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I thought about it because it has some nice new features, but also takeaways. But one thing that reviewers haven't touched on much is how much narrower it is in comparison to the v30. And when you compare them side by side, wow, it looks like an iphone X but slightly taller. I don't care much for the taller narrower phones these days. I think I'll hang on to my beloved v30 and wait for the Pixel 3.
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My wife just upgraded from a G6 to the G7 and I have the V30. The size of the G6 and G7 are almost identical but the G7 looks far better with a completely black front instead of the silver bezels of the G6. The screen on the G7 is nice and the notch is interesting (not negative nor positive in my book, just different). The clock on the left will require retraining your eyes.
As for the aspect ratio, it is very noticeable to me in that it's taller and slimmer. I personally don't like that feeling buy my wife loves it. She always though the V30 was too wide to hold comfortably. The glass feeling on the phone is the same as the V30. One nice touch on the G7 is the IMEI is etched under the glass of the phone in a non-obtrusive way (T-Mobile version anyways). The external speaker on the G7 was noticeable louder and produced a warmer sound compared to the V30. As for the fingerprint reader, it is just as fast as the V30 but moving the power button to the side is annoying and a step backwards. We both immediately noticed that to turn the phone/screen off was now harder than before as you had to reach to the side or double tap on the screen instead of pressing the fingerprint reader.
Software wise, the G7 and V30 with the Oreo update are very similar in feel with only some minor variations. The G7 has new options for the native launcher like swiping to Google and more integration with the Assistant while the V30 has better HDR and VR support. Also has V30 has Wallpaper motion to give your home screen a parallax effect but is absent on the G7. If you use a 3rd party launcher, you will not see these features therefore not miss anything.
On the camera front, the wide angle of the camera is narrower for the G7 from the V30 and it's noticeable when putting the two next to each other. I personally don't like giving up the extra FOV. The UI and features are more comprehensive on the G7 with the addition of Portrait mode and the Google Assistant built directly in. The manual mode is similar however the V30 has far more shooting modes that the G7.
I would say for anybody who already has a V30 and likes it, don't bother with the G7. If you have a G6 or older device, I would definitely look and get the feel in your hand to see if it suits you needs. She is very happy with the upgrade and has no regrets.
Mostly V30>G7 for me...but depends on useage
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I just made this very difficult decision! (I'm upgrading from an older phone, ended up picking between these the G7 and the V30).
The only thing G7 offers over the V30 of significance imo is good FFC and pleasing speaker.
In balance, I found V30's unique features vs G7 more important.
Pushing me over the edge - V30's POLED display. So much better than the G7 for watching videos, etc. It's like the images are real or 3-D. A touch of hyperreality, sure but I love it.
The V7 is LED, so...more like normal. Nothing pumped up. Nothing immersive like the V30. So, yawn. Blacks are dark, but not ABSOLUTE BLACK like the V30, which makes things come alive. Same with the colors- normal, not slightly pumped up / amazing like on the V30. (I just got back from the TMobile store...a fresh experience for me).
My pro/con list consisted of:
Pros - Awesome:
V30:
- Screen - Live, amazing screen/colors etc for looking at video and photos. Love the oled. Slight hyper-reality & totally immersive! Whereas G7 =normal, not immersive, fine, but nothing special like the V30 is imo.
- Record audio from any concert - Can record 132 db concerts without distortion, even in the bass. (while recording video, or just the audio, of course. It uses the speaker as a mic.) Whereas G7 - may or may not have this. hard to tell. it has 'concert mode', but not clear if same as V30. Note: V20 had this feature, but IT DID NOT WORK, or at least not consistently. G7 implementation = unknown !
- Display size !!! - So much better, imo. The shape is .NORMAL and pleasing. whereas, the V7 has this elongated, thin-ish aspect. It actually hurts my neck to try to take in the full thing in landscape mode. Why neck, not eyes? Dunno. it's just a weird, harder to take in experience. No like. But the V30 is great. Plus, imo, Youtube videos get the edge in the V30's aspect ratio. (somemaydisagree...)
BUT:
G7 has:
- Better speaker It's actually pleasing, imo. You even hear a bit of the bass. It's nice. Supposedly you can put it on a box and it will amplify even more (some special V7 technology, fwiw). Also, V7 is louder, period, than the V30. Whereas the V30 - tinnier speaker. A bit harsh when maxing out the volume. However on 2nd listen it was ok. But nothing great. (in the store..). but: get an external speaker is one solution for the V30. Or headphones. Or, it's ok as is. But G7 is better.
- Great selfie-cam. 8 megapixel. Shots I saw online looked great. Whereas, V30 looked lower grade, imo, and not particularly pleasing. Maybe that can be cleaned up in post, or with better lighting? V30=5 megapixels.
Nice to haves:
V30:
- Zoom while shooting videos. -- Can tap on a portion of the screen, and the camera will smoothly zoom in to that portion of the screen. Awesome if you do your editing on the fly, instead of back at the computer. I.e., start wide, then zoom on your friend, or the guitarist on stage, etc. Very cool, imo. G7=doesn't have this. Seemingly, won't.
- Seamless full Zoom -- V30 can seamlessly zoom between the regular lense and the wide-angle one. From zoomed all the way in to the full wide (i.e. switches between the two lenses but you can't tell it's doing that). Handy, imo. Whereas: G7 can't. Pick a lense, zoom in and out within the confines of the lense you've chosen. On the smaller lense and want to go wider? stop shooting and switch lenses. So it goes. IMO, a nice touch if you want superior videography. So...nice to have,imo.
- Better video editing software. V30 has filters and whatnot for making videos look like various movie styles or something? Maybe more editing features than the G7, too? Am not totally sure. Probably a nice to have.
- That portrait mode on the V7 does look awfully nice... !
Maybes (items that may be true (unknown), and some that are true (which may matter a bit)):
V30:
- Screen burn in. In-store demo V30's have it. NOT noticeable on videos, etc. Just, like on the home screen, subtly and only once pointed out, from what I saw. But then yeah..it's definitely there. Not serious (for me..). Supposedly for consumers (that aren't running demos all day like in a store) , only after a year, and maybe only if you don't take protective measures (there are tutorials online on this). BUT...don't run Waze for hours and burn that logo in lol... IMO, since you have the V30...if it's getting burned in, obviously upgrade before it's too late and phone loses value. If it's fine...just look a tutorial and only trade in or up later...
- Screen brightness on videos. - V30's OLED made videos on youtube pop more, they seemed brighter as well. G7 was fine, V30 is better.
- V30 whiter whites. They looked whiter to me. Than the G7 (slightly gray). (whereas...V30's blacker blacks definitely mattered!).
- Make better videos (?) - Supposed to have better video recording than the V7. ? Better sensor? Cannot fully confirm.
- Better mics in general? - may be a rumor.
Doesn't Matter (imo, of course):
V30:
- Scenes - V30 has more, but most probably won't be used, imo.
- Battery life. G7's battery is smaller, but supposedly has a slightly more efficient OS or Skin or something. Supposedly comes out even.
G7:
- Oreo. G7 has it, V30 just got it, after a hiccup early in the month when the rollout was paused.
- Low light binning (combining pixels to take in more light when it's dark in the room). V30 now has that with the Oreo update. V7 always did.
