Why there isn't any development with custom kernels for MIUI roms? - Xiaomi Redmi 3s Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi friends and dear developers..
I've been in this community since many years. I've been using Sony phones and then xiaomi phones.
> I've always seen that there are most kernels developed only for Cyanogen(now Lineage) based ROMs.
I accept that Lineage based ROMS are much much better in terms of performance and fluidity, and I love many roms out there.
But I always see xiaomi users get back to MIUI one day or another, since it has it own advantages, especially looks.
So my real query is, why don't we concentrate atleast a little on kernels for MIUI roms as well??
So friends, kindly share your views and suggestions, so that developers might take a look into this.
Love you all for your valuable time and knowledge. :good::highfive:

ashok weird said:
Hi friends and dear developers..
I've been in this community since many years. I've been using Sony phones and then xiaomi phones.
> I've always seen that there are most kernels developed only for Cyanogen(now Lineage) based ROMs.
I accept that Lineage based ROMS are much much better in terms of performance and fluidity, and I love many roms out there.
But I always see xiaomi users get back to MIUI one day or another, since it has it own advantages, especially looks.
So my real query is, why don't we concentrate atleast a little on kernels for MIUI roms as well??
So friends, kindly share your views and suggestions, so that developers might take a look into this.
Love you all for your valuable time and knowledge. :good::highfive:
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MIUI is outdated most of us using XDA only use custom ROMs,take me for an example I used MIUI in my redmi 3s only initial 3~5 months after that when I heard xioami won't upgrade redmi 3s to nougat ,I switched to custom ROM since then I never gone back to MIUI ,heck I even forgot I'm using xiaomi device.
There is bunch of up-to-date Oreo custom ROMs available for our device,as for MIUI it only stuck in Android marshmallow with April 2017 security patch which is one year old.so do u really think developers should care about MIUI?if normal users don't want to use MIUI ,then why should developers waste their time to create kernel,which nobody gonna use? Besides kernel development for our device is generally not that great compared to santoni and other redmi devices,so yeah this my opinion on this matter,if in future xiaomi decided to upgrade all devices to up-to-date Android(which I doubt),I'm sure developers will create more kernels for MIUI,even then custom ROMs will always dominate.
As for themes,since you're not new here,you at least heard about substratum theme engine/OMS give it a try,it's better than MIUI theming.

If you really want to stick to MIUI (official or custom Marshmallow based) you can use PerXepted kernel by Nichcream : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-3s/development/kernel-perxepted-16-aug-t3657329
It is excellent.

SMR96 said:
MIUI is outdated most of us using XDA only use custom ROMs,take me for an example I used MIUI in my redmi 3s only initial 3~5 months after that when I heard xioami won't upgrade redmi 3s to nougat ,I switched to custom ROM since then I never gone back to MIUI ,heck I even forgot I'm using xiaomi device.
There is bunch of up-to-date Oreo custom ROMs available for our device,as for MIUI it only stuck in Android marshmallow with April 2017 security patch which is one year old.so do u really think developers should care about MIUI?if normal users don't want to use MIUI ,then why should developers waste their time to create kernel,which nobody gonna use? Besides kernel development for our device is generally not that great compared to santoni and other redmi devices,so yeah this my opinion on this matter,if in future xiaomi decided to upgrade all devices to up-to-date Android(which I doubt),I'm sure developers will create more kernels for MIUI,even then custom ROMs will always dominate.
As for themes,since you're not new here,you at least heard about substratum theme engine/OMS give it a try,it's better than MIUI theming.
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Thank you for your detailed explanation. And i totally agree with you buddy.. Except the fact that there are end users who still love MIUI (even though android version isn't updated and yes it sucks very much)..
And yes I have used substratum theme engine, its really great though

Manzing said:
If you really want to stick to MIUI (official or custom Marshmallow based) you can use PerXepted kernel by Nichcream : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-3s/development/kernel-perxepted-16-aug-t3657329
It is excellent.
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Yeah bro I have used it already.. It haven't been updated since long... And I hope it won't be updated anymore....
Because like SMR96 bro said, miui isn't updated (in terms of android version or security patch). Hence developers won't take much interest in updating kernel for an outdated ROM

ashok weird said:
Yeah bro I have used it already.. It haven't been updated since long... And I hope it won't be updated anymore....
Because like SMR96 bro said, miui isn't updated (in terms of android version or security patch). Hence developers won't take much interest in updating kernel for an outdated ROM
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It has been updated in january 2018, this is not so bad. The real problem is due to MIUI security patch level, april 2017 is not acceptable.
But sadly, nobody tried to add new security patch to MIUI.

