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Hi Guys - great phone which I've had a week or so now. Upgraded from the first Galaxy S.
Now I must admit to having very good eyesight (sometimes wish I couldn't see finer details!) and..
On white / grey images (download the various screen test apps to have a look for yourself)
The screen, when on a low brightness, is "muddy" and demonstrates a few vertical darker lines on the screen with mine showing quite a prominent one in the bottom right heading up about half way up the screen.
This is mostly visible when the brightness is at a minimum (regardless of auto or the powersaving options)
When the brightness is turned up it is barely visible, if at all... looks fantastic..
But.. at this point I preferred the screen on the Galaxy S which, when dimmed was more vibrant and didn't have this "problem"
Hands up who can see what I see? Any darker lines visible on your white / grey backgrounds? a side effect of this new subpixel arrangement? totally normal? some pixels not as bright in a row hence darker lines?
What do you guys think?
Cheers, B
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Could you take a pic or something?
ASAP yes (no camera ironically so will have to ask a colleague!)
hold menu and press power button for screenshot off the device.
Yeah, mine set to minimum brightness and has some line artifacts like when LCD supplied with low voltage. (low brightness setting)
Easily noticeable when displaying grey colors.
I'm also using Screen Filter app, setting brightness even lower, some black points around 0.3cm is exposed at night.
Not sure those points are affected by anti-scratch film though.
Hola
I can confirm that I see the same "line banding" effect when using the device with low brightness. Like others have mentioned I also use the free Screen Filter app to get even lower brightness levels especially when reading stuff in bed in the near dark.
I would think this is a side issue with having the Super AMOLED Plus type screen but I guess only a Samsung tech can confirm.
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hold menu and press power button for screenshot off the device.
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Taking a screen shot wont show anything.. its the screen not the image
@ OP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13444483#post13444483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065359
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062966
65" long exposure exposing some black spots.(digitally enhanced)
Lowest brightness + Highest brightness.
Wondering those spots are caused by screen protector or defective screen or limitation of current AMOLED's.
You can see there is some current leak.(It should be bezel-like black if it is ideally off)
http://img691.imageshack.us/i/93767661.png/
http://img69.imageshack.us/i/36284360.png/
Not sure I understand you cpu98!
Is there a consensus we all have this "problem" - i'm on the verge of taking it back for a refund and "monitoring things"
Anyone understand the tech / spoken to Samsung?
B
Not sure what those black spots are... is your camera messed up? There's spots on the right even off the phone...
Also yes, pure black for SAMOLED still produces SOME light, but it's almost indistinguishable to the human eye.
Take a picture of a dark grey image on low brightness and it should show the bands the best...
cpu98 said:
65" long exposure exposing some black spots.(digitally enhanced)
Lowest brightness + Highest brightness.
Wondering those spots are caused by screen protector or defective screen or limitation of current AMOLED's.
You can see there is some current leak.(It should be bezel-like black if it is ideally off)
http://img691.imageshack.us/i/93767661.png/
http://img69.imageshack.us/i/36284360.png/
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dinan said:
Not sure what those black spots are... is your camera messed up? There's spots on the right even off the phone...
Also yes, pure black for SAMOLED still produces SOME light, but it's almost indistinguishable to the human eye.
Take a picture of a dark grey image on low brightness and it should show the bands the best...
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That spot off the phone is on the wall not defective cam. As you can see photos are taken at different angle. And it is visible in naked eye.
Yeah I like its screen very much. That black issues are no problem in real use.
I'm very satisfied.
anytime I rotate my s2 in the notifications area I see a faint line that appears on the sides of the screen (usually 2 lines, one on each end, running parallel in respect to the orientation of the screen), which disappears slowly after a couple of seconds. is this a fault? or normal with these AMOLED displays?
mine does this too, as well as many other sgs2's. It's more of a ghosting effect rather than banding. I say it's normal and just a drawback of the super amoled displays.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
so, pretty much all s2s are affected because of the super amoled plus displays right?
