stratos watch with some issues (intern. rom flashed). anyone else? - Amazfit

hi!
i cant talk about heart rates or sport related issues, i havent got the time to use the watch in work outs yet (if i ever get the time).
main reason i got mine was due to having access to messages and alerts without the need to reach the phone (and it aint that good, i can only read last message from apps).
mine was chinese, then flashed the stratOS rom and, now, international rom.
since i got the international rom, and updated to last version, ive noticed a few things, most of them, lagging.
- taps on the watch screen are now less responsive, needing a certain level of pressure (but it may be some impression due to lagging, see bellow);
- some icons dont react right away when tapped. some dont react at all (you can see the icon visual feedback but the watch dont perform the command);
- phone-to-watch distance reminder now lags to the point of going away from the phone and coming back and, then, receiving the warning im far away from the phone;
- phone-to-watch distance reminder now alert im far away from the phone when im not (i suspect the blutooth strength has been reduced, im receiving this alert a lot when the phone is on my backpack, on my back).
anyone else experiencing these? or any other issue?
ill use this chance to inform: if youre getting the health center being unable to sync problem (forgot the proper warning words), this helps:
it probably started happening after you rebooted the watch and already have a profile set on the amazfit app. watch format for weight, height and distances are probably back to default and now differ from the ones you changed in your profile.
go back to your profile and also on your watch and recheck all the formats. when theyre the same, phone and watch should be able to sync health data again.
Note that the F° displayed on the watch comes from the weather app on the amazfit app. go there to change F° to C° on your watch.

