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I had a quick look but i couldnt find these ones on the site. As most of you know a spare battery (or 7) is a must with the TP2. But im a noob and im not sure what the difference is with these with the mAh ratings. Is there much difference between 13050mAh and 1500mAh batteries? which will be better?
Heres the 1500mAh battery
Here is the 1350mAh battery
Thanks
Personally, I wouldn't get a replacement battery from HK, and not over Ebay either - I've used one source for two-way radio kit over there for a while, and while the Li-Po and Li-Io batteries do work, they appear to have a limited life span in comparison with OEM equipment available over here.
I'd think about long-term savings, and get something from Clove (linkage here), who at least can be held accountable to the "fit for use" elements of the Sale Of Goods Act 1964 over here, unlike HK sources via ebay. Don't get me wrong - ebay's a great source of bargain kit, but for something as essential and spec-critical as a PDA/Phone battery, I'd go home-grown retail sources every time, purely for the legal protection.
In any case, I'm getting a PowerMonkey from Maplin today. Much more versatile for me
My spare batteries have always been HK cheapo's and never a problem with them before. If that one you showed me was half the price it is then id have got it.
1600 mAh battery from the uk?
Is this really genuine?
SMF_12 - I opted for the powerMonkey for a number of reasons.
It's small enough to lug around in a pocket or belt pouch.
It carries potentially two full TP2 charges from a single full charge
It's got a long shelf life on a single charge
It's got adaptors in the box for most of the portable devices you might already own that take a 4.5-5.5 vDC charge
If by chance your connecter isn't there, they suply additional ones at a very reasonable cost
It'll charge my TP2 and my other half's Razr (that's the motorola phone, not the ladyshave ) too
Oh, did I mention it's rechargeable off anything with a USB port, and can take a charge off any mains power socket on the globe (travel plugs come as standard).
I'm rather impressed with it
However, if all you want is the spare battery, then by all means, go for that instead
As to the "is this genuine"... he's in the UK, subject to the Sale of Goods Act and the Trade Descriptions Act. If he's telling fibs, he can be held accountable. Hope that helps
Have fun
UPDATE: Hold fire on the PowerMoneky, folks. There's a glitch. While the supplied USB charging cable works with the miniUSB adaptor tip to charge the TP2, the PowerMoneky itself does not - say again not - appear to be charging the TP2. Only found this out last night - I've been using the USB adaptor cable and tip up to now.
A trouble ticket email has been sent to them, asking for any information regarding this, and hopefully a fix as well.
You can imagine how damned annoyed - and embarrassed - I am at this point in time.
Update - very rapid response from PowerTraveller tech support - seems that they believe I need a "DOPOD" adaptor tip, and requested my snail mail address so that they could send me one - still doesn't explain how the miniUSB tip works when I'm using it in the car from the cigar lighter -> USB adaptor, but there y'go. Soon as the DOPOD tip arrives, I'll test it out, and update you all
Thanks for that, i took a look at it in maplins today but i think ill stick to a second battery. but im sure people will be happy to read your review on the product so keep us updated on this product
Will do
OK, DOPOD adaotor tip arrived today.
Result: FAIL.
The text of the follow-up note to PowerTraveller Customer Services, sent this evening, is reproduced below, less the name of the Customer Services agent there.
Thanks for the DOPOD adaptor tip, which arrived today.
Unfortunately, it does not appear to solve the problem.
I connected the tip to the PowerMonkey Classic lead, and then plugged it into the ExtUSB connector socket on the HTC Touch Pro 2. I then moved the switch on the PowerMonkey Classic to "on". Again, the green light on the PowerMonkey Classic started to flash, but there was no noticable difference from using the normal USB adaptor tip; i.e., there was no amber charging light illuminated on the Touch Pro 2, and no charging icon was to be seen on the screen. I have to assume that there was therefore no charging current making it to my HTC Touch Pro 2.
The entire point of purchasing the PowerMonkey Classic was the be able to recharge my HTC Touch Pro 2 when I was away from other power sources, such as my home, my car, and other USB sources such as notebook PCs, when out and about conducting, for example, GPS-related activities, which are heavy on battery consumption. The advertising that I saw led me to believe that the PowerMonkey Classic *would* be the solution to my problem. Sadly, however, despite your attempt with the DOPOD adaptor tip, this does NOT appear to be the case, and I am VERY disappointed, as you can imagine.
It is remotely possible that your engineers have missed that on the Touch Pro 2, the connector on the bottom of the unit is NOT a standard USB connector, but HTCs proprietary ExtUSB format (which combines power, audio, and data feeds in one socket/plug format)?
Could you possibly check with the engineers, and ascertain if they have actually physically *tested* the DOPOD with the HTC Touch Pro 2, and, if so, how they managed to get the darn thing to accept charging current from the PowerMonkey Classic?