KayvinM said:
mine does this too, as well as many other sgs2's. It's more of a ghosting effect rather than banding. I say it's normal and just a drawback of the super amoled displays.
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I'm not an expert but going by personal experience I would say yes. Although I have only noticed it happen when the brightness is low. Personally it doesn't bother me much.
i agree, it only at low brightness you see it along with yellow tint on left, predominantly on lower left (right-triangle shape)
this has to be software related
does anyone else have an explanation for the banding that appears and disappears?
Hello,
Im Using Amoled Smartphones since the Galaxy (i7500). They all were always showing at 100% Brightness for Black parts of a picture a true Black like the Display is OFF.
If you put the Brightness to 100% and go to an complete Dark Room and open an Black Picture you see some Gray/Yellow Tint on the Screen. You can compare this good by locking the phone to see the Screen OFF and than unlock it to view the Black Picture again. You should see a huge difference. Hope to hear from your experiences.
I've seen that already on the S1 when abusing it a a nightstand clock.
Best guess I've heard is that the (AMO)LED screen leaks some luminosity to other pixels in the background which is then visible as a very faint glow.
However I rather believe that the AMOLED are not truely off but rather get some leak voltage and thus have a very-very-very faint glow (like one photon per second xD )
That would explain the black spots most people seem to mind on AMOLED when on minimum brightness with a black screen; they are truely off or without insufficient leak voltagage (LED's requie a minimum voltage to work).
AMOLED production is somewhat complicated (very thin layer of silver as a power source and a control-layer) so I wouldn't be surprised if the above is true.
Nothing is perfect, especially not a rather new technology.
What else did you expect from a backlit display.
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What else did you expect from a backlit display.
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It's not backlit is the point.
Correct me if im wrong here but amoled is, by design, not backlit.
Sent from my LG-P920 using xda premium
Yeah so I was wondering why it does this little/ hard noticeable yellow/gray tint on a dark room...
There is no Backlight... Unfortunely i Sold my Galaxy S2 so I cant compare it.. But im Sure it wasnt like this
I have this on my gsiii and also on the Gnote... I think is due to the pentile screen
I had this on my Fascinate but realized it wasn't a big issue. Definitely more noticeable on my Gnex but it also has more pixels so that could be why you see more light. I wouldn't call it a problem because the majority of the time it's absolutely unnoticeable. Each pixel has so have some sort of voltage to be ready to react to changes. Turning off/on completely each time light is needed might waste battery.
P.S. I'm noob at displays but that's my theory.
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I had this on my Fascinate but realized it wasn't a big issue. Definitely more noticeable on my Gnex but it also has more pixels so that could be why you see more light. I wouldn't call it a problem because the majority of the time it's absolutely unnoticeable. Each pixel has so have some sort of voltage to be ready to react to changes. Turning off/on completely each time light is needed might waste battery.
P.S. I'm noob at displays but that's my theory.
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I was curious about this issue as well. It's my understanding that OLEDs do not produce any light in their inactive state.
Regarding your theory, I wonder if it's similar to plasma displays. Even though plasmas are capable of true black (they do not use a backlight) The individual plasma cells have better response times if they aren't fully discharged on blacks. So they have a faint glow that comes from the low power they are using to keep the pixel charged up and ready to go when a color change is needed.
This actually costs a little power though, rather than saving it. So if thats what they are doing, it is for screen quality reasons so that movies and other things look better.
Did some Googling and I couldn't find much information, but there is talk of delivering pre-charge voltage to the OLED pixels to improve response times. So it could be that they are indeed similar to plasma displays in that respect: Capable of true black, but the benefits of not using true black are too good to pass up.
Are you SURE the picture is actually true black? By that i mean pure 100% black in an uncompressed image? If not then you cant expect the phone to display true black. A JPEG of black may not be enough.
My screen it totally off when displaying true black.
I can confirm the screen showing a faint glow on S3 with a true black screen.