- Screen brightness outside. 1000 nits on the G7. But the reviewer I saw on Youtube (in fact, the only reviewer who addressed this issue, IIRC), showed V30 is fine outside and G7 is brighter but it didn't matter to him.
- V7 has 16 megapixel wide angle lense vs: V30 wide lense: 13 megapixels.. Most people don't use this lense much for photography so....no biggie, imo.
- OS updates. PROBABLY doesn't matter, but who knows. G7 is the latest...perhaps it'll be supported sooner to OS P. and longer to further updates. LG has a bad track record with updates...but claim to be getting better at that. And V30 did just go Oreo.
- Hand feel. On first visit, without cases (in store), G7 was much more comfortable in hand. (it's thinner). I was really worried the V30 felt just too wide to be comfortable. really seemed the deal breaker. So, will you love the hand feel of the G7? Probably not, go. Because: I just tried an Otterbox Defender case on a friend's even larger phone. It rounded the edged of the bhack and....suddenly felt fine. The right case seems to fix this issue.
This was longer than I expected...hope it helps
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The G7 just doesn't have enough features to drop the V30. Now if they drop a G7 with stock android and bigger battery now I'm thinking.
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Also has V30 has Wallpaper motion to give your home screen a parallax effect but is absent on the G7. If you use a 3rd party launcher, you will not see these features therefore not miss anything.
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Nova launcher has had this parrallax effect for YEARS. It's even reverse parrallax, so the effect is even stronger.
But I didn't know the V30 has it as I use Nova launcher.
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Nova launcher has had this parrallax effect for YEARS. It's even reverse parrallax, so the effect is even stronger.
But I didn't know the V30 has it as I use Nova launcher.
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Nova launcher = no knock on when on the desk face up.
I'll need to revisit that launcher; I've been on HTC's skin on my old phone up until now.
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Nova launcher has had this parrallax effect for YEARS. It's even reverse parrallax, so the effect is even stronger.
But I didn't know the V30 has it as I use Nova launcher.
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I should have explained it differently. The Motion effect uses the gyroscope of the phone to make the icons appear to float above the background image. As you tilt the phone side to side, you get a different view of the background. It's more a 3D effect than parallax.
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Nova launcher = no knock on when on the desk face up.
I'll need to revisit that launcher; I've been on HTC's skin on my old phone up until now.
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I use Nova launcher on my v30 and always use knock on. You have to give Nova admin & access. security privilege. Works just fine.
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Nova launcher = no knock on when on the desk face up.
I'll need to revisit that launcher; I've been on HTC's skin on my old phone up until now.
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With root it works EXACTLY like stock launcher.
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So for context, my first smartphone was the LG optimus g pro. And my next phone was the lg g3 followed by the OP3 2 years later. I used LG phones for 4 years before a brief oneplus 3 interlude. I now use the LG G6 as my daily driver and my op3 as my work phone/backup phone and I constantly use custom roms on there.
I decided to get the korean version of this phone largely just because I wanted the quad dac and the 64gb of storage. I am a bit of an audiophile and am willing to live without wireless charging if I got the dac. Here are some of my thoughts on the LG G6 after having used it for a few days now. I will be comparing it to the G3 and the OP3 in this post to give some perspective if any of you are familiar with those devices. I will just talk about the aspects of the device that I actually use or encounter the most. As I've realized what I care about in a phone is its utility. I don't mind a weaker processor if the phone is generally more useful or accessible for whatever reason.
Quick note about performance and the camera- benchmarks aside it runs like an SD821 phone. as you would expect very well. I am still taking test photos for the camera no opinion yet.
Ergonomics and General Use Features
-This is the first thing I want to talk about is just how this thing feels in the hand. The thing feels really comfortable it's just the right width and is somewhat usable with one hand. It does feel really premium as well. Compared to the OP3, the G6 is less wide and it feels comparably better than the OP3. Honestly I never really had complaints about how the OP3 felt in the hand but it is thinner and wider than the G6 but I actually prefer the slightly fatter and less wide profile of the g6. The OP3 can feel a bit like it's digging into your hand when you grip it.
-Related to that is the placement of the fingerprint sensor, which I have some gripes about. I much prefer fingerprint sensors on the front of phones. If I want to unlock my G6 when it is sitting on the desk, I have to lift it up or use my pin/pattern lock like a chump. Not my favorite. The fingerprint sensor is also slower than the OP3, but the G6's scanner is by no means slow. It's just not as fast.
-The other issue is the placement of the headphone jack. Why in god's name would they put that **** at the top? I mean I know that isn't as wacky as the fingerprint sensor placement on the s8 but still not great. The problem is that when I put the phone in my pocket, I have to put it camera side up in there. When I go to take the phone out of my pocket I inevitable have to be careful about not touching the camera, which is annoying. With the OP3 I would just be able to grab the thing out of my pocket really quickly. I am really trying to take good care of the camera lens because it is only gorilla glass 3 like my old G3.
The Screen and Quick Battery Notes
-I have a lot of opinions about this one. Everyone on youtube and other places gives LG so much **** for having phones with IPS LCD displays but I honestly don't know why. All those samsung fanboys go on at length about how the AMOLED is so much better despite not having seen the G6's screen in person. Compared to the OP3, which is AMOLED mind you, the G6's screen is essentially as good. I mean sure it's not as colorful as the OP3's screen, but the second I picked up the G6 it was barely noticeable. Also you have to remember with IPS LCD you get much better color accuracy, which is kind of a plus in its own way. Either way, it's really a non issue. Compared to the IPS LCD of the G3, the G6 is in a whole league of its own.
-The aspect ratio is interesting. The android ecosystem doesn't fully support it yet, but they will given samsung and LG's move to 18:9. It does make certain movies with the right aspect ratio quite enjoyable to watch on the screen. It's a very cinematic view on screen, which is nice. You guys are probably aware of the way that some of LG's apps play with the ratio a bit and they are largely successful with it.
-The always on display. GREAT. It's as good as the ambient display on the OP3 with a bit more utility. I like that it stays on and that it will flash the icon of an incoming notification. The battery drain is pretty minimal so that's nice.
-As for the screen on time and the battery life, they are good on the G6. I get 4.5 hours of screen on time with my normal use, which is more than I get on the OP3 which is usually 3.5 hours at most unless I get fancy with the custom kernels and stuff. The battery definitely lasts the whole day and the audio doesn't drain it too much.
The DAC
So the DAC. It's everything I hoped it would be and more. Honestly I get very dubious about audio enhancements and stuff like that. I had an HP laptop once that had "beats audio" on it and it was frankly terrible. With this though, when I turn the DAC on, I honestly do feel like it's contributing real quality to the sound I'm listening to. It's not just some cheap bass equalizer setting. And it speaks for itself when it successfully drives high impedance headphones without breaking a sweat. They also give you precise volume controls, which is the best feature ever. I don't know why I ever lived without it. Overall, the DAC is really great and makes the audio coming out of a pair of headphones truly incredible. Hats off to LG. They knocked the media experience out of the park. And the best part, having the DAC on doesn't even drain your battery by much, I leave it on throughout the day. The OP3 is only okay and the G3 audio is horrid compared to what you get from the G6.
