So, I want to buy a piece of find x from a local seller, he sent me the pictures below, and the least I can say is that the datasheet is a surprise! What do you think ?
I add that it is a particular seller, and he claims to have obtained the sample in France via a parent to him, it can help understand?
* another detail, which is not on the photos, with the CPU info application downloaded on the play store, in the hardware part I get an SDM630! and in the storage pane I have 4GB of memory used and 8GB of total memory, contrary to what the shortcuts "about the phone" indicates and contrary to what I receive with the application CPU Z info, whose results are On the photos
finally, on one of the photos there is a crack on the back of the phone, what will be the best price at which I can buy it?
thank you.
pour:elle said:
So, I want to buy a piece of find x from a local seller, he sent me the pictures below, and the least I can say is that the datasheet is a surprise! What do you think ?
I add that it is a particular seller, and he claims to have obtained the sample in France via a parent to him, it can help understand?
* another detail, which is not on the photos, with the CPU info application downloaded on the play store, in the hardware part I get an SDM630! and in the storage pane I have 4GB of memory used and 8GB of total memory, contrary to what the shortcuts "about the phone" indicates and contrary to what I receive with the application CPU Z info, whose results are On the photos
finally, on one of the photos there is a crack on the back of the phone, what will be the best price at which I can buy it?
thank you.
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D/L the app AIDA 64 to get an even better idea of what the phone actually has inside.
It may lack some components that would make the phone less desirable to own.
Myself, I wouldn't spend any money on it at all. However, if you like to collect items/one-offs such as this,start out with an offer of 1/4 of retail & go from there....
Sent from my OPPO PAFM00 using XDA Labs
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D/L the app AIDA 64 to get an even better idea of what the phone actually has inside.
It may lack some components that would make the phone less desirable to own.
Myself, I wouldn't spend any money on it at all. However, if you like to collect items/one-offs such as this,start out with an offer of 1/4 of retail & go from there....
Sent from my OPPO PAFM00 using XDA Labs
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I thank you for the quick answer ! according to you would it be a software or hardware limitation, and for the price, if you were in my place, what would be the maximum price you would pay for this piece?
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I thank you for the quick answer ! according to you would it be a software or hardware limitation, and for the price, if you were in my place, what would be the maximum price you would pay for this piece?
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I couldn't guess a price until after I was assured the phone has the same functionality as the one available to the general public.
If it's a store demo, more than likely the functionality is crippled.
Even with full functionality, I wouldn't offer any more than 25% of whatever retailers are selling it for in your area.....
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KOLIOSIS said:
I couldn't guess a price until after I was assured the phone has the same functionality as the one available to the general public.
If it's a store demo, more than likely the functionality is crippled.
Even with full functionality, I wouldn't offer any more than 25% of whatever retailers are selling it for in your area.....
Sent from my OPPO PAFM00 using XDA Labs
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in my country it has not yet been launched, can you tell me how much it is currently in store? the only thing that makes me hesitate is the lack of slot memory card, because until proven otherwise, the phone has only 8 can be 16 GB of memory, according to the photos, meanwhile to have it in hand and to try the application you have suggested to me (AIDA 64)
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in my country it has not yet been launched, can you tell me how much it is currently in store? the only thing that makes me hesitate is the lack of slot memory card, because until proven otherwise, the phone has only 8 can be 16 GB of memory, according to the photos, meanwhile to have it in hand and to try the application you have suggested to me (AIDA 64)
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The phone is a fake,only 2G RAM (typically displayed in GB,not with a single letter),that shoulda been a red flag right there,run,don't walk,from this scam................
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The phone is a fake,only 2G RAM (typically displayed in GB,not with a single letter),that shoulda been a red flag right there,run,don't walk,from this scam................
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yet aesthetically it is identical to the model sold, see the gallery? even the label on the box is authentic!
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yet aesthetically it is identical to the model sold, see the gallery? even the label on the box is authentic!
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If you're feeling froggy,jump,don't let me stop ya........
If ya got more money to burn,by all means,I know of a Nigerian Prince who needs a co-signer for funds in the Bank Of Antartica.................................
Enjoy your whatever that is,it certainly ain't an Oppo Find X in any regard & have a nice life...... Peace. :good:
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If you're feeling froggy,jump,don't let me stop ya........
If ya got more money to burn,by all means,I know of a Nigerian Prince who needs a co-signer for funds in the Bank Of Antartica.................................
Enjoy your whatever that is,it certainly ain't an Oppo Find X in any regard & have a nice life...... Peace. :good:
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I think it's the lite version, which has been used as development support, because if you noticed in the photos "about the phone", the version of the rom is dated February 5, 2018
before you leave, let me ask you if it is possible to send me in private the captures similar to those of photos from your phone, about phone, cpu z info, and other photos that define the differences
thank you very much and have a good day
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I think it's the lite version, which has been used as development support, because if you noticed in the photos "about the phone", the version of the rom is dated February 5, 2018
before you leave, let me ask you if it is possible to send me in private the captures similar to those of photos from your phone, about phone, cpu z info, and other photos that define the differences
thank you very much and have a good day
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All of that information is available on-line/videos/articles/pictures/OPPO'S WEBSITE.
Again,you seem sold on the phone,by all means,it's your money.....
pour:elle said:
So, I want to buy a piece of find x from a local seller, he sent me the pictures below, and the least I can say is that the datasheet is a surprise! What do you think ?
I add that it is a particular seller, and he claims to have obtained the sample in France via a parent to him, it can help understand?
* another detail, which is not on the photos, with the CPU info application downloaded on the play store, in the hardware part I get an SDM630! and in the storage pane I have 4GB of memory used and 8GB of total memory, contrary to what the shortcuts "about the phone" indicates and contrary to what I receive with the application CPU Z info, whose results are On the photos
finally, on one of the photos there is a crack on the back of the phone, what will be the best price at which I can buy it?
thank you.
