Japanese "V35" is really V30+
bilalsul said:
Help Please
I bought LG V35 seller told me it is locked on japanese network isai.
But i cannot find the exact model number to unlock my device or flash.
In the back there are some BRANDING au isai LGV35
but when i try to root with kingo app it says JOAN
even XDA cannot recognize my device
please help me ...
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Keep reading, I'm taking care of the boring stuff first.
1) I'm answering your question here in the Q&A section. Please do not ask general questions about a phone in custom ROM thread. Your question has nothing to do with that ROM, where you posted your question.
2) This is the V30 forum, not the V35 forum -- but your phone may be an exception. I'll explain in a second.
3) Kingo root app? Please. Nothing like that is going to bootloader unlock and root a V30 or V35. It's only going to try to infest your phone with malware and send your IMEI back to China. There's no such thing as 1-click roots for V30, V35, G7.
4) If you were interested in rooting your phone you would have researched here on XDA first before buying the phone. There are many phones which do not have root and will never have root (2015 Kinzie Verizon Droid Turbo 2, for instance.) Even when seemingly guaranteed root, like with LG's "open market" US998 V30/V30+, LG broke it's implied promises. Only thanks to their wonderful Oreo bootloader unlock exploit which @TxanMoe found does every V30/V30+/V30S -- except T-mobile H932 -- have bootloader unlock and root. Point is, don't buy a phone without researching first. Don't buy a phone, then come to XDA to find out whether it can or can't be rooted.
5) Now the good stuff. Japan LG phones are DIFFERENT. They demand different model numbers, sometimes different specs. Japan also still uses the 4G WiMax protocol, besides using the 4G LTE protocol. (Google if you don't know what WiMax is.) The Japan LG V20 was called the LG "V34", and had different (smaller) dimensions from the LG V20. Internally it was an LG V20, but for the Japanese market it was V34 (isai Beat).
Japan-exclusive LG V34 is a 5.2" waterproof version of the V20
The isai Beat keeps everything that’s awesome about the V20 - the secondary always on screen, the dual-camera on the back, the dual-FoV selfie cam, the quad-DAC setup, B&O branding, Android 7.0 Nougat on Snapdragon 820 with 4GB of RAM and 32GB storage.
Except, of course, the screen is 5.2" big rather than 5.7" big. Despite the smaller size, the phone kept the (presumably removable) 3,000mAh battery.
It is a mini version of the LG V20, except a little better since it is IP67 waterproof while the V20 doesn’t have even basic splash resistance.
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It was ONLY released in Japan.
What does that have to do with YOUR 2017 "V35" phone? The Japanese V20 was called the V34. The 2017 Japanese V30+ is called the "V35". It is completely different from the 2018 LG V35 released here in the U.S. and to AT&T, B&H Photo, and Google Fi. The Japanese "V35" was released last November 2017 to Japan with Oreo already installed, and is exclusive to Japan. It's a V30+ for Japan market called "V35", as the successor to the V34.
If you go here, to LG.com website for Japan (note this is OFFICIAL LG website!), and use Google translate....
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
You will see it's a 128GB V30+ with 4GB RAM and Snapdragon 835.
Towards the bottom they even mention the free VR goggles promotion for the V30+:
Let's experience the latest VR, Daydream with V30 + as soon as possible !!
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So, your phone is really a V30+, it really is JOAN (not the JUDYP of the other 2028 V35). It possibly can be bootloader unlocked and rooted, and use @SGCMarkus JOAN TWRP for V30.
And yes, this is totally confusing for all the other 2018 V35 owners who have been correctly told their phone is NOT a V30 and is totally different. But using one of the CPU type apps on Google Play, you can easily see the difference is YOUR phone has Snapdragon 835 and the other 2018V35 (AT&T, Google Fi) have Snapdragon 845.
6) I had researched a little about the Japanese 2017 V35 before and thought the Japanese press was mistaken in calling it a V30+ when it was released. I thought it was just the first of the V35 which were then released here in the U.S. a few months later. No, from the LG.com website the the Japanese "V35" is indeed a V30+.
How do you bootloader unlock and root it? How do you carrier unlock it? You would have revert back KDZ with pre-July 2018 security patch for bootloader unlock and root, IF your phone has fastboot flash commands. If it doesn't then you would have to Frankenstein (convert) your V30+ to a carrier unlocked H930DS, which does has fastboot flash commands. That would also carrier unlock it, if it doesn't totally brick it. I assume you don't need the WiMax 4G stuff? Only LTE? Being "exclusive" Japanese, it might have some of the complications the Korean V30/V30+ variants have. They have to flash to H930, bootloader unlock and root, then flash to US998 to get modem back working.
Good luck!
7) You have an interesting phone -- but if it's carrier locked to a Japanese network you don't use, then it's not much use to you. Theoretically, you can bootloader unlock it, and possibly carrier unlock it. But it's going to be a lot of work and there's probability you will brick your phone. I really don't know about the Japanese V30+ variants... Whereas, you can buy "mint" LS998 V30+ on eBay for a little over US$300 and easily Frankenstein them to carrier unlocked US998 V30+, bootloader unlock and root them. See point #4. Research FIRST before buying a phone.