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Any chance of us getting a nougat MIUI rom?

I read that we're stuck with marshmallow on official miui. Is there a chance we that we get a custom MIUI rom that is on nougat? I'm not really a fan of aosp based roms for our device since they are buggy for me. No offense to the devs. So far MIUI based roms are the ones that performed the best for me. Best call quality(note I live in US so ymmv.) And multirom with muh 2gb free ram lol. Anyway, the only think that I am lacking on MIUI roms is vulkan api.
So it would really be nice to have a nougat based miui on our phone. :laugh:
Its not gonna happen most probably.
Redmi devices only get one major android update i think.
Multirom uses wrong calculation to display more free ram ( ram is to be used anyway).
Call quality should be same on both
We will get but not anytime soon..
Nope. Redmi line gets only one OS update, which was Marshmallow. RN3 was released with Lollipop. No more OS updates.
What about KATE?
it was released with MM.
armo1111 said:
What about KATE?
it was released with MM.
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Probably not, because it was special edition, but if it will it will work on kenzo too

Onyx ROM : AOKP vs LineageOS

Hi,
As OnePlus is not updating anymore Onyx since last november I'm considering installing a custom rom.
For now my choices are on AOKP and Lineage OS.
I want something light but secure.
I don't need billions of features.
Does anyone has experienced both roms on Onyx and could give some feedbacks ?
Thanks a lot !
Regards,
Lineage is simply no go.
I think GZR are most stable ones.
There is a minimal feature build of jdc available on afh you can try that, imo it is the best nougat based rom for onyx at the moment(may change once pa hits the market).
Try Tesla from the thread here if you are looking fir stable 7.1.2 ROM
W!ld said:
Lineage is simply no go.
I think GZR are most stable ones.
There is a minimal feature build of jdc available on afh you can try that, imo it is the best nougat based rom for onyx at the moment(may change once pa hits the market).
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I will have a look at GZR.
I never heard about it before.
What's wrong about LineageOS ?
Big Update The King SultanXda Might support onyx.
So whenever his N based rom is out it will be the most stable and complete rom for onyx(he is the best dev out there).
I use XenonHD: fast and stable, ok for daily use, no bugs, tristate ok, updated near monthly. About 4h of SOT.
I red that there's network issues with most of N roms for Onyx.
Is it true and anyone has experienced it with GZR?
Sultan is great but...
W!ld said:
Big Update The King SultanXda Might support onyx.
So whenever his N based rom is out it will be the most stable and complete rom for onyx(he is the best dev out there).
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I'd rather get Tutorials from Sultan than wait for him to develop OPX ROM - I appreciate he is just trying to survive like everyone else.
He's great but I have to be able to understand & do for myself. I can't afford ISP but would pay SultanXda to put out Tutorial Videos using OnePlus X as an example device, so I could learn from him.
Can't wait for anyone, its too dependent better to learn for myself & teach others so they can be independent too.
I went back to OOS 3.1.4 there are too many apps I don't use on it but I like OOS Style just wish I could remove unwanted google apps get security updates on it at least
Fstop said:
I'd rather get Tutorials from Sultan than wait for him to develop OPX ROM - I appreciate he is just trying to survive like everyone else.
He's great but I have to be able to understand & do for myself. I can't afford ISP but would pay SultanXda to put out Tutorial Videos using OnePlus X as an example device, so I could learn from him.
Can't wait for anyone, its too dependent better to learn for myself & teach others so they can be independent too.
I went back to OOS 3.1.4 there are too many apps I don't use on it but I like OOS Style just wish I could remove unwanted google apps get security updates on it at least
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Sultan's overbooked...
Someone is going to cook a Sultans's lost within a few weeks.
You will have a basis if you want to work on it...
Hoops, here in fact !!
Anyone has tried aokp nougat nightlies? Are they stable enough to be used as daily driver?

Roms official for honor 9

So is there a chance to have official roms for honor 9?
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-9-kernel-source-released/
Maybe if you looked inside the thread you posted on, There is Lineage OS & Resurrection remix so far
We have some creativ and very good devs here. They need some time for building a stable AOSP base. I know its hard to wait but they do the best to improve our Device. Remember no eta and respect the Rules its a hard job, they do it for free. Donations are Welcome aswell for the Devs
Maybe.
Just keep this in mind, it doesn't matter that much if we get official state or not, what matters the most is getting all the hardware amd features working properly
MotoE2014 said:
So is there a chance to have official roms for honor 9?
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-9-kernel-source-released/
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No, it will take some ages(a year or more) to get offical

Best ROM at this time ??

