Hi
After updating to FW 2.1.02 I hoped to get a n-wireless speed connection with my router (other devices connect in n speed without problem) as the changelog of the fw 2.1.02 says that n-wireless is now enabled.
But I still have a 54 Mbit speed mentionned in the connection details.
I have a dualband router. Both freqs are configured to have 300 Mbit.
The A70 doesn't see the 5 MHz network (because I think it has a 2.4 GHz chip inside).
Other devices connect to my router with n-speed on the 2.4 GHz net.
How about you? Any success after fw upgrade or still 54 Mbit connection?
Any solution for that "problem"?
(I want n-connection, when the A70 says it has a n-chip inside...)
I have the same issue !!!! i'm using a sagem fast 3304 >>300mbps
Archos when will we have wifi-N SUPPORT !!!!! And Flash support ....... ¿
Not working for me either with wireless n.
I'm only seeing 54mbit so far.
Same here.
This is the answer from a member of the R&D team of Archos:
courville said:
wifi chipset supports single stream thus caps at 65MBps raw PHY rate. It has also all aggregation features of the IEEE802.11n standards that enable to save the silent periods over the air and increase throughput efficiency.
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kitsune44fr said:
This is the answer from a member of the R&D team of Archos:
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And thats exactly what my wireless router shows me as connection speed for the archos: 65 mb/s. So it's definitely a n-connection but limited to 65 MB. So there will probably never be a faster speed with that device, as the Archos guy points out that it's a hardware limtation of the chip .
One more proof that it's an error to always see 811n as synonymous to 300 MB/s.
hi,
here is a question for gen8 developers :
I read this answer on wifi n from Archosfans :
Archos Support wrote:
When connecting to a wireless network there is a certain connection speed
attained. The better quality signal network the higher the connection speed
possible. B < G < N when it comes to wireless network signal connection speeds.
54mbps was the max speed possible with a G-Network for wireless. N goes a lot
higher than this. Our unit is capable of connecting to an N-Network however we do
not allow a connection speed higher than 54mbps to conserve battery life. Thus if
your N-Network is broadcasting higher than that and will not allow a connection
speed of that low you won't connect
Is there any chance to get a real Wifi n by modifying the firmware?
thank you.
bach0405 said:
hi,
here is a question for gen8 developers :
I read this answer on wifi n from Archosfans :
Archos Support wrote:
When connecting to a wireless network there is a certain connection speed
attained. The better quality signal network the higher the connection speed
possible. B < G < N when it comes to wireless network signal connection speeds.
54mbps was the max speed possible with a G-Network for wireless. N goes a lot
higher than this. Our unit is capable of connecting to an N-Network however we do
not allow a connection speed higher than 54mbps to conserve battery life. Thus if
your N-Network is broadcasting higher than that and will not allow a connection
speed of that low you won't connect
Is there any chance to get a real Wifi n by modifying the firmware?
thank you.
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To the developement thing i can't say anything,
But 54 mbit is 6.75 mb per minute ;-)
this is very fast!
I use dsl 32.000 on my a101 and it worked for me.
Thank you for your answer.
I get about a real 2 Mb/s with a 54 Mbps speed with an Archos 70 it. With my laptop, I get 6 Mb/s ( around 150 Mbps). That's a huge difference !
bach0405 said:
Thank you for your answer.
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Then please klick thanks
I get about a real 2 Mb/s with a 54 Mbps speed with an Archos 70 it. With my laptop, I get 6 Mb/s ( around 150 Mbps). That's a huge difference !
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Oh you've fast internet
Mhm i think we could change the wi-fi binarie so we can support faster internet
Buti can't do that.
Idont have experience with that..
Wow seems some people are actually getting response from archos-support i've read in one of the archosfans threads that the chipset does not support the full N speed..however with this comment of achos...
The problem with all the information on the internet is to get the right information in the right order and draw the right conclusions.
1. The chipset in the Archos is able to connect to a Wifi-N only AP
2. It has a maximum Connectionspeed of 65MBit/s
3. Archos decided to lower the maximum speed to 54MBit/s for energieoptimization
4. Because of this it doesn't connect to a AP that wants a minimum of 65MBit/s
So once and for all, Archos can connect to Wifi-N.
The hardware would be able to do 65MBit/s
Even then to get more then 2MByte/s is not likely to happen as all downloads are going to the ssd/sd and this two together ( wifi + "hd" access ) with this processor and the sorounding components wont be faster.
@Lennb:
Begging for thanks is always a bad idea.
fzelle said:
Begging for thanks is always a bad idea.