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Nike app

Anyone try app recently? I believe there was an update. If you use watch only, will it give you any audio and or visual clues to pace? Or does it just show you your distance.
What stats does it show afterwards? In NY. Way too cold for me to try outside.
Thanks
Update to Nike+
Jeffruby said:
Anyone try app recently? I believe there was an update. If you use watch only, will it give you any audio and or visual clues to pace? Or does it just show you your distance.
What stats does it show afterwards? In NY. Way too cold for me to try outside.
Thanks
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I was wondering what you noticed that gave you the impression the app had received an update? I have not noticed any audio cues while running. The biggest issue I have with Nike+ is that the GPS doesn't seem to start tracking until a half mile into each run. This happens regardless of how long I stand around in clear view of the sky waiting for a fix on my location.
I am curious how the Nike+ app is managed. It doesn't show up in the gear manager app on my phone, and there doesn't appear to be any means of managing the app (checking for updates etc.) from the Gear S itself. Any thoughts or feedback would be appreciated. This is such a niche device, I can't see myself using it for anything other than running and I'm starting to think that I should have returned it and waited for another 6 models to come out. Hope Samsung can fix the GPS problems with a firmware update.
There was an update on the phone end, which I thought would communicate with the gear (in update info it mentioned gear s update).
When you run, do you have your gear network set to "always on" and Bluetooth off prior to run.? If gear network on auto, won't start independent logging (ie will use phone gps) for 1-2 minutes plus the delay to lock on
Update- went for a run today with Nike app. Before I left house I turned off bt on note 4-so phone and watch disconnected. Next I turned gear net on always and turned gps on.
Waited a few minutes before leaving house. Turned on Nike app and ran. The app did audibly (through bt earbuds) tell me to start job, so I'm shocked it doesn't update you audibly throughout run like phone app does. Disappointing but not huge.
When I would look at watch I'd see milage. It was accurate but not updated in real time. For instance I'd look down and it would say 1.5 miles, the 5 second later it would update and say 2.1 miles. It was sunny and I could see milage fine, but other data scrolled at bottom in red and hardish to read. I am unsure if it was pace, but I think one of the parameters was time/mile - during my run this was WAY OFF (unless I misread it) - after run my pace listed was accurate... So have to recheck this.
I did not have any issues with app starting tracking 5 minutes later.
Battery on 40 minute run went down 30%. I had to be reachable by text so I had gear network always on.... Wondering if I can use Nike app with just gps on, and gear net off (for half and full marathons - otherwise the battery won't last!).
The one thing that is necessary (i think) is to disconnect the gear from the phone before run, or else the gear will use your phone gps to show no movement until it transfers over to watch (which takes a few minutes).
Will try health app. Wishing for audible alerts or clearer and accurate pace stats.
Nike app disappointing also battery life
Jeffruby said:
Update- went for a run today with Nike app. Before I left house I turned off bt on note 4-so phone and watch disconnected. Next I turned gear net on always and turned gps on.
Waited a few minutes before leaving house. Turned on Nike app and ran. The app did audibly (through bt earbuds) tell me to start job, so I'm shocked it doesn't update you audibly throughout run like phone app does. Disappointing but not huge.
When I would look at watch I'd see milage. It was accurate but not updated in real time. For instance I'd look down and it would say 1.5 miles, the 5 second later it would update and say 2.1 miles. It was sunny and I could see milage fine, but other data scrolled at bottom in red and hardish to read.
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I just got this watch yesterday. Tried running with it today. Didn't do anything special, not even check which background app's were running. Used the Nike app. Very disappointing... I really need to see the pace but the only thing I could read on the display were the large distance numerals, no alerts. I also did some playing around making and receiving voice calls, and having someone at home with my phone use the AT&T Mobile Locate to find where I was. Other than the Nike app. all worked great, except my 8 mile, 1:15:25 run took the battery from near 100% to 18%. I hope I can improve this. My main reason for getting this was to combine the function of a GPS watch with a phone for marathons and half marathons so I could call/find people after the race (especially at big events like next Boston). I need to get at least 5 hours battery since I usually finish 3:40 to 3:50.
I did have the HR recording on (didn't see a way to cancel it in Nike), this may have added battery drain. Also the pedometer function was evidently running since the display came up a few times, as noted above I didn't cancel running app's. I looked at Power Saver mode, but it appears the GPS and 3G may not function in that mode.
I'm going to try S-Health because it has a pace display, and I don't need Facebook cheers (really?) or music. Hopefully it is less of a battery hog.
It was cold out today, but not extreme (30F, 21F windchill) which may have had an effect.
I have 14 days (12 left) to return with re-stocking fee to ATT, so will kick the tires hard. Any advice will be appreciated. I guess I could always wear my Garmin FR220 on one arm and this on the other, and just use it as a phone/after-race navigator/contactor. Still better tha carrying my Note 3 in an armband (they actually don't make one stock to fit it), or risk bouncing it around in a sweaty fanny pack.
Bottom line, my opinion of the Nike app is "not good".
Try it with gear net off but gps on. After race can turn gear net on and make the call. Yeah I was in Baltimore this year and walked around freezing looking for others for too long.
Also agree. The s health may prove better for pace (most important) can swipe to side to see it. Wish it had audio alerts but I can live with looking down at wrist here and there.
another update:ran with shealth today....again 30+mins and again 20% battery gone...not good!
had gear net OFF and gps ON (naturally)- I am now going to try
a) removing motion that turns on watch when i swing hand up (although I like this to quick glance while running and every time i did it the screen did go from off to on...so not thinking this will help)- remote possibility screen is on for most of run (dont think so).
b) need to figure out how to turn off the unwanted HR sensor...so useless and i think is killing battery!!!
c) turn brightness down lower.
the pace on shealth was just as useless as nike app as its INSTANT while gps is pulsatile....still no SPLIT paces or audio paces...thats what i want
I went for 3 hour walk/run with GPS and gear network both on and the battery was at 30% when I got home. Not bad!

Clocks give hourly alarms

I'm just posting this in case others run into this same problem.
My watch was buzzing on the hour even though my current watch face didn't even have an option for that feature. Previously I had loaded the clock face "Kokoclock Sun&Moon". Pretty slick watch face but the time was too small to read easily. I deselected it almost immediately and forgot about it. Later I noticed I was getting hourly vibrations and my Fit and it me a long time to trace it back to the Kokoclock. Even though it wasn't currently selected it left the hourly alarm ON. I reselected Kokoclock, removed the Hourly Alarm option and the hourly vibrations disappeared. Others may catch on faster but this is just a heads up.
Hi. Uninstall from your phone the app koko clock. And fixed!
roco446 said:
Hi. Uninstall from your phone the app koko clock. And fixed!
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Strangely mine continued to vibrate hourly even after I had uninstalled kokoclock. Only after I reinstalled it and reset hourly alarm did I get it to stop.
From my Note 4 via Tapatalk Pro.
Hi there,
reading about this problem gives me hope that the kokoclock will work as I need it to be. Maybe you can tell me.
I'm thinking about getting the Samsung gear fit or any other smart watch that will let me do the following:
-Give me an hourly vibration signal (like the kokoclock) but without a phone connected.
I just returned a sony SM2. There was an hourly vibration app, but the problem was, that the phone had to be connected (via bluetooth) for the watch to give the hourly vibration signal. The app was actually running on the phone and the phone gave the hourly signal to the watch. The problem is that I don't want my phone with me while I'm doing sports but I still want the hourly vibration. So reading about your problem makes me think that the kokoclock was installed on your watch and even when removed from the phone still worked fine.
Am I asuming right? Does anybody know if the watch will do what I want or do you know any other watch that will?
Thank you so much and best regards!
Anton

