Dear members/owners!
I am considering buying the Mate 10 Pro or Honor View 10.
One thing that keeps me from the purchase is the lack of front reader on the Mate 10 Pro.
Basically, I have fallen in love with the P10 Pro's front reader's gestures. It's so great to get all that extra screen estate. But, if there is a workaround/solution for the Mate 10 Pro, I am sold. (The AMOLED panel means better battery life, it has +250mAh juice, and it also has a barometer and a better GPS and OIS.)
I saw a Youtube vid about the Oreo EMUI, that you can place this little circle on the screen, and control the device through that. (I.e.: return to homescreen, etc.)
My question is:
- Is this circle the only way of alternative controls? Are there others?
- Can you use a PIE control (with or without root?). If you don't know what is it, it's a program that hides the bottom navbar, and you slide up your finger from bottom to get a virtual controller. It worked amazing on my G Pro 2.
- I know the fingerprint sensor can pull down the notification bar, but can it do more?
Thank you all!
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If somebody wants to buy Redmi Note 3 Snapdragon, maybe this pros and cons can help.
This pros and cons are from my point of view, from my experience and needs from one smartphone.
After 2 weeks of usage. (Latest Global ROM)
Pros:
- Display (when you are inside, nice colors and sharpness)
- Performance (nice and smooth in day to day use, 78k on antutu, more than S6,Z5,Nexus6..)
- Speaker and Headphone out
- Battery life (average usage on wifi messenger, instagram, viber, browser and bluetooth music streaming.. Getting 8h+ on screen time)
- Camera (but only for social networks)
- Slot for SD Card
- Fast fingerprint sensor
Cons:
- Camera (when you put captured images on PC or zoom in you can see whats going on)
- Lack of Optical image stabilisation
- Display (when you are outside and wearing sunglasses you almost can't see anything on screen)
- Notification LED (tiny and dark)
- MIUI restrictions for font change and theme customization
- Lack of 2.0 quickcharge
Thats it for now.
fgermne said:
If somebody wants to buy Redmi Note 3 Snapdragon, maybe this pros and cons can help.
This pros and cons are from my point of view, from my experience and needs from one smartphone.
After 2 weeks of usage. (Latest Global ROM)
Pros:
- Display (when you are inside, nice colors and sharpness)
- Performance (nice and smooth in day to day use, 78k on antutu, more than S6,Z5,Nexus6..)
- Speaker and Headphone out
- Battery life (average usage on wifi messenger, instagram, viber, browser and bluetooth music streaming.. Getting 8h+ on screen time)
- Camera (but only for social networks)
- Slot for SD Card
- Fast fingerprint sensor
Cons:
- Camera (when you put captured images on PC or zoom in you can see whats going on)
- Lack of Optical image stabilisation
- Display (when you are outside and wearing sunglasses you almost can't see anything on screen)
- Notification LED (tiny and dark)
- MIUI restrictions for font change and theme customization
- Lack of 2.0 quickcharge
Thats it for now.
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I agree with your point of view and i will share with you little tricks to optimize cons parts
1.camera----->install Google camera from Play Store;you will get a better performance&quality
2.display:a)set colors to "cool"
b)set contrast to"increased contrast"
3.MIUI deep customization:a)turn off internet on the device
b)clear data from theme app(don't worry,you will don't lose any previously downloaded theme)
c)open theme app with internet off and go to desired category of customization
d)turn on internet and you will be able to download whatever you want:boot skins,lock screens,icons,etc
4.notification LED--->you can change LED color
Luiggi79 said:
I agree with your point of view and i will share with you little tricks to optimize cons parts
1.camera----->install Google camera from Play Store;you will get a better performance&quality
2.display:a)set colors to "cool"
b)set contrast to"increased contrast"
3.MIUI deep customization:a)turn off internet on the device
b)clear data from theme app(don't worry,you will don't lose any previously downloaded theme)
c)open theme app with internet off and go to desired category of customization
d)turn on internet and you will be able to download whatever you want:boot skins,lock screens,icons,etc
4.notification LED--->you can change LED color
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Thank you on advice!
1. will try again. I have tried with google camera first day but results were almost the same.
