Before, with att GO! sim cards, you could activate through the online form (att go! website) and just quit the process right before you pay. After you log in all your info, it activates the sim, and then asks you to pay. You had about 2 weeks to pay or the sim card was deactivated, but it WOULD allow you to take updates on your G5 on cricket.
Now, with ATT Prepaid, this is no longer the case. The only way to activate the card seems to be actually paying for a month of service. For a phone that is worth a mere $100, it doesnt make sense to pay $30 for every update.
So I guess the G5 is done then? No reason to keep it? :/ Sad, because mine is still working like new because everytime something goes wrong with it I just fix it. Parts are so easy to swap out.... would be criminal to be forced to retire this phone because ATT simply blocked any means to update without money. This sort of **** is why unlocked bootloaders and custom roms matter... this G5 could have had a few more years of service!
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Hello,
So before today I was on the $50 unlimited plan on prepaid, which I filled up every month and I had never bought a phone from T-Mobile.
Today, I went in to buy the HTC One and I said I wanted the phone outright. They checked my account and said I am qualified. They also said that I can only do it with the $70 plan. Is this true? How do I change back to the $50 plan?
Also, they said 90-days for unlock. Is this true or can I do it before?
Crazysah
Also, they made it seem like I am now on postpaid instead of prepaid?
Can someone help shed light on this?
Sounds like the in-store people just f'd you over and changed you to postpaid without telling you. You'll probably have to get on the phone with customer service and fight with them for a while.
As for the unlock thing, there are tons of sites that will provide SIM unlock codes for a fee (usually like $10-$20), or T-Mobile will give people whose accounts are in good standing (or something) the code after 90 days. But I think you might be confused between SIM unlock and bootloader unlock. If you want to take your phone and use it on AT&T or in another country's network, you need SIM unlock. If you want to root and install custom ROMs, you need bootloader unlock. You can unlock your bootloader whenever you want from HTCdev for free.
Yeah, I'm talking about SIM unlock only. I need that as I live in India 4 months of the year. Is there anyway to change from postpaid back to prepaid? I don't want to be on postpaid at all. They said there was no other way I could buy the phone. I want the $50 plan (not the $70 one they put me on!)
He jagged you big time bro... But fear not!
If you haven't activated the sim on the plan yet then all you gotta do is call 611 T-Mobile from your PREPAID sim and tell them to active the other sim for you. Your number/plan will transfer over just fine.
If you already switched plans then you will need to buy another sim and do the above
Simple eh?
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Becool0130 said:
He jagged you big time bro... But fear not!
If you haven't activated the sim on the plan yet then all you gotta do is call 611 T-Mobile from your PREPAID sim and tell them to active the other sim for you. Your number/plan will transfer over just fine.
If you already switched plans then you will need to buy another sim and do the above
Simple eh?
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So, when I call them what do I tell them? He said that the SIM he put into the HTC One has a temporary number and either that SIM or the SIM in my current phone (HTC Explorer) will get a message saying it is activated. I haven't gotten any message now. So what can I do?
At the moment, my HTC Explorer with current SIM is still working and the new one is temporary but I think still working.
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So, when I call them what do I tell them? He said that the SIM he put into the HTC One has a temporary number and either that SIM or the SIM in my current phone (HTC Explorer) will get a message saying it is activated. I haven't gotten any message now. So what can I do?
At the moment, my HTC Explorer with current SIM is still working and the new one is temporary but I think still working.
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It seems that the card is already activated. You cant just deactivate a card and reactivate it. Once deactivated you cant reactivate it, EVER.
Youll need to deactivate it to go from post to prepaid. You will need a new micr-sim and either:
1) slip it in the phone and it will work
if this doesnt work then there is step 2
2) call 611 from prepaid phone and tell them you want to transfer your number to other new sim. They will ask you for sim #. DONE!