Use Firefox with Fullscreen extension (Chrome and the default browser don't seem to have fullscreen mode yet) and go to http://d4f.pf-control.de/black.html
That's rendered on the phone so we can expect it to be the blackest black an app can produce, however in a (very) dark room you'll see a very faint glow coming from the screen and you'll be able to see the black spots (truely black) that people keep complaining about.
The theory about it being a precharge voltage does indeed sound plausible since LED's have a certain reaction time which unfortunately cannot be compensated by e.g. Overdrive as is used in LCD screens.
Note that the S3's "black" is still far better than any LCD.
No mine is still jet black, no light at all.
Go to a COMPLETELY dark room and make sure the screen is actually turned on when on the website (not timed out).
Then take a long-exposure photograph of your phone (still make sure the screen is turned ON!).
I don't have a long exposure camera, but the room is completely dark and my eyes have adjusted, there is no light.
All sgs3 ( as sgs2) screens emit a very week glow on a black pictures ( with the screen on )
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
It would seem to me that the 'ink spots' many have are not overly dark spots at all, they are what the screen should be. My screen emits no visible light when displaying a true black image, at least nothing my eyes can see, even at the edge of my vision field where light cell are most sensitive. My screen is on maximum brightness.
My screen has no patches, no streaks, no spots, no pink or excessively blue tint. I guess i have a screen thats as near to perfect as they get.
yes there is very faint glow indeed making the screen a bit greyish instead of pitch black
Excuse me if I am being naive but where is real life use would this ever be a negative impact?
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Excuse me if I am being naive but where is real life use would this ever be a negative impact?
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no negative impact, but still raises a question "why so?"
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Excuse me if I am being naive but where is real life use would this ever be a negative impact?
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I don't think anyone is trying to paint it as an issue that needs to be resolved. It's more of an odd technical mystery rather than a real problem. The blacks are still extremely deep on an AMOLED, just like with Plasma it puts LCD to shame in that department.
Not sure where to ask this, so here goes. Picked up a Z Play for my wife and it's great. Then picked up a Z for myself and while it looks and runs great, there seems to be a definite green tint to the screen when viewed off-center. And I don't mean 30-40 degrees off, but as slight as 5-10 degree off center, in any direction and it has a definite green tint, regardless of brightness setting. Previous AMOLED phones for either of us never had issues until extreme angles, and her Z Play is far better, not turning green til about 40-50 degrees, which is what I would expect.
Is this common or an issue? It's only been a few days, so I can go change it if it's a known issue of any kind. I guess I can also go compare it to display phones.
Mine doesn't appear to have this issue, perhaps a slightly noticeable change when 40° off but not at 5/10.
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Mine doesn't appear to have this issue, perhaps a slightly noticeable change when 40° off but not at 5/10.
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Me neither, nothing remarkable happening when tilting it in either direction.
When the Moto Razr XT910 was new, there were many reports of varying panel quality problems, such as strong green or yellow tints
They did get new phones when they returned them, as it was a quality issue, could be the same thing now.
If I'm not mistaken, those with lots of green had field/cloud faults when viewing a black image in a dark room at full backlight, as they failed to reach zero brightness.
It was described as the pixels leaking electrons to surrounding pixels.
Viewing angles on the Z is worse than my old Moto X 2014 for sure, but it's probably due to the smaller pixels.
Nothing beats the old HTC One M7 though, that thing never faded, but it had an IPS screen.
However, in standard colour mode, it's heavily yellowish to reddish (some would call it warm colour temp)
In dynamic it's closer to white, but with a strong nudge to the blue spectrum.
Can't wait to get the custom colour temperature setting with Android 7.0!
I sent back an Mate 20 Pro because (with LG screen) I had intermittent data disconnection issues. I had no gluegate screen issues, the screen was fine. The replacement device has a BOE screen. In comparison to the LG screen, after a few days here are my observations:
- The screen has a greenish tint (not gluegate) when viewed from the side. View the screen at about 45 degree angle (left, right, top, bottom etc.) and the color changes.
- Brightness: the BOE screen I have seems less bright than the LG one.