Japanese LGV35 is NOT "LG V35", it is named "isai V30+ (LGV35)"
LGV35 is Japanese career au's model numbers, not product name.
https://www.au.com/mobile/product/smartphone/lgv35/
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
So, Japanese localized "isai V30+ (LGV35)" = Global "LG V30+"
Also, Japanese LGV34 is NOT "LG V34", it is named "isai Beat (LGV34)"
LGV34 is Japanese career au's model numbers, not product name.
https://www.au.com/mobile/product/smartphone/lgv34/
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV34
So, Japanese localized "isai Beat (LGV34)" = Global "LG Q8" = Global 5.2 inch waterproof "LG V20"
hnpn914 said:
Japanese LGV35 is NOT "LG V35", it is named "isai V30+ (LGV35)"
LGV35 is Japanese career au's model numbers, not product name.
https://www.au.com/mobile/product/smartphone/lgv35/
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
So, Japanese localized "isai V30+ (LGV35)" = Global "LG V30+"
Also, Japanese LGV34 is NOT "LG V34", it is named "isai Beat (LGV34)"
LGV34 is Japanese career au's model numbers, not product name.
https://www.au.com/mobile/product/smartphone/lgv34/
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV34
So, Japanese localized "isai Beat (LGV34)" = Global "LG Q8" = Global 5.2 inch waterproof "LG V20"
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Exactly what I said. Japan LG V35 is really a V30+. You even posted some of the same links I posted. By the way, LG chooses model numbers -- like H930, H932, H930G, US998, LS998, VS996, H930DS, so LG also chose LGV35 -- NOT the carrier. U.S. Cellular AND open market variants are both US998. US Cellular did NOT choose that, LG did. LG also chose LGV35 for this Japanese carrier. Just as US998 is sometimes written as US 998, and LS998 is written as LS 998, LGV35 can be written as LG V35.
LG V35 officially unveiled in Japan with Android Oreo
LG Japan has officially unveiled their much-anticipated flagship smartphone of the year, AKA, the LG V35. The LG V35 is a rebranded LG V30+, which runs on Android Oreo with LG UX on the top.
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It's called the "LG V35" throughout the article and I can show a dozen more news articles writing it exactly the same way.
You can write it however you like -- LGV35, LG V35 -- but LG ALSO released V35 model number months later to AT&T, Google Fi, as a completely different phone series -- so it's confusing. LG should have called the later 2018 Snapdragon 845 JUDYP something else besides V35. That name was already taken!
At least two other people have posted here about their Japanese LG V35, so it is confusing, when we keep having to tell people the OTHER V35 is not the V30 -- but there's this one exception!
ChazzMatt said:
Japanese "V35" is really V30+
Keep reading, I'm taking care of the boring stuff first.
1) I'm answering your question here in the Q&A section. Please do not ask general questions about a phone in custom ROM thread. Your question has nothing to do with that ROM, where you posted your question.
2) This is the V30 forum, not the V35 forum -- but your phone may be an exception. I'll explain in a second.
3) Kingo root app? Please. Nothing like that is going to bootloader unlock and root a V30 or V35. It's only going to try to infest your phone with malware and send your IMEI back to China. There's no such thing as 1-click roots for V30, V35, G7.
4) If you were interested in rooting your phone you would have researched here on XDA first before buying the phone. There are many phones which do not have root and will never have root (2015 Kinzie Verizon Droid Turbo 2, for instance.) Even when seemingly guaranteed root, like with LG's "open market" US998 V30/V30+, LG broke it's implied promises. Only thanks to their wonderful Oreo bootloader unlock exploit which @TxanMoe found does every V30/V30+/V30S -- except T-mobile H932 -- have bootloader unlock and root. Point is, don't buy a phone without researching first. Don't buy a phone, then come to XDA to find out it can't be rooted.
5) Now the good stuff. Japan LG phones are DIFFERENT. They demand different model numbers, sometimes different specs. Japan also still uses the 4G WiMax protocol, besides using the 4G LTE protocol. (Google if you don't know what WiMax is.) The Japan LG V20 was called the LG "V34", and had different (smaller) dimensions from the LG V20. Internally it was an LG V20, but for the Japanese market it was V34 (isai Beat).
Japan-exclusive LG V34 is a 5.2" waterproof version of the V20
It was ONLY released in Japan.
What does that have to do with YOUR 2017 "V35" phone? The Japanese V20 was called the V34. The 2017 Japanese V30+ is called the "V35". It is completely different from the 2018 LG V35 released here in the U.S. and to AT&T, B&H Photo, and Google Fi. The Japanese "V35" was released last November 2017 to Japan with Oreo already installed, and is exclusive to Japan. It's a V30+ for Japan market called "V35", as the successor to the V34.
If you go here, to LG.com website for Japan (note this is OFFICIAL LG website!), and use Google translate....
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
You will see it's a 128GB V30+ with 4GB RAM and Snapdragon 835.