As for this other plan they activated.. ask the prepaid person to transfer you over to post-paid customer service and talk to them about deleting that account. They cant do it, but they can refund you the money and let it not charge you ever again (if already charged)
All these steps should work so long as you paid for the phone in full. If not, you are bound by the terms/conditions to keep the post-paid account or to pay the phone off in full to get pre-paid.
I called them up and they just switched my account from postpaid to prepaid, gave me an unlock code and also activated Wifi calling for me. It was as easy as asking them to do it. The customer care was super helpful. I haven't received any of the confirmation emails they said they would send but I think I'm all good.
Anything else I need to be worried about?
Ok so we all know why we got our gear s from at&t (100$) cheaper than sprint.so now after i unlock the phone is there a way to connect it so srint.if yes than how if no than state details why not and whats the best choice for unlocked at&t gear s device ....
Sprint version is CDMA. I think that is why it also cost more. ATT version is gsm version with a sim card. I dont think they will work.
In order to use any phone on a CDMA carrier, it must meet two conditions:
1. It must support CDMA. The AT&T and T-Mobile versions are GSM only, no CDMA support.
2. It must has ESN (each CDMA device has one) already in the carrier's database. There is no known (official) way to put foreign device ESN into the database other than carrier itself. That means you are pretty much limited to devices sold by Sprint only. Even though Verizon is CDMA as well, you can't use any Verizon devices.
Yeah. That's a tall order. Atleast to use all functionality of services. Pairing is fine and using the features of the marriage between your device and GS. But standalone, I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.
Although. Maybe using Boost or Virgin Mobile may work? I believe they use sim cards. I could totally be wrong though. But i thought they did.
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Boost and Virgin Mobile all run off of sprint network. The best thing would be to return the watch to att and just pick up a sprint version. Price wise it only 80 bucks more but then you know you can use it on your network.
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Ok so we all know why we got our gear s from at&t (100$) cheaper than sprint.so now after i unlock the phone is there a way to connect it so srint.if yes than how if no than state details why not and whats the best choice for unlocked at&t gear s device ....
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As the other posters have said CDMA = UICC CARD (SPRINT SOME VERIZON) GSM (T-MOBILE &AT&T
SPRINT & VERIZON
NO SIM CARD FOR YOU
T-MOBILE & AT&T
SIM CARD YES UNLOCK MAYBE BUT YOU CAN ONLY GO TO THESE CARRIERS
MOST ARE LOCKED (yOU CAN USE MVNO TO YOUR CARRIER WHILE LOCKED (IE H2O/CRICKET/STRAIGHTTALK ECT=AT&T
WHATEVER VERIZON IS .
You can use separately I for instance have Note 4 Sprint Gear S T-mobile
Ok as i come from sprint im really a noob about sim cards and the prepaid ones.can somebody please give me in details with sim cards will work unlocked fear s at&t .i want to put sim card with phone and text dont care about data ill use wifi mostly but dont want monthly subscibtion to any service.simple sim card that gonna let me talk and text till i finish my minutes...
the thing is that the price for a prepaid sim card is not worth the cost of the service. Most will be 30 a month. I think you may be better just trying to get service from att.
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Ok as i come from sprint im really a noob about sim cards and the prepaid ones.can somebody please give me in details with sim cards will work unlocked fear s at&t .i want to put sim card with phone and text dont care about data ill use wifi mostly but dont want monthly subscibtion to any service.simple sim card that gonna let me talk and text till i finish my minutes...
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H20/cricket/Net10/Red Pocket/Straight Talk/ ect locked AT&T :good:
T-mobile (you unlock sim it will work with these bootleg company's for t-mo)
Metropcs/Simple mobile/GoSmart/walmart plan/Red Pocket/Straight talk /net 10
theres more but these are ones people know
That wasn't confusing at all ...
Haha.
Sprint and Verizon sim cards are for LTE. This watch definitely does not support LTE.
There are definitely two versions that were tested by the FCC, those were the GSM and the CDMA models. I thought at first that it might have a universal radio (CDMA/GSM hybrid) because the Snapdragon 400 in the device supports that. But the FCC didn't license it that way, so #sadface ...
