's so big. So now I'm thinking about returning it and grabbing either an S8, V30 or Z2 even.
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Check out the V30. It's a great phone. Body to screen ratio is awesome. The face detection works great. Battery life is great. A huge improvement over my Nexus 6p.
I had the Note 8 (unlocked US version) and then bought the V30...after about 3 days with the V30 I sold the Note 8.
You can see what I liked/disliked alone with camera samples from both on this thread if interested.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/initial-weekend-tmo-v30-t3685793
ern88 said:
Check out the V30. It's a great phone. Body to screen ratio is awesome. The face detection works great. Battery life is great. A huge improvement over my Nexus 6p.
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Thanks. I wish it had a notification light though
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barondebxl said:
Thanks. I wish it had a notification light though
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True. I miss that as well. But the always on display kind of makes up for it.
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True. I miss that as well. But the always on display kind of makes up for it.
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Have u guys considered the regular S8?
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Have u guys considered the regular S8?
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Yes, my wife has the S8 and I had the S8+. I prefer the V30 or Pixel 2 XL over them. I just love the aspect ration of the V30 so much more and it feels like the perfect size phone to me. Just wish I could get rid of some of the random lag and have it snappy like the Pixel
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Yes, my wife has the S8 and I had the S8+. I prefer the V30 or Pixel 2 XL over them. I just love the aspect ration of the V30 so much more and it feels like the perfect size phone to me. Just wish I could get rid of some of the random lag and have it snappy like the Pixel
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Oh damn random lag? No bueno lol. Im literally at the tmobile store about to exchsnge my note 8 for V30 or S8, still havent decided
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So perhaps this review might be slightly contradictory to my other thread (Samsung Giving up or....). Only way to find out is to dive right in......
So I'm not here to praise or affiliate myself with a particular brand, what I mean is that some very much love Samsung and don't like any criticism, or others may disagree and that's fine (my words are just from my perspective). Everyone has there own likes, things they find useful, basically we are all different and that is just fine. Opinions from others that may follow are to be respected as we all won't share the same experience or views.
The Galaxy Note 10 got released in two variants oh wait no make that three, and yes I think this is a good idea (although price points i am not agreeable on).
However as the title suggests this little review is based on the model I have SM-N976b that's the Exynos 9825 5G variant.
Display: What we have is a 6.8" Dynamic Amoled Display and there is very little disputing it's best in class. From the vibrant colours to the deep blacks it really is a stunning screen. The punch-hole is symmetrical and really doesn't get in the way or my enjoyment (however some might not like, and find it distracting). I tend to appreciate larger displays (having recently purchased the Mate 20 X 5G 7.2") I was particularly pleased that Samsung decided to make the Display larger on the + variant. With it being a note , that is aimed at productivity and media 6.8" was/is a delight for me personally.
Performance: The performance of the 9825 is marginal if anything above the 9820 (used on the S10, S10+). However I get tired of the complaints, yes perhaps the 855 is marginally better in certain areas, it's not a huge gulf between the two that is going to dramatically affect the user experience. I have found it to be very fast and fluid and hasn't hindered my experience. Basically it performs as a flagship processor should. Very little complaints from me.
Functionality: We have the good old S-Pen and without a doubt it's still industry leading (Perhaps because not many oem's have decided to compete) however as a productivity tool it's fantastic (wether you use it not). I am not sold on the Harry potter waving the pen around, it's just a feature that I think Samsung could have left out & focused that time and resources in another area. However I get that they wanted to add something else to the pen, but I don't think many will be using it.
You have here with the Note 10+ a device that offers up great features as in improving DeX to be used as a virtual environment on a laptop (Some may benefit from this) link to Windows to provide that ecosystem and connection with your PC/Laptop. We also have Gamelink (Conning Soon) along with all the other things like app edge, dual window. So it really does offer up that fantastic functionality.