As it stands now, failing a working solution from your selves, I am the poud owner of the thirty quid high-tech paperweight, that is of zero use to me. I am due to see my partner (who lives 70-odd miles from me) soon, and we will test at that time whether the device works in charging a Motorola Razr.
If it does, then, short a working solution for my Touch Pro 2 being forthcoming from your company, I will give my partner the device. At least then, someone will profit from using the device. I however, will be back to square one, searching for an on-foot recharging solution for my phone.
Finaly, I would remind you that all the above fails to explain why I can get a ten quid self-reeling cigar lighter adaptor unit in my car, using what appears to be a standard USB connector, to successfully charge my Touch Pro 2. Naturally, I would be VERY interested in knowing why this succeeds, where the PowerMonkey Classic fails.
Sincerely,
Roger Stenning
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As you can imagine, I am far from amused at this entire sorry bloody saga.
As always, I'll keep you all updated, should there be anything to report.
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Almost forgot - confirmation USB source test result:
Almost forgot. I checked to see if the DOPOD tip worked with a purely USB-derived power source, so plugged the supplied self-reeling PowerMonkey adaptor cable into the tip, then into my computers' USB port, and connected the tip to the Touch pro 2. Surprise surprise, the amber light on the phone illuminated, and charging current was flowing into the Touch Pro 2.
The problem is therefore sqarely defined as being with the PowerMonkey itself, and NOT the adaptor tip.
Casting back to my original note, I have to assume that the PowerMonkey is NOT delivering a powerful enough charge, at 4.5 VDC, where USB specs clearly require 5 VDC. There is therefore a deficit of 0.5 VDC from the PowerMonkey Classic.
I will still check to see if this is successful in charging a Motorola RAZR or not, and will report back to you at that time.
Sincerely,
Roger Stenning
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I've never had problems with HK batteries either, but hasn't this thread been done a few times already?
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1600 mAh battery from the uk?
Is this really genuine?
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Hope so, I've just ordered
Update time.
PowerTraveller, manufacture of the Power Monkey Classic v1, have sent me a returns form in the email, and have told me that once I've returned it, they'll send a replacement after testing.
Looks like the postage is down to me, though
Roger, if it's any consolation, I've had to do the merry dance that you appear to be doing right now. I bought a v1 just over six months ago and went through the exact process you have described. Just the other day, I received a replacement unit that I'm testing now. My problem was that when my phone was 'next to' empty, I'd plug in the v1 and it would charge to about 50% before itself becoming empty. I know the v1 was full because I had charged it for hours and the LED was green. "Two fulls charges"? Pfffft.
I also got the load of old cobblers from Powermonkey about the USB tips too. How I should use a DOPOD tip instead of a USB one. When I questioned 'why?' I received a half mumbled reply about the tips being internally wired differently. The one that they promised to mail me never arrived so I bought one from the website, being only like £3. Did it make a difference? No.
I don't know how this replacement's going to work out but I have my doubts. Before buying the v1, I bought two other Powertraveller products, the Powerchimp device that runs off two rechargeable AA batteries. I gave up on both of them within a week because even with two fully charged AAs, it seemed to charge my phone for about 30 minutes before being in an empty state and when I looked at my phone (TytnII) it had maybe gained 10% charge. OK if you want to make say one emergency phonecall but useless if you need the equivelent of a fully charged spare battery (or two!!!).
I'm going to monitor how it works out and see if this replacement works and provides at least a full charge and a half. If it doesn't, well, although it'll work on some level, it just doesn't do what it's advertised to do which is very naughty (especially when you see them laud their product all over the internet/Twitter etc as the most amzing thing since bread that has been sliced
One day guys, once day I hope the world will see a truly reliable and consistant portable power supply. Maybe in a thousand years, even a reliable solar powered products?
hiya - thanks for the heads up. It's be damned nice to see a curcuit diagram of the thing, along with a specific list of components. They try that mumbling stuff with me, they may bite themselves somewhere embarrassing - I'm also a licenced Radio ham in the UK (G1LIW), and as some of you might know, we have to pass tests in the technical aspects of the radio hobby - which includes electronics
I'm damned if I know what the preventative difference between a DOPOD and a miniUSB tip, either, by the way, given that the ExtUSB used by HTC only adds maybe 7 contacts to the format while avoiding existing MiniUSB pin locations...
MiniUSB layout...
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
ExtUSB layout...
http://pinouts.ru/PDA/htc_extusb_headset_pinout.shtml
The two are not, of course, interchangeable - while MiniUSB plugs will fit into ExtUSB sockets, the reverse is not true.
Anyhow, we will see.
Thanks again for the heads up
Quick test result update.
I let my TytnII (battery, 1350mAh?) drop to 30% battery and then plugged in my fully charged P M Classic. It charged back to 100% and the charge LED was still flashing green. I then plugged in my half empty old Motorola V3, it charged it for approx 30 minutes before flashing red and eventually stopping. 2200mAh!?!? capacity? I bet I didn't consume any more than about a 1000mAh and it was empty.
