Does anyone know why Samsung handsets need carrier firmware installed in order for VoLTE to be active, yet other makes do not?
I'm curious about the reasons behind this?
For example the UK network EE which offers 4G calling quotes:
an EE pay monthly plan on one of these phones bought from any retailer including EE (please check when buying a phone from a non-EE retailer whether or not it supports 4G Calling, as we cannot guarantee phones purchased from third parties will support the feature):
◦Apple iPhone 6, 6 Plus, 6S, 6S Plus, SE, 7, 7 Plus, 8, 8 Plus, X ◦Google Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL ◦Sony Xperia XZ1, Xperia XZ1 Compact ◦Huawei P10, P10 lite, P10 Plus ◦HTC U11 ◦Blackberry Priv, Dtek 50, Dtek 60, KEYone ◦Nokia 3, 5, 8 ◦EE Hawk
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To use 4G Calling, you’ll need: •or one of these phones, bought directly from EE in-store, online or over the phone: Samsung Galaxy S8, S8+, S7, S7 edge, S6, S6 edge, S6 edge+
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Hi guys,
I'm thinking about getting a monthly plan from a local carrier. The plan offers your choice of a bunch of different phones. The phone I choose will be replacing my Samsung Galaxy J5 (2016 edition).
I will mostly use the phone for texting and Spotify, but I need the phone I choose to be as dev-friendly as possible. This means no locked (or very easily unlocked) bootloader, painless to install recovery like TWRP + root. Because after I root, of course I will be installing apps like Titanium Backup, Viper4Android, etc.
Here are the devices I can choose from the plan:
Sony Xperia XA Ultra
Samsung Galaxy J7 Prime
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
Samsung Galaxy A7 2017
Moto G3 Turbo
Moto Z LTE
Moto Z Play
LG Stylus 2
Huawei P9
Huawei Mate 8
Huaweii Y6 II LTE
Lenovo Phab 2
Now of course I can search and search the XDA forums to see how much support each model has, but I am hoping anyone who reads this thread 1: Owns one or more of the devices I listed, and 2: Has experience in rooting / modding them.
Thanks! <3
Edit: I realize that the carrier may or may not pre-lock the phones, but ignoring this, assuming I wanted to buy one of the above devices with cash and not on a carrier plan, which should I go for as far as dev-friendliness?
After flashing the Verizon model GS8 with a Sprint GS8 ROM, will it work on the Sprint network?
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You can not flash other provider's firmware on the phone. Won't work.
I have the same question. I'm buying a Verzion S8+ in hope to use with Sprint. I heard it's unlocked. On the other hand, Sprint put S8+ Verizon in the list of eligible phones for it's BYOD plan.
https://www.sprint.com/en/landings/bring-your-own-phone.html
Does it mean we can use Verizon rom directly with Sprint? Will it still support Sprint's Wi-Fi calling?
Eligible devices include (domestic versions):
Alcatel IDOL5
Apple iPhone 5c (Verizon only)
Apple iPhone 5s (Verizon only)
Apple iPhone 6
Apple iPhone 6 Plus
Apple iPhone 6s
Apple iPhone 6s Plus
Apple iPhone 7 (Verizon only)
Apple iPhone 7 Plus (Verizon only)
Apple iPhone 8 (Verizon only)
Apple iPhone 8 Plus (Verizon only)
Apple iPhone SE
Apple iPhone X (Verizon only)
Apple iPad
Apple iPad Air 2
Apple iPad Air
Apple iPad Mini 4
Apple iPad Mini 3
Apple iPad Mini 2
Apple iPad Pro
BLU S1/VIVO S
Essential Phone
Google Nexus 5 (16 & 32 GB – black/white/red) (Verizon only)
Google Nexus 5X (all versions)
Google Nexus 6 (32 & 64 GB – black/white)
Google Nexus 6P (all versions)
Google Pixel
Google Pixel XL
Google Pixel 2
Google Pixel XL 2
HTC One A9 (Sprint Version only)
LG X Charge
moto e4
moto e4 plus
moto g4
moto g4 play
moto g4 plus
moto g5 plus
moto g5s plus special edition
moto x pure edition
moto x4
moto z2 play
Orbic Wonder
Samsung Galaxy Note8 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S7 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S8 (Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile)
Samsung Galaxy S8+ (Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile)
Samsung Galaxy S8 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S8+ Special Edition
It will work only if you take it into a Sprint store and have them add the IMEI into their database. (It's a pain in the rear, but that's it, speaking from prior experience adding an IMEI to their database)
Just out the box, it will not work.
i had HD calls and volte in my Galaxy S9+ but i dont think it works on M20P
is it supported and if it is how do i enable it?
