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hi guys. im just curious how the video and pictures on the evo3d look compared to other 5 or 8mp cameras. are they sharp ect. how would the evo3d compare to say the iphone 4?
im in the market for a good camera phone
I personally feel the evo3d only takes great pictures sometimes - meaning it is hard to get good pictures.
The pictures tend to look better on the phone than when you look at them on a computer, where they tend to look more grainy when not in the brightest light. This feels like a step down from HTC's other offerings, which can look as good if not better than iphone pictures when pulled to your computer. I have gotten some fantastic pictures, but for the most part the camera has left me a bit wanting.
Playing around with 3d pictures is quite fun, and video recording is very good - particularly the audio, which was lacking in the evo4g.
eazye1984 said:
hi guys. im just curious how the video and pictures on the evo3d look compared to other 5 or 8mp cameras. are they sharp ect. how would the evo3d compare to say the iphone 4?
im in the market for a good camera phone
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It takes a much better picture than the Evo4G did. Much sharper looking, even with 3mp less.
However in low light it still gets grainy...the sensor can't help that, but the software can...but it doesn't. It does, however, take fantastic macro shots for a cell phone...surprisingly.
The 5mp cam on the NS4G I had for a few weeks was phenomenal. When I came back to the E3D it really made taking pictures with it seem pointless...and that's not even taking into consideration the .5-1.5 second shutter lag from when you push the button.
For a freakin' cell phone? It's fantastic. I've never used an iphone4 camera but I've only heard good things. But after seeing what a Samsung 5.0mp sensor/lens/software combo can do I am completely down on the E3D's camera. Granted it does 3D and it is a rather compelling effect...though the problems with the 5.0mp single-cam shots get even more pronounced in 3D at 2.5mp.
YMMV, etc etc etc. It is a cellphone after all.
EDIT: Also any shots with motion are pretty much ruined before you take them.
I agree with nhutpham, post number 2. The camera is not nearly what it should be. This phone revolved around its camera's, I mean come on its not called "Shooter" for nothing. 3D pics turn out good, still shots do anyway. But standard pics, thats a whole other ball game. Low light produces bad pics, even with the flash. Some pics will get a greenish tint to them (whites) when using flash. Rather then use all the "auto" settings I find setting things manually will result in better 2D pics. The device was not purchased by me for the camera though. I bought for the dual core processors Though now that I have my dual core I am wishing HTC would have stepped it up on the 2D camera
i think at stock the pictures look ok. but when you adjust iso,sharpness,exposure,contrast in the settings it makes them look much more vibrant and sharp.
i took a compartive shot of small rocks and the evo3d looked crisper and better overall compared to the iphone 4. so the camera cant be all that bad
Maybe this might help. I'm actually surprised at some of the pictures on here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1243765
Being a photographer myself, I am impressed with the camera... but not all of the time. It takes phenomenal pictures outside in a good sunny day and even in overcast. Take the camera inside in average lighting of just about anyone's living room when the sunlight isn't dominating the light, then I'd be reluctant to show it of.
The poorer the lighting, the harder it is to focus and the photos can get very grainy. HTC also chose to compress the photos quite a bit which affects the picture quality, but makes it easier on the phone and network to share and upload. This goes back to a previous comment that they look better on the phone than on a larger display - its the compression.
If you're willing to root and mod this phone, there is a camera mod in the CDMA dev forum for this phone with camera improvements which makes me that much more impressed with the camera. Although, I think all that was changed was the compression for photos and video.
If you are taking a still picture under good light they look really good. If you have kids and are planning to take any pictures of them forget it.
Let's just they are playing baseball and you want to take a picture of them at bat. They get up there and you click the shoot button. The picture is then shown to you for review and you say wait, who the heck is that. Well while you thought you were snapping a picture of your child, by the time the camera actually took the picture your child got a double, the kid after him grounded to third, and in your picture is the batter who was batting 2 guys after him.....Great picture of someone elses child and of course that kid moved so the picture is blurry as well.
Okay, maybe I am exaggerating a little. You would probably get the batter right after him and not 2 guys down in the lineup, but it would still be blurry unless he batted like a statue....
Green, but otherwise good
Ya unfortunately the shutter lag makes the phone worthless in taking non still images.
