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I notice quite a lot of rom threads are being closed...
only a few are being updates while lots were lasted update near the beginning of the month...
Lol.. There are too many roms already and almost all of them are very stable. So why do we need nightly/weekly updates if we have something like pure nexus or chroma running solid? Custom roms will live forever especially for nexus devices.
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Another one was added today. I'm patiently waiting to see if pure nexus appears with cmte. Its in the works.I hear
No end in sight! This is XDA ftw!
Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
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Today is a terrible, terrible day.
We lost an absolute gem
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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The community legit doesn't deserve for him to continue.
His threads would literally make me sick the way ppl treated him. The way they DEMANDED alterations as opposed to asking. The way they asked over and over, despite his firm NO.
I'm gonna miss the hell out of his ROMs. The best. If some major changes happen, maybe Ill move to Pure Nexus, but for now... and a long while... I think the latest Cata mod will be on my phone.
This community truly sucks, sometimes
This has definitely been true for non-Nexus phones. I was big into LG phones, I had the G2, G3, and G4 (all on Verizon). The G2 had tons of development, both stock and AOSP ROMs, and the G3 was similar but noticeably less. The G4 has been non-existent. I remember the days when virtually all phones were rooted and unlocked by devs, with lots of custom ROMs, but this seems to be going away very quickly. Now it's likely if you buy a non-Nexus device, it won't get root at all, let alone custom ROMs.
Looking at the 6P development, I see what you're talking about. Lots of ROMs that started when the phone came out have ceased getting updates, and you only have a handful of solid ROMs to choose from.
I wouldn't be surprised if custom roms are a dying breed. IMHO part of it is that Android is slowly moving towards getting the basic feature set and UI tweaks that people want, and more manufacturers are trimming down their bloated UI's (some exceptions obv, unnamed). But also --- this may sound cynical, but just from my own observation: Many of these enthusiast-worked/powered/funded projects are far too often met with self-entitled users (in the very literal sense of the word) who think their use of the rom/software/art/w/e entitles them to complain endlessly about every little thing and every minute lack of an update (or desired/demanded feature) for what is usually a free or donationware product. Not to mention the people who are too careless/hasty to follow instructions and end up bricking their devices, only to blame the devs and spew a bunch of vitriol. I don't blame anyone who quits at all.
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You mean with cataclysm, there is a cached page about his final words, I hope he still continues
http://txt.do/57rjs
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That's one breathe taking letter! Wish him the best and this Developer will be missed by XDA...
I love custom ROMs!!! I remember when I unlocked my first smart phone the first evo and I found the perfect stable ROM for it...now every time I get a new phone I find myself searching for a ROM I think it makes whatever handset you're using perfect. Thank you to everyone that takes the time to develop
the past roms I used, have not closed down.. Cataclysm was the second rom I used and liked...
I try not to use any roms that are CM based.. lol.. not sure why... I like the AOSP based roms better...
XDA has been going downhill for years now. Seen some amazing devs and funny members just up and leave over the years for this very reason.
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Every ROM will meet its end some time... Beanstalk disappeared. Avatar halted. AOKP is no longer active. ParanoidAndroid and PACman had gone big in form but small in functionality and usefulness. Even CM, with Google incorporating more and more changes into each new Android version and limiting features these ROMs can touch, might die out someday.
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Yeah some people here do not understand devs do this in there free time, for fun theycowe you nothing and you are very privileged to be getting such incredible free software. This upsets a lot if devs and makes them leave the community.
I stopped publishing my own approach of a ROM after I got rid of my old Samsung Galaxy S3 and moved on to Nexus devices. I'm happy with a customised Stock based ROM which suits me well. I'm not sure if anybody else would be interested in it since the Nexus forums offer a great number of custom ROMs, some of which are filled with extra stuff. I can somehow understand the guys who stop publishing their work. I never asked for donations, in fact I don't have a PayPal account linked to my profile Maintaining a ROM is a huge effort, especially if you're on your own and not part of a team.
ROMs are no longer needed plain and simple. Back in the hay days of ROMs, Galaxy S2 and 3, HTC EVO, ROMs were a necessity considering how badly optimized phones were back then.. running great software with horrible specs. Developers made the phone a lot better... I still remember the days of running Viper ROM on my samsung epic on the Sprint network.. those were the days.