Towards the bottom they even mention the free VR goggles promotion for the V30+:
So, your phone is really a V30+, it really is JOAN (not the JUDYP of the other 2028 V35). It possibly can be bootloader unlocked and rooted, and use @SGCMarkus JOAN TWRP for V30.
And yes, this is totally confusing for all the other 2018 V35 owners who have been correctly told their phone is NOT a V30 and is totally different. But using one of the CPU type apps on Google Play, you can easily see the difference is YOUR phone has Snapdragon 835 and the other 2018V35 (AT&T, Google Fi) have Snapdragon 845.
6) I had researched a little about the Japanese 2017 V35 before and thought the Japanese press was mistaken in calling it a V30+ when it was released. I thought it was just the first of the V35 which were then released here in the U.S. a few months later. No, from the LG.com website the the Japanese "V35" is indeed a V30+.
How do you bootloader unlock and root it? How do you carrier unlock it? You would have revert back KDZ with pre-July 2018 security patch for bootloader unlock and root, IF your phone has fastboot flash commands. If it doesn't then you would have to Frankenstein (convert) your V30+ to a carrier unlocked H930DS, which does has fastboot flash commands. That would also carrier unlock it, if it doesn't totally brick it. I assume you don't need the WiMax 4G stuff? Only LTE? Being "exclusive" Japanese, it might have some of the complications the Korean V30/V30+ variants have. They have to flash to H930, bootloader unlock and root, then flash to US998 to get modem back working.
Good luck!
7) You have an interesting phone -- but if it's carrier locked to a Japanese network you don't use, then it's not much use to you. Theoretically, you can bootloader unlock it, and possibly carrier unlock it. But it's going to be a lot of work and there's probability you will brick your phone. I really don't know about the Japanese V30+ variants... Whereas, you can buy "mint" LS998 V30+ on eBay for a little over US$300 and easily Frankenstein them to carrier unlocked US998 V30+, bootloader unlock and root them. See point #4. Research FIRST before buying a phone.
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OMG ? I did not know this.
Sent from my LGM-V300S using XDA Labs
v30 network locked no fastboot
ChazzMatt said:
Japanese "V35" is really V30+
Keep reading, I'm taking care of the boring stuff first.
1) I'm answering your question here in the Q&A section. Please do not ask general questions about a phone in custom ROM thread. Your question has nothing to do with that ROM, where you posted your question.
2) This is the V30 forum, not the V35 forum -- but your phone may be an exception. I'll explain in a second.
3) Kingo root app? Please. Nothing like that is going to bootloader unlock and root a V30 or V35. It's only going to try to infest your phone with malware and send your IMEI back to China. There's no such thing as 1-click roots for V30, V35, G7.
4) If you were interested in rooting your phone you would have researched here on XDA first before buying the phone. There are many phones which do not have root and will never have root (2015 Kinzie Verizon Droid Turbo 2, for instance.) Even when seemingly guaranteed root, like with LG's "open market" US998 V30/V30+, LG broke it's implied promises. Only thanks to their wonderful Oreo bootloader unlock exploit which @TxanMoe found does every V30/V30+/V30S -- except T-mobile H932 -- have bootloader unlock and root. Point is, don't buy a phone without researching first. Don't buy a phone, then come to XDA to find out whether it can or can't be rooted.
5) Now the good stuff. Japan LG phones are DIFFERENT. They demand different model numbers, sometimes different specs. Japan also still uses the 4G WiMax protocol, besides using the 4G LTE protocol. (Google if you don't know what WiMax is.) The Japan LG V20 was called the LG "V34", and had different (smaller) dimensions from the LG V20. Internally it was an LG V20, but for the Japanese market it was V34 (isai Beat).
Japan-exclusive LG V34 is a 5.2" waterproof version of the V20
It was ONLY released in Japan.
What does that have to do with YOUR 2017 "V35" phone? The Japanese V20 was called the V34. The 2017 Japanese V30+ is called the "V35". It is completely different from the 2018 LG V35 released here in the U.S. and to AT&T, B&H Photo, and Google Fi. The Japanese "V35" was released last November 2017 to Japan with Oreo already installed, and is exclusive to Japan. It's a V30+ for Japan market called "V35", as the successor to the V34.
If you go here, to LG.com website for Japan (note this is OFFICIAL LG website!), and use Google translate....
https://www.lg.com/jp/mobile-phone/lg-LGV35
You will see it's a 128GB V30+ with 4GB RAM and Snapdragon 835.
Towards the bottom they even mention the free VR goggles promotion for the V30+:
So, your phone is really a V30+, it really is JOAN (not the JUDYP of the other 2028 V35). It possibly can be bootloader unlocked and rooted, and use @SGCMarkus JOAN TWRP for V30.
And yes, this is totally confusing for all the other 2018 V35 owners who have been correctly told their phone is NOT a V30 and is totally different. But using one of the CPU type apps on Google Play, you can easily see the difference is YOUR phone has Snapdragon 835 and the other 2018V35 (AT&T, Google Fi) have Snapdragon 845.