- The screen also seems less sharp than the previous LG, I would describe it as a bit "grainy" or "noisy", not the pin sharp display you would expect at this resolution
- Low brightness: when the brightness slider is low (10% brightness or less), the grey text breaks up on a black background when scrolling. Here is how to reproduce the issue.
1. Go to Settings and select the BLACK background mode. All text is white or grey and the background is black.
2. Set the brightness slider to minimum
3. Select a submenu in settings (e.g. Battery) then go to a dark room (with brightness at minimum)
4. Scroll slowly up and down the screen in the Battery (or some other) settings menu
5. On my screen the light (white and grey) text breaks up into green/magenta components. When the scrolling stops the text is white again. It's like the screen can not keep up with the scrolling, can not refresh the pixels fast enough so the white text breaks up into various colours.
Anyone has experienced this issue on either an LG or BOE screen? Any feedback is welcome.
I am not pixel peeking. I noticed this behaviour while adjusting some of my settings on the new phone. I did not see this at the LG screen. Because my old phone has been taken back by the courier I can't do any parallel comparisons.
This screen is a BOE screen, serial number 18B08. on the latest 122 software version. Based on my subjective observation the LG screen was brighter and did not notice these low light issues (however I was not looking for it in all fairness). Update: now on 146 software update.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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Update (9 Dec 2018)
I went to a local store and took some comparison pictures / videos between store units and my BOE screen Mate 20 Pro. See them below. All videos taken at MAXIMUM screen brightness on white background to compare the quality (max brightness and colour shift) of both screens.
Here are links to 2 Youtube sample videos:
https://youtu.be/t_BSsJi0f1o - My unit vs a O2 store demo unit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUPe-z5ArfI - My unit vs a Three store demo unit (verified with LG screen)
Some images also attached.
The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
Wow dude, you don't know what you are talking about...
The green is totally defective and can be seen in many normal conditions!
The fact that it's emphasized by grey screen doesn't mean it cannot be seen.
I now have a BOE screen and cannot be happier, colors look excellent compared with my Galaxy S9+
LG green screen was crap. And I'm not biased towards LG, I have a very nice OLED 4K tv at home.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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Hello,
Thank you for the elaborate answer.
I don't have a problem with the unevenness of light or bleeding but lower brightness and grainier screen are not OK in my opinion. When I first opened up the first unit with the LG screen, it struck me how better it was than my SONY Xperia XZ Premium's screen, both in terms of perceived sharpness and luminosity. As a first impression.
The BOE screen however, shows much grayer and overall of inferior quality in comparison to the Sony. Might have an inferior screen on this Mate 20 Pro, I don't know, that's why I was asking for feedback.
For this price and being a flagship device having only an "acceptable" quality screen is not acceptable. Having so many posts online and cases of green screens it's a good possibility that there is something ongoing with these screens.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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Funny, I was sitting in a dark room with the screen set to grey and on the lowest setting and I was thinking, what the **** am I doing??? When would actually be doing this?? Probably never. I think some people are looking so hard for something that they are starting to see things.
I'm not doubting the there probably are some faulty screens out there, I had one right at the start too. But I've had an LG screen for a while now and it kinda looks green round the edges in that unnatural way of grey screen and low light. But I find it 10 time better than the grey washed out screen of the BOE. I had to turn the BOE screen brightness right up if I wanted to read in bed and the auto brightness was unresponsive.
Normal everyday use of the LG screen is 10 time better and the colours are just more vivid. I think I'm going to stick with LG
I found myself on Spotify with a really distracting green uneven smear all over my screen.... That wasn't a unnatural situation.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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biggest pile of rubbish ive ever read in the nicest way possible. to dismiss other peoples experiences just because you havent seen it is rubbish. my friend used my phone in the car at night ( i was using it for sat nav, is that normal enough?) they went on the spotify app to change the song then asked me why is the bottom half of my screen green. if thats not an unusual use case then no one can use their phones at night?
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beta199 said:
I sent back an Mate 20 Pro because (with LG screen) I had intermittent data disconnection issues. I had no gluegate screen issues, the screen was fine. The replacement device has a BOE screen. In comparison to the LG screen, after a day here are my observations:
- The screen has a greenish tint (not gluegate) when viewed from the side. View the screen at about 45 degree angle (left, right, top, bottom etc.) and the color changes.