Fast forward today I'm going on two years without flashing a ROM and reality is I see no need for it.
I pose a question to the great Nexus community, what's the purpose of flashing ROMs when the device runs perfect out the box?
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Root is a must for me since it allows you to get rid of some unwanted Google Apps (eg Google+, Google Play Games etc), use a Adblocker and special Apps like eg Titanium Backup or LMT
Custom roms, with the exception of a select few, have always been highly overrated imo. Most of them take software that is already created, debloat it (which we can do ourselves) and add some features that anyone can get through xposed, etc.
I used to always laugh when people would jump in a rom thread with outrageous claims like their battery life doubled, it's 100x smoother than stock, etc. Placebo effect runs high on custom roms imo.
With that being said, I've flashed just as many roms as most of you. I still see the value in some of them.
But as other people have said, it's just not as necessary anymore. As long as you can root, you can debloat, add xposed if you wanted, etc.
Doesn't seem to make as big of a difference as before.
Yeah it's not how it used to be and that probably for the better, most anything you could want can be done through Xposed and a custom kernel. While most custom roms are more stable than they were in the early days(seems to have more to do with a more stable aosp), there isn't much incentive and there are often still bugs. It's not because devs are bad at what they do, but building a stable rom requires a team of people and testing environments that people just don't have at home. Early in the days of windows mobile and Android roms were very poorly optimised out of the box, but it'd not really like that anymore.
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You're a power user. Can the honor 5X keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the honor 5X. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Hoping for more love to be given to this KIWI devices
How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
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How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
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I am a beta tester and I would guess another month or so. Software is pretty close. So patience, they aren't holding out. They have actually been very forthcoming and helpful to folks here at XDA.
I hope someone with knowledge about kernels would step up and create a custom kernel so that we can overclock and optimize.
Developement is below average. To compare, my HTC HD2 had excellent custom roms available, my Samsung Galaxy Note I had a fair ammount of roms available with most functionality working properly. The Honor 5X currently has no rom with all the basic hardware working (mainly the fingerprint reader). Whatever the reason is, I can say that currently you should not buy this device if you want a custom rom as your daily driver.
Check the custom roms section if you want to see the recent developements. Check out the CyanogenMod roms, since all the others are based upon that AFAIK. If there is still stuff listed as not working (hardware) then wait a little longer or go for another device if you want to have custom roms.
Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
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All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
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I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
Really, the only "big thing" we'd be missing here on regards to modding would be an easy Xposed install - I say easy because many users have already got it, but afaik it's not a simple flashable .zip but system file editing as well. Not a big deal for a truly tech-savvy person like those who roam the XDA forums, though.
I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
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I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". 1 What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
2 I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
3 I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
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1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
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1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
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1-Now that's something I can agree with
2-The sources were released iirc, but as you said developers are not paid for this so it's a game of wait and see
3-I would suggest people give EMUI a try for a while after buying the phone. It's not like I love it, but come on; the specs aren't anything out of this world, I know that, so if you so desperately want a custom ROM that you can't wait for a day- just get another phone, don't even consider the Honor 5X, or any phone that comes with a skin for that matter. Besides, the wait makes it more worthwile imo, how can you know how much better a ROM is than EMUI if you haven't actually run EMUI to begin with? Again, just my opinion...
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not happy with honor..... and dont even know if update comes or not think like jst making fool.......
using honor 5x and 6p from last 4 months have got any update even security patch in honor while in 6p it comes every month...... wer saying that we will get update of android 6.0 in last may but its naw june and no responce.................
disappointed
Matter of opinion, I respect yours and fully agree with huawei ****ty update policy. At least they open bl and share some sources,which are, at least on qualcomm based huaweis, usable to some extent. I have different opinion on development strength, I see no problem with using crpalmers base (cm) for other ROMs as it working well w/o bugs mentioned by u. The last real things that are to be fixed are fingerprint (on the way,fixed by surdu petru ) and HDR mode on camera.
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Lol, where r good old times when LEO development started and bricks and following recoveries of thosr were daily practice
Yes, huawei update policy is...
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i was kinda afraid of development due to the fact that it is an honor device,bt now am happy that it has official cm13 and other cm based roms.