Battery: Well I have the Mate 20 X and with the 7.2" Display (all be it 1080p) it without a doubt lasts longer than the Note 10+, wouldn't say by a huge margin, I usually and can easily get 7hrs on the note, but with the X it can be 8+, but EMUI is more restrictive in app management. I think the Note could be better optimised and I'm sure with updates it will.
Camera: The cameras on the Note all be it just little improvements over the S-Line, they perform well in most areas, fall short in others. Yes you can say the P30 Pro or pixel are better, some areas yes they most certainly are, but even they fall short in let's say the video department, so as a balanced camera then yeah it's great and that is what I look for, if you want the best if everything Also buy the P30 Pro & Pixel and carry around 3 devices
Design: I think this is where Samsung spent a chunk of time, with the Display & rearrangement, all be it most certainly Q's from Huawei but that's not a negative thing and I absolutely love what Samsung have done here. It's a stunning device.
My Honest opinion: I was complaining slightly that Samsung perhaps could of should of done more and I still stand with that in certain areas. These are in the camera software, perhaps that 90hz (yes I don't think this was possible, due to the S-Pen), but would have been a nice option, but when you look at it, its an iterative improvement, but the areas of focus have been done well, and here we have a stunning productivity device that will make many users happy, but leave some disappointed as expectation, left us without some of the little things we are seeing from others not here on the note.
After using it now for 5 days I fully appreciate a nice and solid device that covers most areas well, but like any device falls short in others. I'm very happy with my purchase and I hope you all are to
Please feel free to add to this, or add in constructive criticism, it's all appreciated, just be respectful, and don't disregard others opinions (unless they are just rediculous).
Duncan1982 said:
So perhaps this review might be slightly contradictory to my other thread (Samsung Giving up or....). Only way to find out is to dive right in......
So I'm not here to praise or affiliate myself with a particular brand, what I mean is that some very much love Samsung and don't like any criticism, or others may disagree and that's fine (my words are just from my perspective). Everyone has there own likes, things they find useful, basically we are all different and that is just fine. Opinions from others that may follow are to be respected as we all won't share the same experience or views.
The Galaxy Note 10 got released in two variants oh wait no make that three, and yes I think this is a good idea (although price points i am not agreeable on).
However as the title suggests this little review is based on the model I have SM-N976b that's the Exynos 9825 5G variant.
Display: What we have is a 6.8" Dynamic Amoled Display and there is very little disputing it's best in class. From the vibrant colours to the deep blacks it really is a stunning screen. The punch-hole is symmetrical and really doesn't get in the way or my enjoyment (however some might not like, and find it distracting). I tend to appreciate larger displays (having recently purchased the Mate 20 X 5G 7.2") I was particularly pleased that Samsung decided to make the Display larger on the + variant. With it being a note , that is aimed at productivity and media 6.8" was/is a delight for me personally.
Performance: The performance of the 9825 is marginal if anything above the 9820 (used on the S10, S10+). However I get tired of the complaints, yes perhaps the 855 is marginally better in certain areas, it's not a huge gulf between the two that is going to dramatically affect the user experience. I have found it to be very fast and fluid and hasn't hindered my experience. Basically it performs as a flagship processor should. Very little complaints from me.
Functionality: We have the good old S-Pen and without a doubt it's still industry leading (Perhaps because not many oem's have decided to compete) however as a productivity tool it's fantastic (wether you use it not). I am not sold on the Harry potter waving the pen around, it's just a feature that I think Samsung could have left out & focused that time and resources in another area. However I get that they wanted to add something else to the pen, but I don't think many will be using it.
You have here with the Note 10+ a device that offers up great features as in improving DeX to be used as a virtual environment on a laptop (Some may benefit from this) link to Windows to provide that ecosystem and connection with your PC/Laptop. We also have Gamelink (Conning Soon) along with all the other things like app edge, dual window. So it really does offer up that fantastic functionality.