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other reviews please ?
I'll add this & I'm done:
At minimum, you're dealing with someone who sells counterfeit/knockoff phones.
But, if you're convinced this is a prototype , it's likely been stolen,no way in Hell Oppo would approve..... discussion of buying such a phone in the forums is certainly frowned upon by the Admin/Staff here @ XDA......
Sent from my OPPO PAFM00 using XDA Labs
Accept the phone only if the seller will give it to you for nothing along with further compensating you in the form of hard cash; for wasting your time. Seriously, purchase only if you feel you must prove a sucker is born every minute.
What's wrong with this guy
Use logical reasoning and common sense my friend
hello guys, do not get upset, it's not my fault if I was lucky to find a piece of the flagship for almost nothing, the seller gave me the monster yesterday against a payment equivalent to $ 45, so I had the time to explore it and the results will surprise you even more than the price that it cost me I leave you with the pictures !
since this is the fifteenth answer of the thread, I pay tribute to VC15
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I've just seen that the Tablet S 16gb model has been reduced to £349.99 at PCWorld. That didn't take long! I might hold fire until after Christmas and see if it drops to £299.99
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/sony-s-tablet-pc-16gb-11318187-pdt.html
And the 32GB model is down from £479.99 to £429.00.
These are pretty significant price drops considering the tablet has only been out for a couple of months. Sales not too good?... Or is there a newer, faster, updated version on the horizon already? Did somebody say quad-core?...
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/sony-s-tablet-pc-32gb-11318172-pdt.html
Poor sales.
Only 500 Tablet S' have sold in the UK since September. There was an article about it but can't seem to find it now.
500, in the whole country?!
I'm not sure I believe that, but if it's true then that's shocking. Very poor.
that's impossible
anyways there is no point discussing this..it seems SONY missed the trick to ADVERTISE properly SONY S, see the status of SAMSUNG TAB!!
Samsung Tab become iconic android tab, SONY needs to learn from Samsung..
Anyways, sales are just number, IMO Sony S is better than Galaxy Tab!!
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Poor sales.
Only 500 Tablet S' have sold in the UK since September. There was an article about it but can't seem to find it now.
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Find that hard to believe, I mean wasnt some shop in UK offering a free LCD Tv with purchase of S Tablet on release? That alone would have broken 500 sales.
http://onlygizmos.com/sony-uk-managed-to-sell-only-500-android-tablets-in-over-a-month/2011/11/
that is the link btw there is no source just an anonymous one
Yup that is the link!
Global sales numbers are also below expectations according to reports.
Yes Sony has a great product but they bungled it. For the same price the iPad is a far better package and now the well-marketed kindle fire will destroy the other tablets. There's no way Sony could sell this beauty unless they integrated their content in a cheap and/or elegant way. And that ain't gonna happen.
Not sure why anyone should be shocked that the price has dropped to be honest-it happens all the time with technology and can be expected. When I bought a fancy laptop a few years back, intel released the i3, i5 and i7 a month later and the price of my laptop plummeted.
In the end though, I researched the available tablets like a madman and am completely happy with the sony tab... it does what I bought it for very well, is getting updates and will only get better in time!
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Find that hard to believe, I mean wasnt some shop in UK offering a free LCD Tv with purchase of S Tablet on release? That alone would have broken 500 sales.
http://onlygizmos.com/sony-uk-managed-to-sell-only-500-android-tablets-in-over-a-month/2011/11/
that is the link btw there is no source just an anonymous one
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Hard to believe indeed . First 100 buyers got free 32 inch led tvs. That would mean a fifth of all sales was from a single morning in a single shop. Maybe the 500 figure is not true. Just playstation association should have created more interest.
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Hi xda-Members,
I have a simple question:
Is the Cube U9GT-2 compatible with CyanogenMod?
I've got Gingerbread on my tablet, but I'm not really satisfied with this OS, maybe because it's developed for smartphones and not tablets.
Greets Meldamos
Hi.
Unfortunately I cannot help with your question. All I know is that some people are experimentinig with ICS (Android 4.0) on the U9GT-2, and there is a beta firmware for it if you would like to give it a try.
I am also thinking of buying one of these tablets. I found it for 230 Euros (=290 USD, =190 GBP). I was just about to press the "Add to cart" button when I saw your post.
What do you thing about this tablet? Do you have it long? Are you happy?
Also can you please PM me with the information of where you bought it from and if you were happy with the transaction (if it was an online buy)?
Thanks
Little review of U9GT-2
Well I have this tablet for 2-3 Weeks now and I don't regret it. I bought this tablet over an online-shop called cect-shop, because the support is in german and it has a warranty of 1 year. And there it costs 200€ with 25€ express shipment (there in 3 days from china to germany ^^) and 25€ toll. All in all I paid around 250€, much cheaper than here in germany where it starts at 350€ up to 700€ and not almost on a level of the capacity this tablet has. By the way if you ask cect-shop, they'll send you a stylus pen with your tablet for free.
The tablet uses Android 2.3 with Honeycomb style, not bad but could be better. The OS seems not to be build for battery saving, because the power runs of after 2-3 days in standby.
I asked the manufacturer about ICS and got the answer that they're working on it, but still need time to finish the compatibility with U9GT-2. They'll publish it on their homepage I think.
On the look it get often mistaken with an Apple iPad but it's not exactly like one. The capacitive display works fine, it discerns up to 10 fingers but you are not using 10 finger actually ^^
The sound is pretty good I think, even if I don't really know how the standard quality of tablets are. The big trouble is like I said the OS. But it's a thing you can change and does not affect the quality of this tablet.