Very premium feeling phone for the price range, good features. Don't care that much for EMUI though, it's a bit iPhone-y and limited.
CM12 and CM13 ROMS are well represented here, and hope to see some Nougat/CM14 love here soon
Good support considering its huawei
A lot of ROMs hère so one for every taste.
If you are flasholic, you can get drunk with your honor5x : )
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im a flashaholic!!
I made more than 10 ROMs. I hope that's good for everybody.
Hello developers and LG G5 users,
I recently got the LG G5, and everything has been great! Performance is top-notch, display is stunning, and camera takes amazing pictures.
I have the RS988 model, which is the United States carrier unlocked model (not tied to any carrier). It is available at Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01DJE22C2/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8.
I ask with respect and courtesy, does anyone have plans for supporting this model with custom ROMs? I see that the H850 and H830 models are supported, but not the RS988. This model is officially supported by LG for a bootloader unlock, and a working TWRP build is available.
Again, I would like to ask if anyone has plans for supporting the RS988 model with a custom ROM. Fulmics o), Resurrection Remix, AOSPA, Dirty Unicorns, OwnROM, AICP, AOSPExtended, Lineage, ANTHING!
I could even do some light testing, and I'm sure other people feel the same way.
Sincerely,
An LG G5 RS988 user,
Unscedeo
Unscedeo said:
Hello developers and LG G5 users,
I recently got the LG G5, and everything has been great! Performance is top-notch, display is stunning, and camera takes amazing pictures.
I have the RS988 model, which is the United States carrier unlocked model (not tied to any carrier). It is available at Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01DJE22C2/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8.
I ask with respect and courtesy, does anyone have plans for supporting this model with custom ROMs? I see that the H850 and H830 models are supported, but not the RS988. This model is officially supported by LG for a bootloader unlock, and a working TWRP build is available.
Again, I would like to ask if anyone has plans for supporting the RS988 model with a custom ROM. I could even do some light testing, and I'm sure other people feel the same way.
Sincerely,
An LG G5 RS988 user,
Unscedeo
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It would be nice, I have the same model. I was thinking about getting into Android development and working on this phone but that'll take a good while, most developers probably looked over this phone since it for unlockable so late and really I think stock is enough. I have it modified for my needs and it's alright. And you would think this model would get some development since it's not tied to a carrier but I guess not. If I find where to start and everything I might work on this device and of somehow I figure things out I'll be in development for at least 2-3 years for this device.
Please make custom ROM for rs988
You're to late Guys. The G5 is almost completely abdoned and the Most Devs (Who had a Choice) are gone. Outdated 7.0 Stock Firmware and a lack of good Sources are killing the Rest. Besides that is asking for any Development on it just crazy. You don't need to ask! If there is nothing, there will come nothing....
Never LG again! To many mistakes and not a piece Developer friendly at all. Try to sell Your G5 and You will See what i mean!
He's right about the lack of good sources I had an H830 and the roms for it take away useful features for the lg g5. And all have the same bugs. I tried them but kept going back to stock.
There used to be a time when custom roms made the phone better. That time seems to have passed, it is getting harder and harder to root carrier phones, not just lg.
The rs988 is a smooth running phone, with root we get full control of our phone. If you are not happy with that feel free to port over a rom, but please stop asking for dev support.
We are on our own with this phone.
I'm kinda glad this phone has been abandoned and looked upon so poorly.
I bought a brand new rs988 build date 3/17 for 249.00 B&H Photo about 6 weeks ago. The build quality is better, the screen is better, and no gps issues.
Since the Nougat update the phone is so much improved but if you don't like Nougat you can always downgrade back to marshmallow. (benefit of unlocked bootloader)
I bought genuine batteries from NewEgg recently for 5.99 a piece.
It's one of the few unlocked phones that work on Verizon.
But for me the "always listing" (just like the pixel) very few phones have that feature. The removable battery, the IR blaster, expandable storage are requirements.
If I need waterproofing I throw on my fre lifeproof I bought new for 20 bucks.
Just because something is hard doesn't mean it's not worth it. This phone has been given up on too quickly.
At the current price I wouldn't be surprised if some come back to it.