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The notes camera is by far the best I've had on a phone. There are plenty of camera apps out there that supposedly improves the camera. I'm no camera expert so I need input from someone who is. Do any of these apps really improve the camera or just add effects?
The ones I've heard are the best are camera 360 and vignette. Anyway, input will be appreciated
Thanks guys
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For me there all the same some add more effects. Stock cam looks great just need right lighting and a clean camera lens.
You can ask in the note forums. They would know what works best for that phone. Us 3D peons know nothing
Well i still use my evo3d quite a lot for taking pictures which is why I asked here
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sprintuser1977 said:
Well i still use my evo3d quite a lot for taking pictures which is why I asked here
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The phone takes great photos.
i am a professional photographer on the side from my "real" job... let me put it like this...
it is a small lens, a small sensor, small everything. it will never be DSLR quality as far as actual image quality goes. it is lacking hardware. and unless those apps are modifying the camera drivers built into the Linux kernel, they aren't doing anything buy adding effects.
the trick is to get a good photo editing app. that's where your pictures come to life. and again, with digital photography, EVERYBODY uses photoshop CS(x) after the fact - even (and especially) when shooting RAW images.
some photography theory for you, though, is this... what makes a photo a good photo? do people typically look at a picture and get a chubby over the hardware that went behind it? or is it the photo itself...
your photos will be better with some brighter colors, sharpening tools, and just some down and dirty photo editing with a good program to accentuate what you are trying to capture and show to the person looking at your pictures. having an artistic approach to taking pictures is what makes them good.. photo editing software helps you accomplish that.
Yep, unless your replacing the the actual hardware its just different effects...
Shot from my sharp shooter in 3d
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i am a professional photographer on the side from my "real" job... let me put it like this...
it is a small lens, a small sensor, small everything. it will never be DSLR quality as far as actual image quality goes. it is lacking hardware. and unless those apps are modifying the camera drivers built into the Linux kernel, they aren't doing anything buy adding effects.
the trick is to get a good photo editing app. that's where your pictures come to life. and again, with digital photography, EVERYBODY uses photoshop CS(x) after the fact - even (and especially) when shooting RAW images.
some photography theory for you, though, is this... what makes a photo a good photo? do people typically look at a picture and get a chubby over the hardware that went behind it? or is it the photo itself...
your photos will be better with some brighter colors, sharpening tools, and just some down and dirty photo editing with a good program to accentuate what you are trying to capture and show to the person looking at your pictures. having an artistic approach to taking pictures is what makes them good.. photo editing software helps you accomplish that.
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Well put. I tend to like my photos natural tho with no editing you get to see the true natural and the beauty it has. Rather then a shot that has been edited and no longer looks real. Everything in life has some flaws just like diamonds.
reaper24 said:
Well put. I tend to like my photos natural tho with no editing you get to see the true natural and the beauty it has. Rather then a shot that has been edited and no longer looks real. Everything in life has some flaws just like diamonds.
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this is true, its all about re-creating what you see with the naked eye. however, it is all dependant upon the photographer as well, and their taste. i take a little bit more of an artistic kind of approach to it... so, i think of it kind of like art. the picture being the canvas, and the post-editing like the paint i guess.
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i am a professional photographer on the side from my "real" job... let me put it like this...
it is a small lens, a small sensor, small everything. it will never be DSLR quality as far as actual image quality goes. it is lacking hardware. and unless those apps are modifying the camera drivers built into the Linux kernel, they aren't doing anything buy adding effects.
the trick is to get a good photo editing app. that's where your pictures come to life. and again, with digital photography, EVERYBODY uses photoshop CS(x) after the fact - even (and especially) when shooting RAW images.
some photography theory for you, though, is this... what makes a photo a good photo? do people typically look at a picture and get a chubby over the hardware that went behind it? or is it the photo itself...
your photos will be better with some brighter colors, sharpening tools, and just some down and dirty photo editing with a good program to accentuate what you are trying to capture and show to the person looking at your pictures. having an artistic approach to taking pictures is what makes them good.. photo editing software helps you accomplish that.