6) I had researched a little about the Japanese 2017 V35 before and thought the Japanese press was mistaken in calling it a V30+ when it was released. I thought it was just the first of the V35 which were then released here in the U.S. a few months later. No, from the LG.com website the the Japanese "V35" is indeed a V30+.
How do you bootloader unlock and root it? How do you carrier unlock it? You would have revert back KDZ with pre-July 2018 security patch for bootloader unlock and root, IF your phone has fastboot flash commands. If it doesn't then you would have to Frankenstein (convert) your V30+ to a carrier unlocked H930DS, which does has fastboot flash commands. That would also carrier unlock it, if it doesn't totally brick it. I assume you don't need the WiMax 4G stuff? Only LTE? Being "exclusive" Japanese, it might have some of the complications the Korean V30/V30+ variants have. They have to flash to H930, bootloader unlock and root, then flash to US998 to get modem back working.
Good luck!
7) You have an interesting phone -- but if it's carrier locked to a Japanese network you don't use, then it's not much use to you. Theoretically, you can bootloader unlock it, and possibly carrier unlock it. But it's going to be a lot of work and there's probability you will brick your phone. I really don't know about the Japanese V30+ variants... Whereas, you can buy "mint" LS998 V30+ on eBay for a little over US$300 and easily Frankenstein them to carrier unlocked US998 V30+, bootloader unlock and root them. See point #4. Research FIRST before buying a phone.
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Hello Sir, sorry to bother you again but having an issue here with my phone (Android security patch level Aug 1 2018) and the worst is i cannot enter fastboot mode while my phone is Locked on KDDI.
If there is a way around please refer me...
bilalsul said:
v30 network locked no fastboot
Hello Sir, sorry to bother you again but having an issue here with my phone (Android security patch level Aug 1 2018) and the worst is i cannot enter fastboot mode while my phone is Locked on KDDI.
If there is a way around please refer me...
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IF it's compatible, you'd have to flash another V30/V30+ KDZ to carrier unlock and get fastboot flash commands, by using dev patched LGUP. I do not know if any other V30 KDZ are compatible.
Basically you have to Frankenstein it to another V30/V30+. However, if it's not RSA encryption compatible, you run risk of bricking your phone.
For example, Korean carrier variants flash to H930 KDZ, unlock the bootloader, root, then have to flash US998 to get modem back.
But T-Mobile H932 is not RSA encryption compatible with other North American variants, so cannot Frankenstein to anything.
I really can't advise you to do that, that's your decision if want to risk bricking your phone.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
IF it's compatible, you'd have to use dev patched LGUP to flash another V30+ KDZ to carrier unlock and get fastboot flash commands. I do not know if any are compatible.
Basically you have to Frankenstein it to another V30+. However, if it's not RSA encryption compatible, you run risk of bricking your phone.
For exwmple, Korean carrier variants flash to H930 KDZ, unlock the bootloader, root, then have to flash US998 to get modem back.
I really can't advise you to go that, that's your decision if want to risk bricking your phone.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Is there anyway i can unlock the Network Subset Lock ?
I Bought the Code to unlock but when i insert the Sim Card it doesn't ask for it.
I want my phone UNLOCK.
Is it possible to Unlock it with any Unlocking Box ?
Best Regards Thanks
bilalsul said:
Is there anyway i can unlock the Network Subset Lock ?
I Bought the Code to unlock but when i insert the Sim Card it doesn't ask for it.
I want my phone UNLOCK.
Is it possible to Unlock it with any Unlocking Box ?
Best Regards Thanks
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You mean like an Octopus box?
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I mentioned it in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76325684&postcount=42
Just remember that post was written back in April 2018, when we were still figuring out the Frankenstein method. But these "boxes" were allowing online sellers and online unlockers to convert V30 phones to OTHER variants seemingly willy nilly. We found LS998 V30+ which had been converted to Canadian H933 V30+. Canada H933 doesn't officially have a V30+! Just like there's no VS996 V30+! But you can make one.
Once we figured out the PC based Frankenstein system with dev patched LGUP, then we could do almost the same thing ourselves. Since then, I even bought two mint LS998 V30+ myself and converted them to US998 V30+.
But when I made that post I expressed severe reservations about buying LS998 in the first place -- since they were SIM card locked to Sprint. Like I said, we didn't know everything we know now, and I've changed my mind on the topic.
Whether one of these boxes could help you or not. My understanding is it basically does what dev patched LGUP does. Maybe it does it more automatically and there's less chance for error? I don't know.
ChazzMatt said:
You mean like an Octopus box?
I mentioned it in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76325684&postcount=42
Just remember that post was written back in April 2018, when we were still figuring out the Frankenstein method. But these "boxes" were allowing online sellers and online unlockers to convert V30 phones to OTHER variants seemingly willy nilly. We found LS998 V30+ which had been converted to Canadian H933 V30+. Canada H933 doesn't officially have a V30+! Just like there's no VS996 V30+! But you can make one.