If anyone has precise questions feel free to ask. I'm not good at writing a review.
Thanks for the valuable info.
Few questions more if you are kind enough:
1. Can you confirm the manufacturer's site? I have found one web address in China and never managed to connect
2. Can you confirm the thickness of it? Is it realy less than 10mm? Does it actually feel like an i-pad when you are carrying it around?
3. The material on the back side is it realy aluminium?
4. I have noticed that on different sites they give slightly different specs from cect.Ie pandawill gives a CPU of 1Ghz, thickness of 7mm and battery capacity 8000mAh, though cect gives 1.2Ghz, 9.7mm and 7600MAh. This is a problem with the Chinese sites / products / clones I guess... Nevertheless, since you are in Germany, you must have heard or seen an Easypix Easypad, have you? I am between the cube and the Easypad 970 (at easypix.eu). They look very similar. Do you have any personal feedback on that ?
5. Finally, does the screen look and feel like being IPS or not?
Sorry if I bother you too much, but it's the first time I buy a gadget withut actually testing or seeing one, so I am a bit concerned. Thanks
christis said:
Thanks for the valuable info.
Few questions more if you are kind enough:
1. Can you confirm the manufacturer's site? I have found one web address in China and never managed to connect
2. Can you confirm the thickness of it? Is it realy less than 10mm? Does it actually feel like an i-pad when you are carrying it around?
3. The material on the back side is it realy aluminium?
4. I have noticed that on different sites they give slightly different specs from cect.Ie pandawill gives a CPU of 1Ghz, thickness of 7mm and battery capacity 8000mAh, though cect gives 1.2Ghz, 9.7mm and 7600MAh. This is a problem with the Chinese sites / products / clones I guess... Nevertheless, since you are in Germany, you must have heard or seen an Easypix Easypad, have you? I am between the cube and the Easypad 970 (at easypix.eu). They look very similar. Do you have any personal feedback on that ?
5. Finally, does the screen look and feel like being IPS or not?
Sorry if I bother you too much, but it's the first time I buy a gadget withut actually testing or seeing one, so I am a bit concerned. Thanks
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Okay let's start:
1. Yes the manufacturer is available. There are also 2 supporter for questions available via skype. They're on workdays online so you can ask them directly. But there english seems not to be very good so better you keep your questions simple
2. I measured it now, I don't warrant than my results are exactly but they're 243mm x 190mm x 10,5mm (length x width x height). I have never had an iPad (too expensive for a tablet) but it feel very comfortable if I carry it around and it's not very heavy. I don't have a balance here but I think it's around 500-700 gram. Well it doesn't feel heavy for me that's all I can say actually.
3. YES it is aluminium and what a luck it is, because on the 3. day it got pushed against a aluminium pole and has only a really small dent left. A plastic hull would have cracked I think.
4. Don't look at the GHZ, many sellers push or fake them, maybe caused by stupidness or advertising. The U9GT-2 has a Rockchip 2918 CPU. Look for the specs on google. The battery is an advertising medium. I doesn't has 8000 mhA or even 7600 mhA. I has 2 x 4000 mhA batteries but they just sum them what they shouldn't do. Like I said the OS is not optimized for tablets and it really takes too much power in stand by. When playing you don't recognize the power loss. I played 3 hours a game called "deadly dungeon" (a dungeon crawler) and the battery has got from 63% to 49%. Well I've not saw the easypad, but they're exactly the same. They've got the same capacities and even the same OS. Throw a dice from 1-3 easypad and from 4-6 U9GT-2, that would be my solution ^^... Well I don't know if easypix is working on a ICS for easypad, just know that cube is working on it.
5. Well I don't know what you understand of a "feeling" for IPS. It looks like a monitor how you see it everywhere today. Don't know if you still have a cathode ray tube (I have one), but there is a difference. Of course, the games are sucking because they're not build for 9,7" displays . Some games are smoother with the resizing, others are bad. But the quality of the display is very good. Of course, not standard on notebooks over 15,6" (which I prefer) but for 9,7" it's high resolution.
Hope my answer could help you and other people who struggle on buying a china-tablet
PS: I've got many friends who look suspect at the tablet, like it could break every second, and I'm just smiling and laughing about their prejudices.
Fantastic answers.
Thank you very much for your effort.
I will follow your advice with the dice after the holidays
Happy Christmas
christis said:
Fantastic answers.
Thank you very much for your effort.
I will follow your advice with the dice after the holidays
Happy Christmas
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STOP!!! xD... Hope you did not buy it.
Forgot to mention that the EasyPad 970 can only use 8GB Flash HDD. U9GT-2 use 16GB! You get the double storage for the same price.
Sorry for my late answer, did not recognize the difference in the first place.
Sh*t. I bought one a few days ago
I generally know what NAND flash is, but not sure about its' importance. Mine still says 5.9 Gb free, after fully loaded with apps (I know they've got nothing to do with the NAND, but I can't seem to find a way how to run out of space in NAND). In any case, it is better to have double the capacity with the same cost, no matter what.
By the way, that NAND is some soldered microchip, or it can be a micro SD card on the motherboard so that it can "easily" be upgraded in the future if the need arises?
Nevertheless, I am happy with the tablet. Already rooted and experimenting. A couple of snags though, but I will find my way around them hopefully.
By the way, is there a way to hard - reset the tablet by hardware (since there is not a pin-hole or something)? Any combination of buttons pressed during power on?
The internal flash memory is installed in form of chips. Two in the Cube, as can be seen at tabletrepublic.com/forum/android-tablet-reviews/disassembling-cube-u9gt2-414.html, presumably one in the easypad. Apparently the 8GB of the easypad are partitioned in 0,5GB for apps and the rest for data while the 16GB in the Cube are partioned in 1GB for apps and the rest for data. I have read that by installing the cube firmware on the easypad 970, one can get 1 GB for apps, too. Personally, I think 8GB internally is plenty because media files (movies etc.) usually are stored on external SDHC cards anyway for fast swapping.