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But it works
Are there any hacks, settings, or drivers that can be adjusted in either the os, or bt stack, or wifi drivers to help reduce the repeating key/mouse stutter that seems to be common in KitKat when on wifi simultaneously? Keyboard pro is a help but it is still very hard to use the bt peripherals effectively whilenthey are jumping all around the screen......
I have heard this is only an issue on 2.4 GHz networks, is that true?
The wifi and Bluetooth are on the same chip. They don't like to run at the same time! It's a hardware issue, not software that no manufacturer seems to care about. Every Android device I have used has issues when using both at the same time. For example, Bluetooth headphones for watching youtube videos means the wifi cuts out every few minutes. A possible solution would be a cheap usb Bluetooth dongle via USB otg.
Use 5 GHz Wifi, then the problem should be solved.
hasenbein1966 said:
Use 5 GHz Wifi, then the problem should be solved.
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My gateway router only offers 2.4ghz. Do most home network devices, ie: Tv, blueray, printers, all support 5 GHz or is that only on new or special devices?
A router which has 5 Ghz WiFi always also has 2.4 Ghz because indeed only some devices support 5 Ghz, so a router with only 5 Ghz would be very limited in usage.
LINK : qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
According to this PDF from Qualcomm that lists QC3 and QC2 devices, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 "contains the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 2.0" (page 4, bottom right).
Apparently Xiaomi has not enabled the feature. But it can probably be enabled by modifying the kernel.
Can the developers confirm that this can be done?
mottokeki said:
LINK : qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
According to this PDF from Qualcomm that lists QC3 and QC2 devices, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 "contains the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 2.0" (page 4, bottom right).
Apparently Xiaomi has not enabled the feature. But it can probably be enabled by modifying the kernel.
Can the developers confirm that this can be done?
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Actually RN3P Kenzo suport even QC3.0,but this feature is not enabled by default by manufacturer.Take a look here: qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/650
Here are detailed processor specs;this is a very powerfull and versatile procesoor&chipset.650Snapdrgon can support even NFC but this device does not have such feature enabled.
Snapdragon 650 Processor Specs
Compare all processors
CPU
Up to 1.8 GHz hexa-core
(2x ARM® Cortex™ A72, 4x ARM Cortex A53)
GPU
Qualcomm® Adreno™ 510 GPU
DSP
Qualcomm® Hexagon™ DSP
Camera
Up to 21 MP camera
Dual Image Sensor Processor (ISP)
Zero Shutter Lag
Video
Up to 4K Ultra HD capture and playback
[email protected] capture
H.264 (AVC)
H.265 (HEVC)
Display
Up to Quad HD (2560x1600) on device
1080p external display support
Audio
Qualcomm® Immersive Audio
Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ Voice Activation
LTE Connectivity
X8 LTE
LTE Category 7
Up to 300 Mbps DL
Up to 100 Mbps UL
Downlink Features:
2x20 MHz carrier aggregation
64-QAM
Uplink Features:
2x20 MHz carrier aggregation
16-QAM
Global Mode
LTE FDD and TDD
WCDMA (DB-DC-HSDPA, DC-HSUPA)
TD-SCDMA
EV-DO and CDMA 1x
GSM/EDGE
Additional features include:
LTE Broadcast
LTE Dual SIM
HD Voice over 3G and VoLTE
Wi-Fi calling with LTE call continuity
Wi-Fi
Qualcomm® VIVE™ 1-stream 802.11n/ac with MU-MIMO
Location
Qualcomm® IZat™ Gen8C
Charging
Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 2.0
Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 3.0
Security
Qualcomm Haven™ security suite:
Snapdragon StudioAccess™ Content Protection
Qualcomm® SafeSwitch™ Technology
Qualcomm® SecureMSM™ hardware and software foundation
Memory
LPDDR3 933MHz dual-channel
Process Technology
28nm HPm
RF
Qualcomm® RF360™ front end solution
USB
USB 2.0
Bluetooth
Bluetooth Smart 4.1
NFC
Supported
Part Number
8956
@Luiggi79 Agreed. But the RN3 does not have the required antennae for NFC, even though the SD650 supports it.
However, it does have compatibility for QuickCharge 2.0 and I believe it could be enable in the kernel. (I don't know about QC3.0 since the document does not say so).
This is similar to the LG G2 which had official support for QC1.0, but could successfully achieve QC2.0 using custom kernel.
what are the chances of getting this working?
And why did xiaomi not include something which the chipset supports?
Both those features would have made this a killer handset, are they that much more expensive to implement?
gotbass said:
what are the chances of getting this working?
And why did xiaomi not include something which the chipset supports?
Both those features would have made this a killer handset, are they that much more expensive to implement?