Peace
Yes, I understand everyone's thoughts about development stopping for the LG G5. I am rooted and the stock ROM is excellent, I was just simply inquiring about custom ROM status. Didn't mean to bug or annoy any developers. It would just be nice if there was support, that's all.
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I bought genuine batteries from NewEgg recently for 5.99 a piece.
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By the way, could you send me the link to this? That price is just insane. The lowest I've seen is $11 at Walmart.
Tbh even though I have an h850 I don't see development stopping for custom ROMs on G5, it's being worked on. Slowly yeah,it's summer time,can't expect anyone to give up on some holiday and enjoyment to tinker around. Most of the stuff is already there to support RS988. LineageOS is official for G5,Mokee is official for G5 (2 versions on both for now), besides NFC bug(that's being worked on and there's already a half working solution) Bluetooth bug (not syncing to some products but working) and video saving( just a matter of time when it will be fixed) G5 in general is a fully supported by custom ROMs.We have a lot of unofficial builds too. Getting an official build instead of unofficial one is an advantage not a deal breaker and building your own build isn't that hard anyway. I've studied that for 5 days and have a build for H850 already. And it just took me 5 days cause of my slow internet speed. So a negative attitude won't do any good, positive thinking,catlogs, sharing your findings, sharing your fixes, might see a change.
If you can't wait, build
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Tbh even though I have an h850 I don't see development stopping for custom ROMs on G5, it's being worked on. Slowly yeah,it's summer time,can't expect anyone to give up on some holiday and enjoyment to tinker around. Most of the stuff is already there to support RS988. LineageOS is official for G5,Mokee is official for G5 (2 versions on both for now), besides NFC bug(that's being worked on and there's already a half working solution) Bluetooth bug (not syncing to some products but working) and video saving( just a matter of time when it will be fixed) G5 in general is a fully supported by custom ROMs.We have a lot of unofficial builds too. Getting an official build instead of unofficial one is an advantage not a deal breaker and building your own build isn't that hard anyway. I've studied that for 5 days and have a build for H850 already. And it just took me 5 days cause of my slow internet speed. So a negative attitude won't do any good, positive thinking,catlogs, sharing your findings, sharing your fixes, might see a change.
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Hiya, have you got any good guides I can possibly use to start building from source? I would love to do this.
Thanks
seraphism said:
Hiya, have you got any good guides I can possibly use to start building from source? I would love to do this.
Thanks
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I'm on my phone now,but have some bookmarked on my laptop. When I get home I'll pass some. For starters search XDA and use Google building Android from source, plus go on LineageOS manifest GitHub. Repo sync first,it will take a while. By the way, you'll need a stronger PC or laptop if you want to build fast also Linux or osx or on Windows you'll need Linux in virtual PC. SSD drive recommend.
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Yes, I understand everyone's thoughts about development stopping for the LG G5. I am rooted and the stock ROM is excellent, I was just simply inquiring about custom ROM status. Didn't mean to bug or annoy any developers. It would just be nice if there was support, that's all.
By the way, could you send me the link to this? That price is just insane. The lowest I've seen is $11 at Walmart.
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Unfortunately they are sold out now....
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Don't get Me wrong. I've put much efforts into this Phone since i still think it's a good piece of Hardware. I'm also Out of Money so i have to stick with it. But it makes Me crazy sometimes as a Ex Samsung, HTC, SONY and Nexus User/Dev to have a LG.
-The Sources
-The Community (XDA)
-The Bootloader (Recovery Access, Bootloader Message)
-The Build Quality (Light Shadows on the Display, the bottom Gap, Volume Rocker Stucks)
And the most Important Thing - UPDATES
We are using a 2016 Flagship and No Android 7.1? Still?
What about Android 0? Do we get a real Update or just a Copy OS from the V20? Like with the actual/past Updates?
I'm really done with LG. That they ditched us with the Modules is another Big Point for Me as G5 User. I would at least be more happy with a V20 since it wasn't a Joke like the G5....
For those interested, the following LG G5 variants have the same FCC ID of ZNFVS987:
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VS987 - Verizon Wireless variant
US992 - U.S. Cellular variant
RS988 - General North America variant
Presumably, the variants are of the same hardware, but have different firmware.
Okay,let's start with the basics. First we are going to make the device tree so at least devs without your phone version would try to build a custom rom ( non stock based) for rs988.