OK, it's new so this might go up a bit but it really doesn't bode well. OK, so maybe I'll get one full charge out of it but it's advertised as 2200 my phone is 1350, surely it should be up towards about two charges?
Bottom line is, it works but nowhere near as well as it's advertised to do.
OK, received the replacement PM (it's a version 2, not a version 1) in the mail today. They included another DOPOD adaptor tip, too. Guess they figured I'm a clumsy schmuk who may have lost the one they sent me the other week (nope, still got it)
Anyhow, Turning it on results in rapid green LED blinking, meaning they fully charged it before sending it to me. Which was nice of them
However, and interestingly, plugging in a charger to it does NOT result in any LED illuminating. Odd. have to follow that up later.
I'll let you all know how it behaves in charging my phone once I use it "in anger".
Be interested to see what you make of it's charge capacity...
Cured the inability to charge the PowerMonkey problem - it was a rather embarrassing user error - the plug wasn't correctly seated in the mains socket
Gonna let the phone drain a bit while I'm on holiday this week, and use the PM to charge it. It's a PMv2, not a PMv1, that they sent as a replacement, remember, so we will see if the thing behaves any better than your v1
Later
After a month or so of tests, I can say my version 2 is 'better' but it still doesn't delivery the one and a half charges it's supposed to. On average, I'd say it fully charges my TYTN2 once and is then empty.
I really can't be bothered to stress about it any more because I guess, one full charge is better than nothing but I think I'm justified in being a little irked that it doesn't do what it's advertised to do?
Conclusion: It works, it'll charge your phone to full from empty and is an alternative to buying a spare battery for your phone. It'll also charge everyone elses phone with the right adapter!
[HDMI CABLE REVIEW]
Full review is on the way, I just wanted to let you know that I do have the prototype in hand and it DOES work, video and sound
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I finally got received my ‘official’ Malata ZPAD Dock today and wanted to post for all to see. PLEASE BARE WITH ME on my review, the pics aren’t that great and I didn’t run a bunch of tests but I have most of the basic info that everyone is going to want to know. Feel free to ask questions and I will try to run additional tests for you.
DOCK - HDMI Out, USB, LAN and power (no additional ac adapter supplied) – The quality is nice. The bottom of the dock has a rubber insert as to not scratch a table if moved around and as you may see from the pic there is a rubber insert where the tablet itself sits to protect it. The tab just drops on; pretty simple. With the ac adapter plugged in the tab does show that it’s charging. It sits at a rather upright angle (not straight up and down) so I would think that it’s something that you would NOT want to try type on without a keyboard on a regular basis, but it does seem pretty steady on there.
USB – As you can tell from the pic it did recognize an 8 GB USB thumb drive that I had plugged into it. I did not get to test a USB keyboard and mouse as the ones that I have available didn’t work natively with the tablet so I didn’t even try with the dock (yet).
LAN – Also in a pic, once plugged in the connection lights on the back started lighting up immediately. I turned off my WiFi and enabled the Ethernet in setting and it quickly got an IP and as you can see there is no longer an ‘x’ on the tablet LAN icon. I DID test the internet and all worked just fine.
HDMI – plugged the HDMI in and hooked it up to a 32” and it popped right up. NOW the quality was grainy and I’m sure there may be a way to fix that but I just wanted to get you pics to show whether it worked or not. In the pics you can see my screen duplicated and I started a movie (which I will say the quality was much better in the movie that it replicating my home screens)
All in all… I am extremely pleased and can’t wait to put it to use.
With that being said, I need to thank those involved for their work in spearheading efforts to get these in for us. I plan on trying to get a couple over as quickly as possible to ‘donate’ to a couple of people that won’t take donations for some exceptional work and personal attention (more on that to come later... )
I will update as soon as I can with any other ‘information’ in regards to the availability of these on US soil.
Let me know what you think!
EDIT: Just added a couple of pics of the innards (sent them to the dropbox for larger resolution). Ok, HDMI guys, what next?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10015338/2010-12-08 09.13.05.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10015338/2010-12-08 09.17.19.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10015338/2010-12-08 09.18.54.jpg
Great work Steve. Is there any possible way for you to diagram the pin out of the connector (at least to the hdmi pins). We are working on an HDMI cable with a plug breakout board and have no idea how to guess which of the 30 pins go to which wires on the hdmi cable.
Thanks again
The pinouts for all would be good to know. Wouldn't mind making a cable with all connections!
Anyways, great review!
Can't wait to get ours from the group buy in!
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Great work Steve. Is there any possible way for you to diagram the pin out of the connector (at least to the hdmi pins). We are working on an HDMI cable with a plug breakout board and have no idea how to guess which of the 30 pins go to which wires on the hdmi cable.
Thanks again
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that's gonna be outta my realm of knowledge right this second but if you want to try to tell me what to do, I'm not scared?