Network Connectivity (WIFI and LTE)
-I have the Korean version (G600S), which is GSM only to my knowledge. I have successfully gotten LTE with my ATT and T-mobile sim cards, so it will work in the US no problem. It might say 3G at first with ATT, just let it sit, after the carrier database updates you will eventually get LTE, just be patient. With T-mobile I got LTE from the get go as soon as the sim was in. I will put a screen shot of my ATT lte screen shot below.
-The wifi connectivity is good. Better than the OP3, which has terrible wifi performance sometimes, and WAY WAY WAY better than the G3 thank god. The G3 having poor wifi connectivity was the bane of my existence for 2 years and I am so glad that is over.
Final Thoughts
LG has come a long way, and they've delivered something so good that I don't actually really care about what else is out there. The G3, while cutting edge for the time, suffered hardware issues and strange software choices that left me wanting more. The OP3 while very cool at a great price lacks the DAC and the dual cameras, which really is what sets the G6 apart.
I was using the S8 (USA Sprint version) from late May until about 2 days ago and I've also been in Spain since late May for work. Unfortunately I broke the **** out of my S8 (it scratches, cracks, and or breaks extremely easily without a case) and while I have the Samsung insurance, they don't ship outside of the USA apparently.
Since i'd be in be in Europe for a few more weeks, I decided to pick up the G6 since it was way cheaper than the S8 (at least in Barcelona). I was surprised to see how much more I liked this phone than the S8, I would have never seen myself as getting a LG phone but it was the only other phone with a high display ratio like the S8.. and after I used the high display ratio on the S8 I just couldn't go back (even temporarily).
Anyway, let's talk about the good stuff.
-Display/Design: I like the S8's design a little better (narrower and easily to hold, curved screen looks cooler). LG Display is still great though. As for the design, the metal sides on the G6 feel much better. I also like how the fingerprint scanner is placed on the G6 but moreso how it's also a power button. I don't like how the G6 has the headphone jack on the top, though, but I'm glad it's at least there.
-Software: The S8 was so slow. Even going through Package Disabler and disabling a good amount of the bloatware (and using Nova Launcher Prime) the thing lagged way too much. This drove me nuts. I tried optimizing it as best I could. I got it a little better, but still nowhere near as fluid as I thought such an expensive flagship would be. On the G6 the software is so much quicker. There's much less added bloatware (don't get me wrong, some of the bloatware on the S8 is actually really nice) and everything is much more fluid. It's extremely close to stock Android. On the S8 you click the home button and there's sometimes a delay; I haven't really noticed this with the G6.
-Camera: I took some jaw dropping photos with my S8 -- haven't had much time to try the G6's yet but hopefully it's as good. G6 has dual cameras and wide angle options on the front and back, so there's that.
-Battery: Too early for me to make a judgement on this but I wasn't really happy with the battery I was getting on the S8 (with optimizations). Fast charge is nice and on both.
-SideSync: SideSync is a Samsung only feature that lets you control AND mirror your entire Android device and get all of its notifications on the PC. I was blown the **** away at how well Samsung developed this (it wasn't half assed like some Samsung stuff is). It worked very well connected via both Wifi and USB. It actually saved my life when my LCD died by enabling me to use every aspect of my phone.
-Iris Scanner: It worked really well, but its not practical. You have to hold the phone up and angle it a certain way EVERY TIME you try to unlock using it. It's stupid.
-Fingerprint Scanner: Both devices have really good ones. I think the G6's is slightly better but I could just be perceiving this because it's easier to put your finger on and its bigger).
-Heartbeat sensor: S8 has one, works pretty well (not sure about accuracy but seems accurate). Can't say I really used it much.
My deciding factor on why I prefer the G6 is the software. There's a lot of negative attention on the fingerprint scanner but not so much on how slow the software was. I expect a flagship to have minimal stutter and be pretty fluid. The S8 was a huge disappointment when it came to that despite the several optimizations I made. The S8 has a killer design, great hardware, and some great features (like SideSync), but the software lag is a deal breaker.
Note: I was using a US variant of the S8 with the ****tier processor, but personally I don't believe that the processor difference would be big enough to make it as slow as it was.
Since 2015 when I had purchased the amazing LG G4 where I didn't like the Galaxy S6 (no more Samsung for me) I had strong belief that LG is superior to Samsung in some ways! From these 2 years to present, LG is slowly gaining popularity and momentum due to better UI (LG UI is best imo and also better than boring and simple stock Android) in 2016 LG G5 was really underrated that it defeated flat Galaxy S7 in most aspects where as the LG V20 was better than the Galaxy S7 Edge as well as Galaxy Note 7! Now the more surprising thing is how can a really powerful device running on latest SD 835 with Samsung's software TouchWiz isn't smooth as any LG ! LG G6 with slightly older SD 821 is seriously very well optimised with LG UX 6.0 very smooth and fast just like the One Plus 3T or the Google Pixel. Hats of to LG for the LG G6 for amazing cameras, all round proper optimizations including fantastic battery life lasting whole day etc. Imagine another LG device like the upcoming LG V30 running on SD 835 with LG UX 6.0 and also similar or better than the G6's camera sensor (something better than IMX 258 but LG G6's camera optimization is superior with this sensor and oh that wide angle is crazy) would be the ultimate beast which can be a favorite for years! Galaxy Note 8 would be really boring. LG can do a lot better in sales if all variants of the LG G6 can be bootloader unlocked where as only single SIM international version can be rooted and will have more community support.
Two coworkers of mine got their S8+ a little over a week after I got my G6. One of them just had to get a replacement due to pixels being green all the time even when the screen is off and her boyfriend is having green screen burn in issues.
My G6 has been dropped (Yes I have a case and Tempered Glass Screen Protector) multiple times and it's having no issues at all.
This is how the pixel and pixel XL should have been designed.
This phone is the best device of 2017 only ones that have a chance to beat it are the next Pixels and the OnePlus 5.
Ali Mirza said:
Since 2015 when I had purchased the amazing LG G4 where I didn't like the Galaxy S6 (no more Samsung for me) I had strong belief that LG is superior to Samsung in some ways! From these 2 years to present, LG is slowly gaining popularity and momentum due to better UI (LG UI is best imo and also better than boring and simple stock Android) in 2016 LG G5 was really underrated that it defeated flat Galaxy S7 in most aspects where as the LG V20 was better than the Galaxy S7 Edge as well as Galaxy Note 7! Now the more surprising thing is how can a really powerful device running on latest SD 835 with Samsung's software TouchWiz isn't smooth as any LG ! LG G6 with slightly older SD 821 is seriously very well optimised with LG UX 6.0 very smooth and fast just like the One Plus 3T or the Google Pixel. Hats of to LG for the LG G6 for amazing cameras, all round proper optimizations including fantastic battery life lasting whole day etc. Imagine another LG device like the upcoming LG V30 running on SD 835 with LG UX 6.0 and also similar or better than the G6's camera sensor (something better than IMX 258 but LG G6's camera optimization is superior with this sensor and oh that wide angle is crazy) would be the ultimate beast which can be a favorite for years! Galaxy Note 8 would be really boring. LG can do a lot better in sales if all variants of the LG G6 can be bootloader unlocked where as only single SIM international version can be rooted and will have more community support.
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It seems to me like the Note 8 is just going to be an S8 with a few upgrades along with the pen and the bloatware thay comes with it. It's disappointing. Samsung did an excellent job with the hardware and design though. I wish they could just make a real international phone compatible with all networks (my European G6 probably won't work on Sprint which wasn't a problem until I realized I want to stay with it). Though I think it's not psosviel.