The ONLY benefit to buying on on your same carrier is to get a discount on the device (if you can call Verizon's $349 a discount), and to have a discounted plan ($5-10/mo) to use its independent phone and data ... but you'd be under contract for two years ... that's a long time and quite the commitment.
Most of us just paid AT&T 299 outright and walked out with the device. Some have had to contact AT&T to request unlock, I, for some reason have NOT ... my T-Mobile sim also works in it and did out of the box ... I believe I had a VERY knowledgeable customer service rep where I bought it, and she knew what was up!!!!!! (AT&T in Henderson Nevada by the Sunset Station Mall, I will never go anywhere else! they can have all the monies :good
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Haha.
Sprint and Verizon sim cards are for LTE. This watch definitely does not support LTE.
There are definitely two versions that were tested by the FCC, those were the GSM and the CDMA models. I thought at first that it might have a universal radio (CDMA/GSM hybrid) because the Snapdragon 400 in the device supports that. But the FCC didn't license it that way, so #sadface ...
The ONLY benefit to buying on on your same carrier is to get a discount on the device (if you can call Verizon's $349 a discount), and to have a discounted plan ($5-10/mo) to use its independent phone and data ... but you'd be under contract for two years ... that's a long time and quite the commitment.
Most of us just paid AT&T 299 outright and walked out with the device. Some have had to contact AT&T to request unlock, I, for some reason have NOT ... my T-Mobile sim also works in it and did out of the box ... I believe I had a VERY knowledgeable customer service rep where I bought it, and she knew what was up!!!!!! (AT&T in Henderson Nevada by the Sunset Station Mall, I will never go anywhere else! they can have all the monies :good
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That was a good look.
I got mines at Sprint and just cashed out on it. Wasn't concerned about the price, nor the plan. Knew all about it prior to buying. I dont regret where/how I got it one bit. That $299 tag is a great deal though. Lol
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Is anyone having any luck buying a Sprint Gear S WITHOUT having to activate the data plan to go along with it?
Long Story Short - Trying to buy my girlfriend the Gear S for Christmas. She is with Sprint.
I know that the Gear S can be used without the data connection- Meaning I could just buy the AT&T watch and be good to go. But I want to buy the Sprint version of the watch on the off chance that she decides that she wants to activate the data plan... I'm not having ANY luck calling Spring and/or visiting Sprint Stores.
Any one had any luck?
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Is anyone having any luck buying a Sprint Gear S WITHOUT having to activate the data plan to go along with it?
Long Story Short - Trying to buy my girlfriend the Gear S for Christmas. She is with Sprint.
I know that the Gear S can be used without the data connection- Meaning I could just buy the AT&T watch and be good to go. But I want to buy the Sprint version of the watch on the off chance that she decides that she wants to activate the data plan... I'm not having ANY luck calling Spring and/or visiting Sprint Stores.
Any one had any luck?
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While I can't answer your question, I just wanted to let you know that if you run into walls, and Sprint refuses to help you, you could get the ATT version, unlock it, and get her a Tmo card for 15$/month.
ATT watch and Tmo plan seem to be the best combination in terms of value, especially since she would not be tied in into any kind of contract.
xendula said:
While I can't answer your question, I just wanted to let you know that if you run into walls, and Sprint refuses to help you, you could get the ATT version, unlock it, and get her a Tmo card for 15$/month.
ATT watch and Tmo plan seem to be the best combination in terms of value, especially since she would not be tied in into any kind of contract.
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Thank you so much for the suggestions! A couple follow up questions for you if you don't mind.....
1. How do I 'unlock' the ATT watch?
2. Will the unlocked ATT watch with a Tmob SIM communicate correctly with her Sprint phone??
TeldenW said:
Thank you so much for the suggestions! A couple follow up questions for you if you don't mind.....
1. How do I 'unlock' the ATT watch?
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If you have ever been an ATT customer, or know someone who is or was an ATT customer, you/they can request an unlock code for free. Turn around time is around 4 days. I walked into an ATT store and told them I wanted to buy it straight out and not activate it on ATT. No problem at all.