Running Apps Revisited

Guys,
Lot of talk regarding battery life/ standalone/ accuracy of gear S apps for running.
Used both Nike and S Health- to me both were standalone.
Few bullets
1) some stated that even with GPS on and locked that s health still uses pedometer for distance? (is this true?)
2) I'm still confused if I need gear network AND/OR mobile network on/off - does this affect battery life- if I leave OFF all networks...will my run sync once I turn mobile network or Bt with phone on?
3) any way to get splits read to you (cannot believe this is missing)
4) I don't think this device will get through a marathon unfortunately
Yikes! Just did the car test (run shealth with hand out car) and I can confirm that it doesn't use gps for anything other than map. Feel duped
Relies on pedometer I think
Sorry for my blast posts. It is possible that it only records speeds in running range? I shook hands and didn't increase speed. Also noticed a bike option. Perhaps wrong about duped. Lol
Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
The Nike+ app is tracking the distance correctly with GPS though. If you have everything turned on (GPS, GSM, Bluetooth), then you would get probably about 4-5h of battery time. My goal is to use it on the next marathon and be able to listen on music for the last 60min of the race but i guess I need to run on 3:30 or something to make this possible
BUT, unfortunally the Nike+ app are missing the most important thing and that's the avg pace for the total run. It just show current pace and I don't really like that since it's changs so often so it's hard to see what speed you are runnig at.
So, yeah, I really hope for an update on either of these running apps ASAP!
HTC, thanks.! What a shame re s health app. How do you think it does distance for biking though if uses pedometer for distance?
The Nike app is close to being good..... I can't see the red on black, while your running you can't read scrolling info and of course the avg pace of run is the gold
Also in Nike app you have to turn on GPS manually, not from the app, if you want to track distance accurately. If you don't it uses accelerometer. With GPS on in general battery life is not good. My longest run was 30K in 2:45 had 18% battery left. Also there is one more strange thing about S health - calorie count maxes out at 1000
OK , so I did another test today - used shealth on bike mode. Stuck arm out car window with GPS on. Kept arm still. It tracked distance completely accurately. This tells me that the s health must indeed use GPS accurately. I think the jog portion only measures speeds in running or walking rates as it did not pass my car test.
The Nike app is a bummer as you can't verify GPS lock before it starts. Also the reasons mentioned prior.
The s health app is easier to read but doesn't show you 1 mile splits on the phone app. This is unacceptable.
Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
Yeah, i have been logging miles with the Nike ap too. Its not perfect, but it works for me.
I have 79 miles all logged on my Gear S nike ap this year.
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Not to mention Nike app wastes battery with hr but doesn't record it.
The S Health app records continuous HR during your run. I'm not sure how the Nike+ app works to record HR data. Is it continuously tracking/recording HR data? Or does it do it intermittently when you activate the display and wait for the information to scroll (on the bottom of the screen) to HR?
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Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
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In the Nike+ app there's a small round indicator in the upper righthand corner that turns green as soon as there is a GPS lock. Always on mode is great, but it increases battery drain, so I just do the wrist flick.
Jerome, I think he is referring to indicator if Nike gps locked in before you hit start run. No runner wants the first 0.1 mile not to be recorded.
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Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
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Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
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Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
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Hello,
I guess I have to answer both Yes and No on that question
I've tried to reinstall, run without data, without simcard, yeah, tons of different test and it's always way off (map is accurate but the distance it shows is totally off). Another poster in this topic also had the same issue but then he told me to test and choose 'cycle' as training mode instead of running, and, when I did that, then S-Health tracks the distance accurate. So, with other words the application have support for tracking distance in that training mode but of some reason it seem to choose to track the distance by counting steps if I choose running/walking as training mode. So, i'm not sure, maybe your device of some reason have this working on all traning modes. I hope so, and, that someone can explain for me hoooooooooooooooooooow to change this
My gear s tracks distance very accurately when I run gps on. However with GPS off using pedometer it overestimated my distance by approx 0.1 per mile. So gps must work. I did discover as mentioned above, that at high speeds need cycle on.
Not sure if this has anything to do with anything, but my Gear S is the US ATT variety.
In my case, I am fairly certain that no maps are used for measuring distance. Maybe I lucked out.
And when I said my distance gets tracked earlier, I meant the tracks you see at the very bottom of the log in S Health, that correctly display where I took turns, looped back, etc. Without data on, there is no actual map behind them, with data on, there usually is (I had a few flukes before.) The pedometer would not know about turns taken, though.
BTW, I had issues getting a GPS lock for a while until I realized that my phone is messed up. Once I started using the Gear S in stand-alone mode, all was good.