This Android journey that started with my phone a few months ago and is lingering to the tablet has made me pretty fearless. I'm now learning more about adb and ddms (just wanna take pics). It worked once and never since, something about java and crap like that.
Lemmie know.
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I finally got received my ‘official’ Malata ZPAD Dock today and wanted to post for all to see. PLEASE BARE WITH ME on my review, the pics aren’t that great and I didn’t run a bunch of tests but I have most of the basic info that everyone is going to want to know. Feel free to ask questions and I will try to run additional tests for you.
DOCK - HDMI Out, USB, LAN and power (no additional ac adapter supplied) – The quality is nice. The bottom of the dock has a rubber insert as to not scratch a table if moved around and as you may see from the pic there is a rubber insert where the tablet itself sits to protect it. The tab just drops on; pretty simple. With the ac adapter plugged in the tab does show that it’s charging. It sits at a rather upright angle (not straight up and down) so I would think that it’s something that you would want to try type on without a keyboard on a regular basis, but it does seem pretty steady on there.
USB – As you can tell from the pic it did recognize an 8 GB USB thumb drive that I had plugged into it. I did not get to test a USB keyboard and mouse as the ones that I have available didn’t work natively with the tablet so I didn’t even try with the dock (yet).
LAN – Also in a pic, once plugged in the connection lights on the back started lighting up immediately. I turned off my WiFi and enabled the Ethernet in setting and it quickly got an IP and as you can see there is no longer an ‘x’ on the tablet LAN icon. I DID test the internet and all worked just fine.
HDMI – plugged the HDMI in and hooked it up to a 32” and it popped right up. NOW the quality was grainy and I’m sure there may be a way to fix that but I just wanted to get you pics to show whether it worked or not. In the pics you can see my screen duplicated and I started a movie (which I will say the quality was much better in the movie that it replicating my home screens)
All in all… I am extremely pleased and can’t wait to put it to use.
With that being said, I need to thank those involved for their work in spearheading efforts to get these in for us. I plan on trying to get a couple over as quickly as possible to ‘donate’ to a couple of people that won’t take donations for some exceptional work and personal attention (more on that to come later... )
I will update as soon as I can with any other ‘information’ in regards to the availability of these on US soil.
Let me know what you think!
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Thanks for the review, the cloning of the screen looks awesome.
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Thanks for the review, the cloning of the screen looks awesome.
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it should... it's your work
This might be a stupid question but what resolution does it output to your tv? I am going to buy one of these as soon as I can. Very cool.
HDMI connect to TV..
Is it easy to open it up? Trace the wiring?
Don't think there will be much on the onside.
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HDMI connect to TV..
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I hope that isn't a response to me. HDMI is not a resolution. That is the connector. It could output 480p for all I know.
Wow thanks. I can't wai to get mine. Dumb question but do u have to have the zpad rom to use this dock?
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I hope that isn't a response to me. HDMI is not a resolution. That is the connector. It could output 480p for all I know.
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High Speed HDMI Cable support 1080P. So, if you have a DOCK and HDMI caple..
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High Speed HDMI Cable support 1080P. So, if you have a DOCK and HDMI caple..
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It doesn't mean the device supports it up to that resolution. He didn't even mention it. Do you have one that you have tested? It could be limited to a certain resolution. Is that so hard to understand? I know what HDMI is. I know what resolutions are. You keep repeating things I already know. I want to know what resolutions are available when you are outputting to your tv. Does it actually ask you what resolution? Some tvs and monitors do not go to 1080p. So please I would like for the original poster or someone that has one to please respond. You are not helping me at all here.
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It doesn't mean the device supports it up to that resolution. He didn't even mention it. Do you have one that you have tested? It could be limited to a certain resolution. Is that so hard to understand? I know what HDMI is. I know what resolutions are. You keep repeating things I already know. I want to know what resolutions are available when you are outputting to your tv. Does it actually ask you what resolution? Some tvs and monitors do not go to 1080p. So please I would like for the original poster or someone that has one to please respond. You are not helping me at all here.
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OK. Easy..easy.
I have no intention to offend.
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OK. Easy..easy.
I have no intention to offend.
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I am not offended by what you said. I am just curious and you weren't answering my question is all. There are many devices that use HDMI without using it to it's full potential. No hard feelings here.
I've got a crazy schedule this week but will do what I can to get all of your questions answered for you. I need to check to see if my TV supports 1080p (I'll bet it doesn't, cheapy) however I wouldn't really know how to test , in fact, that's what the tablet is pushing. If someone knows a way to test that feel free to let me know.
Also, I'm not gonna lie and they these aren't cheap. Unfortunately because of my OCD, ADD, and impulsive nature; this thing wasn't cheap for me to get here that quickly however I will take it to work today and see what I can do to rip it apart to find out the cabling for those that have asked. If (when) I get it torn apart I'll be asking you asking you guys exactly what the hell I'm supposed to be looking for (pinouts ect).