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Two coworkers of mine got their S8+ a little over a week after I got my G6. One of them just had to get a replacement due to pixels being green all the time even when the screen is off and her boyfriend is having green screen burn in issues.
My G6 has been dropped (Yes I have a case and Tempered Glass Screen Protector) multiple times and it's having no issues at all.
This is how the pixel and pixel XL should have been designed.
This phone is the best device of 2017 only ones that have a chance to beat it are the next Pixels and the OnePlus 5.
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I read a lot about the production issues but I personally didn't have any manufacturing defects on mine. The phone was just extremely fragile and I disliked every case I tried so I went caseless. Maybe one day we will have phones that are well designed and also durable.
Great write up OP. Samsung did a great job about marketing the hell out of the Infiniti display. And I think most people are seduced by it's display
For me, I didn't want the gimmicky curved screen and wanted a phone that was buttery smooth and didn't lag. After playing with both at the store I went with the LG G6 and couldn't be happier.
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There should be more comparison like this. Samsung UI (whatever they call it - Experience or TouchWiz) is lagging regardless the launcher, how strong the CPU is (of course, things get bettet with the stronger CPU).
Samsung should spend some of advertising money on optimizing their UI. I did get frustrated when my S6 Active and S7 Active lagging while surfing on Chrome....
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There should be more comparison like this. Samsung UI (whatever they call it - Experience or TouchWiz) is lagging regardless the launcher, how strong the CPU is (of course, things get bettet with the stronger CPU).
Samsung should spend some of advertising money on optimizing their UI. I did get frustrated when my S6 Active and S7 Active lagging while surfing on Chrome....
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Yes exactly. It wasn't just the TouchWiz launcher as I was using Nova Launcher Prime. There are definitely some serious underlying issues with the software.
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It seems to me like the Note 8 is just going to be an S8 with a few upgrades along with the pen and the bloatware thay comes with it. It's disappointing. Samsung did an excellent job with the hardware and design though. I wish they could just make a real international phone compatible with all networks (my European G6 probably won't work on Sprint which wasn't a problem until I realized I want to stay with it). Though I think it's not psosviel.
I read a lot about the production issues but I personally didn't have any manufacturing defects on mine. The phone was just extremely fragile and I disliked every case I tried so I went caseless. Maybe one day we will have phones that are well designed and also durable.
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Spigen ultra slim hybrid hard case is brilliant, check it out.
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S8 is bleeding edge, G6 is cutting edge.
After years with Samsung (Nexus, S4, S5), I waited for Samsung to get back on course for my needs (primarily expandable storage) so I held on to my S5 for as long as I could. This year though, it was time to move on so I explored the S8. The curved screen design did nothing for me, my hands-on experience with it at stores was meh, and the in-depth and real-user reviews gave me some doubts. And the lack of a proper case with included screen cover (i.e. Otterbox Defender) was the proverbial nail on the coffin.
Adding to the comments on a few of the features of the LG G6:
Design/Software I liked the LG G4 when it came out but didn't need a new phone at the time, so I jumped at the chance to get the G6 (US997 unlocked) and I can say I am extremely happy with the phone so far. Still getting used to the way LG does its software thing, but no deal-breakers so far. I am not jumping into customizing it right away, not until I get used to it or annoyed by it, lol. The phone's physical design is extremely comfortable on the hand, even with a case. It fits nicely in the hand and one-handed use is still possible despite the increased screen real estate.
Fingerprint Scanner The scanner works extremely well, at least compared to the slide-your-finger design of the S5 and lot of laptops. I just have to get used to not pressing down on the button. More than once I've unlocked/locked my phone in one fell swoop. The position of the scanner is certainly better on the G6 than the S8, particularly if you use the phone with your left hand. I do wonder if Samsung designers didn't consider left-hand usage.
Camera: I've had excellent results with the G6 camera though I can see what people refer to when they say the camera tends to overprocess the images. The wide-angle lens has come in handy multiple times. The fact you can shoot raw with this phone is something I can't wait to explore as I know it will address the overprocessing issues. Others have recommended using alternative camera apps, so that might be another option.
Battery This is of course anecdotal, but battery life has been excellent so far, lasting all day for my use. It's nice to get home with over 50% of battery life, even with the always on display enabled, various messengers firing off all day, calling, and streaming/playing music from my phone.
SideSync OMG, not having SideSync (or its equivalent) is the one thing I am absolutely struggling with. I use it at work to manage my phone, monitoring alerts, and streaming music from my 128 GB card without having to keep the phone unlocked all the time or wiring up the phone to my computer to control audio. SideSync was a seamless integration of the phone into my computer, just one more app on my screen that I could fully control. All LG tools I've tried are pretty much a joke compared to SideSync.
I have both a LG G6 (quad-DAC version) and a S8+ (Exynos). Got the G6 first and the S8 a couple of days ago. I have had both variants of the G6, with and without DAC and they don't differ in feel or performance. My main findings are these:
Fingerprint scanner: The LG one blows the Sammy out of the water. Not only because of the placement but for function and accuracy too. The obvious flaw with the Sammy is the placement. But that coupled with that you have to place your finger correctly on it instantly does not help. On the LG you can slide your finger over it and when you stop, the scanner reads your finger. The Samsung can not do this. You have to put your finger on it without swiping upon it. It sucks. End of story. It's to narrow too.
Camera: Both phones overprocesses images. Specially sharpness and noise reduction. However S8 has the much cleaner images image quality wise as it has a better sensor than the LG. However the wide angle on the LG is super fun and no other brand has it so it's a big plus for the LG. Photos in the dark specifically looks much better on the S8. In daylight it's pretty much even. LG camera software lags a lot from time to time though. It can sometimes take up to 5 seconds to start the camera and up to 2 seconds shutter delay. Not OK at all. Have not experienced this on the S8.
Software: The S8 is much smoother in scrolling but LG is quicker and has much less lag overall (camera is the exception). But I do get a much smoother experience on the S8 which quite frankly surprised me a lot. The G6 stutters a lot compared to the S8. S8 is stuffed with functions, too much if you ask me but a lot of it is also fun. However I don't miss any of it on the G6. I do miss the pull down notification button in navbar from the G6.
Battery: A little too early for me to tell. But G6 seems to have the better battery life when using full brightness out in broad daylight on mobile data. However inside on WiFi on lower brightness the S8 most likely wins fairly easily.
Display: No secret here that the screen in the S8 is a winner. However whites are a little more white on the G6 and has more "punch" to it. But blacks obviously suffer instead. But it has good blacks for being an LCD. Both screens are very good but S8 has the advantage. G6 screen is sharper because of RGB-matris and not pentile like the Sammy. Even at the same screen size the LG would be sharper.
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I have both a LG G6 (quad-DAC version) and a S8+ (Exynos). Got the G6 first and the S8 a couple of days ago. I have had both variants of the G6, with and without DAC and they don't differ in feel or performance. My main findings are these:
Fingerprint scanner: The LG one blows the Sammy out of the water. Not only because of the placement but for function and accuracy too. The obvious flaw with the Sammy is the placement. But that coupled with that you have to place your finger correctly on it instantly does not help. On the LG you can slide your finger over it and when you stop, the scanner reads your finger. The Samsung can not do this. You have to put your finger on it without swiping upon it. It sucks. End of story. It's to narrow too.