2. Still can't see outside when it's sunny and wearing sunglasses.
Redmi Note 3 Mediatek version have 30% brighter/better screen on sunny day situations.
Xiaomi said that they have changed "screen pixel technology" on Snapdragon version and now it sucks on sunny days unfortunately.
3. Worked!
4. Any color, LED light is small and dark.. they should put bigger or brighter LED light.
fgermne said:
Thank you on advice!
1. will try again. I have tried with google camera first day but results were almost the same.
2. Still can't see outside when it's sunny and wearing sunglasses.
Redmi Note 3 Mediatek version have 30% brighter/better screen on sunny day situations.
Xiaomi said that they have changed "screen pixel technology" on Snapdragon version and now it sucks on sunny days unfortunately.
3. Worked!
4. Any color, LED light is small and dark.. they should put bigger or brighter LED light.
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Actually i used mediatek version and snapdragon version of this Phone, snapdragon variant is better under Sun light. You are not able to see with sunglasses it is true but the colours on screen will be lightened in snapdragon variant. It is called as sunlight technology and it works when you choose automatic contrast in screen settings :good:
so i just upgraded from an old lg optimus 4x hd phone (android 4.0.3) to a new xiaomi redmi 4 prime (android 6.0.1) and what is annoying me most is a strange software effect filtering all input motion from the touchscreen.
for example when im trying to scroll in settings menu, but moving the finger slightly up and down, the motion is getting filtered completely. when trying to scroll slowly the lag/filter is most annoying. with android 4.0.3 this doesnt happen, all motion input from the touchscreen is getting directly forwarded without any delay/lag/filter.
this touchscreen input filter behavior also occurs in apps like for example realvnc viewer, with android 4.0.3 its pretty easy to accurately control the cursor, with android 6.0.1 its almost impossible to control the cursor because all touchscreen input motion is getting filtered/delayed.
is there any way to disable the touchscreen motion filter behavior and make the touchscreen input to be direct like it was in previous android versions like android 4.0.3?
I have now uploaded 2 Videos of the Xiaomi Redmi 4 Prime and LG Optimus 4X HD which in comparison should show clearly what i mean with "touchscreen input motion filter":
youtube.com/watch?v=qgLqw47wsjY
youtube.com/watch?v=_ac1RgK2Xhw
At 0:00-0:37 (and especially at VNC Viewer test 1:21-1:53) you can clearly see how the Xiaomi Redmi 4 Prime creates some kind of a "smooth-scroll-effect", it continues scrolling very slowly, even though the finger has already stopped moving. This clearly must be a software effect, i cant imagine a hardware problem.
At 0:37-1:21 and 1:53-2:36 you can see, how much the touchscreen has got an input travel almost like the steering wheel of a car, smaller up/down/left/right movements are just being ignored and filtered out. Also here i can only very hardly imagine that this is a hardware issue, for me it clearly looks like a software effect.
I also tested 2 other Android 6/7 phones (Cubot Note Plus and Homtom HT17 pro), both show exactly the same behavior as seen in the video of the Xiaomi Redmi 4 Prime.
The questions that im now asking myself are: Where does this touchscreen software effect come from? What is it called? And how do i remove it? (If necessary, i also agree to root/unlock or install a custom rom on my Xiaomi phone)
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Try SGS touch screen booster app.
It let's you adjust the motion filter amongst other touch latency Android touch settings and you don't need root.
I'm aiming for as close as I can get to iPhone iOS touch response...
Still playing with it but this is where my Honor 8 is currently set.
Couldn't be happier with the results
Hi,
Got my 20 Pro on Friday and so far I'm relatively pleased with it. There seem to be a few teething issues.
In-screen fingerprint scanner
- Doesn't work 100% of the time for me. More like 70% of the time.
- I find it less usefull than one on the rear. With a scanner on the rear you can use it to pull down the notifications whatever screen you might be in. ie I can be in the Browser and still pull the nitifications down with a swipe. I haven't found a way of doing that on the 20 Pro without coming out of the active app?
Some apps are not working?
- Just crashes straight away?