My 2 cents...
I recently bought one while I was in Beijing on holiday and was really amazed with the battery life with Android 2.3, considering I was streaming movies non-stop for 14 hours straight (in comparison with and iPad 2). The multi-touch keyboard sometimes has a lag although most the UI seems to be relatively smooth.
The camera located at the back also took decent pictures during day and night.
Overall this is a neat unit under $350.00 AUD considering most other units requiring a stylus or long fingernails to operate. I will be looking at rooting the device in a few weeks after I do a bit more research.
Let me know if you have modded your unit and your thoughts.
Thanks
Cube U9GT2 USB host controller issues
Hello everyone,
I'm hoping to solve a problem here, I just purchased a Cube U9GT2 Tablet 9.7
running: Android ICS 4.0.3 with a Kernel Version:3.0.8+.
With a build number: rk29sdk-eng4.03 IML74K eng-yangyun.20120108.124417 test-keys.
It came with an OTG/USB Cable and has both a USB and a USB/OTG port.
Let me just state this, I have tested all cables, ports and jump drives and have reformatted them to fat32, they were Fat32 also.
The problem I'm having is ICS can't see any jump drives I hook up to it. I installed a program from the Market called, USB Host Ctrlr. It ran a info check after install, and here is what it said:USB Host Controller Version Number:0.42 S3C USB Host Driver NOT Found! Root Hub Present. USB Host Mode is active.
I'm no developer or even a decent novas, but with decent instructions I can execute. Any ideas how to fix this, The price was Killer, when one is buying from a Chinese Company, the support is pretty limiting when you only speak English.
That's why the great price, I'm not complaining, I just want to get this resolved if possible.
In regards to the Tablet, I really like it a lot! pretty fast, smooth interface, easy to navigate, decent keyboard, (but I'm use to a smartphone).
It plays movies very nice, screen is plenty bright, It can use a Micro-sd card up to 32 gigs. Have not had any crashes yet, had it about 2 weeks. They have raised the prices about $13.00 I had to try one at that price, plus shipping was Free! I ordered it late on a Sunday night in USA, got it in 3 days DHL shipping, Hard to beat. Anyhow if anyone can help here, it sure be very appreciated. I would even be willing to pay something if reasonable.
If anyone is interested i can provide brand new AUTHENTIC CUBE U9GT2 at the price of euro 240.00.
The price include express shipping to all around the world (4-5 business days).
I am sending from European country so residents of EU will not pay additional taxes or VAT !!!
Let me know.
pashiamas said:
If anyone is interested i can provide brand new AUTHENTIC CUBE U9GT2 at the price of euro 240.00.
The price include express shipping to all around the world (4-5 business days).
I am sending from European country so residents of EU will not pay additional taxes or VAT !!!
Let me know.
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Pls check your PM
I bought a Nextway Fast 9 X from spemall.com as shown here:
http://www.spemall.com/Nextway-F9X-...PS-Screen-2G-Ram-1-5GHz-4K-Video-Black_g.html
After fully charging the tablet I started using it and it froze. I then restarted it and its froze a total of 5 times. Its had errors with the launcher, when opening the apps tab all the images would look like the background but pixelated.
Here is a link to the pictures i took: http://s1232.beta.photobucket.com/user/xstingstreetx/library/Defective
Next, I was able to disable some things for the tablet to run properly without crashing. However, this thing score terrible on benchmarks and is VERY slow moving. The processor is actually 1.08Ghz not 1.5.
I was able to root it thanks to Bin4ry see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Video by Bin4ry see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7EpkrCq1gfM
I was able to overclock on the stock kernel and such to 1.152 stable.
I was hoping someone could help to develop ROMs, Kernels, etc to make this thing work better.
Any and all ideas or feedback is appreciated.
Things that I didnt notice when I bought it is: I dont believe there is bluetooth or GPS
Also the GPS and blutooth either does not exist or possibly the software in the tablet just doesn't work with it.
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Also the GPS and blutooth either does not exist or possibly the software in the tablet just doesn't work with it.
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so you bought a non-brand cheap chinese tablet and now you want someone to develop a ROM for it ?
edit: wait. that is not that cheap. why on earth would you buy a non-brand tablet with a budget at 200$?
krankdroid said:
so you bought a non-brand cheap chinese tablet and now you want someone to develop a ROM for it ?
edit: wait. that is not that cheap. why on earth would you buy a non-brand tablet with a budget at 200$?
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Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
xstingstreetx said:
Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
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if something sounds to good to be true. it probaly is..
sad to say the chances of someone making a ROM for non-brand products is pretty slim, since most ROM are created on the basis that a device is widely bought and used. Of non-brand phone and tablets there are such a variety that developing for them makes no sense.
Get your money back if you can, and get a branded device. For 200$ you can get a Nexus 7.
if you want the same size and format of the one you got, look around for what samsung, acer, asus, hell even what Point Of View have to offer..
Sorry, but you won't like it -
The main disadvantage of buying a no-brand device is although it may work better the known brands, in case of a fault (software or hardware), you're on your own.... Not many users have flashed/fixed/used this device. So if you brick it, get a bootloop or find a bug, not many can help you.
Not speaking about the variety of ROMs...
I've been there.... I've bought a no-brand phone and after a year it's main PCB failed. I couldn't find a replacement part and had to throw the device away.
Anyway.....
Use the device, enjoy and don't brick it
Sent from my digital submersible hovercraft.