I will also find the time to flash a couple other ROMS to let you know that all works with each ones. Unfortunately that wont be happening until tonight tho. I can flash and have the ROMS ready for testing but won't be back to the TV until tonight.
I'm sorry that I couldn't do a more thorough review for everyone beforehand but as I said before, I really wanted to get something up quickly as I know that we were all wanting to know if it even worked at all for now.
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I've got a crazy schedule this week but will do what I can to get all of your questions answered for you. I need to check to see if my TV supports 1080p (I'll bet it doesn't, cheapy) however I wouldn't really know how to test , in fact, that's what the tablet is pushing. If someone knows a way to test that feel free to let me know.
Also, I'm not gonna lie and they these aren't cheap. Unfortunately because of my OCD, ADD, and impulsive nature; this thing wasn't cheap for me to get here that quickly however I will take it to work today and see what I can do to rip it apart to find out the cabling for those that have asked. If (when) I get it torn apart I'll be asking you asking you guys exactly what the hell I'm supposed to be looking for (pinouts ect).
I will also find the time to flash a couple other ROMS to let you know that all works with each ones. Unfortunately that wont be happening until tonight tho. I can flash and have the ROMS ready for testing but won't be back to the TV until tonight.
I'm sorry that I couldn't do a more thorough review for everyone beforehand but as I said before, I really wanted to get something up quickly as I know that we were all wanting to know if it even worked at all for now.
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No appology needed.....big thanks just for your great feedback!
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No appology needed.....big thanks just for your great feedback!
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just dropped some links with pics in the OP with the innards... Let me know what else you need ripped apart for cabling ...
Steve for a pin out diagram all you need is a simple continuity tester with thin probes. Hold one probe to a pin on the main port and begin touching pins on the connections in the back HDMI, USB, etc. When the tester beeps or lights up you have a match. Make note of it on your diagram. Shouldn't take too long and its totally safe for your dock.
I'm software not hardware, but best bet at a guess would be for to diagram the connector and all the outputs, then take a volt meter and iduno what level of voltage (something tiny obviously, somebody who knows hardware better on here could say) and just try to pass a small signal through each pin of the dock connector and use the volt meter to map where it comes out.
Again, I'm software not hardware so I may be way off here. I wonder if those fellas who sell the dock breakout would be willing for you to ship them the dock and they run signals through it and ship it back to you after they've mapped it for us. Would be a boon for them to know the mapping because then they could start selling us a dock to hdmi connector.. And a hobbyist shop like that, they probably know how to safely pass a signal through the thing to map the dock.
I just bought a monitor with MHL. This came with an MHL lead Micro usb > HDMI plug so eager to try it I got nothing on the Note 3.
Testing this with my HTC Sensation the lead alone worked perfectly so I did a bit of research and figured that all I should need is a pin converter 5 - 11 pin and I should be fine.
I This
When that duly arrived, it still didn't work. What I noticed when using this though was :
1) The Samsung pops up a message "HDMI connected" when the monitor is on.
2) The monitor scans and doesn't tell me there is no signal - It sits there with a black screen when the note 3 is connected.
3) The Samsung loses it's sound (on the device) but nothing comes through on the monitor (not used the monitor speakers yet so I might no have this set up)
4) The Samsung shows that it is being charged.
Further research seems to come up with conflicting results. Some people say you MUST have one of those adaptors with external power, but others swear their adaptors work fine without it because the Note 3 is MHL 2.0 and only needs it for battery charging.
So I am a bit confused and hope some folks here can shed some light on this matter. My HTC sensation works perfectly with just the lead, I find it hard to believe the |Note 3 won't even when the pin outs are correct and the monitor is clearly supplying power to the device.
Any help appreciated, I don't want to buy an older mhl 1.0 adaptor with power or an expensive 2.0 adaptor if it's not necessary and I do want to hear from anyone that has an adaptor that doesn't require power.
I've never owned one Samsung phone, even when using an official (powered) MHL adapter, that worked well enough to even be worth having the adapter.
I don't know if the Note 3 requires it or not, but I wouldn't even bother with it tbh.
My Samsung MHL 2.0 cable does NOT require a power input with the Note 3 (I still use one anyway). AFAIK you still need a charging input if the cable is MHL 1.0, regardless of what spec the phone has.
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My Samsung MHL 2.0 cable does NOT require a power input with the Note 3 (I still use one anyway). AFAIK you still need a charging input if the cable is MHL 1.0, regardless of what spec the phone has.
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Thanks - I take it you are talking of the official one (which came out before the note 3)?
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Thanks - I take it you are talking of the official one (which came out before the note 3)?
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Thanks, it's curious then why my mhl lead with 5 - 11pin adaptor doesn't work directly unless there's some magic in the Samsung unit.
I seem to be clearing the fog on this issue a little but I'm still confused.