Camera: Both phones overprocesses images. Specially sharpness and noise reduction. However S8 has the much cleaner images image quality wise as it has a better sensor than the LG. However the wide angle on the LG is super fun and no other brand has it so it's a big plus for the LG. Photos in the dark specifically looks much better on the S8. In daylight it's pretty much even. LG camera software lags a lot from time to time though. It can sometimes take up to 5 seconds to start the camera and up to 2 seconds shutter delay. Not OK at all. Have not experienced this on the S8.
Software: The S8 is much smoother in scrolling but LG is quicker and has much less lag overall (camera is the exception). But I do get a much smoother experience on the S8 which quite frankly surprised me a lot. The G6 stutters a lot compared to the S8. S8 is stuffed with functions, too much if you ask me but a lot of it is also fun. However I don't miss any of it on the G6. I do miss the pull down notification button in navbar from the G6.
Battery: A little too early for me to tell. But G6 seems to have the better battery life when using full brightness out in broad daylight on mobile data. However inside on WiFi on lower brightness the S8 most likely wins fairly easily.
Display: No secret here that the screen in the S8 is a winner. However whites are a little more white on the G6 and has more "punch" to it. But blacks obviously suffer instead. But it has good blacks for being an LCD. Both screens are very good but S8 has the advantage. G6 screen is sharper because of RGB-matris and not pentile like the Sammy. Even at the same screen size the LG would be sharper.
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I just traded my G6 for an S8 (T-mobile JOD), and I pretty much agree with everything you said, except that for me, the G6 was all around a smoother software experience. I COMPLETELY agree about the issues with LG's camera app launching too slowly. That was probably my biggest pet peeve about the device.
I'm happy with my s8, just as I was happy with my G6. Both are great devices.
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I just traded my G6 for an S8 (T-mobile JOD), and I pretty much agree with everything you said, except that for me, the G6 was all around a smoother software experience. I COMPLETELY agree about the issues with LG's camera app launching too slowly. That was probably my biggest pet peeve about the device.
I'm happy with my s8, just as I was happy with my G6. Both are great devices.
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Just out of curiosity did you have the Exynos version or Snapdragon? The S8+ really has much smoother scrolling for me while it's slower overall. The G6 stutters a lot for me and I mean a lot.
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Just out of curiosity did you have the Exynos version or Snapdragon? The S8+ really has much smoother scrolling for me while it's slower overall. The G6 stutters a lot for me and I mean a lot.
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Snapdragon. It isn't because my S8 is bad with stuttering, though (except with animations returning to the home screen). It's just that my G6 didn't stutter much at all with scrolling and had more fluid animations in general.
The strange thing to me is that low end devices offer such a similar experience with regard to smoothness. I was trying out a Nokia 6 the other day and thinking, why am I paying so much for these high-end devices. Okay, screen and camera, but it seems like these things should offer an (almost) perfectly smooth user experience.
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Snapdragon. It isn't because my S8 is bad with stuttering, though (except with animations returning to the home screen). It's just that my G6 didn't stutter much at all with scrolling and had more fluid animations in general.
The strange thing to me is that low end devices offer such a similar experience with regard to smoothness. I was trying out a Nokia 6 the other day and thinking, why am I paying so much for these high-end devices. Okay, screen and camera, but it seems like these things should offer an (almost) perfectly smooth user experience.
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I have the Exynos version. There might be differences. GSMArena mentions fairly big performance difference between the Exynos and Snapdragon version in favor of the Exynos. But yes, returning to homescreen often stutters.
I know what you mean. I've had a Lenovo P2 for €30 and its smoothness beats the crap out of both phones. Horrible camera though. But Nexus smooth for the most part.
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I bought a G6 coming from a Note 5, first Samsung phone I have owned since the original Galaxy S.
I won't be going back to Samsung anytime soon, the bloat, the lag and the random battery drain 'features' of touchwiz have really soured me. Which is a shame, as build quality and features wise I think Samsung are producing the best Android phones on the market, sadly the software completely destroys the experience.
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I have both a LG G6 (quad-DAC version) and a S8+ (Exynos). Got the G6 first and the S8 a couple of days ago. I have had both variants of the G6, with and without DAC and they don't differ in feel or performance. My main findings are these:
Fingerprint scanner: The LG one blows the Sammy out of the water. Not only because of the placement but for function and accuracy too. The obvious flaw with the Sammy is the placement. But that coupled with that you have to place your finger correctly on it instantly does not help. On the LG you can slide your finger over it and when you stop, the scanner reads your finger. The Samsung can not do this. You have to put your finger on it without swiping upon it. It sucks. End of story. It's to narrow too.
Camera: Both phones overprocesses images. Specially sharpness and noise reduction. However S8 has the much cleaner images image quality wise as it has a better sensor than the LG. However the wide angle on the LG is super fun and no other brand has it so it's a big plus for the LG. Photos in the dark specifically looks much better on the S8. In daylight it's pretty much even. LG camera software lags a lot from time to time though. It can sometimes take up to 5 seconds to start the camera and up to 2 seconds shutter delay. Not OK at all. Have not experienced this on the S8.
Software: The S8 is much smoother in scrolling but LG is quicker and has much less lag overall (camera is the exception). But I do get a much smoother experience on the S8 which quite frankly surprised me a lot. The G6 stutters a lot compared to the S8. S8 is stuffed with functions, too much if you ask me but a lot of it is also fun. However I don't miss any of it on the G6. I do miss the pull down notification button in navbar from the G6.
Battery: A little too early for me to tell. But G6 seems to have the better battery life when using full brightness out in broad daylight on mobile data. However inside on WiFi on lower brightness the S8 most likely wins fairly easily.
Display: No secret here that the screen in the S8 is a winner. However whites are a little more white on the G6 and has more "punch" to it. But blacks obviously suffer instead. But it has good blacks for being an LCD. Both screens are very good but S8 has the advantage. G6 screen is sharper because of RGB-matris and not pentile like the Sammy. Even at the same screen size the LG would be sharper.
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You should try a factory reset on the G6. It can greatly reduce the scrolling lag , as it did för me.
There is a topic about here somewhere...
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You should try a factory reset on the G6. It can greatly reduce the scrolling lag , as it did för me.
There is a topic about here somewhere...
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I did. Did not help. It's just badly optimized.
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dannejanne said:
I did. Did not help. It's just badly optimized.
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Yeah, still far from perfect.. But my phone was very laggy at first, and it it did help.
How would you compare it to the S8+?
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I did. Did not help. It's just badly optimized.
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Whoops, didn't realize it was you I replied to... :silly:
Hi Guys,
I'm rocking the great LG V20 B&O edition and It's awesome, but I have to admit, it's a bit too big, the LG G6, Korean model seems very similar, QUAD-DAC, same size screen, a bit better CPU, 64Gb, etc etc... I can sell my V20 and put £30 more and get the G6, would you guys do it? Really not sure if it would be an upgrade, as I've seen that the G6's screen doesn't get as bright and the front camera is bad, but the G6 is better looking, more compact, IP68, no camera hump and better looking (I know, twice xD).
What has been your experience with the G6? does the 18:9 aspect ration been an issue? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for you time XDA community.