Once we figured out the PC based Frankenstein system with dev patched LGUP, then we could do almost the same thing ourselves. Since then, I even bought two mint LS998 V30+ myself and converted them to US998 V30+.
But when I made that post I expressed severe reservations about buying LS998 in the first place -- since they were SIM card locked to Sprint. Like I said, we didn't know everything we know now, and I've changed my mind on the topic.
Whether one of these boxes could help you or not. My understanding is it basically does what dev patched LGUP does. Maybe it does it more automatically and there's less chance for error? I don't know.
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Okay before i jump into flashing i need to know what KDZ file i need exactly. It is Dual Sim AU ISAI V35 in the back. It does not show any model number example (h930). So how can i make sure what KDZ i need really confusing
bilalsul said:
Okay before i jump into flashing i need to know what KDZ file i need exactly. It is Dual Sim AU ISAI V35 in the back. It does not show any model number example (h930). So how can i make sure what KDZ i need really confusing
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All H930DS KDZ are compatible with each other. Yes, there are some differences, like Open ESA region has India Jio Volte, and others don't.
If you're phone is compatible with other dual SIM KDZ, you could flash something like the Hong Kong KDZ. Just...
make sure You're flashing pre-July 2018 Oreo firmware.
make sure it has the word "OPEN" in the title (that link above is to H930DS20n_00_OPEN_HK_DS_OP_0416.kdz).
make sure you're flashing dev patched LGUP in DL Partition mode, with all partitions. See that link post for attached file -- dev patched LGUP, as well as instructions for installation and use. But I would probably suggest the Hong Kong KDZ to actually flash, IF you decide to do this.
But I'm warning you that you may brick your phone phone. This decision is totally up to you.
ChazzMatt said:
All H930DS KDZ are compatible with each other. Yes, there are some differences, like Open ESA region has India Jio Volte, and others don't.
If you're phone is compatible with other dual SIM KDZ, you could flash something like the Hong Kong KDZ. Just...
make sure You're flashing pre-July 2018 Oreo firmware.
make sure it has the word "OPEN" in the title (that link above is to H930DS20n_00_OPEN_HK_DS_OP_0416.kdz).
make sure you're flashing dev patched LGUP in DL Partition mode, with all partitions. See that link post for attached file -- dev patched LGUP, as well as instructions for installation and use. But I would probably suggest the Hong Kong KDZ to actually flash, IF you decide to do this.
But I'm warning you that you may brick your phone phone. This decision is totally up to you.
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Hello i am gonna flash H930DS20n_00_OPEN_HK_DS_OP_0416.kdz
On my phone issue i am facing is with LGUP i need a little more help please take a look here if this file is fine or not for my phone and how can i make LGUP working.
bilalsul said:
Hello i am gonna flash H930DS20n_00_OPEN_HK_DS_OP_0416.kdz
On my phone issue i am facing is with LGUP i need a little more help please take a look here if this file is fine or not for my phone and how can i make LGUP working.
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Error i am not sure but i think previous owner flashed something wrong please guide.
bilalsul said:
Error i am not sure but i think previous owner flashed something wrong please guide.
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It's like it thinks you really have an LG V35, instead of V30+.
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It's like it thinks you really have an LG V35, instead of V30+.
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This Device is messed up no fastboot no sim network i need kdz for v35 can you refer ?
bilalsul said:
This Device is messed up no fastboot no sim network i need kdz for v35 can you refer ?
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did you managed to root and unlock the BL of your device?
Yes i did flashed other firmware then my device to have fastboot commands and i managed to unlock BL and rooted but i couldn't unlock my phone to get sim network as it says "This Phone is permanent locked and cannot be unlocked"
Ever since using it as an iPod
Hi
how did you root the device i need the method please
Because I bought that same device but with a different software LG v3520f and it is working with my SIM
But i have a problem that when i insert the SIM the wifi start malfunctioning so I'm using it as an ipod too
Another japan variant for LG V30+
Named as L-01K (NTT DOCOMO)
Currently working with all telco in my country Malaysia but sometime it goes to roaming state as the signal drop to 3g.
I just wish to root this phone coz these japanese bloatware anoy me.. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Hi, by any chance, do you have backup of modem file for that phone? We have the same phone and I lost the signal after I flashed a US KDZ. Hoping you can lend a hand.
Thank you
Hi!
I would like to flash my unlocked AT&T (branded) H931 to an Open EU H930.
Is this possible? Anyone tried that?
Can I just update the phone in LGUP with the H930-KDZ?
Thanks in advance!
daeruin said:
Hi!
I would like to flash my unlocked AT&T (branded) H931 to an Open EU H930.
Is this possible? Anyone tried that?
Can I just update the phone in LGUP with the H930-KDZ?
Thanks in advance!
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No. Don't do it.
You can only safely flash North America variant to other North America variant. Even then, T-Mobile H932 is off limits.
ChazzMatt said:
No. Don't do it.
You can only safely flash North America variant to other North America variant. Even then, T-Mobile H932 is off limits.
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Thanks!
Are these two variant so different?
No chance to get this working?
daeruin said:
Thanks!
Are these two variant so different?