It appears that what Samsung provide is and MHL > HDMI adaptor. HDMI and MHL are different ... in some way.
However, when a monitor supports HML directly this shouldn't be necessary at all. As my monitor came with this feature and supplied an MHL cable albeit the 5 pin my take on this is that fitting a 5 > 11 pin converter should be all that I need. Some appear to have used passive MHL cables with success :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483054&page=3
But I'd still like any more expert opinions on whether I'm on the right track or not. If I am then I might assume the chinese adaptor I bought is defective in some way.
I don't know what happened but I bought this one and I am surprised! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item486423fdfe This was suggested in another thread from many users however it was noted that it requires power A/C to work! To my big surprise,the one that I got it works without plugging any power source and not only that but it managed to load my external usb other than hdmi
Those are my first results after 10 minutes of testing it! Didn't have any long term session with it in order to check if it is stable or errorfree!
Because I know some users may doubt it, here is a picture showing what I said !https://db.tt/Gsum0lyU
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I don't know what happened but I bought this one and I am surprised! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item486423fdfe This was suggested in another thread from many users however it was noted that it requires power A/C to work! To my big surprise,the one that I got it works without plugging any power source and not only that but it managed to load my external usb other than hdmi [/url]
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Thanks for the heads up. Can you tell me if you were plugging this into an MHL compliant monitor or was it just one that had HDMI?
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Thanks for the heads up. Can you tell me if you were plugging this into an MHL compliant monitor or was it just one that had HDMI?
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I think No as the TV is quite old and from my usage I didn't see any signs of MHL. But I will test it again in my other TV which is much newer to see if it still works without external power! I Will post my findings on this thread in the near future
It seems that it works pretty fine also in my other (newer) TV without any power source!
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It seems that it works pretty fine also in my other (newer) TV without any power source!
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Thanks , they are cheap enough so I'll probably order the same one and give it a try.
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Thanks , they are cheap enough so I'll probably order the same one and give it a try.
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I hope you have the same luck as with me
I am having a nightmare trying to find any USB 3.0/ 3.1 type c to type c (at least 5gbps) cables in the UK longer than 3ft!! I have found a couple of 3 ft ones but I will be using it to charge my S8, there is no way a 3ft cable is going to reach behind my desk and down to the socket. I would also like to be able to use it as more than purely a charging cable, hence wanting 5gbps or the newer 10gbps speeds. I am amazed there isn't a single cable longer than 3ft for it other than a few old usb 2.0 ones which are useless these days (and I suspect won't even charge it at full speed).
Couple of 3ft ones, one by Belkin and one by Anker, but nothing longer (in the UK anyway). There must be a demand for them, connecting a charger will need longer than 3ft for anyone that has it on a desk, and connecting it to the back of a pc of docking station will as well!
https://www.anker.com/products/A8169091
They have a few others on there as well that are 6 ft.
rkennison said:
https://www.anker.com/products/A8169091
They have a few others on there as well that are 6 ft.
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"Buy at Amazon US" and "USB-C to USB-A"
ewokuk said:
"Buy at Amazon US" and "USB-C to USB-A"
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PowerLine USB-C to USB-C 2.0 (6ft / 1.8m)
https://www.anker.com/products/A8182011
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PowerLine USB-C to USB-C 2.0 (6ft / 1.8m)
https://www.anker.com/products/A8182011
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Again, I am *NOT* in the US...and I *DONT* want USB 2.0!!
I don't see why not use 2 cables. Personally I use 2 cables simply because always having to pull the cable and do what I got to do then put it back from my desk is real bothersome. I don't know how your setup is however.
If you're looking for a cable to use with the OEM charger, the unboxing videos I've seen show the included charger with a USB A connection, so you would need a C-to-A cable. (You might already be aware, just making sure.)
Tidbits said:
I don't see why not use 2 cables. Personally I use 2 cables simply because always having to pull the cable and do what I got to do then put it back from my desk is real bothersome. I don't know how your setup is however.
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Yeah I am using 2 cables, this is the second one. I already have a 6ft USB C to A cable so that's covered, I just want a c to c cable 6ft and at least 5gbps usb 3.0 so it is somewhat future proof (vs all the usb 2.0 versions I keep finding that are too old and slow for my needs).
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If you're looking for a cable to use with the OEM charger, the unboxing videos I've seen show the included charger with a USB A connection, so you would need a C-to-A cable. (You might already be aware, just making sure.)
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Yep I have C to A already. No Idea why C to C at longer than 3ft is so hard to find, I'll just have to wait I guess.
C to C isn't all that popular currently. There are very few things out right now that require C to C.
Anker PowerLine+ USB-C to USB 3.0 cable (6ft), High Durability, for USB Type-C Devices Including the new MacBook, ChromeBook Pixel, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nokia N1 Tablet, OnePlus 2 and More https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M5GMZ6X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_X5w6ybQK9Q3MC
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Are you completely ****ing brainless? How many times do I have to say IN THE UK for you to get it into your thick skull? And you haven't found *IT* because the IT that you posted was COMPLETELY THE WRONG ****ING CABLE. Jesus christ.