According to PDADB, the phone CAN do this...for both CN and Global versions 128/256:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi..._128gb_lya-lx9__lya-l29__lya-l0c__huawei_laya
I believe Huawei firmware HIDES the toggle of voLTE by default...but should work automatically when your device is connected over 4G LTE. My limited understanding is - by default it's already enabled, as its dependent on your location and carrier, too.
So, if you think it requires activating, which i don't think is the case, here's what P10 users did:
https://www.solvemix.com/index.php/android-smartphones/1778-huawei-p10-volte-making-calls-solved
If for whatever reason you think it's NOT activated or not working and want to visually SEE the toggle (and enable if disabled) then the following process requires ROOT access which you current'y don't have on your phone, unless you have a chinese ROM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUfmiDBPczw&t=6s
There, you can use an app like ES File Explorer and add a line of code in the BUILD.PROP file...It worked perfectly fine on my P10+ and my "VoLTE Calls" setting now shows and was automatically switched to ON.
Google and YouTube are your friends dude.
RoOSTA
VoLTE is activated by default on Mate 20 Pro, at least on the French ROM.
Can anyone on Optus in Australia confirm if VoLTE works via a non-Optus purchased Mate 20 Pro?
Follow here for more info.
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Follow here for more info.
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If this response was in relation to my Optus question, thank you, but I'm not sure how that topic that refers to T-Mobile US relates Optus AU.... I have actually been following that thread and in my opinion M20Pro VoLTE won't work in US due to the carriers not supporting Mate 20 Pro full stop.
VoLTE is still not a defined standard hence carriers must enable specific devices for VoLTE and a device often must have carrier specific firmware on the phone for it to work. I assume VoLTE does work with Optus since they are offering the phone but hoping for confirmation.
To be more specific, I'm looking to purchase a Mate 20 Pro soon. I'd rather buy from JB Hi-Fi for the (hopefully) speedier firmware updates direct from Huawei but if VoLTE is confirmed working with Optus, and the only way to get VoLTE working is via purchasing the phone from Optus, then I would do that.
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If this response was in relation to my Optus question, thank you, but I'm not sure how that topic that refers to T-Mobile US relates Optus AU.... I have actually been following that thread and in my opinion M20Pro VoLTE won't work in US due to the carriers not supporting Mate 20 Pro full stop.
VoLTE is still not a defined standard hence carriers must enable specific devices for VoLTE and a device often must have carrier specific firmware on the phone for it to work. I assume VoLTE does work with Optus since they are offering the phone but hoping for confirmation.
To be more specific, I'm looking to purchase a Mate 20 Pro soon. I'd rather buy from JB Hi-Fi for the (hopefully) speedier firmware updates direct from Huawei but if VoLTE is confirmed working with Optus, and the only way to get VoLTE working is via purchasing the phone from Optus, then I would do that.
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Hi ero,
This is just in response to some of the general questions in this thread.
What is Optus anyway?
Oh ok it's an Australian phone retailer.
Yeah that would be awesome if you could do that. Good luck man!!
Unless the Dual SIM has T-Mobile VoLTE, I'm screwed if I want the Mate 20 Pro though! lol Just sux. Part of me wants to say F it and just get it anyway, but not having access to like Band 12 sux. My area (Chicagoland) is about to get Band 71 as well from T-Mobile, and of course these phones don't have that either. FML! lol
roosta said:
According to PDADB, the phone CAN do this...for both CN and Global versions 128/256:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi..._128gb_lya-lx9__lya-l29__lya-l0c__huawei_laya
I believe Huawei firmware HIDES the toggle of voLTE by default...but should work automatically when your device is connected over 4G LTE. My limited understanding is - by default it's already enabled, as its dependent on your location and carrier, too.