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Well no other tablet has competitive specs that I found. However I didnt know this tablet wasn't a 1.5 Ghz quad core as listed on the sellers site.
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If the moderators will give me permission, I can give you a link to where there are 4 custom ROMs for this tablet. I have installed the BETA4 and it better utilizes the Retina Display (unless you have bad eyes, and there is one geared for that one as the defective one you are using does). I honestly don't know if your problem can be helped with software, but it might... I can also give you a link to the newest stock ROM and a Windows app to install it. I would rather get permission first to post 2 direct links... one is to Arctablet (and you can do a Google or DuckDuckGo search and find it by the way) and the other one is to a tablet distributor who was good enough to create download links and instructions on how to use the hokey Chinese installer. The question is though, is your problem hardware or a botched ROM?
It does not have Bluetooth or GPS. My Archos outdoes it in that way, but it is a true quad-core retina display and mine works very nicely... nicer now that I have the better use of the resolution available. Its wildly vivid. I honestly can find no real issues other than a few I had from not wiping the thing before I flashed it (oddly it suggested I not do so... which caused me grief w/Google Play eventually). It comes rooted, and if you have one of those that are like partly-rooted or whatever some call it, do a factory reset and it will come back fully rooted. The ROMs of course are all rooted. I have a cheap 10.2", which honestly if I had not had something else would have given me ulcers, but hey... I only paid $14 for it from Quibids (including bid prices), so I can't complain. This one cost me around $150 with a few extras, so a little grief I can handle. But so far... those are interesting words... so far, it is actually very impressive. My daughter has a boyfriend who is an Apple fanatic, and he's kind of fixated on it from certain similarities to what he is coveting these days.
I have it going at 1.2ghz (quad-core), although I have gotten it up to just under the 1.5ghz it claims (1440). It will do it, but I wouldn't bet on its stability. It comes at 1.0 preset from manufacturer, but is easily changed with the cpu app of your choice. I use Setcpu... works for me. It has 2gb ram... can't complain.
I read some arguments on the cameras, but I don't see it... I took some pics tonight of my daughter on her way to a costume party... they are the best thing I have this side of my Kodak. I'm sure it takes better video than the Kodak though. Anyway... its responsive, sharp, and does what I want. You have to buy a Bluetooth dongle for next to nothing to have Bluetooth though for some bizarre reason it shows its there. The one page that I mentioned gives advice along with pics on how to do some interesting mods to it. It is capable of more than they shipped it with. I am sorry that you are having troubles with yours... I don't know if you still have yours or not. I've only had this a few weeks. If you are interested, let me know... and if the moderators allow it, I will post links.
I hate that you have had such grief with yours. If I can help, I am willing.
Hi New on here. Just ordered a 32 gb 8 core (octa core?) version of the S4 online and it includes extra battery, 32 micro sim, leather case, apparently to be delivered in original packing. How do I check if its original? I see some online videos on back covers (samsung logo, missing Galaxy S4 on bottom) but that back cover is removable. Samsung apps? Or is it just a gamble to buy from unknown sources cause inner parts could be replaced off original phones?
What site did you get it from? You could always check reviews for the site itself to see if people have been burned before. What did you pay for it? If it seems like too good a deal to be true that could be a big red flag because it probably is too good to be true.
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What site did you get it from? You could always check reviews for the site itself to see if people have been burned before. What did you pay for it? If it seems like too good a deal to be true that could be a big red flag because it probably is too good to be true.
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Taobao (China's ebay) and the seller sold 400+ within the last month with great reviews. Paid totally $350 usd (2200 rmb) and thats a steal considering the price here is over twice that amount amd they all selling 16 gb 4 core S4's. well, still didnt pay cause its pay on delivery but I expect it anytime soon.
So essentially my deal is I have 7 days for a no hassle return. I'm shocked thats there's talk of fake S4 so soon into the release of this phone amd this just goes to show how efficient the copycats are.
I still havent seen the phone but I'm assuming its hard to tell the difference just from outside looks. Even the video on youtube ... The display in the fake looks just as amazing and the screen apps look the same 100% as the original. There's got to be a way that android would have some authentication to state that this is indeed an S4?
Maybe I'm being paranoid but what if internal components have been replaced (they fetch higher profit margins)....any diagnostic software you download amd run? Like a benchmark test....obviously a fake cant compete with benchmark scores.....
Bhel said:
Taobao (China's ebay) and the seller sold 400+ within the last month with great reviews. Paid totally $350 usd (2200 rmb) and thats a steal considering the price here is over twice that amount amd they all selling 16 gb 4 core S4's. well, still didnt pay cause its pay on delivery but I expect it anytime soon.
So essentially my deal is I have 7 days for a no hassle return. I'm shocked thats there's talk of fake S4 so soon into the release of this phone amd this just goes to show how efficient the copycats are.
I still havent seen the phone but I'm assuming its hard to tell the difference just from outside looks. Even the video on youtube ... The display in the fake looks just as amazing and the screen apps look the same 100% as the original. There's got to be a way that android would have some authentication to state that this is indeed an S4?
Maybe I'm being paranoid but what if internal components have been replaced (they fetch higher profit margins)....any diagnostic software you download amd run? Like a benchmark test....obviously a fake cant compete with benchmark scores.....
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Dude, yes dude, you paid half retail of the hottest phone on the market. You DEFINITELY bought a fake. There is no way in HADES that someone could sell a 32gb Octa-core S4 for $325 and make a profit. I would return it asap or better yet, just deny delivery (if that works where you are)
It's a Chinese replica. Type in galaxy 4 replica in youtube
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Just received it and its a FAKE! The Samsung logo in the back is 'rough' and there's no 'Galaxy S4' logo on the bottom of back cover. Shipped with two batteries and turning it on had no welcome screen and the apps had no samsung apps. Disappointed yet amazed at the build quality.