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I guess you are not that bright either since you couldn't find a simple cable for yourself and resorted to ask for help.
Next time you need help on a public forum maybe it's a good idea to pretend you are not a complete douchebag.
And i completely agree with other poster, you should Google yourself. We are not your servants.
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I guess you are not that bright either since you couldn't find a simple cable for yourself and resorted to ask for help.
Next time you need help on a public forum maybe it's a good idea to pretend you are not a complete douchebag.
And i completely agree with other poster, you should Google yourself. We are not your servants.
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Both of you are acting like children. The likely reason why its so hard to find is because the manufacturers likely consider the main use-case to be phone to phone data transfer or Phone to PC charge and data. In this scenario most people would want the devices relatively close together. It just might be too early for a cable like it to be widely available. I managed to find 1 (I think) on the amazon UK site. It comes in a pack of 5 cables with varied lengths. It appears they have the cable but I don't see it in a stand-alone pack just yet.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Cabl...id=1492431447&sr=8-37&keywords=usb+3.0+c+to+c
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Both of you are acting like children. The likely reason why its so hard to find is because the manufacturers likely consider the main use-case to be phone to phone data transfer or Phone to PC charge and data. In this scenario most people would want the devices relatively close together. It just might be too early for a cable like it to be widely available. I managed to find 1 (I think) on the amazon UK site. It comes in a pack of 5 cables with varied lengths. It appears they have the cable but I don't see it in a stand-alone pack just yet.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Cabl...id=1492431447&sr=8-37&keywords=usb+3.0+c+to+c
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I'm not sure why you are saying I acted like a child! I was merely saying that nobody is perfect and it's not okay to insult people. He didn't swear at me, he did it to someone else. I intervened as you just did.
Anyway, I guess you just misunderstood the context.
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I'm not sure why you are saying I acted like a child! I was merely saying that nobody is perfect and it's not okay to insult people. He didn't swear at me, he did it to someone else. I intervened as you just did.
Anyway, I guess you just misunderstood the context.
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I did misunderstand. I would rather we all focus on trying to help OP and not flame each other. Figured calling it childish was the mildest way to put things.
here you go:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasi...rds=AmazonBasics+USB+Type-C+to+USB+Type-C+3.1
And cheaper:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-MacB...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=CZ5W2214G82TAFF3CJQ9
dumraden said:
And cheaper:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-MacB...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=CZ5W2214G82TAFF3CJQ9
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I looked for this the other day and only found the 5 pack. Good job.
ram8704 said:
I looked for this the other day and only found the 5 pack. Good job.
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I basically clicked on the 5-pack you posted and it was one of the recommended items below. :laugh:
dumraden said:
I basically clicked on the 5-pack you posted and it was one of the recommended items below. :laugh:
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It's USB 2.0 :crying:
As a new member I can't post direct links yet but just go to Amazon's UK website and search "usb c 3.0 long" and you will tons of options. Not sure why you had such difficulty finding it.
I was looking for the type of cable that allow to charge and use cable headphones( C type) . There are solutions for Iphone 7 but I have not come across any for Android. What's the situation in regards HTC U11?
I did the same search for about an hour one night, I didn't find anything either. I expected many options out of China. I was a bit surprised. Maybe the plug cannot put out and accept power at the same time on Android?
I seen a thread last night that someone bought something like https://www.amazon.com/Goliton-Fema...qid=1496202880&sr=8-44&keywords=usb+c+adapter and https://www.amazon.com/multiport-US...qid=1496203314&sr=8-14&keywords=USB-c+PD+Port
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I did the same search for about an hour one night, I didn't find anything either. I expected many options out of China. I was a bit surprised. Maybe the plug cannot put out and accept power at the same time on Android?
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I found this where the blogger talks a out possible schematics for usb c that enables both charge and music listening at the same time. Article is written in 2016.
Because I saw such adapters for iphone 7 maybe apple worked it out how to do it on lighting cable. Anyway here is a link : http://pocketnow.com/2016/09/08/the-impending-horror-of-usb-type-c-audio-adapters
I read something about type C that claims that splitting the port for simultaneous use and charging may be technically challenging for some reason. I tried looking for that article, but couldn't find it again. Regardless, if I need to charge while listening to my earphones, I temporarily use Bluetooth and one of these adapters: (https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MJMV0GU/ref=psdcmw_1293687011_t1_B01NCSFAAO)
to continue using my normal earphones until my phone fully charges. I really like my normal earphones and don't want to use Bluetooth ones, so I use this adapter till the phone's charged.
@itiskonrad
Isn't that a rushed decision by android manufacturers to replace 3.5 jack without exploring give situation ?! I have already two decent pair of earbuds and will have the third bundled with handset.