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If it has the hardware capability then it should definitely work. But the battery should be able to handle it too.
Xiaomi probably didn't enable it because they did not have licencing for this handset. It would add to the cost I guess.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using XDA-Developers mobile app
hulgo said:
If it has the hardware capability then it should definitely work. But the battery should be able to handle it too.
Xiaomi probably didn't enable it because they did not have licencing for this handset. It would add to the cost I guess.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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do you think through development we could unlock these features?
battery might not be to handle it? it gets pretty hot already when charging
meangreenie said:
battery might not be to handle it? it gets pretty hot already when charging
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What charger are you using ? I haven't used official charger I am using my Samsung charger which is just a standard 2.0A charger from my Note 3 or something. Phone doesn't warm up even a little bit. In fact I haven't felt this phone warm up ever, even after 30 mins of GPS use or charging. Unusual !
Some developers have already been testing quick charge and apparently it is working. Of course, no one knows what effects it could have mid and long term. I believe it was in on of the cyanogenmod rom threads.
>1080p external display support
Since the RN3 does not support an external display officially but the 650 does, I was wondering if this could be enabled by software like quick charge or does it need some special hardware connection like nfc? Anyone knows? Would love to be able to connect the RN3 to an external display.
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What charger are you using ? I haven't used official charger I am using my Samsung charger which is just a standard 2.0A charger from my Note 3 or something. Phone doesn't warm up even a little bit. In fact I haven't felt this phone warm up ever, even after 30 mins of GPS use or charging. Unusual !
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Can confirm that it does not get hot at all while charging, using the original 2A charger that came with the device.
I use a simple trick to counter the charging heat, remove back cover if u use any, put ur mobile on slightly damp cloth while charging. That's it.
Fast charging works on my device 1 hr to full charge
hmmm
Then ,sir, tell us how u do that ??
AFAIK, to have full support for Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 on any Snapdragon device, in this case for Redmi Note 3
- The Hardware (SoC) should be compatible for QC. (Present)
- The OEM should pay the licensing fee for QC to Qualcomm. Around 5$ per device for QC 2.0 (Absent)
- The Kernel should have QC enabled. (Absent)
- The Power Management Integrated Circuit (PMIC) should be capable of handling QC. (Not sure)
- The Battery should be capable of rapid charging via QC. (Not Sure)
sushil888 said:
Then ,sir, tell us how u do that ??
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I made my own custom kernel.. Think that's the reason why xiaomi allows unlocking the device.. So the we can enable this feature and they can save a few bux .. Also fixed the network issue
filthyrich77 said:
I made my own custom kernel.. Think that's the reason why xiaomi allows unlocking the device.. So the we can enable this feature and they can save a few bux .. Also fixed the network issue
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Could you share with us that? Is there a link to the cyanogenmod discussing qc2/3 with this phone?
filthyrich77 said:
I made my own custom kernel.. Think that's the reason why xiaomi allows unlocking the device.. So the we can enable this feature and they can save a few bux .. Also fixed the network issue
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Do you know if external display support, be it MHL or SlimPort, could be enabled the same way or needs extra hardware so it is not possible?
its fake claim of custom kernel creator here...............1 hr for 4050 mah is impossible, as per the Qualcomm list of supported device RN3 supports QC 2.0, May be users and forums plague with heating issue on its launch,so they blocked at kernel level and also to save costs on Qc2.0 Supported charger, please stop bluffing as jackXXx,. even if he is skilled to code, 1hr is impossible. mi5 takes 1 hour + with 3000mah battery. qc1.0 qc2.0 qc3.0 times will be 2h 50mts, 2 hrs 10mts, 1hr 35mts. thnks to thread creator for finding it listed in qualcomm page.
Surprised to read this, can u share that kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/sony-secret-revealed-qc-2-0-t3163490
I saw that a while ago so thought it might be possible.
Athiril said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/sony-secret-revealed-qc-2-0-t3163490
I saw that a while ago so thought it might be possible.
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Interesting info
For an application we need to toggle the flash LED of the mobile as fast as possible.
In a for loop the flash LED is toggled 100 times.
We noticed a 4 time speed difference between different devices running the same Android version (version 9).
What is strange is that the device with higher specifications (an 8 core Samsung Galaxy J7 duo) performs 4 times slower than a 4 core device made of a different brand. (both devices have similar clock speeds).
Note that both devices were brand new "virgin" devices with no apps installed on them.
Can somebody explain this difference ?
@Ridge dewaal
The amount of CPU-cores tells nothing about how well/fast a device performs. Note that the primary core is the rate limiter for an application.