Well is it usable? I mean functional lol
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Its functional for sure
Yep! This fake phone is functional running 4.2.2 android. Apparently its should total space as exactly 16 gb. Shouldnt this be slightly lesser since the OS would need some space? All in all very wierd but functional. I've not played around much cause I want to return this and hopefully get me an original.
Are you sure they will let you return it?
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HI, I unknowingly bought a fake too, here's a lsit of things to check;
Plastic screen
Not Amoled
Not HD (Have compared the screen to my s2 using video)
Screen is the same size as the s3
Borders around the screen are thicker
The button at the front middle is lw- it should be exactly halfway between the screens edge and the bottom of the phone.
Benchmarks around half the score of the real s4- although this can be faked (the 3d results were good- but 3d games dont seem to load)
The earpice speaker isn't a good fit for the slot in the phone, and is squint
The word samsung on the back is proud of the case, and a different font
The s4 markings are not on the bottom of the case, and samsung isnt printed below the earpiece.
THe batteries are very slim, and dont fit the real s4
the box says octa core- but the phone is the i9500
The metallic border is a different colour from the original
The phone has 2gig internal memory-- the free sd card is to trick you into thinking it is a bigger capacity, I assume the original phone has 16gig internal plus expandable slot.
The OS seems laggy, and is buggy
The settings are incomplete for the s4, only basic settings included.
Also my understanding of it is that the phone cant be rooted or modded- it will already have a modded chinese bootloader which would be hard to change, and none of the usual s4 roms would work (forgive my noob use of technical terms).
I bought mine from MANCEBA1998 (Gloria Mfwenbundo, 102 DULVERTON aVE, NG86EA) on ebay, as a real phone, i was stupid/ whatever. I got in touch with ebay and started a claim, she responded, saying she thought the phone was real as far as she is concerned, then ignored my emails for 2 days- I checked her other listings- and found a second s4 for sale, I could tell from the picture it was fake- so I told ebay and had the listing removed. She responded within a few hours with offers of a refund if I pay to send the phone back... I told her to get stuffed, send me my money- if she sends me postage she will get this fake phone back or i'll report her to her local trading standards...
Will see what happens- the point is, ebay have a case system where you can deal with refunds for not as described goods, and they frown on fake stuff. If the phone was listed as real then you will get your money back, but do so ASAP
verdomde said:
HI, I unknowingly bought a fake too, here's a lsit of things to check;
Plastic screen
Not Amoled
Not HD (Have compared the screen to my s2 using video)
Screen is the same size as the s3
Borders around the screen are thicker
The button at the front middle is lw- it should be exactly halfway between the screens edge and the bottom of the phone.
Benchmarks around half the score of the real s4- although this can be faked (the 3d results were good- but 3d games dont seem to load)
The earpice speaker isn't a good fit for the slot in the phone, and is squint
The word samsung on the back is proud of the case, and a different font
The s4 markings are not on the bottom of the case, and samsung isnt printed below the earpiece.
THe batteries are very slim, and dont fit the real s4
the box says octa core- but the phone is the i9500
The metallic border is a different colour from the original
The phone has 2gig internal memory-- the free sd card is to trick you into thinking it is a bigger capacity, I assume the original phone has 16gig internal plus expandable slot.
The OS seems laggy, and is buggy
The settings are incomplete for the s4, only basic settings included.
Also my understanding of it is that the phone cant be rooted or modded- it will already have a modded chinese bootloader which would be hard to change, and none of the usual s4 roms would work (forgive my noob use of technical terms).
I bought mine from MANCEBA1998 (Gloria Mfwenbundo, 102 DULVERTON aVE, NG86EA) on ebay, as a real phone, i was stupid/ whatever. I got in touch with ebay and started a claim, she responded, saying she thought the phone was real as far as she is concerned, then ignored my emails for 2 days- I checked her other listings- and found a second s4 for sale, I could tell from the picture it was fake- so I told ebay and had the listing removed. She responded within a few hours with offers of a refund if I pay to send the phone back... I told her to get stuffed, send me my money- if she sends me postage she will get this fake phone back or i'll report her to her local trading standards...
Will see what happens- the point is, ebay have a case system where you can deal with refunds for not as described goods, and they frown on fake stuff. If the phone was listed as real then you will get your money back, but do so ASAP
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Ebay buyer protection should give you a return shipping label if you open a case.
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I know it's an old post, but I want to start a thread, so I thought I might as well post here as anywhere else.
It all went according to plan, ebay sent a label to return, so I got my refund, then sent the dodgy phone back. Case closed. Cheers
It's strange that I feel I don't have most of the discussed problems in this forum. But let me tell you my reasons, why I decided to return the Poco F1.
1. Buggy microphone: the hands free mode has huge problems. There seems to be an unfixed problem with the internal microphones which makes it impossible to have understandable conversations in hands free mode (Skype, WhatsApp). This problem also occurs in the internal voice recording app in interview mode. This probably will be fixed in future versions, but as by now (9.6.14.0, European version) it just doesn't work and I need that function almost every day.
2. The MicroSD slot doesn't help much if I can't allocate the card to the internal drive. I have an ultra fast U3 SanDisk extreme card with 128 GB, but I can't merge it with the internal drive. Some would say: who cares? Just use it as an external card, whats the point? But just think of losing your phone and someone else has access to all your data on the memory card. Allocating the MicroSD to the internal drive encrypts everything on the card. I do understand the arguments of the manufacturer (speed issues because of fricking slow crappy sd cards), but I don't understand, why they won't leave that function open to experienced users (e.g. within the developers menu).
3. Can't get rid of Google Apps. I don't need and want certain Google Apps, but I can't disable them. I am not even asking for uninstalling, I just want to disable them, but Xiaomi won't let me. It just feels that I don't have control over the phone.