UPDATE:
It's been 2 weeks that I've been trying out the G6 and averall I'm pretty happy with it, but don't feel that it was a good swap and here are my reasons for it:
Things I don't like about the G6 compared to V20:
- The G6 is behind security updates compared to the V20, I had June update on the V20 and G6 still with April Security update.
- Screen backlight bleed from the bottom, when using always on display in the dark.
- Front Camera is just bad, I'm not a fan of selfies, but I do it sometimes with my kids and it's bad...
- Main camera, it's not that great compared to the V20, V20 was far superior, the G6 has a lot of over sharpening even in decent light and it looks unnatural.
- It takes a second or 2 to take a picture, missing sometime the money shot.
Things I like about the G6 compared to V20:
- Looks amazing and feels amazing in hand
- Far less lags navigating the UI
That's it really...
So considering going back to the V20 now selling the G6, buy the V20, which is cheaper now and still make some money... What I'm saying is, if you have the V20, keep it, the G6 is not an worthy upgrade IMHO.
hugoprh said:
Hi Guys,
I'm rocking the great LG V20 B&O edition and It's awesome, but I have to admit, it's a bit too big, the LG G6, Korean model seems very similar, QUAD-DAC, same size screen, a bit better CPU, 64Gb, etc etc... I can sell my V20 and put £30 more and get the G6, would you guys do it? Really not sure if it would be an upgrade, as I've seen that the G6's screen doesn't get as bright and the front camera is bad, but the G6 is better looking, more compact, IP68, no camera hump and better looking (I know, twice xD).
What has been your experience with the G6? does the 18:9 aspect ration been an issue? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for you time XDA community.
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Go for a black g6!
hugoprh said:
Hi Guys,
I'm rocking the great LG V20 B&O edition and It's awesome, but I have to admit, it's a bit too big, the LG G6, Korean model seems very similar, QUAD-DAC, same size screen, a bit better CPU, 64Gb, etc etc... I can sell my V20 and put £30 more and get the G6, would you guys do it? Really not sure if it would be an upgrade, as I've seen that the G6's screen doesn't get as bright and the front camera is bad, but the G6 is better looking, more compact, IP68, no camera hump and better looking (I know, twice xD).
What has been your experience with the G6? does the 18:9 aspect ration been an issue? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for you time XDA community.
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G6 all the way!!
Just get a Bootloader unlockable variant if that is important to you... The main cameras are very good, the screen is awsome, also, I haven't had any trouble using the phone in direct sunlight, but I guess that varies from user to user... Also the front camera is not that bad really, it's just kinda cold in the colors, and it might get a little grainy in low light conditions, but I've taken great pictures with it already, plus you do have the smart flash, skin tone, and lighting adjustment, filters for more saturation/hotter colors to apply on the fly before taking a pic... So it's actually quite decent IMO. If you really want a quality selfie, use the main shooter with OIS (and that goes for any phone no matter how good the front camera may be), you got the cheese shutter command to take the pic by saying smile, cheese and other words, the hand gesture, timer, and the volume down button to take a selfie easily!! Also the IP68 is just so awsome!!! Take pics/videos underwater... And just for fun... Dive your new G6 on a Glass of water in front of your friends (I did, it was hilarious!)!!
Anyway... Those are my 2 cents...
I love my G6... Apart from not being able to unlock the Bootloader... But that isnt the G6's fault... It's the sticks in the butt of whomever makes decisions at LG :'D!!!
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Definitely a good phone. If you're looking for a smaller foot print, the G6 is the way to go.
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I switched from the V20 to the G6.
Don't hesitate just do it. The only thing you'll regret is waiting so long to switch. I'll never go back to a big screen and low screen-to-body ratio.
Plus the V20 for me was super laggy camera sucked fingerprint scanner inconsistent just really felt like the V20 was over hyped.
The G6 however, despite the crappy sales numbers, is the best phone of 2017 so far.
The only thing that is an upgrade from V20 to G6 is the battery life basically and also the wide angle lens quality. Though if you prefer a smaller phone it might be wise the G6 is much more portable.
Go for G6 only if you like Compact size and match color before you buy both . Black feels ordinary. Platinum feels more premium to me.
If you can adjust the size. Wait for V30 or G7
Thanks for all the comments guys, I did it, G6 with Quad DAC ordered? I'll compare both and sell the one I think that doesn't deserve my pocket can't wait for the G6 ?
(Added to OP)
UPDATE:
It's been 2 weeks that I've been trying out the G6 and averall I'm pretty happy with it, but don't feel that it was a good swap and here are my reasons for it:
Things I don't like about the G6 compared to V20:
- The G6 is behind security updates compared to the V20, I had June update on the V20 and G6 still with April Security update.
- Screen backlight bleed from the bottom, when using always on display in the dark.
- Front Camera is just bad, I'm not a fan of selfies, but I do it sometimes with my kids and it's bad...
- Main camera, it's not that great compared to the V20, V20 was far superior, the G6 has a lot of over sharpening even in decent light and it looks unnatural.
- It takes a second or 2 to take a picture, missing sometime the money shot.
Things I like about the G6 compared to V20:
- Looks amazing and feels amazing in hand
- Far less lags navigating the UI
That's it really...
So considering going back to the V20 now selling the G6, buy the V20, which is cheaper now and still make some money... What I'm saying is, if you have the V20, keep it, the G6 is not an worthy upgrade IMHO.
Lol yeah, thats how you compare phones. Just lets ignore Dual Sim, Quad DAC, 19:1 Format and everything else and put a ****post on a forum with a big ass signature acting like a douche.
Darksession said:
Lol yeah, thats how you compare phones. Just lets ignore Dual Sim, Quad DAC, 19:1 Format and everything else and put a ****post on a forum with a big ass signature acting like a douche.
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You gotta love the Internet, did I ticle your 4$$ with my opinion? And what the hell are you on about, both have Dual SIM, Quad DAC and the G6 has a 18:9 aspect ratio, which right now it's not used by most video players, if you don't agree with what I said, that's fine, I'm just telling G6 owners my opinion, in case they're in the same situation as I was. The G6 is simply not an upgrade from the V20.
And my signature is awesome by the way, I have had all of those phones and much more (legally) without spending any money, it's called being business savvy, but I'll let you figure that one out
All the best mate and keep spreading the Love XOX
hugoprh said:
You gotta love the Internet, did I ticle your 4$$ with my opinion? And what the hell are you on about, both have Dual SIM, Quad DAC and the G6 has a 18:9 aspect ratio, which right now it's not used by most video players, if you don't agree with what I said, that's fine, I'm just telling G6 owners my opinion, in case they're in the same situation as I was. The G6 is simply not an upgrade from the V20.
And my signature is awesome by the way, I have had all of those phones and much more (legally) without spending any money, it's called being business savvy, but I'll let you figure that one out
All the best mate and keep spreading the Love XOX
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Lol
The latest update 10t (open EU) has really toned done the processing in the camera app with photos looking much better than prior to the update. just saying, but yes the V20 is an awesome machine too, enjoy!
Darksession said:
Lol yeah, thats how you compare phones. Just lets ignore Dual Sim, Quad DAC, 19:1 Format and everything else and put a ****post on a forum with a big ass signature acting like a douche.
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19:1 format.....
I guess you're a developer that was specially selected by LG to receive a Limited Douche Edition G6
I'd like to get your thoughts on whether it's worth upgrading from the G6?
ledvedder said:
I'd like to get your thoughts on whether it's worth upgrading from the G6?