So, if you think it requires activating, which i don't think is the case, here's what P10 users did:
https://www.solvemix.com/index.php/android-smartphones/1778-huawei-p10-volte-making-calls-solved
If for whatever reason you think it's NOT activated or not working and want to visually SEE the toggle (and enable if disabled) then the following process requires ROOT access which you current'y don't have on your phone, unless you have a chinese ROM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUfmiDBPczw&t=6s
There, you can use an app like ES File Explorer and add a line of code in the BUILD.PROP file...It worked perfectly fine on my P10+ and my "VoLTE Calls" setting now shows and was automatically switched to ON.
Google and YouTube are your friends dude.
RoOSTA
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I got this on..
But im not sure its the same the hd calls on S9+ sounded amazing
I really want to know how to enable it for Optus
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Hi ero,
This is just in response to some of the general questions in this thread.
What is Optus anyway?
Oh ok it's an Australian phone retailer.
Yeah that would be awesome if you could do that. Good luck man!!
Unless the Dual SIM has T-Mobile VoLTE, I'm screwed if I want the Mate 20 Pro though! lol Just sux. Part of me wants to say F it and just get it anyway, but not having access to like Band 12 sux. My area (Chicagoland) is about to get Band 71 as well from T-Mobile, and of course these phones don't have that either. FML! lol
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I'm in Chicago on T-Mobile (via MintSim) and Volte is not currently working on my Mate 20 Pro. But I also have a P20 Pro (which like the Mate 20 Pro isn't sold or supported in the USA) and Volte works fine on that phone with the same sim card. I had a similar issue with the Mix 2 (Volte) and Mix 2S (no Volte) but on Xiaomi phones there is a way to force enable Volte by entering a dial code. There doesn't appear to be anything similar with Huawei, unfortunately.
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I'm in Chicago on T-Mobile (via MintSim) and Volte is not currently working on my Mate 20 Pro. But I also have a P20 Pro (which like the Mate 20 Pro isn't sold or supported in the USA) and Volte works fine on that phone with the same sim card. I had a similar issue with the Mix 2 (Volte) and Mix 2S (no Volte) but on Xiaomi phones there is a way to force enable Volte by entering a dial code. There doesn't appear to be anything similar with Huawei, unfortunately.
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my 10 pro has it but my 20 pro doesnt. Same tmo usa here. im going back tothe 10 pro as the 20 pro is going back to clove.
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I'm in Chicago on T-Mobile (via MintSim) and Volte is not currently working on my Mate 20 Pro. But I also have a P20 Pro (which like the Mate 20 Pro isn't sold or supported in the USA) and Volte works fine on that phone with the same sim card. I had a similar issue with the Mix 2 (Volte) and Mix 2S (no Volte) but on Xiaomi phones there is a way to force enable Volte by entering a dial code. There doesn't appear to be anything similar with Huawei, unfortunately.
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Man, how many subsidiaries does T-Mobile have now?? lol They just bought Metro PCS too (now it will be called T-Mobile "Metro").
Yeah I just verified in the T-Mobile forum that the L29 Dual SIM ALSO DOESN'T have VoLTE either on T-Mobile. F'ing sux!!
Yeah I had verified last week that the P20 Pro has it on T-Mobile, but at this point I'd prefer to have the newer model, or just wait until the P30 Pro comes out next spring. Hopefully THAT has VoLTE AND Band 71 too!!!
I'm so tired of having to always check on this for unlocked phones. It just ends up limiting my options, which I really DON'T appreciate, at all.
Really? Wow. I WISH Sony and Huawei had that force enable code for VoLTE too. That would be awesome! I've noticed (and confirmed) that all 2018 locked phones from T-Mobile still have VoLTE, but it's been removed from the settings and "baked" in, so you can't turn it off. Of course you can still make a call and verify you have it as the call of course stays in 4G LTE the entire time. But yeah.........that's the story with the S9+ which my cousin has, the OnePlus 6T which I just bought from them. I was about to complain to T-Mobile lol but then I saw something on their site that explained all that.
I just really resent that I have to choose between the #1 camera phone and if I want great reception or not on my phone. It shouldn't be that way. Not fair at all. And I know it's all b/c our government thinks they and ZTE are spying on us. But I simply haven't seen enough proof to verify any of that.
No VoLTE support from Telstra in Australia either. I had it enabled on on my Pixel XL (stock unbranded firmware), which is the same sim card that is now in my Mate 20 Pro, but yeah no dice! Telstra has a list of mobiles that they currently support but it's only phones that they currently sell.