4. The rounded corners are strange: when watching a video you have one side with rounded corners, the other one with, well, normal corners.
5. The task switcher is a step backwards. I was used to switch between apps very quickly using the vertical task switcher. The task switcher on the Poco F1 works horizontally. Seriously? Phones are becoming longer and longer, not wider. I need much more time to switch between apps because I simply don't have a good overview of the open apps.
6. No HD-Streaming on Netflix and Prime.
7. Bad frequency coverage. Check the specs and compare them to your former phone (I used phonearena). I was shocked when I saw that the Poco F1 has really bad coverage of the available frequencies. I travel to Hong Kong and Japan a couple times a year and use local SIM cards. But looking at the very few supported frequencies, I am afraid I won't have a good reception anymore.
Remark: I have had the Poco F1 for about a week and will return it to the shop. I had a Moto G5 Plus before and will switch back to it again. I am aware of that certain points might not be bugging for some people. I consider myself as an experienced user which some major requirements about functions of a smartphone. If a phone doesn't match most of these requirements, I consider it as crap. This has nothing to do with the manufacturer. Ah, and I don't like custom roms. I went through that stuff so many years and spend so many weekends on that. I am not willing to spend my leisure time anymore trying out new roms because something is always not working well.
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It's strange that I feel I don't have most of the discussed problems in this forum. But let me tell you my reasons, why I decided to return the Poco F1.
1. Buggy microphone: the hands free mode has huge problems. There seems to be an unfixed problem with the internal microphones which makes it impossible to have understandable conversations in hands free mode (Skype, WhatsApp). This problem also occurs in the internal voice recording app in interview mode. This probably will be fixed in future versions, but as by now (9.6.14.0, European version) it just doesn't work and I need that function almost every day.
2. The MicroSD slot doesn't help much if I can't allocate the card to the internal drive. I have an ultra fast U3 SanDisk extreme card with 128 GB, but I can't merge it with the internal drive. Some would say: who cares? Just use it as an external card, whats the point? But just think of losing your phone and someone else has access to all your data on the memory card. Allocating the MicroSD to the internal drive encrypts everything on the card. I do understand the arguments of the manufacturer (speed issues because of fricking slow crappy sd cards), but I don't understand, why they won't leave that function open to experienced users (e.g. within the developers menu).
3. Can't get rid of Google Apps. I don't need and want certain Google Apps, but I can't disable them. I am not even asking for uninstalling, I just want to disable them, but Xiaomi won't let me. It just feels that I don't have control over the phone.
4. The rounded corners are strange: when watching a video you have one side with rounded corners, the other one with, well, normal corners.
5. The task switcher is a step backwards. I was used to switch between apps very quickly using the vertical task switcher. The task switcher on the Poco F1 works horizontally. Seriously? Phones are becoming longer and longer, not wider. I need much more time to switch between apps because I simply don't have a good overview of the open apps.
6. No HD-Streaming on Netflix and Prime.
7. Bad frequency coverage. Check the specs and compare them to your former phone (I used phonearena). I was shocked when I saw that the Poco F1 has really bad coverage of the available frequencies. I travel to Hong Kong and Japan a couple times a year and use local SIM cards. But looking at the very few supported frequencies, I am afraid I won't have a good reception anymore.
Remark: I have had the Poco F1 for about a week and will return it to the shop. I had a Moto G5 Plus before and will switch back to it again. I am aware of that certain points might not be bugging for some people. I consider myself as an experienced user which some major requirements about functions of a smartphone. If a phone doesn't match most of these requirements, I consider it as crap. This has nothing to do with the manufacturer. Ah, and I don't like custom roms. I went through that stuff so many years and spend so many weekends on that. I am not willing to spend my leisure time anymore trying out new roms because something is always not working well.
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Most of the stuff you mentioned are related to MIUI and can be fixed by flashing a stock rom ( custom) which will be available soon. For notch, you've to deal with it as most of the upcoming phones including Moto One includes Notch. Give credit to Apple for this stupid notch. I'm used to it as my main phone is iPhone X so I've been using notch phone from a long time now. Yes, rounded corners on one side sucks.
No hd streaming is still in que to be fixed by Xiaomi. Though I've no idea why people complain about it, I can't really tell difference between the quality what it streams on Amazon Prime and Netflix without HD. May be I'm used to watching videos on iPad so can't tell the difference on small screen.
Coverage is excellent here with this ph. I used to get less than 1mbps with Redmi Note 5 Pro and now I easily get 10-12mbps on 4G.
I don't use microsd card, remind me this is 2018 na? People still use microsd when OEMs offer 128/256gb phs. I've purchased Poco 128GB may be that's why I never thought this ph supports microsd.
No buggy microphone here. May be it's issue with your phone.
Since you're not into custom roms, get One Plus 6 or upcoming 6T. I bet you'll still find reasons to complain about that phone too. That's just human nature. Everybody wants top end hardware by spending less money, nobody realise when you pay less for such hardware you're going to get compromise somewhere be it notch, hd streaming, touch issues, camera etc. No phone is perfect not even the iPhone X.
Good luck with the return.
Ermm which brand phone allowed micro SD to be main drive ?
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Ermm which brand phone allowed micro SD to be main drive ?
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No the main drive, but merged with the main drive. My Moto G5 Plus allows that. It is, as far as I understood, a normal function of Android (since 6.0?) but can be disabled by the manufacturer.
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No the main drive, but merged with the main drive. My Moto G5 Plus allows that. It is, as far as I understood, a normal function of Android (since 6.0?) but can be disabled by the manufacturer.