No chance to get this working?
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@TxanMoe who discovered the WTF method bricked his phone trying exactly that -- going from North America AT&T H931 to Europe H930. @runningnak3d had to help him recover back to US998.
North America variants should stay North America. There's plenty of North America variants you can flash on H931-- US998, AS998, H933, VS996.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
@TxanMoe who discovered the WTF method bricked his phone trying exactly that -- going from North America AT&T H931 to Europe H930. @runningnak3d had to help him recover back to US998.
North America variants should stay North America. There's plenty of North America variants you can flash on H931-- US998, AS998, H933, VS996.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Alright! Thank you!
Can I flash these other us-variants directly with LGUP?
Anything I have to pay attention for? Do I need these .dll files?
daeruin said:
Alright! Thank you!
Can I flash these other us-variants directly with LGUP?
Anything I have to pay attention for? Do I need these .dll files?
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You need to follow the Frankenstein instructions. There's a specific order to do the flashing and you use Dev Patched LGUP. To convert H931 to US998, you have to flash US998 Nougat first, do a Master Reset, then flash US998 Oreo. It's all in the instructions.
ChazzMatt said:
You need to follow the Frankenstein instructions. There's a specific order to do the flashing and you use Dev Patched LGUP. To convert H931 to US998, you have to flash US998 Nougat first, do a Master Reset, then flash US998 Oreo. It's all in the instructions.
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Ok, I´ll try it! Thanks! :good:
ChazzMatt said:
You need to follow the Frankenstein instructions. There's a specific order to do the flashing and you use Dev Patched LGUP. To convert H931 to US998, you have to flash US998 Nougat first, do a Master Reset, then flash US998 Oreo. It's all in the instructions.
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OK, I´ll try it! Thanks! :good:
I flashed my H931 to US998 like in the Frankenstein instructions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76510671&postcount=168
Everything worked perfect!
The US998 seems just right for me - all bands I need and all functions are now working as they should (with the branded H931 AT&T I had wifi-tethering problems)
Thanks for the help!
daeruin said:
I flashed my H931 to US998 like in the Frankenstein instructions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76510671&postcount=168
Everything worked perfect!
The US998 seems just right for me - all bands I need and all functions are now working as they should (with the branded H931 AT&T I had wifi-tethering problems)
Thanks for the help!
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Yep, those are the instructions I wrote. Glad you got what you needed.
Hello!
Is unlocked H931 free to use on other operators without flashing?
What is the purpose of installing another rom if yes?
thalamix said:
Hello!
Is unlocked H931 free to use on other operators without flashing?
What is the purpose of installing another rom if yes?
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If truly carrier unlocked and still H931 firmware, you CAN use on other operators -- but you still won't get updates. AT&T only gives updates to customers on their network and they don't publicly release KDZ. They only give OTA updates.
Bottom line: only AT&T customers want H931 firmware... For everyone else, it's useless.
By using Frankenstein method, you convert H931 to a North America carrier unlocked model which WILL receive KDZ updates. There are several North America carrier unlocked variants, but US998 is most popular.
Also, H931 doesn't have fastboot flash commands, so can't be bootloader unlocked and rooted as "H931". (But you can convert back to H931 after bootloader unlock and root, if you wish -- using a TWRP-flashable H931 stock firmware ROM.) Of all the North America variants, US998 has fastboot flash commands.
Also, H931 doesn't have fastboot flash commands, so can't be bootloader unlocked and rooted as "H931". (But you can convert back to H931 after bootloader unlock and root, if you wish -- using a TWRP-flashable H931 stock firmware ROM.) Of all the North America variants, US998 has fastboot flash commands.
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I'm an att prepaid customer. Will it have adb after flash to us998 and bootloader unlock, and then flashing back?
Is it true that I want to flash back to h931 because there are two lte bands I need enables for full coverage?
I'm assuming there are no ways to enable those radios while on us998?
Will this work the same with the ls998 v30+? Ie., flash to us998, unlock, root, flash to h931 to get my bands?
Thanks
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Also, H931 doesn't have fastboot flash commands, so can't be bootloader unlocked and rooted as "H931". (But you can convert back to H931 after bootloader unlock and root, if you wish -- using a TWRP-flashable H931 stock firmware ROM.) Of all the North America variants, US998 has fastboot flash commands.
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I'm an att prepaid customer. Will it have adb after flash to us998 and bootloader unlock, and then flashing back?
Is it true that I want to flash back to h931 because there are two lte bands I need enables for full coverage?
I'm assuming there are no ways to enable those radios while on us998?
Will this work the same with the ls998 v30+? Ie., flash to us998, unlock, root, flash to h931 to get my bands?
Thanks
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If you read the part you quoted... of the North American variants, only US998 has fastboot flash commands. But if your bootloader is unlocked on US998 and you have TWRP installed, then you can flash H931 stock ROM (aka TWRP-flashable zip) to convert back to H931. Then you will have all the H931 bands.
With TWRP installed, you don't need ADB any more. We are only using ADB to unlock bootloader and install TWRP.