Connection issue

I just got my watch day before yesterday, but I have had to factory reset it 4 times due to this horrible bug. After a few hours, I would stop receiving notifications, and the weather and phone battery meters would show old or no data at all. I can still sort of change watch faces, but would the watch would just show a loading message. Google works along with a few other apps too. Anyone else dealing with this? Is there a fix or should I get a replacement?
Edit: There is apparently another thread already with this as the talking point here, therefore making this thread redundant. I would be pleased if this could be locked. Thanks.

Amazfit Stratos GPS not usable

Hi All.
I recently got an Amazfit Stratos and I am having a horrible time trying to gps track my outdoor cycle.
I have tried twice, and both times, the GPS just either:
*Intermittently records data
or
*stops recording gps data altogether.
Basic questions?
Urban areas and Woods... same issue
Urban areas are residential.. no high tall building
Weather was good on both occasions
Yes I am waiting for GPS lock
Heart rate and time measurement continue flawlessly (shows data for the entire ride). It's just GPS tracking that is totally weird.
P.S. It's not "drifting" or inaccurate.. it seems to only switch on the gps sporadically... recording "every now and then"...
No errors or issues reported during the activity.
Latest Firmware (Although last nights a new firmware popped up, haven't tried the activity with last night's firmware.)
Both previous activities was on latest firmware at the time. (Yesterday and the day before)
And the REAL issue for me really, is that my wife's Pace records perfectly on the exact same routes where my Stratos just can't get anything usable going...
I have logged "feedback" request with logs using the app, but have not had any response other than, thanks.. we may use your feedback in the future...
From my own conclusions, the gps works.. because when it tracks... the location where it tracks is accurate.. it just doesn't track constantly. See my attached screenshot of my last ride. (Where my wife and her Amazfit pace tracked perfectly)
Any Ideas?
Cant add the image due to post count... How do I add it to this post?
Have you tried factory reset of the watch? Procedure is to unpair it from the app, it will reset itself, start fresh clean and ask for a pairing.
After pairing it will load last 7 days of your work, while all other old data will remain in the app, on your Mi account cloud. What you will have to add separately are only the 3rd party watchfaces, if you have installed them before.
Strongly suggest you try this first, it takes 5 minutes of your time, and you will lose no data.
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Thanks Nidza. I will surely try this. I have not yet as the watch is brand new. Upon receiving it It upgraded firmware 3 times from out of the box, and then I started using it.
I will give it a try, surely cant hurt.
Well what do you know. That factory reset seems to have done the trick!
Thanks!
Some points worth noting:
from the factory settings, a few watch settings did not pull through from the sync back to the app after factory reset.
Time format: My previous time format was 24h (Doubt that makes a difference)
Auto Sync: After factory reset, auto sync is off (I had it "on" before). Can't say if this actually causes any bugs to pop up? Maybe the watch tried to sync which interfered with gps functions? I used it yesterday with auto sync off and it worked well. I will investigate if auto sync on causes the GPS issue again.
Thanks again.
Hi guys, is it normal, that my Stratos's Gps show me the speed to much delayed. I checked it with my car, and the gps gets to the same speed as my phone's one, but maybe 10 seconds later. By skiing it can mean worse maximum speed measurement. It is like that with all the Amazefit Startos watches or I have a wrong one? Thanks for the answers!
It's not the same sampling frequency for a car as it is for a walking man. Watch gps do not need to detect non-human speeds, so there is a lower sampling. (Slower).
Same issue again FW version 4.2.8.0:
stops recording gps data altogether after a few minutes.
I've reset and unpaired the clock twice but the issue remains.
Any advice?

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