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I have both and yes 100% the v30 wins. Proof of ownership on pictures.
1. The v30 LED destroys the LCD of the g6
2. The call and Bluetooth quality is way better.
3. Speed and I mean speed difference is very noticeable.
Which I truly wouldn't have thought would have been noticeable considering the same 4gb of ram. But man the 835 is optimized way better vs the 821.
4. Camera is much better mostly due to the g6 stock camera app and the way it over processes everything and water color washed out if you zoom at all.
5. Smoother scrolling period across all apps.
6. Bezel ratio is better. They moved the LG logo to back off phone vs the bottom of screen.
7. All versions come with quad-dac
8. Can use a larger rugged case without making phone feel huge. Currently using Spigen tough armor and it still feels very sleek and slim. While feeling secure in hand.
1. Point for the g6 and my "average" sized hands for a 5'8" 29year old male. The g6 is easier for one handed use.
That's my thoughts so far and I've had it 4 days. Feel free to ask questions I shall reply
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I have both and yes 100% the v30 wins. Proof of ownership on pictures.
1. The v30 LED destroys the LCD of the g6
2. The call and Bluetooth quality is way better.
3. Speed and I mean speed difference is very noticeable.
Which I truly wouldn't have thought would have been noticeable considering the same 4gb of ram. But man the 835 is optimized way better vs the 821.
4. Camera is much better mostly due to the g6 stock camera app and the way it over processes everything and water color washed out if you zoom at all.
5. Smoother scrolling period across all apps.
6. Bezel ratio is better. They moved the LG logo to back off phone vs the bottom of screen.
7. All versions come with quad-dac
8. Can use a larger rugged case without making phone feel huge. Currently using Spigen tough armor and it still feels very sleek and slim. While feeling secure in hand.
1. Point for the g6 and my "average" sized hands for a 5'8" 29year old male. The g6 is easier for one handed use.
That's my thoughts so far and I've had it 4 days. Feel free to ask questions I shall reply
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Could you test mobile signal reception also? My G6 is pretty deluding in this...
lg3FTW said:
I have both and yes 100% the v30 wins. Proof of ownership on pictures.
1. The v30 LED destroys the LCD of the g6
2. The call and Bluetooth quality is way better.
3. Speed and I mean speed difference is very noticeable.
Which I truly wouldn't have thought would have been noticeable considering the same 4gb of ram. But man the 835 is optimized way better vs the 821.
4. Camera is much better mostly due to the g6 stock camera app and the way it over processes everything and water color washed out if you zoom at all.
5. Smoother scrolling period across all apps.
6. Bezel ratio is better. They moved the LG logo to back off phone vs the bottom of screen.
7. All versions come with quad-dac
8. Can use a larger rugged case without making phone feel huge. Currently using Spigen tough armor and it still feels very sleek and slim. While feeling secure in hand.
1. Point for the g6 and my "average" sized hands for a 5'8" 29year old male. The g6 is easier for one handed use.
That's my thoughts so far and I've had it 4 days. Feel free to ask questions I shall reply
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Got my V30 yesterday and I absolutely agree with all posted above. The speed difference is so noticeable that I'm at a loss to understand how it's possible.
The Bluetooth audio is substantially better and syncs much quicker.
The size seems a better fit and while essentially the same size, it feels better in the hand.
Facial recognition, way cool!
Quad DAC is amazing.
I've had the G3, G4, V10, V20, G6 and now this. It's the most refined, complete phone I've ever owned. I will actually, date I say keep this phone for good. I view it as the pinnacle of hardware innovation.
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Could you test mobile signal reception also? My G6 is pretty deluding in this...
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Truly I've noticed that when 1st got it my 4g was spotty but no issues lately
Great topic,thanks for sharing all these info.I am upgrading also from a G6 and its great to see that it will be a "true upgrade".Now just waiting 1st november here in UK so i can get my hands on it (i already pre ordered)
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Just got a few questions for people who previously had the G8 (Or the V30/V30+). Is this device super heavy in comparison without the dual screen attachment? Is the screen quality noticeably different?
What are your pro's and con's?
I'm undecided as this is the first device I have no way to see in person.
I had the V30, my wife has the G8. It is a lot larger, but I wouldn't call it super heavy. I would say the screen quality of all 3 devices is similar. I have quickly gotten use to the larger size. My wife says she would rather have the larger screen.
Coming from G8 myself. This thing is noticeably heavier than the G8, but you get used to it quick. The screen size is a huge difference. You can do pretty much everything one handed on the G8 while there are many times you need both hands on this phone. No noticeable screen differences as in quality. The sound is a HUGE difference between the 2, the V60 is amazing sound, while the G8 sounded tinny and like it was in a tunnel and way quiet. The auto brightness on the V60 is awful, it goes to zero in a single lamp lit room while the G8 stayed around 15%. All in all, I'm very pleased with my upgrade.
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I had the V30, my wife has the G8. It is a lot larger, but I wouldn't call it super heavy. I would say the screen quality of all 3 devices is similar. I have quickly gotten use to the larger size. My wife says she would rather have the larger screen.
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Coming from G8 myself. This thing is noticeably heavier than the G8, but you get used to it quick. The screen size is a huge difference. You can do pretty much everything one handed on the G8 while there are many times you need both hands on this phone. No noticeable screen differences as in quality. The sound is a HUGE difference between the 2, the V60 is amazing sound, while the G8 sounded tinny and like it was in a tunnel and way quiet. The auto brightness on the V60 is awful, it goes to zero in a single lamp lit room while the G8 stayed around 15%. All in all, I'm very pleased with my upgrade.
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Yeah, I think I don't mind larger or heavier myself. I upgraded my iPhone 7 Plus to the 11 Pro Max. It's time to get bigger on my Android too.
My only concern was the lower PPI. Was hoping it wouldn't make the screen too blurry to me. I noticed my G8 won't go below 10% auto brightness. I think that is to avoid the black crush a lot of us saw with the V30 (I had to exchange 3 of them).
Sound quality, do you mean through the headphones or phone itself? I do not like the G8 for speakerphone at all, sounds terrible honestly.
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My only concern was the lower PPI. Was hoping it wouldn't make the screen too blurry to me. I noticed my G8 won't go below 10% auto brightness. I think that is to avoid the black crush a lot of us saw with the V30 (I had to exchange 3 of them).
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We are all hoping a future update fixes the auto brightness bug. It goes to 0 in a lamplit room and just impossible to see the screen. I prefer auto brightness myself, so having to go back and forth is quite annoying. The G8 definitely was great with that.
[/QUOTE] Sound quality, do you mean through the headphones or phone itself? I do not like the G8 for speakerphone at all, sounds terrible honestly.[/QUOTE]
Sound thru the phone speakers are amazing with the V60. I have yet to use headphones plug in, as I don't really have good ones, just the set that came with my V20 years ago.
I also went from the V30+ to the V60 and absolutely love the new phone. I can attest to the quality of the phone's speakers.
They sound dramatically better than the V30's, though a good set of headphones will always be where it's really at for LG phones. At least as long as they continue to include quality Quad DACs in their devices. But hey, an improvement is an improvement.