Apple iPhone 6 onwards, Apple Watch 3 onwards
Samsung Galaxy devices, S7 onwards, Note 5 onwards, A5 onwards
Google Pixel devices
LG devices G5 onwards
Telstra Signature Premium & Enhanced devices
Sony devices Xperia Z5 onwards
So I really have my doubts whether they will ever support Huawei phones. Which is really annoying because I was just starting to really love RCS messaging on my Pixel.
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Man, how many subsidiaries does T-Mobile have now?? lol They just bought Metro PCS too (now it will be called T-Mobile "Metro").
Yeah I just verified in the T-Mobile forum that the L29 Dual SIM ALSO DOESN'T have VoLTE either on T-Mobile. F'ing sux!!
Yeah I had verified last week that the P20 Pro has it on T-Mobile, but at this point I'd prefer to have the newer model, or just wait until the P30 Pro comes out next spring. Hopefully THAT has VoLTE AND Band 71 too!!!
I'm so tired of having to always check on this for unlocked phones. It just ends up limiting my options, which I really DON'T appreciate, at all.
Really? Wow. I WISH Sony and Huawei had that force enable code for VoLTE too. That would be awesome! I've noticed (and confirmed) that all 2018 locked phones from T-Mobile still have VoLTE, but it's been removed from the settings and "baked" in, so you can't turn it off. Of course you can still make a call and verify you have it as the call of course stays in 4G LTE the entire time. But yeah.........that's the story with the S9+ which my cousin has, the OnePlus 6T which I just bought from them. I was about to complain to T-Mobile lol but then I saw something on their site that explained all that.
I just really resent that I have to choose between the #1 camera phone and if I want great reception or not on my phone. It shouldn't be that way. Not fair at all. And I know it's all b/c our government thinks they and ZTE are spying on us. But I simply haven't seen enough proof to verify any of that.
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TMobile doesn't own MintSim. MintSim is a budget MVNO that pays for use of the TMobile network. I don't really think TMobile is blocking access to Volte for the Mate 20 Pro for political reasons either or they would have done the same thing to the P20 Pro. The fake controversy involving our president and Huawei happened before the Mate 10 came out and there's no question that it was politically motivated nonsense or Canada, the United Kingdom and all of Europe wouldn't allow Huawei phones to be sold by any carrier in the country who wants to offer them.
OnePlus and Blue are the only Chinese phone brands that have ever been caught putting spyware on phones sold in the United States. One Plus has been caught multiple times. Do you see any action being taken against either brand by the White House?
Volte compatibility with TMobile could be fixed in a software update from Huawei but since they are no longer selling their phones here I wouldn't count on it.
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TMobile doesn't own MintSim. MintSim is a budget MVNO that pays for use of the TMobile network. I don't really think TMobile is blocking access to Volte for the Mate 20 Pro for political reasons either or they would have done the same thing to the P20 Pro. The fake controversy involving our president and Huawei happened before the Mate 10 came out and there's no question that it was politically motivated nonsense or Canada, the United Kingdom and all of Europe wouldn't allow Huawei phones to be sold by any carrier in the country who wants to offer them.
OnePlus and Blue are the only Chinese phone brands that have ever been caught putting spyware on phones sold in the United States. One Plus has been caught multiple times. Do you see any action being taken against either brand by the White House?
Volte compatibility with TMobile could be fixed in a software update from Huawei but since they are no longer selling their phones here I wouldn't count on it.
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Oh ok. Yeah I don't know what the real story is. Maybe Huawei got the P20 Pro certified but decided not to do it for the Mate 20 Pro cuz it lost confidence in it selling well in the U.S.?
No I haven't seen any action. Only Huawei & ZTE have been named. And then I read that ZTE paid Trump $500 million as an investment in some new hotel resort he's opening up IN CHINA and then suddenly after that he decided they were no longer a threat. lol F'ing politics!!
Yeah I don't think the Mate 20 Pro will EVER get that update. lol So for now I'll happily keep my T-Mo OnePlus 6T with modded GCam app (aka same software used on the Pixel phones) and see what Huawei (and Sony) do in 2019.
This comparison vid is interesting.
To me, it seems that the Pixel 3 is better for daytime shots and tends to be seemingly more color accurate as well, while the Mate 20 Pro wins out for night shots. But Pixel 3 has a ****ty battery and I'm not big on its looks, and the Mate 20 Pro.............no VoLTE no access to Band 12 during calls, and also no Band 71. Such BS!!