Hi all,
I am on Epic since long time and would like to know what will be the best custom ROM for our Redmi Note 4X ?
With argues if possible.:angel:
Thanks for all:good:
Regarads
miui10 pro
u_no_fr said:
Hi all,
I am on Epic since long time and would like to know what will be the best custom ROM for our Redmi Note 4X ?
With argues if possible.:angel:
Thanks for all:good:
Regarads
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First thing it's wrong section
custom ROM depends on users choice and usage and different people may have different views
if you look for best stability but limited customization opt for omni ROM or AOSP-E
If you looking for super customisations then go for CrDroid, Resurrection Remix, Havoc-OS etc
but if you looking for balanced one along with decent battery backup go for MiracleDroid
my recommendation CrDroid
daily driver ( must try) : MiracleDroid
I found that the latest AOSiP (Illusion Project) combined with Stormguard kernel gave me really excellent battery life, had lots of options and good performance.
I also really like Alexey711's LineageOS Extended. I don't think he posts here on XDA, but keeps his wares on AFH. He updates regularly and provides lots of good options.
Then lastly, I also love MIUI 10. I prefer Xiaomi.eu's version, but also really like Escobar1945's version (eagerly waiting for that update!).
In the end though, every single user has different needs and different usage patterns. Best thing is to try them all. Try different combinations of ROMs and kernels until you find one that works best for you.
For me is Android P
Electro CZE said:
For me is Android P
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There are Android P roms here?
ForgottenDude said:
There are Android P roms here?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4/how-to/experimantal-android-p-dp3-t3817446
epic rom is very good; i like these options: second space, dual apps,apps lock, themes, but i need dual boot for test other roms. but it dosen't support oreo roms.
elhattak7 said:
epic rom is very good; i like these options: second space, dual apps,apps lock, themes, but i need dual boot for test other roms. but it dosen't support oreo roms.
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The same functions have Xiaomi.eu rom... Or even Global rom.
sorry for wrong section, admin could move my thread if needed
ForgottenDude said:
There are Android P roms here?
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Yeaah ! And newest version of Android P u can look
https://www.google.cz/amp/s/forum.x...w-to/experimantal-android-p-dp3-t3817446/amp/
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There Is bug when u will use fingerprint scanner. And then when u restart system , system delete your fingerprint And u need again make fingerprint setup

Andeoid pie?

Will we get android pie roms?
i am really interested in the pixel experience.
I was a mtk user and a porter ...can i port other pie rom like xiaomi note 4's with same kernel version ?
i am new so treat me like a noob:good:
mona356 said:
Will we get android pie roms?
i am really interested in the pixel experience.
I was a mtk user and a porter ...can i port other pie rom like xiaomi note 4's with same kernel version ?
i am new so treat me like a noob:good:
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I'm very sad to see R5+ development is currently dead. I was hoping someone would build a Pixel Experience or any AOSP based ROM for our device but even the oreo roms are dead or finalized already. So i don't think people have anymore interest in R5+..
bdogan1912 said:
I'm very sad to see R5+ development is currently dead. I was hoping someone would build a Pixel Experience or any AOSP based ROM for our device but even the oreo roms are dead or finalized already. So i don't think people have anymore interest in R5+..
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The real problem is lack of updated Oreo kernel sources (how much less Pie). This means, for example, that certain display panels (eg, ebbg) cannot be supported by custom ROMs (you might have to go back to Nougat kernels for that).
Why not write to Xiaomi to release up-to-date Oreo kernel sources for vince in the first instance? If enough people make a fuss, perhaps something will happen ...
DarthJabba9 said:
The real problem is lack of updated Oreo kernel sources (how much less Pie). This means, for example, that certain display panels (eg, ebbg) cannot be supported by custom ROMs (you might have to go back to Nougat kernels for that).
Why not write to Xiaomi to release up-to-date Oreo kernel sources for vince in the first instance? If enough people make a fuss, perhaps something will happen ...
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Xiaomi however isn't listening their customers. A big example is ARB system which absolutely destroys devices. So i guess we are gonna stay dead until something shows up..

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