Otherwise, there is a UK Ebay seller who offers unlock codes for $16. I bought one not knowing if ATT would end up unlocking mine, because I only have a grandfathered data plan with them, but they did. That seller was recommended by someone here, and he said he got his unlock code in less than 24 hrs, so they seem to be legit. (Again, can't speak out of experience because ATT ended up unlocking my phone. I am sitting on an unlock code, debating if I should buy a cheap prepaid Samsung phone just so I can unlock it.) There are sites like unlocker.net that charge $39 for the same service.
All I did was put my Tmo sim card in, and the Gear S prompted me for the unlock code. Once entered, the device was open to use with whatever carrier I wanted.
2. Will the unlocked ATT watch with a Tmob SIM communicate correctly with her Sprint phone??
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Yes. Quite a few users reported successfully using their non Tmo phones with a Gear S that has a Tmo SIM in it, be it a Tmo Gear S or an unlocked ATT Gear S (Tmo won't unlock theirs). I happen to have a Tmo voice plan, but I have not read a single report where the watch was not playing nice with a different carrier on it than on the phone.
And, if I may say, that's a really cool present for your girlfriend, especially if she is active. Great choice
I kind of hate Tmo because they refused to unlock my phone, so I HATE saying anything good about them right now. But they do have the best plan AFAIK, no ties whatsoever, and specific music streaming apps don't count against the watch's 500 MB data allotment, like Milk, which i haven't used, but which comes preinstalled. The plan also includes unlimited talk&text, btw.
ETA: Check out this very long thread about buying an ATT Gear S without a contract
About 2 months ago I cancelled my T-Mobile account after some bad experiences with them. I had my LG V10 on lease with them, not yet fully paid. At the same time I convinced the representative to unlock my phone so I could switch to another carrier. I asked her if I needed to do anything and she said no, she can do it remotely, then told me it was all done. My phone was under some old guarantee that I could continue paying off the phone monthly instead of all at once (apparently that's since vanished, and they have no record of that guarantee ever existing. Figures.)
Anyway, I was happy to have an unlocked phone. But a few weeks ago I got a letter asking me to pay up the remaining balance or be sent to a collection agency. I couldn't, so they did. Yesterday I called T-Mobile to find out if my phone was unlocked and they said that since my account was closed and in collection, they couldn't check or tell me, and to call the agency. I did, and the collection rep didn't seem to want to give me a straight answer. His answers were (paraphrasing): "There's some things T-Mobile doesn't want us telling you (the consumer); "I'm going to choose my words carefully"; and, If you pay off your balance T-Mobile may unlock your phone." He repeated the last one whenever I asked additional questions. I figure he could've just said no, your phone is not unlocked.
So I'm thinking that since my phone was remotely unlocked by T-Mobile just before closing my account, that it's still unlocked and they just don't want to confirm it to me for fear that I may not pay them back as fast. My question is, if T-Mobile unlocked my phone before closing my account, could they re-lock it, wven without an active account? Also, could the rep have lied to me about having unlocked my phone?
By the way, I can't do the SIM swap trick because everyone I know uses micro sim and my phone uses a nano sim. Also there isn't a cell store anywhere near me.
Oh, I did an IMEI check online on Swappa and it said Activation Status: Clear, not blacklisted, and identified my phone as either LG V10 (T-Mobile) or LG V10 (Unlocked). Not sure what that means. Did a check on another site and under carrier code it said T-Mobile, and carrier code TMO.
Did you get your phone from tmobile? Aka model h901? It should have the tmobile unlock app already installed which will tell you if it's unlocked or eligible to be unlocked. They would have told you to use it to unlock it in the first place.
Also, a collection agency isn't going to know anything about tmobile services, they'll say anything to get your money. It's a completely separate company.
I'd be more worried that tmobile blacklisted your imei rather than having it locked since you didn't pay off your lease.