Gesture navigation
- coming from a Xiaomi it is clear where Huawei took their inspiration from. But it simply does not work as smoothly. Flicking up form the bottom should just take you home with a flicker of the previous apps coming up. Just a little thing but hey!
EMUI Desktop question
I also have a Mat 10 Pro on which I use the Desktop application extensively and it works very well. However with the 20 Pro the displayed resolution is much lower, as if it reduced from wqhd to hd? Is there a way around this? It is actually making it pretty useless.
Apps:
Are you talking about native apps? As they should have been thorough benchmarked against Pie 9.0 before being released on a phone. If its apps from Nougat or Oreo, then there's a possibility those apps require updates for suitability on the new OS.
Fingerprint:
Are you using the same pressure for each tap? Have you tried unregistered and re-registering your finger print again (touch different areas of your finger around the sensor area)?
EMUI Desktop:
Can you explain what is wrong with the resolution of FHD using desktop EMUI? Lower res (at least not under 720p HD) is good to prolong battery life...what sort of work are you doing (do you really need 2K resolutions? How did you find battery life with full res quality on M10P?
RoOSTA
roosta said:
Apps:
Are you talking about native apps? As they should have been thorough benchmarked against Pie 9.0 before being released on a phone. If its apps from Nougat or Oreo, then there's a possibility those apps require updates for suitability on the new OS.
Fingerprint:
Are you using the same pressure for each tap? Have you tried unregistered and re-registering your finger print again (touch different areas of your finger around the sensor area)?
EMUI Desktop:
Can you explain what is wrong with the resolution of FHD using desktop EMUI? Lower res (at least not under 720p HD) is good to prolong battery life...what sort of work are you doing (do you really need 2K resolutions? How did you find battery life with full res quality on M10P?
RoOSTA
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Hi, thanks for your answer.
You might well be right about the apps, some of them probably need updating to Pie. However, I'm having an issue connecting Android Wear notifications. There is a Wear Alert saying saying it needs aces to Notifications, which it has. When I click on the the link Wear just closes down. All the settings are correct and the watch (Huawei W1) is paired. So that's...annoying
I have deleted the fingerprints and re-registered them, it might be about 80% successful now. But it is more the loss of functionality which is a shame. A physical fingerprint sensor can be used to swipe down notifications much more easily. But hey ho.
The desktop just looks really zoomed in on the m20p compared to the m10p. Is there a way of zooming out? Unusable otherwise.
I think I might sell the m20p and get the Mi Mix 3, it has a physical fingerprint sensor, gestures work seamlessly for all launchers including Nova (really don't like the Chinese UI's - EMUI, MIUI etc...) and it has no notch.
Wait for build 122 if you aren't already on it. Widely discussed in multiple threads here...might fix one or more of your problems RE: wear/apps and the consistency of fingerprint. Cannot help you with Desktop function just yet.
RoOSTA
I can't get desktop mode to work. Is it a specific cable I need? I use a USB-C to HDMI that works fine with my Note 9, but nothing at all happens.
Also, is there a way to use Wireless Projection to a Chromecast? Or any other tips on how this works...
roosta said:
Apps:
Are you talking about native apps? As they should have been thorough benchmarked against Pie 9.0 before being released on a phone. If its apps from Nougat or Oreo, then there's a possibility those apps require updates for suitability on the new OS.
Fingerprint:
Are you using the same pressure for each tap? Have you tried unregistered and re-registering your finger print again (touch different areas of your finger around the sensor area)?
EMUI Desktop:
Can you explain what is wrong with the resolution of FHD using desktop EMUI? Lower res (at least not under 720p HD) is good to prolong battery life...what sort of work are you doing (do you really need 2K resolutions? How did you find battery life with full res quality on M10P?
RoOSTA
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I have taken some screenshots (attached) to illustrate the issue I am having with the m20p (first) as opposed to the m10p (second).
palexr said:
I have taken some screenshots (attached) to illustrate the issue I am having with the m20p (first) as opposed to the m10p (second).
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I think it's a DPI not a resolution difference. Yes, I also find the lower DPI (larger fonts and elements) annoying. EMUI Desktop needs to have customization options.
BoneXDA said:
I think it's a DPI not a resolution difference. Yes, I also find the lower DPI (larger fonts and elements) annoying. EMUI Desktop needs to have customization options.