Following parts of this tutorial extract boot.img and share it here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45721523&postcount=1
Then after that, following this tutorial we'll make your device tree.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69576711&postcount=1
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Okay,let's start with the basics. First we are going to make the device tree so at least devs without your phone version would try to build a custom rom ( non stock based) for rs988.
Following parts of this tutorial extract boot.img and share it here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45721523&postcount=1
Then after that, following this tutorial we'll make your device tree.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69576711&postcount=1
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OK, great! Thank you for starting the development train.
I am new to this kind of stuff, but I am willing to do it. Is have some knowledge of ADB/Fastboot and looking at partitions. So basically what I need to do is extract the boot.img from my phone, and then create a device tree for the phone. Where should I put the tree when it's done?
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OK, great! Thank you for starting the development train.
I am new to this kind of stuff, but I am willing to do it. Is have some knowledge of ADB/Fastboot and looking at partitions. So basically what I need to do is extract the boot.img from my phone, and then create a device tree for the phone. Where should I put the tree when it's done?
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When all that is done,well then you or any other developer uses that tree with already synced repo from any of the custom ROMs along with the G5 repos to try and make a build.
First thing's first,to get a device tree. Building a rom from the source comes later, and luckily there's more than one tutorial on how to get it done. Then it's figuring out what doesn't work and how to fix it.
Source?
So I extracted boot.img, have the file. When I go to the link you gave me for creating a device tree, it says that I need the source code. Sorry if I'm acting like a noob, but where do I get that? I found this link: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=lgrs988, but I don't know if I should use it.
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So I extracted boot.img, have the file. When I go to the link you gave me for creating a device tree, it says that I need the source code. Sorry if I'm acting like a noob, but where do I get that? I found this link: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=NAME&search=lgrs988, but I don't know if I should use it.
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Can you screenshot what exactly it's asking from you? And by the way, I doubt it's lg open source, probably just google android source. But let me see it first.
By the way, another tut on how to make a device tree
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010281
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Can you screenshot what exactly it's asking from you? And by the way, I doubt it's lg open source, probably just google android source. But let me see it first.
By the way, another tut on how to make a device tree
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010281
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Never mind, I figured out how to unpack the boot.img. I now have the basic files created, including AndroidBoard.mk, AndroidProducts.mk, etc. I just created the files that are listed in this tutorial (the one you gave me): https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010281
So I also found this on Github, which states that it is the device tree for the RS988: https://github.com/jcadduono/android_device_lge_rs988. I don't know if that is what you want me to make, and if it is, can we use that? If that isn't the right tree, I am currently on writing the BoardConfig.mk file, which is one of the steps in the tutorial mentioned above. it says to use a "cousin device" tree. What should I use for that?
Thanks
Thanks for this..
Again.. thanks for the heads up on how to get the ball rolling on this.. I should have some time to unlock my bootloader and post the boot.img and other necessary files this weekend..
Cheers!
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Okay,let's start with the basics. First we are going to make the device tree so at least devs without your phone version would try to build a custom rom ( non stock based) for rs988.
Following parts of this tutorial extract boot.img and share it here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45721523&postcount=1
Then after that, following this tutorial we'll make your device tree.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69576711&postcount=1
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Any luck with our rs988? ?
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I'll have the chance to buy this phone for 160€. Normally I investigate around if the community enjoys the phone if there's development for it in custom roms and what's the status on the bootloader but it's getting complicated.
From what I've heard, Huawei stopped offering the chance for unlocking the bootloader for its phones, it is still possible with this one? If yes, completely? Can we do whatever we want or are we limited? I've browsed and seen treble support for it, is it working well? If you are using a P20lite with a treble rom, what works and what doesn't for you?
I'll still be looking for info to my own questions and even more but if you have some spare minutes, own the phone and have the answers I'm looking for, care to help please?
If it's worth it? For that price and as of right now, definitely yes. It's a well built phone for the price, the glass on the back is a bit bad of course in terms of durability but allows for better network possibilities which plastic does not. In terms of ROMS and recoveries the phone already has them which at this time is amazing, although development always depend on the true developers that stay up to date and that give their best to keep projects up to date.