Battery: Well I have the Mate 20 X and with the 7.2" Display (all be it 1080p) it without a doubt lasts longer than the Note 10+, wouldn't say by a huge margin, I usually and can easily get 7hrs on the note, but with the X it can be 8+, but EMUI is more restrictive in app management. I think the Note could be better optimised and I'm sure with updates it will.
Camera: The cameras on the Note all be it just little improvements over the S-Line, they perform well in most areas, fall short in others. Yes you can say the P30 Pro or pixel are better, some areas yes they most certainly are, but even they fall short in let's say the video department, so as a balanced camera then yeah it's great and that is what I look for, if you want the best if everything Also buy the P30 Pro & Pixel and carry around 3 devices
Design: I think this is where Samsung spent a chunk of time, with the Display & rearrangement, all be it most certainly Q's from Huawei but that's not a negative thing and I absolutely love what Samsung have done here. It's a stunning device.
My Honest opinion: I was complaining slightly that Samsung perhaps could of should of done more and I still stand with that in certain areas. These are in the camera software, perhaps that 90hz (yes I don't think this was possible, due to the S-Pen), but would have been a nice option, but when you look at it, its an iterative improvement, but the areas of focus have been done well, and here we have a stunning productivity device that will make many users happy, but leave some disappointed as expectation, left us without some of the little things we are seeing from others not here on the note.
After using it now for 5 days I fully appreciate a nice and solid device that covers most areas well, but like any device falls short in others. I'm very happy with my purchase and I hope you all are to
Please feel free to add to this, or add in constructive criticism, it's all appreciated, just be respectful, and don't disregard others opinions (unless they are just rediculous).
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Not too much to add here.
Really great package!
Terrible speakers
Worst cellular connection to date
Bloatware
tethering feature is broken/lags
Pretty much fantastic in every aspect, minus four:
- terrible battery life (the worst I've ever had to my opinion, compared to Mate 9, Note 4 and Xperia Z1...)
- no high refresh rate display (and still annoying OLED motion blur)
- slow/unsecure unlocking (UDFS/front camera)
- Samsung's "OneUI" software is good overall, but has still strong geographic differences (in term of app availability, see goodlock software for exemple), and doesn't allow you to tweak your terminal to the extent to it should be possible (Galaxy Theme store (yerk!) should basically be Substratum (lite) + Synergy))
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Terrible speakers
Worst cellular connection to date
Bloatware
tethering feature is broken/lags
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It is really amusing to see how some complain about mainly, battery, speakers, camera and signal, to the grade of "terrible", "worst" etc, I have no complain at all, I come from a note 8, which indeed was an excellent device, and this note10+ is way better, in all aaspects, I did not have the 9, but I have heard always that it was just a little increment over the 8, any way, I am really, really pleased with my note10+, the best device I have had
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It is really amusing to see how some complain about mainly, battery, speakers, camera and signal, to the grade of "terrible", "worst" etc, I have no complain at all, I come from a note 8, which indeed was an excellent device, and this note10+ is way better, in all aaspects, I did not have the 9, but I have heard always that it was just a little increment over the 8, any way, I am really, really pleased with my note10+, the best device I have had
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Ditto x10!
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And would you guys say note 10+ over note 10?
tileeq said:
And would you guys say note 10+ over note 10?
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As far as i'm concerned yes...
- battery life
- microSD
- TOF, even though still beta-like software for 3D scan, but works very well for blurring background photos (you can see it when comparing front cam and rear cam)
- larger screen, cause i love this (better for watching videos or multitasking)
I would always feel like i have a sub phone if i went note10 route but that's juste me
Downside is the weight of note10+, i find it kinda heavy in the hand.
Yeah, I absolutely love my note10+
I absolutely love my Note 10+. I wish I had pre-ordered, but I wasn't ready for an upgrade from my Note 8 yet.