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Yes, you are right DPI, not res. It seems like a retrograde stepp to me.
palexr said:
Hi,
Got my 20 Pro on Friday and so far I'm relatively pleased with it. There seem to be a few teething issues.
In-screen fingerprint scanner
- Doesn't work 100% of the time for me. More like 70% of the time.
- I find it less usefull than one on the rear. With a scanner on the rear you can use it to pull down the notifications whatever screen you might be in. ie I can be in the Browser and still pull the nitifications down with a swipe. I haven't found a way of doing that on the 20 Pro without coming out of the active app?
Some apps are not working?
- Just crashes straight away?
Gesture navigation
- coming from a Xiaomi it is clear where Huawei took their inspiration from. But it simply does not work as smoothly. Flicking up form the bottom should just take you home with a flicker of the previous apps coming up. Just a little thing but hey!
EMUI Desktop question
I also have a Mat 10 Pro on which I use the Desktop application extensively and it works very well. However with the 20 Pro the displayed resolution is much lower, as if it reduced from wqhd to hd? Is there a way around this? It is actually making it pretty useless.
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The front fingerprint reader works 99% of the time for me. I find you simply have to press harder on it than a standard finger print reader. The pulling down the notification shade with the scanner is probably one of the least used features on any phone to be honest "shrug". Back readers are just so clumsy. Using my note now is like going back to the 80's in back to the future haha.
Flicking up with gestures on standard launcher works perfectly. It is the non standard launchers that will require updating.
As for the desktop mode, it's most likely down to your TV or a required update on the Mate. Also make sure you have the resolution on the phone set manually to the resolution you want.
Jonathan-H said:
The front fingerprint reader works 99% of the time for me. I find you simply have to press harder on it than a standard finger print reader. The pulling down the notification shade with the scanner is probably one of the least used features on any phone to be honest "shrug". Back readers are just so clumsy. Using my note now is like going back to the 80's in back to the future haha.
Flicking up with gestures on standard launcher works perfectly. It is the non standard launchers that will require updating.
As for the desktop mode, it's most likely down to your TV or a required update on the Mate. Also make sure you have the resolution on the phone set manually to the resolution you want.
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Hmm, each to their own views on useful functionality. Personally, I find the ability to pull notifications down whilst using the phone, holding it with one hand and not having to close any apps useful. More so with the m20p since there is already an unlocking mechanism on the front.
No doubt it is non standard launchers causing the issue with gestures, but I can only say that they work perfectly on Xiaomi devices and Nova.
The irritation with the desktop is that the m10p displays fine on the same monitor. Some kind of dpi issue.
palexr said:
I have taken some screenshots (attached) to illustrate the issue I am having with the m20p (first) as opposed to the m10p (second).
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Have you found a solution for how to increase DPI?
palexr said:
I have taken some screenshots (attached) to illustrate the issue I am having with the m20p (first) as opposed to the m10p (second).
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Samsung DEX is way better than either the m20p or m10p in terms of desktop environment on a smartphone. Checkout the various options for the screen resolution for the desktop on Samsung DEX.
has anyone managed to fix the resolution issue with desktop mode yet?
This is one of the main reasons I bought the mate 20 x and if the resolution isn't going to be fixed then I might be going to samsung unfortunately
I have just come from 1st gen pixel and one feature I really liked was that when using maps and I had the screen locked the phone would show directions on the always on display.
Anyway to have this working on the 20 Pro?
Sadly no, Huawei does not support 3rd party applications on the always on display. It'll only display calls and text as a small symbol
That's a shame. I wish they would do more with the always on display.
I couldn't agree more!
I had a cracked screen on my Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite before and I bought the component to fix it myself, (replacing the screen using service just cost too much in UK, I can almost buy another brand new phone) however the lower half of the screen does not work.
Is there any app that use to make my screen smaller so that I can actually use the usable section of the screen only please?
There is a app Screen Resizer (itdo.at.screenresizer) but i never tested it. But you can enable rotation for lockscreen and launcher, and for soft buttons you can install Auto Hide Softkeys (com.gmd.hidesoftkeys)