- Brightness: the BOE screen I have seems less bright than the LG one.
- The screen also seems less sharp than the previous LG, I would describe it as a bit "grainy" or "noisy", not the pin sharp display you would expect at this resolution
- Low brightness: when the brightness slider is low (10% brightness or less), the grey text breaks up on a black background when scrolling. Here is how to reproduce the issue.
1. Go to Settings and select the BLACK background mode. All text is white or grey and the background is black.
2. Set the brightness slider to minimum
3. Select a submenu in settings (e.g. Battery) then go to a dark room (with brightness at minimum)
4. Scroll slowly up and down the screen in the Battery (or some other) settings menu
5. On my screen the light (white and grey) text breaks up into green/magenta components. When the scrolling stops the text is white again. It's like the screen can not keep up with the scrolling, can not refresh the pixels fast enough so the white text breaks up into various colours.
Anyone has experienced this issue on either an LG or BOE screen? Any feedback is welcome.
I am not pixel peeking. I noticed this behaviour while adjusting some of my settings on the new phone. I did not see this at the LG screen. Because my old phone has been taken back by the courier I can't do any parallel comparisons.
This screen is a BOE screen, serial number 18B08. on the latest 122 software version. Based on my subjective observation the LG screen was brighter and did not notice these low light issues (however I was not looking for it in all fairness).
Any feedback is appreciated.
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inn regards to this. the BOE screen seems to be less vivid if you had the LG phone before. however i had my S8 on standard or SRGB mode. (maybe it was called basic i cant remember) and to me the colours look fine. i cant say it looks less 'smooth' not sure what that means either and i think you hit the nail on the head. when you start to pixel peep youll see many flaws. even if they arent really there. if you look at the LG display as hard as you have looked at teh BOE, maybe you would have found something else. I know the whole display thing is annoying for the price but i took into account selling my s8 and selling the WAtch GT (which i am using at starting to like) into the price
I think low brightness usage of a screen is a valid scenario which should work properly without green issues. I am occasionally reading ebooks in the dark, at minimum or close to minimum brightness. I had a number of smart phones and they all worked fine with a pretty uniform screen. I am not looking for perfection, but low light performance is a valid usage scenario where smartphone screen have to deliver - especially top tier, expensive flagship models.
I have the LG screen and apart from the greenish tint on the curved sides when viewed in a dark room with grey background (low brightness), I really have no issues during the day when there is normal lighting. I've read several forums with other phone manufactures where this complaint seems to be common, clearly Huawei could have done better QC. For me at least this nuisance isn't enough to return the phone.
Hi The LG is very bad, did you see the anandtech review of the Mate 20 Pro
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13503/the-mate-20-mate-20-pro-review/7
enrique71 said:
I have the LG screen and apart from the greenish tint on the curved sides when viewed in a dark room with grey background (low brightness), I really have no issues during the day when there is normal lighting. I've read several forums with other phone manufactures where this complaint seems to be common, clearly Huawei could have done better QC. For me at least this nuisance isn't enough to return the phone.
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That makes sense. For me the overall brightness and sharpness is important as I am doing a lot of work outside surveying buildings. This is what I am apparently seeing in my BOE screen, the screen seems to be greyer and less bright than the LG one. But again, it might be an issue with my screen only - that's why I am looking for others' feedback.
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Hi The LG is very bad, did you see the anandtech review of the Mate 20 Pro
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13503/the-mate-20-mate-20-pro-review/7
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Thanks for sharing this review - it's so comprehensive and technical, without being too technical (if that makes sense).
On my 3rd phone with this being first BOE screen.
1st LG screen was utter crap, by the 2nd week at 50% brightness you could see the green around the edges on youtube videos etc... ( I would count that as most peoples use of a phone?)
2nd was much better but was still noticeable while using dark theme and dark backgrounds, which I do a lot. Main issue was I didn't want to wait for it to get worse like the first one.