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Thank you, great info
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I will say that I like Camera 360. It's not optimized for our screen, but it takes nice photos. Images with my stock app were dark and unfocused, shooting the same thing a few seconds later with 360 they were brighter and clear. Give it a shot. <---pun
Just got the S3 today, and can't seem to figure out how to use HDR. On my HTC One X, when I use HDR, I just switch to HDR and take pictures, and the app will do it's thing and it's done.
With the S3, it takes a picture, and says "processing", but when I looked at the picture it just shoot 2 separate files, but they are not combined (HDR'd)...
I'm pretty sure I'm missing something here.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Just got the S3 today, and can't seem to figure out how to use HDR. On my HTC One X, when I use HDR, I just switch to HDR and take pictures, and the app will do it's thing and it's done.
With the S3, it takes a picture, and says "processing", but when I looked at the picture it just shoot 2 separate files, but they are not combined (HDR'd)...
I'm pretty sure I'm missing something here.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Well, as you probably know, HDR works by taking three (or more) quick pictures at different exposures -- underexposed, normal, and overexposed -- and then combines them so that you can get more dynamic range overall. i.e.: you get to see the detail in the shadows as well as the bright areas. Take some test pictures where there's very bright and very dark areas in the same scene for the best example.
The HDR version is the 1st picture, and you're right that samsung decided to leave the 2nd "leftover" normal image there, probably for before/after comparison. There's no setting to just nuke that 2nd pic though. (other hdr apps in the market btw).
Thanks for the explanation.
I guess, the result is not that great as I thought it was the unprocessed images. lol. I have to try again, but HTC One X takes great HDR without the extra "leftover" image.
Thank you again.
No setting to suppress saving of the non-HDR photo?
I came here to ask if there was a setting somewhere to tell it to NOT keep a "normal" photo with every HDR photo. (I remember the iPhone gave you this choice.)
Next question, has anyone ever figured out how many shots the SGS3 actually uses to make the HDR photo?
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Well, as you probably know, HDR works by taking three (or more) quick pictures at different exposures -- underexposed, normal, and overexposed -- and then combines them so that you can get more dynamic range overall. i.e.: you get to see the detail in the shadows as well as the bright areas. Take some test pictures where there's very bright and very dark areas in the same scene for the best example.
The HDR version is the 1st picture, and you're right that samsung decided to leave the 2nd "leftover" normal image there, probably for before/after comparison. There's no setting to just nuke that 2nd pic though. (other hdr apps in the market btw).
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Sorry...I'm not quite following. Are you saying "Just take 3 pictures of the same thing"...and that automatically makes an HDR picture (a 4th picture)?
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Sorry...I'm not quite following. Are you saying "Just take 3 pictures of the same thing"...and that automatically makes an HDR picture (a 4th picture)?
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He's saying that that's the way HDR works. It takes three different pictures at different settings and then combines them into one HDR picture.
That's the way it works with all digital cameras, not just the phone cameras. Software, such as The Gimp that have plugins for HDR do the same thing. Take one pic, create three duplicates, adjust the settings on the duplicates, then merge them back into one pic.
What is the best HDR app?
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He's saying that that's the way HDR works. It takes three different pictures at different settings and then combines them into one HDR picture.
That's the way it works with all digital cameras, not just the phone cameras. Software, such as The Gimp that have plugins for HDR do the same thing. Take one pic, create three duplicates, adjust the settings on the duplicates, then merge them back into one pic.
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Sure, I know how HDR works. I do a lot with my Canon and making HDR pics. What I don't know is this: Do I need to manually take 3 separate pictures, and if I do, it automatically makes a 4th picture that is HDR?
The post implied it made extra photos, if I take 3 pics I find no extra pictures; and all 3 look idential.
Now, of course doing it manual, you would need to take one; change exposure; take another; change exposure; and again. There's no way a person would get 3 exactly identically framed pictures having to do that. If that is the process, I can't imagine the picture is much good.
No you don't need to take 3 pics. One of the two you see is supposed to be the HDR image and the other is just a regular pic. The phone does it all for you.
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No you don't need to take 3 pics. One of the two you see is supposed to be the HDR image and the other is just a regular pic. The phone does it all for you.
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Hmmm....like I said, I am not seeing anything other than 1 picture when I take a picture...at least not in gallery.
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Hmmm....like I said, I am not seeing anything other than 1 picture when I take a picture...at least not in gallery.