Boot loader is a problem as of right now for those who have no key to unlock it. There is some paid software that can do it like Funky Huawei and others...Although I think Huawei might change it or find a better solution to developers trying to develop some ROMS to their phones. Huawei only does this because of security since Android is full of vulnerabilities and they are not risking to lose against other companies like Apple.
Once you have a boot loader unlock code, yup you are free to do anything on your phone
As for the treble ROM's, in my humble opinion I think they have a lot to evolve right now due to bugs (talking in general, not only for our device), I think they are good alternatives to normal ROM's though, simpler to install and smoother.
What works and doesn't work you can see it at github, I can give you a link for a treble ROM created by phhusson developer at github https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/tag/v108, look on the issues tab if you have any issues yourself. I personally love his work.
Resuming, it's still a perfect deal since the phone only launched a few months ago at 400 euros.
Although if you want full control of your phone and at the same time receive a lot of updates I honestly recommend Nokia - Android One phones
You probably already know but, don't let Chinese phones fool you, their build quality sucks, they might have more a bit powerful but after 1 or 2 years it's dead
Cheers,
AS
Hi everyone,
I can't find a satisfactory answer on my favorite search engines, so I thought I'd come here and ask. Sorry if this question has already been put on the table, carved, sliced and gobbled, I couldn't find trace of it in the forum's search engine either.
My phone's a Leagoo T5c that will forever be stuck on Android 7.0, it seems, because the OEM has already lost interest, and because its SoC makes it difficult, if not downright impossible, to find a suitable custom ROM.
The latest ROM I could find and install on this phone goes back to August of 2018 (no-no, no typos), and its Security Update is even one month older (July 2018).
My question is in the title: Is it possible to install Security Updates without reinstalling/updating/upgrading the firmware itself, like you would in, say, Windows or any other OS, I presume?
UglyStuff said:
Hi everyone,
I can't find a satisfactory answer on my favorite search engines, so I thought I'd come here and ask. Sorry if this question has already been put on the table, carved, sliced and gobbled, I couldn't find trace of it in the forum's search engine either.
My phone's a Leagoo T5c that will forever be stuck on Android 7.0, it seems, because the OEM has already lost interest, and because its SoC makes it difficult, if not downright impossible, to find a suitable custom ROM.
The latest ROM I could find and install on this phone goes back to August of 2018 (no-no, no typos), and its Security Update is even one month older (July 2018).
My question is in the title: Is it possible to install Security Updates without reinstalling/updating/upgrading the firmware itself, like you would in, say, Windows or any other OS, I presume?
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With android 10 were introduced Google play security updates that lets you received security updates (not all of them unfortunately, some requires to upgrade) without updating the full OS. You can't do it because you're stuck with the wrong Android version
Hopefully you won't have any issues with hacking but consider buying a new phone when you'll get a chance
Security updates get rolled out as OTA by OEM/Carrier if they consider it's necessary. You can't force it. Theoretically, all Android smartphones should get around two years of security updates. However, the reality is often very different.
The Leagoo T5c is a small-budget phone what was sold for 99 USD - so more or less a disposable item. You cannot expect OEM/Carrier to have any interest in providing updates for such a phone.
Thank you both for your explanations. I understand that Android works differently when it comes to updating itself, mostly because Google isn't the only party to have a voice in the chapter; still, it's unnerving to see that the end-user is more or less captive anyway.
It kinda defeats the very purpose of an open-source OS, to have to wait for an OEM to release (or not) an update, when you could install the patches yourself.
As for buying another phone, well, as soon as I've got the dough, I will, believe me. Not because I'm dissatisfied with this one, but because I don't like the idea of totting around with a phone that hasn't seen a security update in over two years.
I'm also seriously considering moving to Ubuntu Touch, though there again, my phone's exotic platform could be problematic. Custom ROMs seems to be as complicated an avenue as others, too.
All in all, Android isn't what they sold me: It's not secure, it's not "free", it's just another way to make you shell out bucks for new hardware every couple years.
Android is just iOS without the eye-candy, you ask me...
UglyStuff said:
Thank you both for your explanations. I understand that Android works differently when it comes to updating itself, mostly because Google isn't the only party to have a voice in the chapter; still, it's unnerving to see that the end-user is more or less captive anyway.