Did you buy that Bluetooth adaptor and using by any chance? If so are you fully satisfied?
nebulaoperator said:
@itiskonrad
Isn't that a rushed decision by android manufacturers to replace 3.5 jack without exploring give situation ?! I have already two decent pair of earbuds and will have the third bundled with handset.
Did you buy that Bluetooth adaptor and using by any chance? If so are you fully satisfied?
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It is a rushed decision. What I'm curious about is if they used the anonymous usage data to make this decision. If so, it's possible that people who used both the headphone jack and charged their phone at the same time under-represented themselves by opting out of anonymous usage data.
Companies like Samsung and LG are "throw as many features into the phone as possible!" companies; making them more likely to be the last major manufacturers to get rid of the headphone jack.
3.5 jack on phones is dying off just like removable batteries. It's that simple.
You get a free included adaptor - so this is really not an issue as I see it.
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It is a rushed decision. What I'm curious about is if they used the anonymous usage data to make this decision. If so, it's possible that people who used both the headphone jack and charged their phone at the same time under-represented themselves by opting out of anonymous usage data.
Companies like Samsung and LG are "throw as many features into the phone as possible!" companies; making them more likely to be the last major manufacturers to get rid of the headphone jack.
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Could be they used wrong audience for that purpose. For instance apple by getting rid of 3.5 jack and patenting lighting port makes a lot of money. And that makes a sense because every company that wants to make lighting cable they pay apple. I don't know what is the situation with 3.5 jack and USB C type but that could also be related to Bluetooth earbuds/head[hone market. Just guessing.
I use my G5 connected to USB Type C for charging, while also using the 3.5mm headset jack connected to the car's AUX Audio input for playing Music, Navigation, Waze. I was hoping there would be an adapter somewhere (for phones like the U11) that would allow it to charge while also being able to connect to 3.5mm audio.
Hi got redirected here by @Lock and Load. Seems it is possible to do manual cable, but have to use data + - for charging (from what i read). That means 500mA charging only. I will try a cable when i get some time. Can a usb-c hub be used? Has anyone tried? Would save a lot of messing around.
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Hi got redirected here by @Lock and Load. Seems it is possible to do manual cable, but have to use data + - for charging (from what i read). That means 500mA charging only. I will try a cable when i get some time. Can a usb-c hub be used? Has anyone tried? Would save a lot of messing around.
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Investigated the same option you did. And mailed some sellers about it.
The Y+cables won't charge your phone, only the peripheral which you plugged in the other USB Port. And a power bank or. Charger in the other port.
As for this part for instance,
Wavlink USB 3.1 Type C 4 Ports Hub Adapter High Speed 5Gbps Aluminum Multiple USB-C HUB For Windows Mac OS Android 5.0 later
http://s.aliexpress.com/uAbyEzeA
(from AliExpress Android)
I got the answer it won't charge either.
What i did for now, i ordered a quick charge 3.0 powerbank. So when you are out. It charges quickly to listen further.
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....What i did for now, i ordered a quick charge 3.0 powerbank. So when you are out. It charges quickly to listen further....
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Would that charge as fast as the charger provided by HTC?
nebulaoperator said:
Would that charge as fast as the charger provided by HTC?
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Yes that should be, because it's (Qualcomm certified) Quickcharge 3.0
I have ordered the BW-P3
https://www.blitzwolf.com/Qualcomm-Power-Banks-c-29.html
*justintime* said:
Yes that should be, because it's (Qualcomm certified) Quickcharge 3.0
I have ordered the BW-P3
https://www.blitzwolf.com/Qualcomm-Power-Banks-c-29.html
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Nice! I am still keen to buy Bluetooth earbuds at some point but that power bank is a must buy. Do you have case?
nebulaoperator said:
Nice! I am still keen to buy Bluetooth earbuds at some point but that power bank is a must buy. Do you have case?
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What do you mean with case? Case for U11?
Hmzzz Bluetooth earbuds. If you appreciate good sound quality, don't do that. If you still want to... Choose a Senheisser or Bose... And they don't come really cheap.
But that's up to you.
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What do you mean with case? Case for U11?
Hmzzz Bluetooth earbuds. If you appreciate good sound quality, don't do that. If you still want to... Choose a Senheisser or Bose... And they don't come really cheap.
But that's up to you.
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Yes protective case.
BT earbuds I would most likely use for audio books and other content but the music. I do get your point though.
nebulaoperator said:
Yes protective case.
BT earbuds I would most likely use for audio books and other content but the music. I do get your point though.
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Owww hearbooks etc.. Bluetooth.. I would go for it. [emoji6]
Protective case.. Yes... As posted here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72478864
How about that one? Seems like a simple solution for the Moto Z and maybe for the HTC U11?
https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Co...26&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+c+audio+charge+adapter
@*justintime* I gotcha Look what tal_sarid found! @tal_sarid I am intrigued. I did asked him about cable .