3rd BOE - Much better screen. It is slightly less vivid but still plenty nice enough for me. Sharpness I have it set to FHD all the time and haven't noticed any issues at all. Only thing I did notice is there is a slight green tint viewed at certain angle, but pretty extreme angle which is unrealistic so doesn't bother me.
I don't think this is an issue that's specific to LG or BOE screens because I had this on my 2nd LG device. I thought it was because I was using YouTube vanced but obviously not. These screens are garbage.
I think OLED screens all have the problem to a certain degree. Just some are worse than others.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8146389
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Funny, I was sitting in a dark room with the screen set to grey and on the lowest setting and I was thinking, what the **** am I doing??? When would actually be doing this?? Probably never. I think some people are looking so hard for something that they are starting to see things.
I'm not doubting the there probably are some faulty screens out there, I had one right at the start too. But I've had an LG screen for a while now and it kinda looks green round the edges in that unnatural way of grey screen and low light. But I find it 10 time better than the grey washed out screen of the BOE. I had to turn the BOE screen brightness right up if I wanted to read in bed and the auto brightness was unresponsive.
Normal everyday use of the LG screen is 10 time better and the colours are just more vivid. I think I'm going to stick with LG
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Sorry but you are dead wrong. This does not remain this way. The LG panel shows the green after a few days even on 50% brightness.
The BOE screen is exactly as bright, clear and sharp as the LG and I know this because I had them side by side.
Don't spread nonsense. LG screen TEN TIMES BETTER? Shame on you.
For your information, Huawei admitted to EE on the phone that all the LG panels were in an early batch, and faulty. Good luck getting help when your LG panel goes bad, and it will.
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Sorry but you are dead wrong. This does not remain this way. The LG panel shows the green after a few days even on 50% brightness.
The BOE screen is exactly as bright, clear and sharp as the LG and I know this because I had them side by side.
Don't spread nonsense. LG screen TEN TIMES BETTER? Shame on you.
For your information, Huawei admitted to EE on the phone that all the LG panels were in an early batch, and faulty. Good luck getting help when your LG panel goes bad, and it will.
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No need to take that tone. We're all adults here so please don't act like we're back at school. So shame on you!!
It was just my opinion. I have both of them next to each other and there is a difference, I even posted pictures on another thread showing the difference in colour. I'm also not the only person to notice. Plus I've had my LG screen for 3 weeks now and it hasn't got any worse.
I mean jeez all these people getting het up, when it comes down to it, its just a phone.
I have a BOE screen as a replacement for my (slightly) faulty LG screen.
I've had other LG & Samsung OLED (both P-OLED and AM-OLED) screens on phones as well as many LCD screens.
I can honestly say that the BOE screen I now have is at least as bright as *ANY* other OLED screen I've had and pretty much as bright as the SuperBright LCD on my LG G7 Thinq.
The resolution of the BOE screen is also pretty bloody good; certainly no worse than it was on my LG screen'd original Mate 20 Pro.
I don't see any light bleed; only the "usual" colour shift evident on pretty much any OLED screen when viewed at an angle; and for me this phone hardware-wise is now pretty much perfect.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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I'm sorry but you made so many mistakes in your assertion. First the LG Display is by no means superior. The BOE display uses the new Synaptics driver that is light years ahead of the Unkown LG driver. I have meanwhile in my family the possibility to test the LG Display directly with my BOE display. The only thing I mentioned was that the colors were a little more vibrant on the LG. After adjusting some parameters my BOE display looked almost identical to the LG. But without the green tint. And your claim the green tint is not that visible under normal circumstances is totally rubbish. On my first mate 20 pro the green was visible under all circumstances. Not from the start, the issue progressed. I must admit Huawei handled my issue very good. I got from the start a very good BOE panel. And believe me if the green tint was anything normal, Huawei would never have exchanged the devices that easy.
My BOE Screen is great, clear, sharp nice and bright. Except for when the Power Genius app kicks in for Gmail, Chrome and Facebook.