I think it's fair to point out that once you convert H931 to US998 by flashing the US998 KDZ, you can never fully convert back to H931, as no KDZs are available from AT&T. You can flash the H931 ROM with TWRP, but not the full firmware.
For most people that's not a problem, as US998 is superior to H931 in almost every way.
Only concern would be that you'd never receive OTA updates again, even if you're an AT&T customer. All updates will have to be manual (which I prefer anyway, but some people may be different).
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I think it's fair to point out that once you convert H931 to US998 by flashing the US998 KDZ, you can never fully convert back to H931, as no KDZs are available from AT&T. You can flash the H931 ROM with TWRP, but not the full firmware.
For most people that's not a problem, as US998 is superior to H931 in almost every way.
Only concern would be that you'd never receive OTA updates again, even if you're an AT&T customer. All updates will have to be manual (which I prefer anyway, but some people may be different).
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Right, but the AT&T customers (very few) are people who want unlocked bootloader and TWRP. They can get that, and with TWRP-flashable zip, can also get AT&T features and those two extra bands back, IF they are AT&T customers.
However, most of the people (like the person who started this thread) who buy these H931 are NOT AT&T customers. This person wanted an EU H930, but got an H931 because it was probably cheaper.
These 2017 H931 phones are being sold around the world on eBay or eBay type sites as "UNLOCKED" LG V30 H931. Yes, they are carrier unlocked by code -- but will not receive updates for these owners who live all over the world. The only way to do that is to convert to another North American variant and use LGUP to update. The best choice is US998 firmware. (And just converting to update has nothing to do with bootloader unlock and root -- which some people don't want to do, they just want updates.)
These people don't care they will never be able to return to unrooted, bootloader locked stock H931 AT&T firmware -- as they can just sell the phone as pure stock bootloader locked US998 on eBay or whatever. The same way converted LS998 V30+ are sold as US998 V30+.
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Right, but the AT&T customers (very few) are people who want unlocked bootloader and TWRP. They can get that, and with TWRP-flashable zip, can also get AT&T features and those two extra bands back, IF they are AT&T customers.
However, most of the people (like the person who started this thread) who buy these H931 are NOT AT&T customers. This person wanted an EU H930, but got an H931 because it was probably cheaper.
These 2017 H931 phones are being sold around the world on eBay or eBay type sites as "UNLOCKED" LG V30 H931. Yes, they are carrier unlocked by code -- but will not receive updates for these owners who live all over the world. The only way to do that is to convert to another North American variant and use LGUP to update. The best choice is US998 firmware. (And just converting to update has nothing to do with bootloader unlock and root -- which some people don't want to do, they just want updates.)
These people don't care they will never be able to return to unrooted, bootloader locked stock H931 AT&T firmware -- as they can just sell the phone as pure stock bootloader locked US998 on eBay or whatever. The same way converted LS998 V30+ are sold as US998 V30+.
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I think you know I agree with all that. If I had an H931 myself, I would convert it in a heartbeat. If my H932 could be converted to US998 I would do so too (despite loosing band 71).
But not everybody is the same. For example, while I know it wasn't a concern to you, preserving my 2-year warranty was necessary for me in case of hardware issues, and held me back from rooting for almost a year. To others, downloading KDZs from a non-LG site and installing them with Dev Patched LGUP -- simple enough for you and me -- may seem rather involved compared to receiving an OTA update. And yet others may want to be able to sell their phones as complete stock to a user who has absolutely no idea what we are talking about on XDA, and who expects OTAs like if they'd bought the phone from AT&T.
So, everybody is different. Which is why I think it is fair to at least mention the consequences of procedures we advocate here. And I advocate them too, so I am in completely sync with you there
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I think you know I agree with all that. If I had an H931 myself, I would convert it in a heartbeat. If my H932 could be converted to US998 I would do so too (despite loosing band 71).
But not everybody is the same. For example, while I know it wasn't a concern to you, preserving my 2-year warranty was necessary for me in case of hardware issues, and held me back from rooting for almost a year. To others, downloading KDZs from a non-LG site and installing them with Dev Patched LGUP -- simple enough for you and me -- may seem rather involved compared to receiving an OTA update. And yet others may want to be able to sell their phones as complete stock to a user who has absolutely no idea what we are talking about on XDA, and who expects OTAs like if they'd bought the phone from AT&T.
So, everybody is different. Which is why I think it is fair to at least mention the consequences of procedures we advocate here. And I advocate them too, so I am in completely sync with you there
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While what you say is correct, there are many reasons you cannot get an OTA on an LG phone...
* My wife can not get an OTA on her completely stock native B&H Photo US998, which has never been bootloader unlocked.. Others with B&H Photo (which is the OFFICIAL carrier unlocked US998) have come here complaining they are stuck on Nougat since 2018.
* Older India H930DS owners can not get an OTA update on their phones. (LG changed the supply chain for the newer India H930DS phones and older ones can no longer receive OTA updates.). These are people who bought India H930DS brand new, when first released in India and LG has abandoned them.
My point is: LG OTA updates are never guaranteed in any way whatsoever.