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I see, this option goes way back then android 6 ,where micro SD card can be the main ,didn't know it's a android feature to merge storage
Sorry but way to much crying about this phone everywhere.
What do u expect for 300 euro in this price range and with those spec u don't find a phone with widevine.
I come from Oneplus and now I know why are people always laughing about the Xiaomi community always complaining.
Maybe it is the price range.. I don't know.
It is not a offensive post to u personally, but everywhere I look there are complains.
Good luck with the return.
Thank you for your feedback. I understand, that people might think that complaining about a 300 USD phone is exaggerated, but on the other side there's also kind of a hype about that phone, so I thought I just let people know what my expectation were and how I feel about the phone.
I intentionally didn't mention the positive things about the phone (and there, fur sure, are good ones). I believe it isn't a bad phone at all. It just doesn't suit my very specific expecations well.
My focus was set on some key features I thought some other people would also want to know about, so this hopefully help them to decide whether to buy the phone or not.
@FTPFreezer, surprised to read a few points in your post - perhaps most surprised when I came to read that you are shifting back to a G5+. I moved from a G5, a bit slower than your phone, granted, but when I came to shift some files from my G5 earlier today after a week with the F1 I was stunned by how sluggish it was. Really, there's no comparison.
Adoptable storage has been a pain in the ass rather than a boon - mine has not failed in the way many G5 users have experienced, but getting data off the card to switch phones is misery. The F1 camera is worlds better. There's no comparison in terms of build quality, the G5 feeling like a toy. Until today I never realised the G5 screen is as poor as it is. Battery life is obviously incomparable.
Miui is not to my taste, but Rootless pixel launcher makes it tolerableme features done nicely. I'll still probably move to a custom ROM, but likely not if it means losing the face unlock.
Face unlock - reminds me how shockingly poor the G5 fingerprint reader is; the Pocophone is bang on every time.
Good luck with the switch back, but I really don't appreciate your reasoning.
Easily disable from playstore head to help and feedback then select delete or disable app and you can disable
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Thank you for your feedback. I understand, that people might think that complaining about a 300 USD phone is exaggerated, but on the other side there's also kind of a hype about that phone, so I thought I just let people know what my expectation were and how I feel about the phone.
I intentionally didn't mention the positive things about the phone (and there, fur sure, are good ones). I believe it isn't a bad phone at all. It just doesn't suit my very specific expecations well.
My focus was set on some key features I thought some other people would also want to know about, so this hopefully help them to decide whether to buy the phone or not.
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Should've just bought a more expensive phone if you have such specific needs. Most people are satisfied with what they got.
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Easily disable from playstore head to help and feedback then select delete or disable app and you can disable
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Have you tried this by yourself or do you just contribute something without knowledge? This is simply not possible on the Poco F1. You can just uninstall all updates, but you are not able to deactivate the app.
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Should've just bought a more expensive phone if you have such specific needs. Most people are satisfied with what they got.
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Why do you say this? Which of my points are related to a higher price? The only one I could think of is the frequency coverage, but other thread in this forum suggest, that Xiaomi might just block them by software.
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Have you tried this by yourself or do you just contribute something without knowledge? This is simply not possible on the Poco F1. You can just uninstall all updates, but you are not able to deactivate the app.
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I did it.. just follow step and disable them
teddyanuj said:
I did it.. just follow step and disable them
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Then it could be a region related issue. My region is set to HK (because otherwise face unlock isn't possible in Germany). It definately doesn't work like you said. But anyways, I gonna return the phone today, so it doesn't matter much anymore. I'll just keep the G5 Plus for some while.
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Then it could be a region related issue. My region is set to HK (because otherwise face unlock isn't possible in Germany). It definately doesn't work like you said. But anyways, I gonna return the phone today, so it doesn't matter much anymore. I'll just keep the G5 Plus for some while.
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Whether u take or let it go...it doesnt matter to anyone here . M trying to help u out just this ..
LOL with adb you can uninstall all you want
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Why do you say this? Which of my points are related to a higher price? The only one I could think of is the frequency coverage, but other thread in this forum suggest, that Xiaomi might just block them by software.
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A more expensive phone is more likely to match those major requirements of yours, that's all.
@FTPFreezer thank you for your review. I, for one, enjoyed your critique of the product. It's these kinds of review I like to search for before buying a product.
Only the Google Apps thing worries me, personally. I will still be getting the poco phone.
1. Buggy microphone
can't verify that, mine is good
2. The MicroSD slot doesn't help much if I can't allocate the card to the internal drive
why would you want to do that? if you have to format data even everything on SDcard is gone, UFS is anyway much faster
3. Can't get rid of Google Apps
yes, you can - just use a custom ROM
4. The rounded corners are strange
I have to admit the corners are big but I'm not playing games, so I can live with it
5. The task switcher is a step backwards
not an issues on custom ROM
6. No HD-Streaming on Netflix and Prime
for what? do you really see a difference at a 6.2" panel? regarding bandwith L3 is enough for me
7. Bad frequency coverage
can't verify that, works good here in austria
I can't help but laugh. This is a 300 hundred dollar phone. This is not the S9+ even though the Poco is faster.
I installed the SD before setting my F1. During setup of Miui 10, it asked me if I wanted to use it for app storage or just as portable storage.
If you were rooted, you could get rid of any app you want. Not sure why this is even an issue. All OEM's stop you from removing apps bundled like Google Duo, play movies etc.
There are hacked versions of Netflix out there that let you play ultra HD shows. The problem is on a 6" screen, not sure what the big deal is.
I get no 4g here in the US on T-Mobile but I've had no issues with sound quality whatsoever.
Sounds to me like a nice S9+ is what u want. Heck, it's only 600 dollars more
Let me say it again, this is an amazing phone for 300 bucks. People will always find negative things to say about any phone.