Despite having a lower resolution and a much larger screen, and thus, a lower DPI that's obvious to the eyes, I'm happy with the screen. The colors are crisp, the viewing angles seem limitless, and if you're considering a V60, you should already know that you're not getting a cutting edge display with a 90 Hz or 120 Hz refresh rate. I think they made the right call and wound up turning this phone into a friggin' beast when it comes to battery life. Auto-brightness settings could use some tweaking, but this is an issue that has affected earlier LG phones. So while it's a bit baffling that it shipped this way, there's precedent for it getting fixed via a software update eventually.
The phone is substantially bigger and heavier than V30 (but not uncomfortably so in my opinion), and so it's less conducive to one-handed use out-of-the-box. But I DON'T USE LG's out-of-the-box software, so a combination of Nova Launcher (to replace LG Home), Fluid Navigation Gestures (to replace Android 10's stock gestures), and special permission being granted to the latter via ADB and Fastboot means that I can easily do things like pull the notification shade down with a simple swipe down from anywhere on the screen, and other similar QoL tweaks. I had no issues basically recreating my preferred LG V30 software environment and home screen on the V60. I had to learn how to use ADB and Fastboot to do what I'd normally have used root to do, but it wasn't as tricky as I feared and the end result is close enough to what I enjoyed before, that it's made the transition pretty smooth.
All in all, I'm pretty thrilled with the phone. I don't care how good a phone's screen is, if it doesn't have expandable storage via SD cards and a 3.5MM headphone jack, I'm automatically out. And it doesn't hurt that LG's phones have a well-deserved reputation for having higher quality audio output than just about any other Android phone out there. I value that a lot more than I do screen resolution, camera quality & camera software, or even the OEM skins layered over Android OS.
I miss the tof front camera on the g8. No face unlock at all on the v60 sucks.
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We are all hoping a future update fixes the auto brightness bug. It goes to 0 in a lamplit room and just impossible to see the screen. I prefer auto brightness myself, so having to go back and forth is quite annoying. The G8 definitely was great with that.
I know many have had this issue, but, I have had absolutely no problem with auto brightness. Even in a closet, or a car at night, I can't get my display to go below 12%. (Verizon)
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bilbo60 said:
pre4speed said:
We are all hoping a future update fixes the auto brightness bug. It goes to 0 in a lamplit room and just impossible to see the screen. I prefer auto brightness myself, so having to go back and forth is quite annoying. The G8 definitely was great with that.
I know many have had this issue, but, I have had absolutely no problem with auto brightness. Even in a closet, or a car at night, I can't get my display to go below 12%. (Verizon)
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What were you doing in a dark closet?
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Mejilan said:
bilbo60 said:
What were you doing in a dark closet?
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Just testing....for a friend! LOL But seriously have you experienced problems with auto brightness?
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bilbo60 said:
Mejilan said:
Just testing....for a friend! LOL But seriously have you experienced problems with auto brightness?
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It can be a little inconsistent at night compared to my old V30+, but I wouldn't consider it dramatically distracting.
I imagine a software update from LG will fix it (eventually), as I vaguely recall that the V30 had a similar issue in the beginning which was also fixed (eventually).
Sadly, "eventually" can usually take a while with LG.
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bilbo60 said:
pre4speed said:
We are all hoping a future update fixes the auto brightness bug. It goes to 0 in a lamplit room and just impossible to see the screen. I prefer auto brightness myself, so having to go back and forth is quite annoying. The G8 definitely was great with that.
I know many have had this issue, but, I have had absolutely no problem with auto brightness. Even in a closet, or a car at night, I can't get my display to go below 12%. (Verizon)
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I luckily find better outcomes without auto brightness. So I think I'll be okay with that. Is there any noticeable black crush or other issues at 0%?
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I also went from the V30+ to the V60 and absolutely love the new phone. I can attest to the quality of the phone's speakers.
They sound dramatically better than the V30's, though a good set of headphones will always be where it's really at for LG phones. At least as long as they continue to include quality Quad DACs in their devices. But hey, an improvement is an improvement.
Despite having a lower resolution and a much larger screen, and thus, a lower DPI that's obvious to the eyes, I'm happy with the screen. The colors are crisp, the viewing angles seem limitless, and if you're considering a V60, you should already know that you're not getting a cutting edge display with a 90 Hz or 120 Hz refresh rate. I think they made the right call and wound up turning this phone into a friggin' beast when it comes to battery life. Auto-brightness settings could use some tweaking, but this is an issue that has affected earlier LG phones. So while it's a bit baffling that it shipped this way, there's precedent for it getting fixed via a software update eventually.
The phone is substantially bigger and heavier than V30 (but not uncomfortably so in my opinion), and so it's less conducive to one-handed use out-of-the-box. But I DON'T USE LG's out-of-the-box software, so a combination of Nova Launcher (to replace LG Home), Fluid Navigation Gestures (to replace Android 10's stock gestures), and special permission being granted to the latter via ADB and Fastboot means that I can easily do things like pull the notification shade down with a simple swipe down from anywhere on the screen, and other similar QoL tweaks. I had no issues basically recreating my preferred LG V30 software environment and home screen on the V60. I had to learn how to use ADB and Fastboot to do what I'd normally have used root to do, but it wasn't as tricky as I feared and the end result is close enough to what I enjoyed before, that it's made the transition pretty smooth.
All in all, I'm pretty thrilled with the phone. I don't care how good a phone's screen is, if it doesn't have expandable storage via SD cards and a 3.5MM headphone jack, I'm automatically out. And it doesn't hurt that LG's phones have a well-deserved reputation for having higher quality audio output than just about any other Android phone out there. I value that a lot more than I do screen resolution, camera quality & camera software, or even the OEM skins layered over Android OS.
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I agree, my biggest excitement is the battery (G8 is pretty bad). So I'd realistically like to get this phone for when we're able to travel again. I listen to music on trips and don't need the hassle of Bluetooth headphones. I absolutely can't stand no headphone jack on an Android.
Also a fan of SD cards.
I'm looking at that LG Velvet too but I'm more than 90% sure I'll go with the V60 anyways. It'll have that beast of a battery and I don't have to buy the dual screen I don't need with it.
Did you write or read a post about using ADB and Fastboot? Just curious what tweaks you did/were able to do on the device.
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Septembersrain said:
bilbo60 said:
I agree, my biggest excitement is the battery (G8 is pretty bad). So I'd realistically like to get this phone for when we're able to travel again. I listen to music on trips and don't need the hassle of Bluetooth headphones. I absolutely can't stand no headphone jack on an Android.
Also a fan of SD cards.
I'm looking at that LG Velvet too but I'm more than 90% sure I'll go with the V60 anyways. It'll have that beast of a battery and I don't have to buy the dual screen I don't need with it.
Did you write or read a post about using ADB and Fastboot? Just curious what tweaks you did/were able to do on the device.
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Velvet looks like it's going to be a bit more mid-range. From what I've read, it'll have a weaker Snapdragon than the one powering the V60.
It seems like the V-series are their new flagships, Velvet will replace the G-series, and the G-series/Velvet will no longer be their beast mode flagships going forward.
As for ADB, all I did was give Fluid Navigation Gestures the permission it needs to hide the nav bar (normally it's a root thing), and uninstall a TON of AT&T and LG bloatware.
I just pulled up a random guide via Google. The process is essentially the same for most phones. Just don't go nuts and delete something critical like System UI!
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