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Oh ok. Yeah I don't know what the real story is. Maybe Huawei got the P20 Pro certified but decided not to do it for the Mate 20 Pro cuz it lost confidence in it selling well in the U.S.?
No I haven't seen any action. Only Huawei & ZTE have been named. And then I read that ZTE paid Trump $500 million as an investment in some new hotel resort he's opening up IN CHINA and then suddenly after that he decided they were no longer a threat. lol F'ing politics!!
Yeah I don't think the Mate 20 Pro will EVER get that update. lol So for now I'll happily keep my T-Mo OnePlus 6T with modded GCam app (aka same software used on the Pixel phones) and see what Huawei (and Sony) do in 2019.
This comparison vid is interesting.
To me, it seems that the Pixel 3 is better for daytime shots and tends to be seemingly more color accurate as well, while the Mate 20 Pro wins out for night shots. But Pixel 3 has a ****ty battery and I'm not big on its looks, and the Mate 20 Pro.............no VoLTE no access to Band 12 during calls, and also no Band 71. Such BS!!
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Pixel phones have terrible build quality and lots of problems you mostly don't find out about unless you go to the official Google Pixel Support Site. They cost twice what they should at launch. I would steer clear of Pixel Phones or at least go to the official Google site and read owner comments. Owners are frequently shocked by the poor quality and many serious issues since they read nothing but fantastic things in places like XDA and Android Authority.
I learned this the hard way personally after having been a huge Nexus fan but the Pixel Phones feel much less premium than the Nexus phones in terms of build quality and design and list for twice as much.
The Pixel XL ran so hot Google support strongly suggested using it without a case and the phones suffered in very large numbers from permanent hardware failure dubbed the black screen of death which was comparable to the bootloop of death on the Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P.
XDA, Android Authority and Android Police have never written a single word about those problems.
The Pixel 2 had a problem from launch where taking pictures would crash the phone, requiring a reboot. XDA, Android Authority and Android Police didn't write about the problem until 8 months after launch--when Google officially acknowledged the issue and released a software fix.
The oleophobic screen coating on the Pixel 2XL display (which is what prevents oil smudges and difficult to clean fingerprints on smartphone displays) started to wear off after less than 6 months of use. I have never owned any phone where that ever happened and the Pixel 2XL is supposedly a $1000 premium phone.
Those are only a few examples.
jhs39 said:
Pixel phones have terrible build quality and lots of problems you mostly don't find out about unless you go to the official Google Pixel Support Site. They cost twice what they should at launch. I would steer clear of Pixel Phones or at least go to the official Google site and read owner comments. Owners are frequently shocked by the poor quality and many serious issues since they read nothing but fantastic things in places like XDA and Android Authority.
I learned this the hard way personally after having been a huge Nexus fan but the Pixel Phones feel much less premium than the Nexus phones in terms of build quality and design and list for twice as much.
The Pixel XL ran so hot Google support strongly suggested using it without a case and the phones suffered in very large numbers from permanent hardware failure dubbed the black screen of death which was comparable to the bootloop of death on the Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P.
XDA, Android Authority and Android Police have never written a single word about those problems.
The Pixel 2 had a problem from launch where taking pictures would crash the phone, requiring a reboot. XDA, Android Authority and Android Police didn't write about the problem until 8 months after launch--when Google officially acknowledged the issue and released a software fix.
The oleophobic screen coating on the Pixel 2XL display (which is what prevents oil smudges and difficult to clean fingerprints on smartphone displays) started to wear off after less than 6 months of use. I have never owned any phone where that ever happened and the Pixel 2XL is supposedly a $1000 premium phone.
Those are only a few examples.
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Yeah I won't buy Pixel ever I think. I have a friend who bought the 3 XL and returned it b/c he said battery life was awful. GSM Arena confirmed this on at least the 3 (69 hours, ouch!).
I've heard some bad things about the Pixels, but WOW! You have really opened my eyes here jhs! Thank you for sharing this information.
I will just continue to use my new T-Mo 6T with GCam mod. I'm very happy with the phone overall! Next year I will very likely (though not def) upgrade to either the Huawei P30 Pro, or else any of the following are possible: Sony Xperia XZ4 Premium, Samsung S10+, maybe iPhone too, or else OnePlus 7. We shall see. Right now I'm siding towards the P30 Pro.