I got the Aurora Glow (Snapdragon, Verizon US), mainly because it was the one that was readily available and I wouldn't have to wait. I thought I'd just slap a case on it and never have to look at it, but it turns out I love that crazy rainbow bastard and got a nice clear case. I'm averaging 7hrs of SOT (at highest resolution, no power savings, wifi/data, etc), I haven't had to "top up" during the day once since I got it. Sleep drain is almost non-existent...maybe 4-5% overnight (6-7hrs) with WiFi and bluetooth on. I do a lot of artwork on the fly, and this is even more of a workhorse than my Note 8 was. I do multi-layered (usually 12-20 layers) drawings in Medibang Paint at at least 600dpi and this glorious phone doesn't even stutter. AND (and I know a lot of you don't like it) I was psyched to see a screen protector pre-installed. I know it's a crappy one, but it was great to have while waiting for my "real" one to show up. Really small, but well-appreciated, inclusion. I don't even mind the loss of a headphone jack as much as I thought I would. My portable battery has the wireless charging built in (not that I've needed to use it yet), and I think the sound in the USB C headphones included is better than the ones I got with my Note 8.
My ONLY complaint is the camera. Photos look overly soft, and faces seem flattened out. My Note 8 took much better photos out of the box. At least, in my case, it definitely seems to be a software issue...because using GCam improves the photos dramatically. And it seems that Sammy has already released an update to address photo quality...I just have to wait for Verizon to push out the damn thing. I don't take pro photos or anything, 90% of my picture taking is my kids...but my Note 8 gave me much clearer photos of them running around than I've gotten from my 10+. That being said, I know there's a fix on the way so I'm not going to piss and moan too much about it. I look forward to really using the hell out of the camera once it's updated, especially night mode...I didn't have that on my Note 8.
All in all, nothing but love for this phone.
I perceive the photos to be better than those of my note8, yesterday an update mainly for the fingerprint and camera, became available for my note10+, I am yet to see what improvements it may yield
I was looking at a new Chinese flagship (Realme X2 Pro) but then got to play with Dex on a 10 - bought the Note 10+ dualSIM right there, coming from an S8+. Dex is just fantastic, on my Windows or Mac computers, with an additional 95W wall charger and a 100w USB C hub. Now the phone is fully integrated in my desktop workflow and part of the hub with other devices I own, and I love the ability to cut&paste from/to the phone from my main Windows machine. All other elements one comes to expect from a Samsung flagship are there of course, and video quality is excellent. Writing with the S-Pen on the Nebo App is enough for note taking - I can leave the iPad Pro at home for meetings. And Amazon Germany gave a unexpected $120 rebate, plus tax return from Amazon upon leaving the EU, got a great deal altogether. My S8+ lasted three years and thanks to this community is updated well, will now go to my wife.
3 Stars. The magic is lost. Nothing is special about the series anymore.
Call me jaded as someone who's owned every iteration since the Note 2, but this is not the best from the best that previous Note series enjoyed. Same cameras from S10. Would have liked a better tech that includes a seamless uninterruption of the screen. I can do without a social media whore cam or have a motorized selfie cam for those selfie whores. Also, could have used a speedier screen refresh rate found on the the cheaper One+. Otherwise, speed, battery life, features, all the best android has to offer. Nothing earth shattering and futuristic like the first time we saw the Note Edge or Note 5 or BT pen from note 9. Still has a hole in the screen. Still has a "just a refreshed design until next iteration" look. Screen size increased by a hair. Even diluted the brand by making a smaller Note. I usually go for the best but since I had the blue Note 9, I wanted something different and the Aura Blue is gorgeous but disappointed it only comes in 256gb, another ding against Samsung. Overall, 3 stars because the Note series is known for cutting edge and when you have a camera stolen from an older phone and when you decide to toss in a gimmicky AR camera that everyone used for the first minute and forget about but failed to work on the thing that everyone uses 90% of the time, the screen, like incorporate a 120 refresh rate or do away with the hole or notch, then you aren't living to the high standard that the Note series are known for and that its fanbase expects. You used to be able to say, look what my phone has that you don't. Reverse charging? woopty do. My S10 had that before you. 3 cameras? "Stereo" speakers? Well, my phone has a built in BT stylus. So, my cheaper Note 10 does too! *facepalm* We no longer have something special. Used to be we had it first and then it trickled to other devices. Now, it's the other way around.