I bought verizon phones when they had the specials to get free devices. Dumb idea because it cost me almost 200 per month in service when I should have just bought one unlocked.
My question is, if at all possible can verizon somehow lock my phone so it cant be used entirely because I quit paying for service? It is right now sim unlocked. I just factory reset it and with the verizon sim out I didnt download the esim from verizon during setup. I used wifi to download visible (current provider) and their app installed the esim. It works. Im just wondering if verizon can somehow get the phone to in any way lock when I dont pay. the deal was they'd add promo credits to my bill to pay off the phones over 32 months.
I read somewhere about oem unlocking and running a graphene OS verizon might somehow still be able to revert back to its android OS install and lock the phone...
Im pretty upset I bought these when i wasnt thinking right lol. I didnt know verizon was so strict on bootloaders out of anyone...i cant even use graphene on it which is why i got the dumb thing.
Just FYI Im going to pay off the devices. The contract says I have to at least pay for data on one device to still get the promo credits. Which means the $20 5G for the tablet...not sure if they intended on me figuring that out. I just don't have the cash now to pay it off in full and wanna experiment with the phone.
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I bought verizon phones when they had the specials to get free devices. Dumb idea because it cost me almost 200 per month in service when I should have just bought one unlocked.
My question is, if at all possible can verizon somehow lock my phone so it cant be used entirely because I quit paying for service? It is right now sim unlocked. I just factory reset it and with the verizon sim out I didnt download the esim from verizon during setup. I used wifi to download visible (current provider) and their app installed the esim. It works. Im just wondering if verizon can somehow get the phone to in any way lock when I dont pay. the deal was they'd add promo credits to my bill to pay off the phones over 32 months.
I read somewhere about oem unlocking and running a graphene OS verizon might somehow still be able to revert back to its android OS install and lock the phone...
Im pretty upset I bought these when i wasnt thinking right lol. I didnt know verizon was so strict on bootloaders out of anyone...i cant even use graphene on it which is why i got the dumb thing.
Just FYI Im going to pay off the devices. The contract says I have to at least pay for data on one device to still get the promo credits. Which means the $20 5G for the tablet...not sure if they intended on me figuring that out. I just don't have the cash now to pay it off in full and wanna experiment with the phone.
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They cannot sim lock the device because the device is off contact now, however you cannot unlock the bootloader due to it being a Verizon device.
JOEWTFDOE said:
I bought verizon phones when they had the specials to get free devices. Dumb idea because it cost me almost 200 per month in service when I should have just bought one unlocked.
My question is, if at all possible can verizon somehow lock my phone so it cant be used entirely because I quit paying for service? It is right now sim unlocked. I just factory reset it and with the verizon sim out I didnt download the esim from verizon during setup. I used wifi to download visible (current provider) and their app installed the esim. It works. Im just wondering if verizon can somehow get the phone to in any way lock when I dont pay. the deal was they'd add promo credits to my bill to pay off the phones over 32 months.
I read somewhere about oem unlocking and running a graphene OS verizon might somehow still be able to revert back to its android OS install and lock the phone...
Im pretty upset I bought these when i wasnt thinking right lol. I didnt know verizon was so strict on bootloaders out of anyone...i cant even use graphene on it which is why i got the dumb thing.
Just FYI Im going to pay off the devices. The contract says I have to at least pay for data on one device to still get the promo credits. Which means the $20 5G for the tablet...not sure if they intended on me figuring that out. I just don't have the cash now to pay it off in full and wanna experiment with the phone.
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Have you made any effort to disable automatic updates?
I would expect their best chance to assert control would be when installing an update. I would disable automatic updates if possible, set the flag that says "do not use data", mark your wi-fi connection as "metered".
If the deal was you pay for 32 months to get whatever deal you agreed to, I think you are obliged to pay for 32 months. Re-read the contract, see what the "early opt-out" terms are like.
If you just stop using Verizon services, without telling Verizon that you are cancelling, I don't think you can consider yourself to have "stopped using Verizon".