I WOULD'VE prob bought the Mate 20 Pro if it had T-Mo VoLTE (it doesn't, unlike older P20 Pro) and preferably also Band 71, which T-Mobile is about to deploy all over Chicagoland (where I live) by year's end.
Purchased from OP US website, but it's not carrier activated or custom logo'd.
(Long story short- bought last year as upgrade to 8T but sock-drawered it waiting for 6 months to finish elapsing for 8T unlock, then news came out re 11's better specs & January release...)
Last night turned on 10T no sim \ on Samsung hotspot & was presented in order: ~ 750mb security & fixes\stability update, OS 13 {4½gb), then another update ~ 650mb.
None had the usual T-Mobile is presenting you a necessary update message & phone has no T-Mo apps or splash screen (in contrast to previous OP models N10 & 8T). And T-Mo hasn't yet released 13 upgrade for any handset 8\9\10. Model# remains cph2417.
So I'm assuming this time OP not selling carrier-locked models(folks had problems using 9 on Verizon) \ if I'd activated 10T, T-Mobile would've foisted their firmware \ locked phone \ would still be waiting on 13 upgrade?
Hhhmmm...
CPH2417 is not the T-Mobile model, it's the factory unlocked U.S. model, meaning you would have gotten those updates regardless if you were using a T-Mobile SIM card or not, CPH2419 is the T-Mobile branded 10T, that one has not officially received OOS 13, neither has their 10 Pro, 9 Series, or 8 Series.
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CPH2417 is not the T-Mobile model, it's the factory unlocked U.S. model, meaning you would have gotten those updates regardless if you were using a T-Mobile SIM card or not, CPH2419 is the T-Mobile branded 10T, that one has not officially received OOS 13, neither has their 10 Pro, 9 Series, or 8 Series.
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Correct. I'm surprised OnePlus Store didn't sell the T-Mo 2419, unlike in the past.
And fwiw read today that 11 won't be sold by the carrier.
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Correct. I'm surprised OnePlus Store didn't sell the T-Mo 2419, unlike in the past.
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I'm surprised they changed the last number from a 5, to a 7 lol. Since the 7 Pro, the model number ending in 5 always meant U.S. model, and 7 always meant T-Mobile model.
And fwiw read today that 11 won't be sold by the carrier.
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Wait really? That's good to hear, hopefully this means the 11 and future models are safe from permanent bootloader locks, I still won't upgrade from my 9 Pro, which is a true flagship from OnePlus, plus it's the last model with Custom ROM support, and MSM Tool, not to mention mmWave 5G.
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I'm surprised they changed the last number from a 5, to a 7 lol. Since the 7 Pro, the model number ending in 5 always meant U.S. model, and 7 always meant T-Mobile model.
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Hopefully it's because OnePlus tired of T-Mo upgrade delays. Although to be fair, that intransigence helped for Android 12.
I also hope that T-Mo doesn't lock 11 during its activation.
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Wait really? That's good to hear, hopefully this means the 11 and future models are safe from permanent bootloader locks, I still won't upgrade from my 9 Pro, which is a true flagship from OnePlus, plus it's the last model with Custom ROM support, and MSM Tool, not to mention mmWave 5G.
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Agreed. Although with 11 having the latest Snapdragon we're getting up to triple 5G Carrier Aggregation, UFS 4, LPPDR 5... and all those combine to use lots less battery & run cooler (beside the multi-gig download speeds).
Plus from me, coming from the 10T, they're re-adding everything removed from your model: adaptive refresh down to 1, QHD, notification slider button...
The only critiques:
A. charger downgraded from 150\125 to 100\80 depending on model. For me that 10T brick charges 8T quicker (which comes with 80\65W version).
B. 512 gb variant nowhere to be seen in OP Store.
C. No e-Sim yet?
I used to do the custom roms back in Cyanogen days, but today I have too many finance, \ betting \ work apps- plus Samsung Pay on Galaxy Watch (managed from Android phone app) I don't want trouble with.
Maybe I'm just being too ignorant or lazy about today's custom Roms.
All the best.
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Hopefully it's because OnePlus tired of T-Mo upgrade delays. Although to be fair, that intransigence helped for Android 12.
I also hope that T-Mo doesn't lock 11 during its activation.