That does not prevent those people from selling those US998 or H930DS phones, just because it doesn't receive OTA updates. That's not important when selling the phone. It's a used phone, sold as is.
At some point I'm going to sell my wife's phone, and it's going to be sold as genuine carrier unlocked US998 -- and I'm never going to mention I had to MANUALLY update it to Oreo and probably to Pie (when it becomes available and is stable). I'm not going to mention it doesn't get OTA updates.. It's going to be sold as-is.
These H931 people come here looking for solutions because they cannot update their phone. So, I'm not going to talk about potential problems for potential future owners. I'm going to solve the current owner's problem right now. Future owners will probably be glad that it's a carrier unlocked US998.
Same with LS998. They HAVE to convert to another variant -- to not only carrier unlock, but to get updates. I'm NOT going to tell them they can't carrier unlock their phone because of FUTURE owners who may want stock LS998 on Sprint?
I'm not arguing with you, I'm just telling you why I will never ever talk about OTA updates for someone who doesn't own this phone right now.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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While what you say is correct, there are many reasons you cannot get an OTA on an LG phone...
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I'm not arguing with you, I'm just telling you why I will never ever talk about OTA updates for someone who doesn't own this phone right now.
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All right, buddy. We'll just agree to disagree on that. And that's OK with me. Having seen all the good you do for the V30 community over the last couple years, you're the last person I want to pick a fight with. :good:
I bought an LG V30, but is the model VS996 and i having issues with the Verizon customization, coz for example i cant enable 4g calling due i dont have Verizon SIM.
Other issue am having is that i cant conect 4g data even when i put the apn, if i switch to 2g and the come back to 4g i can activate 4g data but later the problema comes back, and is very weird and annoying.
I think my problems can be solved if i change my firmware, so i have 2 questions:
Whats the best oficial unlocked firmware (with no phone company) for the lg v30?
And my device is unlocked
If i change the firmware my phone locks again? Coz in the country where i live theres no Verizon so i wont be able to unlock it again.
Thaks if someone responds
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I bought an LG V30, but is the model VS996 and i having issues with the Verizon customization, coz for example i cant enable 4g calling due i dont have Verizon SIM.
Other issue am having is that i cant conect 4g data even when i put the apn, if i switch to 2g and the come back to 4g i can activate 4g data but later the problema comes back, and is very weird and annoying.
I think my problems can be solved if i change my firmware, so i have 2 questions:
Whats the best oficial unlocked firmware (with no phone company) for the lg v30?
And my device is unlocked
If i change the firmware my phone locks again? Coz in the country where i live theres no Verizon so i wont be able to unlock it again.
Thaks if someone responds
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You need to convert your Verzion VS996 to "open market" carrier unlocked US998 firmware. US998 is the official carrier unlocked firmware for North America and works well on the (North America) Verizon VS996.
See the Frankenstein thread instructions.
IF you're not a Verizon customer, then yes you do not need or want U.S. carrier Verizon firmware. Instead you need the official carrier unlocked US998 firmware. You can convert the VS996 to US998, which will solve your problems.
After conversion you will have carrier unlocked US998 with these bands:
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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You need to convert your Verzion VS996 to "open market" carrier unlocked US998 firmware. US998 is the official carrier unlocked firmware for North America and works well on the (North America) Verizon VS996.
See the Frankenstein thread instructions.
IF you're not a Verizon customer, then yes you do not need or want U.S. carrier Verizon firmware. Instead you need the official carrier unlocked US998 firmware. You can convert the VS996 to US998, which will solve your problems.
After conversion you will have carrier unlocked US998 with these bands:
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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But what US998 firmware should i flash first? Coz i have oreo on vs996 and i read someone in the frankstein thread that said bricked his phone for passing from vs996 oreo to us988 nougat
Thanks
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But what US998 firmware should i flash first? Coz i have oreo on vs996 and i read someone in the frankstein thread that said bricked his phone for passing from vs996 oreo to us988 nougat
Thanks
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No he didn't. No one has bricked their phone flashing VS996 to US998. You're probably quoting some person who didn't follow the directions. Even then his phone wasn't bricked he just needed to do a Master Reset, which is the next step after flashing Nougat. Some people don't like to follow directions.
Just read the directions. No need to ask any more questions here. Ask in that thread if you don't understand the instructions. They tell you exactly what to flash. There's only five steps.
Many thousands of people have converted to us998 and no one has bricked their phone, unless it's someone who tried to flash U.S. T-Mobile H932 against all warnings...
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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No he didn't. No one has bricked their phone flashing VS996 to US998. You're probably quoting some person who didn't follow the directions. Even then his phone wasn't brick he just needed to do a master reset, which is the next step after flashing nougat. Some people don't like to follow directions.
Just read the directions. No need to ask any more questions here. Ask in that thread if you don't understand the instructions. They tell you exactly what to flash. there's only five steps.
Many thousands of people have converted to us998 and no one has bricked their phone, unless it's someone who tried to flash U.S. T-Mobile H932 against all warnings...
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Thanks mate