It kinda defeats the very purpose of an open-source OS, to have to wait for an OEM to release (or not) an update, when you could install the patches yourself.
As for buying another phone, well, as soon as I've got the dough, I will, believe me. Not because I'm dissatisfied with this one, but because I don't like the idea of totting around with a phone that hasn't seen a security update in over two years.
I'm also seriously considering moving to Ubuntu Touch, though there again, my phone's exotic platform could be problematic. Custom ROMs seems to be as complicated an avenue as others, too.
All in all, Android isn't what they sold me: It's not secure, it's not "free", it's just another way to make you shell out bucks for new hardware every couple years.
Android is just iOS without the eye-candy, you ask me...
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Android isn't iOS precisely because you can break free from your OEM by flashing a custom ROM. You can develop one for almost any device as long as the OEM releases the kernel source code. And most OEM do (expect for some very unknown phones).
Custom ROMs like GrapheneOS are made to free you from google Services and are truly privacy oriented. And all of that is possible because Android is open source.
Trust me, the Android community has always worked actively to counter aging of their devices (including me).
Just buy a phone with a solid community behind and you'll be able to keep it up to date a looong time
Raiz said:
Android isn't iOS precisely because you can break free from your OEM by flashing a custom ROM. You can develop one for almost any device as long as the OEM releases the kernel source code. And most OEM do (expect for some very unknown phones).
Custom ROMs like GrapheneOS are made to free you from google Services and are truly privacy oriented. And all of that is possible because Android is open source.
Trust me, the Android community has always worked actively to counter aging of their devices (including me).
Just buy a phone with a solid community behind and you'll be able to keep it up to date a looong time
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I agree with you in principle, but if I must take an example: I have this Early 2006 MacBook Pro with a Core Duo CPU that precludes me from even installing Mac OS X 10.7 "Lion" on it, because the CPU is 32-bit-only, and Lion requires a 64-bit CPU.
The machine itself works very well, albeit a bit slowly, but then it's got only 2 GB of RAM and a 120-GB SSD. When I got fed-up with OS X applications not updating/upgrading and Firefox addons not installing because my copy of Firefox was too old, I partitioned the SSD, installed rEFInd as boot manager, and installed Zorin 15.2 (now 15.3) Lite 32-bit.
I now spend more time on the Linux side of this Mac than on the OS X side, and updating/upgrading it is a breeze, either via the dedicated application or in Terminal. I know there'll be an end-of-the-line there too, someday, but at least I'll keep using this Mac until it truly dies on me, not when Apple tells me it's dead.
This, for me, is the very essence of open-source: Not just the fact that it's free, but that you can revive an old machine and keep it running long after Apple et al have decided that it had gone the way of the dinosaurs.
The same doesn't apply to Android, alas. Here, you must have a compatible SoC/chipset/what-have-you, a Treble-compatible device, you must have this, you must have that...
In the end, only a fraction of Android users really get to enjoy everything their device has to offer for as long as they choose; the others just pop into the nearest phone store, be it brick-and-mortar or cyber, and must produce their credit card.
My question was as much a challenge to myself as anything else. I would really like to learn how Android works, but the tutorials and articles I've found here and there are all a bit cryptic.
That's why I'm regularly prowling this forum, I guess.
"Hunting high and low", as the song goes... :laugh:
yep, good question but google & manufactures are in it for the moola not the users 2 yr old phone.
hiitsrudd said:
yep, good question but google & manufactures are in it for the moola not the users 2 yr old phone.
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Don't I know it! It's true that even budget phones have decent specs nowadays, still, why dump a perfectly functioning phone simply because you can't update/upgrade the software?
I understand Google's rationale, of course: They invest tons of money year after year after year to keep the whole boat afloat, and they need a steady income. OK. Still, to not be able to keep your phone ***safe*** is a no-go for me.
I'm seriously beginning to think about installing Ubuntu Touch on the device. I think I'm going to try that next weekend.
I'll probably come back here with my eyes red, asking for help in unbricking my phone, though.
Stay tuned! :good:
A followup, if you are mindful of your own security it's conceivable to get more usage of that android. I don't use a banking app, but if need be use a good browser( thats updated of course) And update all often used apps via playstore. I'm still running Oreo on my phone. FYI you iOS ppl need to do critical updates asap