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Activation? What do you mean? Will the 11 now start "activating" itself upon first setup?
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Agreed. Although with 11 having the latest Snapdragon we're getting up to triple 5G Carrier Aggregation, UFS 4, LPPDR 5... and all those combine to use lots less battery & run cooler (beside the multi-gig download speeds).
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Yea that's one thing I'm tempted about the 11, the 5G support is insane, I'm jealous it has official N77 C-Band 5G support for Verizon, here on my 9 Pro, it has it, but I have to have root to enable it, plus I don't get the 5G UW icon. Not to mention battery life is atrocious on my 9 Pro, I usually get around 3 and a half hours of SOT. But then I remember no MSM Tool, no custom ROM support, so it will die on Oxygen OS 17.
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Plus from me, coming from the 10T, they're re-adding everything removed from your model: adaptive refresh down to 1, QHD, notification slider button...
The only critiques:
A. charger downgraded from 150\125 to 100\80 depending on model. For me that 10T brick charges 8T quicker (which comes with 80\65W version).
B. 512 gb variant nowhere to be seen in OP Store.
C. No e-Sim yet?
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A. Don't forget that the 10T charger is also a 45W PD charger, same with the U.S. 10 Pro charger, the new 11 charger is the same 80w charger found in the international 10 Pro, and is not PD compatible.
B. I bet it's gonna be an exclusive color down the line.
C. U.S. and EU models do have eSIM, and apparently dual nano SIM? Not sure how accurate that is.
horsecharles said:
I used to do the custom roms back in Cyanogen days, but today I have too many finance, \ betting \ work apps- plus Samsung Pay on Galaxy Watch (managed from Android phone app) I don't want trouble with.
Maybe I'm just being too ignorant or lazy about today's custom Roms.
All the best.
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Everything you just mentioned (except Samsung Pay, don't have a Samsung Watch, I have a Fossil Gen 5) worked for me when running a custom ROM, I'm currently rooted on my OnePlus 9 Pro running Oxygen OS 13 F.20, and it all works, thanks to Universal SafetyNet Fix magisk module, plus it makes my WideVine L1, so I get 4K streaming. (Peep the screenshots).
rmendez011 said:
Activation? What do you mean? Will the 11 now start "activating" itself upon first setup?
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No. I meant that when I take phone to T-Mobile, hopefully they won't lock it when providing the SIM \ service.
rmendez011 said:
Yea that's one thing I'm tempted about the 11, the 5G support is insane, I'm jealous it has official N77 C-Band 5G support for Verizon, here on my 9 Pro, it has it, but I have to have root to enable it, plus I don't get the 5G UW icon. Not to mention battery life is atrocious on my 9 Pro, I usually get around 3 and a half hours of SOT. But then I remember no MSM Tool, no custom ROM support, so it will die on Oxygen OS 17.
A. Don't forget that the 10T charger is also a 45W PD charger, same with the U.S. 10 Pro charger, the new 11 charger is the same 80w charger found in the international 10 Pro, and is not PD compatible.
B. I bet it's gonna be an exclusive color down the line.
C. U.S. and EU models do have eSIM, and apparently dual nano SIM? Not sure how accurate that is.
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Wait. I thought my 8T charger was 65W(Int. 80), my 10T 125(150 Europe). Am I confusing or misunderstanding the numbers?
rmendez011 said:
Everything you just mentioned (except Samsung Pay, don't have a Samsung Watch, I have a Fossil Gen 5) worked for me when running a custom ROM, I'm currently rooted on my OnePlus 9 Pro running Oxygen OS 13 F.20, and it all works, thanks to Universal SafetyNet Fix magisk module, plus it makes my WideVine L1, so I get 4K streaming. (Peep the screenshots).
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Thank you so much for this! I'll really look for this with the 11 if it becomes possible (if the OP Fold coming later this year doesn't tempt another trade-in ROTFL).
Does anyone know what bands make up T-Mobiles 5G UC on newer devices and if LGs V60 is capable? Or maybe has it with Android 13 update? I traded in my LG to get a Google Pixel 7 Pro for free and am missing the audio features. I found a sealed new in box on eBay and have it coming in the mail just waiting. I find myself always drawn back to LG, it's more fluid than Samsungs I've used and different features draws me away from the Pixel back to it. I even have a Samsung S23 Ultra that is laying on my nightstand since I have the Pixel.