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I always get two pictures when I use the hdr setting.
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BubZX said:
I always get two pictures when I use the hdr setting.
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... Sorry...I re-read the thread more slowly. For some reason I thought the OP was wanting to know how to turn on HDR...and so I thought the reply was just saying to take pics, that maybe it was normal.
Boy, was I down the wrong path.
Sorry folks. I got it now. I just looked and do see the HDR setting.
Thanks...
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I bought sony Z2 few weeks ago. It's a nice phone, it's very smooth and I'm very pleased. But it overheats, not as much in 4K(which I don't use so no bother for me) but Creative effect just puts too much stress on a battery and the camera very quickly shuts off because temperatures of the battery go over 46 Celzis which is probably a treshold temperature. I hope sony will optimize their code in future firmware updates for Z2. I don't change phones often, this was a step up from first! HTC Desire(more than 4years ago) and I'm hoping to get a few years of from Z2. I did tried a bunch of roms on desire, but Z2 is gonna wait, it is so smooth and ofcourse because of the warranty. If they don't fix the overheating problem, next time I'll try samsung or go back to HTC if they manage to make a decent camera which they never did make in any of their models(purple tint, poor sharpness, whashed colors etc. I'll stop here, don't wanna turn this into a flame thread, just my couple of thoughts)
Also, what's with the HDR in manual mode - it says it takes two pictures, but it takes only one and the picture is the same as the picture I take with HDR mode off. I see no difference... Or maybe I'm doing something wrong with HDR?
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Also, what's with the HDR in manual mode - it says it takes two pictures, but it takes only one and the picture is the same as the picture I take with HDR mode off. I see no difference... Or maybe I'm doing something wrong with HDR?
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It will take two pictures and then combine them into a single one. The two pictures have different exposure (one underexposed to get more detail in the shadows, one overexposed to get more detail in the highlights), and when they're combined, the result is a single image with greater dynamic range (that is, the range of brightness from dark to light) than a single photo could've captured. The greater dynamic range will sometimes make them look flat and one-dimensional, but with the right shot it can be a big improvement.
If you want to test it, look for a scene with very wide contrast from shadows to highlights. A good example would be a dimly-lit room with bright daylight outside the window. In a single exposure the room would be dark, the window completely white, or both. With an HDR exposure, you'll see more detail in the room and/or window.
Tnx for the info,I know how HDR works and what it does but I didn't see any difference in photos. I'll try more photos with more shadows in scenes.
I bought my wife and I this phone because we had a baby recently and wanted to get some nice pics. No matter what I do or what settings I change, the shutter is slow and the slightest motion will yield a blurry pic. Not the whole pic but anything that was in motion will be blurry. Any movement at all ruins a shot. Even sports mode and burst take blurry shots. So does pro mode.
I have held it steady before and after shots, used voice activation to reduce shake, and put it on stable surface. I have tried lowering resolution, changing storage location, turning off 3 sec pre-pic video, turning off HDR, killing all apps, restarting phone, clearing cache and so on and so on. And no I do not have the protective film on the lense.
I have seen others online complaining about blurry pics too but I am not seeing solutions. I came from a Note 4 and did not have these complaints. My wife has the same issues. It is unlikely we both got defective devices.
Somebody I know has the S8 and we took pics of each other waving to see results and theirs was clear and my pic of them had a blurry hand. This was in a well lit room.
Is this Note 8 camera just lousy? Try taking a picture of your hand waving or fingers wiggling. See mine attached. I was not moving that fast and press to track my hand. Is anybody else noticing this? Is there a solution?
The solution is to take photos in better light. Take that same photo with a full camera and no flash and see if there is any marked difference.
If there is not enough light for the conditions of the photo, your camera will have to open the aperture for a longer period. The longer it is open, the more blur you will see. This is especially true when moving something like a finger that moves 'quickly'.
Try the same thing in daylight and see where you stand.
Those previous shots were under a dining room light that is bright. It was well lit. If you are saying I can only take shots in full daylight and get a good shot, then this is not a good camera.
I took a photo in my office in a well lit room and got a blurry hand. I took the same shot at the same time using voice activation on my coworkers S8 and hers was not blurry. Mine is attached.