The one and only phone, not a tablet, that has this unique feature, the spen, there is the "magic"
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The one and only phone, not a tablet, that has this unique feature, the spen, there is the "magic"
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Pay attention. You're wrong. We're reviewing the Note 10+. So this isn't the only phone with the s pen. If you pay attention, the diluted note 10 also has one as well as the upcoming note 10 lite. So it still stands, the magic is lost.
As this thread is about the 10+, I am referring to the note10+, so, you pay attention
winol said:
The one and only phone, not a tablet, that has this unique feature, the spen, there is the "magic"
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winol said:
As this thread is about the 10+, I am referring to the note10+, so, you pay attention
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Please check your private messages. Remeber folks this is a fun hobby for us all. There's never a need to get fired up and taking jabs and low blows. If you're starting to get heated just log off and go do something else or keep scrolling.
Let me preface this by saying I am picky about my phones and this is one of the worst I have seen in years! If you have an old phone I can understand some of the upgrade but here are my thoughts coming well staying with a Note 10+. Never bought and returned a phone this quick. Returning before it is even released on Friday!!
Let's start with the good, well somewhat......
Screen: Once again Samsung delivers a world class screen. Best in brightness, color accuracy, etc etc everything like normal that they always produce in their flagships. Now for the downsize, the infamous 120hz screen refresh rate. Not worth it here. Smoother scrolling, sure but barely. I honestly don't even mind the 1080p and 120 hz just the need for the 120hz on a phone is overkill. Was gaming smoother sure, do I game much on my phone, no not really. The 240 touch response I can tell more of a difference and a worthy difference then the 120 hz refresh
Processing power: Phone is fast, minus animations. Photo processing, night mode shots are a big difference. Much faster in that aspect. Wish we saw little more ram and more storage though at this price
Battery: 5000 mah in this device makes it a little thicker but in my short one day of use it stood up pretty well to transferring apps and everything over and hard use for a few hours last night. Couldn't kill it
and now the bad
Camera: throw all the numbers at it and it will be great.... well not so fast. Main shooter in 12 or 108 mp mode cannot focus on anything. Piece of paper on desk in front of you, good luck. Zoom a few feet away from you, also good luck. 5x/10x/30x zoom is better then Note 10+ of course but how often are you going to use this? Everyday? Once a week? Once a month? Still not great quality (usable) at 10x or 30x really so no point in my book. 5x is crisp but falls off too much after that for me to use. Wide angle is same as note so no real improvement here. Camera also seems to make everything more saturated then I like as well almost to the point of unrealistic. The one and only thing the iPhone can do well and the note seems to be closer to that realistic representation then the Ultra.
Design: not that the design is bad but feels a tad on the chunkier side. Rounder edges do help but does not feel as sleek as nice to hold as note or even s10. Thicker as well to house that battery and camera module. Also worried about how scratched the module bump will become after months of abuse.
UI: Let me first say I hate Android 10/Samsung UI 2.0, I am still using 9 and the Ultra reminded me why. App animations are slow (yes can fix in dev options but still), quick replying to text or message in status bar is not instant like prior android generations. Don't know if this is an android 10 or Samsung UI 2.0 problem but seems like it should be an upgrade not a downgrade
Price: $1400 is a lot even for 2020. That is also only for 128 gb and 12 gb ram model. So no upgrade to ram compared to Note and a loss of half the storage compared to entry level note. Plan was to trade in note 10+ and pay $800 and it isn't worth that tp be honest. Not even close. Only foreseeable upgrades are little brighter screen and zoom lens. The rest is a downgrade to me or the same.
I will continue to use note 10+ until Note 20 maybe? Needs to have something better for the money it is going to cost though